Trying to clone a recipe

[dferris999]

Hello I am new to DIY and I am trying to clone a recipe that I get from a local vape shop. They told me the ingredients, which are cinnamon ( bakers type cinnamon, not red hots), vanilla custard and 7 leaves tobacco. The juice has a very predominant cinnamon taste when vaping and a sweet taste. I do not know the brands of flavoring he uses for the vanilla custard or cinnamon.

If anyone can help me with some good percentages to try out I would greatly appreciate it.
I have these flavors.
Flavor Art 7 leaves ultimate
Flavor West Cinnamon
and Vanilla Custard from a company called Pure.

Thank you for any help.

 

[manthe]

Without having tasted this liquid, it is obviously impossible to say what brand of flavors are in it. But, given those ingredients, I know what I'D use (e.g. My favorite 'versions' of those flavors):

For the cinnamon, IMO there's no better one out there than FA Cinnamon Ceylon. Def. a 'baker's' type of cinnamon and def very, very good. Just be light-handed with it - a little goes a loooong way (I'd start at .1% and work upwards from there)! As for vanilla custards - well, that's a lot like talking religion in DIY circles. There are several different vanilla custards I like for several different reasons - and they all taste totally different from each other. But, for this particular mixture, I'd personally opt for Capella v2 Vanilla Custard. I like v1 better as a straight-up custard - but for this mix, I think it would be too buttery and 'custardy'. Their v2 variant is more mellow - more vanilla pudding-ish. Seems like it'd play with a tobacco a little nicer. None of those 3 ingredients on their own are very sweet. If this liquid is sweet then it's a good bet they added sweetener. Personally, for a mix like this, I'd prefer a little 'darker' sweetness - as such, I'd use TFA Brown Sugar - but you could get away with any of the Sucralose-based sweeteners I'm sure. If it were my mix, I'd also 'creamy it up' a little. Maybe a TFA whipped cream/TFA Sweet Cream mix. Last, but def. not least - ANY time I mix a tobacco flavor, I always add MTS Vape Wizard (Flavourart). I use it in a LOT of my mixes - it's a bit of a secret weapon IMO. Use sparingly - start at .15% to .2%.

Hope this helps a little.

 

[dferris999]

Without having tasted this liquid, it is obviously impossible to say what brand of flavors are in it. But, given those ingredients, I know what I'D use (e.g. My favorite 'versions' of those flavors):

For the cinnamon, IMO there's no better one out there than FA Cinnamon Ceylon. Def. a 'baker's' type of cinnamon and def very, very good. Just be light-handed with it - a little goes a loooong way (I'd start at .1% and work upwards from there)! As for vanilla custards - well, that's a lot like talking religion in DIY circles. There are several different vanilla custards I like for several different reasons - and they all taste totally different from each other. But, for this particular mixture, I'd personally opt for Capella v2 Vanilla Custard. I like v1 better as a straight-up custard - but for this mix, I think it would be too buttery and 'custardy'. Their v2 variant is more mellow - more vanilla pudding-ish. Seems like it'd play with a tobacco a little nicer. None of those 3 ingredients on their own are very sweet. If this liquid is sweet then it's a good bet they added sweetener. Personally, for a mix like this, I'd prefer a little 'darker' sweetness - as such, I'd use TFA Brown Sugar - but you could get away with any of the Sucralose-based sweeteners I'm sure. If it were my mix, I'd also 'creamy it up' a little. Maybe a TFA whipped cream/TFA Sweet Cream mix. Last, but def. not least - ANY time I mix a tobacco flavor, I always add MTS Vape Wizard (Flavourart). I use it in a LOT of my mixes - it's a bit of a secret weapon IMO. Use sparingly - start at .15% to .2%.

Hope this helps a little.

Thank you for the advice and I will make sure to add those flavors on my next order and check those out.

 

[Heabob]

I'd guess:
FW Cinnamon Roll 4-6% (Sweeter than FA)
CAP Vanilla Custard v1 5% (one of the best I've used)
FA 7 Leaves 4-5%

You may need to make some adjustments tho.

 

[dferris999]

I'd guess:
FW Cinnamon Roll 4-6% (Sweeter than FA)
CAP Vanilla Custard v1 5% (one of the best I've used)
FA 7 Leaves 4-5%

You may need to make some adjustments tho.

This is something that I have come up with that seems close but not the cinnamon taste I was looking for...any ideas


7 leaves ultimate (FA) 2 %

Cinnamon (FW) 10 %

Vanilla Custard Pure 15 %

This was done in 30 ml of max VG.

 

[Heabob]

This is something that I have come up with that seems close but not the cinnamon taste I was looking for...any ideas


7 leaves ultimate (FA) 2 %

Cinnamon (FW) 10 %

Vanilla Custard Pure 15 %

This was done in 30 ml of max VG.

One thing, it should be FW Cinnamon Roll, it's a different type of Cinnamon.
Can be used at 7% stand alone but it's kinda hard on coils.
Never tried that brand of Custard before, but I'd try it with 10% first anyway.

 

[dferris999]

One thing, should be FW Cinnamon Roll, it's a different type of Cinnamon.
Can be used at 7% stand alone but it's kinda hard on coils.
Never tried that brand of Custard before, but I'd try it with 10% first anyway.

I will try those adjustments...Thank you