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Which US Presidential candidate will you be voting for?


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Time

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While the rest of us went on about our business exchanging information, you're crying foul and butthurt
because subtlety in the interest of peace is beyond your comprehension.

You went on about your business because I was out and about doing real life shit for a few hours and didn't reply until I got home an hour ago and read your fucking old man dribble.

While I was gone you talked all kinds of shit about me and now you think I should be all fucking nicey nice? You started this shit by calling me out on my opinion. I didn't call you out. You named me talking about 'Time is adamant about debunking". I said horseshit, I was just answering the fucking question. Then your old ass went all, "Get off my lawn!" on me. LOL.
 

hellcatrydr

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Just going to write as much."They" have to legally (as in a judge) declare you a risk of danger to yourself or others.
It skips my mind where but that's already within the power of the Feds as part of Obama care or something like.
Yep. But since it's an ex-parte (pending a real) hearing, you have no right to respond... until the actual hearing.

Nothing to do w/ the feds or OCare that I know of... The Cali moonbat nation is the reason.

California Contagion , One Bad Symptom : Extreme Risk Protection Orders
Posted on July 20, 2017

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Tpat591

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This is from @Tpat591 first post about Dr Wood. Read the red part.



Ask @Tpat591 who he meant when he said "our steel worker".

So go fuck yourself. You either can't read, dementia has set in or you are a liar.

I gave my thoughts, as requested, about the ruble and the steel "turning to dust". I don't give a fuck if you got your panties in a twist about my answer. That's your problem, not mine. Nobody else got sand in their vagina about it but you.
I definitely said that. I was surprised at tone of your reply but I definitely wanted to your opinion. It is counter intuitive to a chemistry major to believe Steel can Dustify when subjected to high intensity DEW. Would think it would flame & melt or even appear to explode in sparks if intense enough. Your experience & viewpoint are always welcome.

I have to be skeptical of the theory until I see actual effects of operational testing of HE DEW on steel before I could actually buy into it. The metal targets in Ponce LAWS Test just appear to violently disintegrate without flaming or sparking (too quick to tell on footage could find - no high speed hi def) & that was very surprising to me. The drone & missile tests they performed appeared more natural & like I would expect a DEW to behave. Those targets were pretty light gauge gauge & Ponce LAWS Test was only 30KW. Pump up the KW enough & who knows?

Since the election I have realized many of my preconceived notions were naive and my views of the world & even the limitations & nature of the physical laws of science might be outdated by advanced technology. I am trying to catch up to what is really going on and have decided to open my mind to consider possibilities I would previously have thought absurd in that endeavor.

I further have heard of advanced Resonance Based DEW development that is an entirely different animal. Who knows what effects that could have?

I am discovering that Conspiracy Theories have much more merit that I ever could have thought possible and I am only on the surface of that iceberg.
 
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Tpat591

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Yep. But since it's an ex-parte (pending a real) hearing, you have no right to respond... until the actual hearing.

Nothing to do w/ the feds or OCare that I know of... The Cali moonbat nation is the reason.

California Contagion , One Bad Symptom : Extreme Risk Protection Orders
Posted on July 20, 2017

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Denial of due process to subvert 2nd amendment. Period. Unconstitutional.

Considering they effectively placed us under Martial law in 1871 & have ruled us under Admiralty Law ever since I don't believe they are particularly concerned about that though.
 

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I definitely said that. I was surprised at tone of your reply but I definitely wanted to your opinion. It is counter intuitive to a chemistry major to believe Steel can Dustify when subjected to high intensity DEW. Would think it would flame & melt or even appear to explode in sparks if intense enough. Your experience & viewpoint are always welcome.

I have to be skeptical of the theory until I see actual effects of operational testing of HE DEW on steel before I could actually buy into it. The metal targets in Ponce LAWS Test just appear to violently disintegrate without flaming or sparking (too quick to tell on footage could find - no high speed hi def) & that was very surprising to me. The drone & missile tests they performed appeared more natural & like I would expect a DEW to behave. Those targets were pretty light gauge gauge & Ponce LAWS Test was only 30KW. Pump up the KW enough & who knows?

Since the election I have realized many of my preconceived notions were naive and my views of the world & even the limitations & nature of the physical laws of science might be outdated by advanced technology. I am trying to catch up to what is really going on and have decided to open my mind to consider possibilities I would previously have thought absurd in that endeavor.

I further have heard of advanced resonance DEW development that is an entirely different animal. Who knows what effects that could have?

I don't know what to say about my tone. I write like I talk and maybe that doesn't translate the same in print. But my answers to serious people are almost always sincere. That said, I think most people know when my tone is intentionally bad. I'm brutal if my intent is bad, lol.

What I've read on DEW leaves me thinking the same thing you do. The laser types destroy with heat. I imagine the microwave types do too. I would expect to see sparks and such. Melting. That sort of thing. Not dust.
 

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I am discovering that Conspiracy Theories have much more merit that I ever could have thought possible and I am only on the surface of that iceberg.

There's nothing wrong with a good conspiracy theory. I've been reading them for years. Some are plausible some are not. The only problem I have with them, even the plausible ones, is I feel people put to much weight to some of them. Like they have more impact than they do. People get the impression that "They" can't be beat.

But my answer to conspiracy is the same as my answer to a fucked up corrupt government. If government is small, it's much easier to weed out conspirators.
 

Tpat591

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I don't know what to say about my tone. I write like I talk and maybe that doesn't translate the same in print. But my answers to serious people are almost always sincere. That said, I think most people know when my tone is intentionally bad. I'm brutal if my intent is bad, lol.

What I've read on DEW leaves me thinking the same thing you do. The laser types destroy with heat. I imagine the microwave types do too. I would expect to see sparks and such. Melting. That sort of thing. Not dust.
Didn't take it personally, was just surprised. Not concerned.

Sonic Resonance, Advanced Plasma, Magnetic Resonance, and something called Torroidal Vortex Plasma are other types of DEW also under development & that is what they have told us about. What they really have could literally be Star Trek level by now for all I know. I am convinced our own technology has been enhanced by more advanced extra terrestrial technology either reverse engineered or directly supplied.

These Intentional Masonic Symbolism Temple like connections prevalent at the JFK Assassination & the 9-11 attack are not coincidence in random Terror Attacks on our country. These are very powerful and very disturbing and utterly evil people entrenched in our government. If they had access to technology weapons that could be employed in furthering their goals, they absolutely would use them. I am convinced of that.
 

HazyShades

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Yep. But since it's an ex-parte (pending a real) hearing, you have no right to respond... until the actual hearing.

Nothing to do w/ the feds or OCare that I know of... The Cali moonbat nation is the reason.

California Contagion , One Bad Symptom : Extreme Risk Protection Orders
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I know this particular bill has nothing to do with the feds. But there is a federal regulation which states the gub'min can confiscate your gun
under certain circumstances related to mental health. I know I've posted about it here. I'll try to find a link to the fed reg for you.
 

HazyShades

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You went on about your business because I was out and about doing real life shit for a few hours and didn't reply until I got home an hour ago and read your fucking old man dribble.

While I was gone you talked all kinds of shit about me and now you think I should be all fucking nicey nice? You started this shit by calling me out on my opinion. I didn't call you out. You named me talking about 'Time is adamant about debunking". I said horseshit, I was just answering the fucking question. Then your old ass went all, "Get off my lawn!" on me. LOL.
Damn, it was over 2 AM and you're still rubbing your ass.
"Old man dribble"
Yea, why not add some more evidence to your incivility, asshole?

Add vanity to your arrogance and stupidity. I didn't talk about you while you were off being a wanker nor have any interest in doing so.
I did however reply to your diatribe.

No, I don't think that you should be "all fucking nicey", I doubt you're capable.
But I do think THAT YOU SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL.

YEA ASSHOLE, ADAMANT ABOUT DEBUNKING anything that doesn't fit your narrative.
I didn't call you out on anything, au contraire.. I know better than to argue with arrogant imbeciles with small egos.
As a matter of fact, I said as much..I don't want to argue".

I explained why I had decided to consider Dr Wood's evidence. I replied that your half ass attempt at debunking or dismissing Dr Wood's evidence prompted me to actually consider her research and change my opinion.
I have the right to consider that if an imbecile disregards an issue as unimportant then perhaps it's worth checking out.

Your small ego considers my disagreement with your conclusions an affront and makes you feel the need to insult and ridicule.
Go fuck yourself and stop projecting your inadequacy.
You have established a pattern of this bullshit with other people with whom you disagree.
You and I have done this before and your MO hasn't changed much.

Run your fingers on your keyboard....
but I do have better things to do than argue with fools trying to act bigger than they are.
Get over it.
 

HazyShades

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Yep. But since it's an ex-parte (pending a real) hearing, you have no right to respond... until the actual hearing.

Nothing to do w/ the feds or OCare that I know of... The Cali moonbat nation is the reason.

California Contagion , One Bad Symptom : Extreme Risk Protection Orders
Posted on July 20, 2017

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Here, it didn't deal with "confiscation" but it was feared that it would.
It did prohibit gun ownership by mental patients and required that mental health professionals report
patients to the gub'min.
Here's a couple of articles about it.. I'll keep looking for the actual law.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ople-deemed-financially-incompetent/97032888/

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-set-overturn-guns-mental-health-regulation-557237
 

HazyShades

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Here, it didn't deal with "confiscation" but it was feared that it would.
It did prohibit gun ownership by mental patients and required that mental health professionals report
patients to the gub'min.
Here's a couple of articles about it.. I'll keep looking for the actual law.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ople-deemed-financially-incompetent/97032888/

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-set-overturn-guns-mental-health-regulation-557237

This is interesting
https://www.psychiatry.org/File Library/Psychiatrists/Meetings/IPS-TheMentalHealthServicesConference/2016/Presenter-Slides/Gun-Control-Laws-and-the-Mentally-Ill-Solis.pdf

Where this gets really interesting is that if you recall the APA had listed religious zealotry as a disease. Subversive political ideology was included also.
So all the gub'min has to do is declare you have mental illness 'cause you're a whatever and they can prohibit you from owning a gun
 

Tpat591

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Congress can send a powerful message by passing the Israel Anti-Boycott Act
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...send-a-powerful-message-by-passing-the-israel

Congress wants to make it a criminal felony to criticize or Boycott Israel in the United States. This is insane. It is contrary to 1st Amendment. Congress cannot actually be considering a law to prevent Americans from organizing to protest a foreign country when we can't stop them from protesting our own president.

This is like that asinine AIPAC Pledge every member of our Congress had to sign back in 2013. Why are our legislators swearing allegiance to any country other than our own much less criminalizing Americans ability to publicly express opinions against Israel?

Any member of congress who signed that pledge should be forced to renounce. Any member who votes for this does not deserve to serve in that capacity any longer.
 
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See they are pressing forward with #Unrig. Thought it might fall apart after Robert David Steele started talking about Child Slave Labor Colonies on Mars with Alex Jones. I am not a Cynthia McKinney fan, but I don't have to be. If they can Rally enough people together to put serious pressure on Congress to sign the Pledge and put election reform at the center stage it would be a huge step forward! We gotta get rid of the Diebold machines.
 
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HazyShades

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See they are pressing forward with #Unrig. Thought it might fall apart after Robert David Steele started talking about Child Slave Labor Colonies on Mars with Alex Jones.

Their pitch sounds great. Too good like 'Give Peace a Chance'
but I can't bring myself to believe the sincerity of upload_2017-7-27_6-0-26.jpeg.
I wouldn't doubt if there are child labor colonies in Mars. It sounds nuts though...
 

Tpat591

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Steele did this interview with Kerry Cassidy about a week ago and I was shaking my head wondering what hell he was thinking because it wouldn't look good for #Unrig. He apparently believes it all & is pushing for full Disclosure:


I believe he is sincere. I have my suspicions about why he is no longer an active agent. He tells it like it is regarding Israel & that says a lot.
 
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HazyShades

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Steele did this interview with Kerry Cassidy about a week ago and I was shaking my head wondering what hell he was thinking because it wouldn't look good for #Unrig. He apparently believes it all & is pushing for full Disclosure:

I believe much of it and am willing to consider some far fetched scenarios.
Many have been pushing for disclosure but it won't happen as long as silence gives an advantage.

Regarding Steele. Ex CIA? Surely you know of the documents that are required, the contracts and oaths of secrecy.
He may be a well connected and knowledgeable bullshit artist, maybe a provocateur.

I had a buddy with top secret clearance who worked at the NSA.
Once when I asked him about UFO's he refused to reply because I would become a liability.
They take their spy games seriously.
 

HazyShades

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Steele did this interview with Kerry Cassidy about a week ago and I was shaking my head wondering what hell he was thinking because it wouldn't look good for #Unrig. He apparently believes it all & is pushing for full Disclosure:


I believe he is sincere. I have my suspicions about why he is no longer an active agent. He tells it like it is regarding Israel & that says a lot.

Yea but any thinking man who bothers to dig a little will tell you about Zionists and Israel.
The act you mentioned above is proof of the Israeli lobby's pressure on our gub'min.

I don't like that the UN has singled out Israel for condemnation
but neither do I think that Israel merits special protection from defamation, especially if said protection violates our right to free speech.

I think we should have an act that prohibits the gub'min from issuing sanctions on other sovereign nations (Russia) without proper
verifiable evidence that said nation has engaged in hostile actions toward US.

These are interesting:
http://phibetaiota.net/2017/07/robert-david-steele-the-holocaust-zionism-aipac-guilt-by-association/

but then he appears with David Duke which sort of ruins Steele's credibility
https://davidduke.com/dr-duke-with-...jacking-of-usa-politics-the-trump-whitehouse/
 

Tpat591

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I believe much of it and am willing to consider some far fetched scenarios.
Many have been pushing for disclosure but it won't happen as long as silence gives an advantage.

Regarding Steele. Ex CIA? Surely you know of the documents that are required, the contracts and oaths of secrecy.
He may be a well connected and knowledgeable bullshit artist, maybe a provocateur.

I had a buddy with top secret clearance who worked at the NSA.
Once when I asked him about UFO's he refused to reply because I would become a liability.
They take their spy games seriously.
Know about all of that, but I have never heard him say anything that would technically violate that except maybe the SSP & the mars colony thing, but if he wasn't involved with anything professionally with that, he doesn't actually violate the oath. He is entitled to opinions & speaking in generalities on any subject. Maybe he is a bullshit artist, but I think he served. Thought he served as a strategist, PR guy or Dis-info agent at first when I first saw him. Thought he was one of the white hats trying to get Trump elected and promote him on social media as part of the CIA effort to overthrow Deep State influence. He could get out there & say stuff Trump couldn't & Trump can deny any affiliation. CIA definitely uses people like him as they are able to appeal to groups & marshal them for a purpose.

Like what he says until he starts saying he would close all our bases & bring all troops home - Stupid not to be forward deployed. That whole Truth & Reconciliation thing might keep you alive when talking about Hillary Clinton, but not locking these criminals up & leaving them out there to regroup & work against country later is just stupid. He has good instincts & could serve as an advisor, but I don't think I could vote for him any more than Cynthia McKinney.

I get he is sucking up to every nutcase with an audience & must for #Unrig to work so the Duke thing isn't surprising. Hell it is necessary. Building alliances & bringing disparate groups together is what it is all about. Wasn't like he was saying he burned a cross on someone's lawn last week.
 

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Steele did this interview with Kerry Cassidy about a week ago and I was shaking my head wondering what hell he was thinking because it wouldn't look good for #Unrig. He apparently believes it all & is pushing for full Disclosure:


I believe he is sincere. I have my suspicions about why he is no longer an active agent. He tells it like it is regarding Israel & that says a lot.
whoa...that's the whole roll of tinfoil....
 

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Damn, it was over 2 AM and you're still rubbing your ass.

Um, no. It was 12:17 mountain time. I was sound asleep at 2 AM. I suppose I could explain how the sun travels around the earth from east to west and how time zones work, but you'd just call it "undocumented" bullshit in an attempt to Adamantly debunk or discredit your theory that I was up all night just to fuck with you. In other word, your time settings on the time stamps on the bottom of the posts are not the same as mine. For instance, I don't think you got your ass out of bed at 2:59 AM like the time stamp on my computer says just to fuck with me. Taking into account the rotation of the earth, and the eastern time zone vs the mountain time zone, I suspect you wrote the post at 4:59 AM your time. :)

Did I write too many sentences again? Damn it! I must be ADAMANT that I live in the Mountain Time Zone.:giggle:


I didn't talk about you while you were off being a wanker nor have any interest in doing so.
I did however reply to your diatribe.

Except you did. You had a conversation with Pulse about me being like bobbi. Those were about me and were not replies to me. I wasn't there. ;)


YEA ASSHOLE, ADAMANT ABOUT DEBUNKING anything that doesn't fit your narrative.
I didn't call you out on anything, au contraire.. I know better than to argue with arrogant imbeciles with small egos.
As a matter of fact, I said as much..I don't want to argue".
I explained why I had decided to consider Dr Wood's evidence. I replied that your half ass attempt at debunking or dismissing Dr Wood's evidence prompted me to actually consider her research and change my opinion.
I have the right to consider that if an imbecile disregards an issue as unimportant then perhaps it's worth checking out.
Your small ego considers my disagreement with your conclusions an affront and makes you feel the need to insult and ridicule.
Go fuck yourself and stop projecting your inadequacy.

I didn't say a word about your disagreement with my conclusions. To the contrary, I said I don't care what you believe. What I did say was that I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. I see you now skip that part of the conversation. I have not argued with you about the theory, period. Hell, when you asked about her being dead, I conceded that she may not be and and it was something I saw on a search and it may not be true. The only thing we actually argued about was whether or not I was asked for my opinion. You're the only one that has a problem with my opinion that I was asked for. :)


Your small ego considers my disagreement with your conclusions an affront and makes you feel the need to insult and ridicule.

Bullshit. I did not mention your disagreement with my conclusions. I don't care if you disagree. What I corrected was your insistence that I was "adamant" about debunking the theory. I said I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. I have yet to argue with you about the theory. You keep harping on my opinion of the theory but I don't care if you like my opinion and I don't care if you disagree with it. What I do care about is that I was asked to give my opinion and you are jumping all over me for giving it. For fuck sake, you won't even admit that I was asked for it. The one thing we are actually arguing about, you won't address. I sure as fuck have not argued with you about the theory despite your constant dissing my opinion of it.;)


You have established a pattern of this bullshit with other people with whom you disagree.

Bullshit. This isn't about you disagreeing with my opinion. It's about you having a problem with me giving it. I corrected you about my purpose for giving my opinion and you got bent out of shape. You're the only one in the conversation that has a problem with me giving my opinion. We're not arguing about my opinion, or yours, we're arguing because of the reason I gave my opinion. I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to understand and admit that my purpose for giving the opinion was not to debunk but was because I was asked what I thought about it. :)


You and I have done this before and your MO hasn't changed much.

Imagine that. I admitted right off the bat that my reading that the Dr was dead might not be true and yet you don't say a fucking word that you may have been wrong about me being asked my opinion. And it's my MO that caused the riff? LOL Hell, two members commented about your post yesterday that started all this before I did. :rolleyes:


Run your fingers on your keyboard....
but I do have better things to do than argue with fools trying to act bigger than they are.
Get over it.

I'll get over it when you do. The only one here knocking someone else opinion is you(see below). I haven't said a word about yours. :wave:

I replied that your half ass attempt at debunking or dismissing Dr Wood's evidence

I have the right to consider that if an imbecile disregards an issue as unimportant then perhaps it's worth checking out.

And if you keep doing it, I'll be deep in your ass,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,again.:wait:
 
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No....its because JR got dragged into the BS............

Jeff should have made clear to Trump that he would have to recuse..... Re investigations involving the campaign elections and likely all Russia.....

That like taking a job for someone when you have a non compete clause with your new bosses main competitors. And not saying so prior to hire. In the non political world..... That could be illegal.... at minimum unethical......

Only reason this is a story... is TWITTER!

Proper procedure is for some unnamed source. To whisper such things to Wolfie or some other MSM hack.

Not the American people directly. ...

I bet the only reason Trump is still tweeting..... is he's waiting for Jeff to respond. Jeff just needs to grow a pair and dial the phone..... Simple as that.


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Trump does not have the balls right now to say to Sessions, "you're Fired!".
He wants sessions to quit.
And who pays sessions salary and benefits?
Sessions works for the citizens of the USA not the president.
 

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Trump does not have the balls right now to say to Sessions, "you're Fired!".
He wants sessions to quit.
And who pays sessions salary and benefits?
Sessions works for the citizens of the USA not the president.
Its because he wants Priebus to think he is going after Sessions so he will relax, screw up & he can catch him leaking something big with full documentation, fire his ass, & charge him with Treason.

He might just have Tony the Mooch Scaramucci do it. I could see it now:

 
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Its because he wants Priebus to think he is going after Sessions so he will relax, screw up & he can catch him leaking something big with full documentation, fire his ass, & charge him with Treason.
He might just have Scaramouchi do it. I could see it now:
LOL Treason is one word that Trump will avoid at all costs.

Bets on Trump winding up pardoning himself like Bush I?
 

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Does this mean John McCain, the DNC, & HRC were the ones that colluded with Russia?

Let's put it this way.... sure sounds like somebody did...... and the only real evidence of anything like collusion so far Has a democrats OR rhinos name attached to it....


YOU DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

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Let's put it this way.... sure sounds like somebody did...... and the only real evidence of anything like collusion so far Has a democrats OR rhinos name attached to it....


YOU DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

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I personally think that we should just line up and shoot the most corrupt 1/3 of congress to get their attention.
I am non partisan in this matter.

I also feel that ALL meetings with elected or appointed govt representatives should be recorded whether released to the public or not.
Any private non recorded meetings would be treason.
 

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I have never even walked into room where they were on.........

Only Brando conected movie I have seen is Apocalypse Now.

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Apocalypse now is a great movie . Have you at least seen wise guys? A Bronx tale ? Casino?


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Apocalypse now is a great movie . Have you at least seen wise guys? A Bronx tale ? Casino?


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Nope don't care for mob movies and the like.
wife likes em but then she likes Hillary too ;)
 
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