Ultra newnoob here, which one should i buy?

[jay2737]

should i buy this? http://www.beyondvape.com/store/all...-vape-neptune-hybrid-v1-mod-black-p-1457.html

is it worth the money? also what else do i need? just juice and batteries?
never vaped before except the blu cheap stuff at the stores
just want something awesome and reliable and somewhat small = fits in pocket

 

[BoomStick]

Absolutely not. That is the exact wrong thing to buy for someone that knows nothing about vape gear. It doesn't get much more complicated than those devices. If you were to get really educated on setting up and using something like that first then maybe, but even then.....

 

[UncleRJ]

Absolutely NOT!

And I am not trying to sound like a freaking elitist but these kind of mods are not meant for new vapers.

And they can hurt you BADLY if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing.

What is your budget?

We will be happy to help you once you let us know!

 

[MarkS]

I would suggest starting with an iPV mini 2 and a Kanger Subtank. That way when you become more educated and equipped you can step into coil building and wicking. Once you become familiar with that you can advance to other things... perhaps a mod with some safety features and an atomizer allowing more flexibility in coil builds. The last step would be going into a bare bones unregulated mod and extreme sub-ohm coil builds.

I say this based upon my journey. I'm an Electronic Engineer by education and have the knowledge to have started with building my own mod. But, I chose to start with an Innokin iTaste CLK kit. I then went to an Aspire Nautilus Mini and iPV Mini. Now I have a Yiloong Fogger V6 with a Dovpo GX200 on the way in the mail. I also just got a Kanger iPOW 1600 mAh to have with my Nautilus Mini in the car and at work.

 

[OB61887]

Looks like you are getting good advice. If you want recommendations on what to buy most people here will give you more than you would care for. With that said, as I haven't posted yet, the above advice is incomplete.

Just curious, do you know what you are looking for in terms of vapor production and air draw? Is this your first vape product or have you tried some that would give us a better idea of the experience you are looking for? If you want a tight draw that is closer to smoking, I would recommend a Aspire Nautilus or Nautilus mini tank on something like the IPV mini. If you want more vapor and a looser draw (a lung inhale instead of mouth to lung) I would recommend any sub tank (Aspire Atlantis, Kanger Sub tank, Joytech Delta V2 < My favorite tank) with the IPV2 mini.

Long story short, regardless of the experience you are looking for I would start with a clearomizer (pre-built coils) and a regulated variable wattage mod. Then once you are comfortable with that and know what you like you can work into rebuildables.

 

[Byter]

I would suggest starting with an iPV mini 2 and a Kanger Subtank. That way when you become more educated and equipped you can step into coil building and wicking. Once you become familiar with that you can advance to other things... perhaps a mod with some safety features and an atomizer allowing more flexibility in coil builds. The last step would be going into a bare bones unregulated mod and extreme sub-ohm coil builds.

I say this based upon my journey. I'm an Electronic Engineer by education and have the knowledge to have started with building my own mod. But, I chose to start with an Innokin iTaste CLK kit. I then went to an Aspire Nautilus Mini and iPV Mini. Now I have a Yiloong Fogger V6 with a Dovpo GX200 on the way in the mail. I also just got a Kanger iPOW 1600 mAh to have with my Nautilus Mini in the car and at work.

I agree the IPV mini's are a good start and provide enough power for upgrades later. I'd add if you look at other regulated devices, you have a choice to make. Short term low cost like an eleaf istick whose battery will die in a couple of years of hard use and is then disposable or something a bit more flexible and powerful like a mini with exchangeable 18650 batteries. If you plan to vape a lot like an ex smoker would and you don't have USB plug ins everywhere you need them, then easily changeable (that means without a screwdriver or hex wrench) 18650's are great feature to look for. If I were starting today I'd look for exchangeable 18650 battery and minimum of 40w because I would be covered from starter tanks to sub ohm tanks with easy to find replacement coils. Even if you start building your own coils and decide to go mechanical, a decent regulated mod is a good backup to have around.

 

[madmonkey]

Dude, I have to chime in and agree with the guys above...you're playing right into my theory about younger people just wanting "something cool to blow the big clouds with" and that is the exact wrong place to start. The only real way to even check your resistance on a hybrid is with a digital multimeter, and a good one at that, not the 7 dollar one at harbor freight.

I'd go with the Nautilus or Nautilus mini on an Istick if you're just starting out and want to get off cigs. Vaping can become a really fun hobby in time but without proper safety observed it can be equally as dangerous. If you have to blow big clouds than get an Atlantis tank or Kanger Subtank and something like a Segelei 100 watt plus or IPV 2 or their 150 watt cousins. They're regulated devices with built in safeties and have sufficient power to push the sub ohm coils in the Atlantis or Subtank. And make sure you get a good battery charger if you do go with one of the high powered regulated devices and good batteries like the Samsung 25R's or LG HE4's or better. Buying a cheap battery and/or cheap ass charger in the name of saving a couple bucks is almost as dangerous as wrapping coils with no knowledge on a hybrid in the first place.

Safety first my friend...that thing will still be there when you're ready...but even if you insist on going down the RDA dripping road head first...start with a regulated box mod and a normal RDA atty that you can screw into an Ohms reader and check your resistance, learn to use an ohms law calculator like this one http://thelocust.net/ohm/ , and know your device's limits, or if you buy a mech then make sure you know your batteries limits and don't push them in the beginning.

All of this is said with the best interest of your face and fingers in mind We'll get you set up and vaping clouds in no time, but baby steps my friend, baby steps

 

[MarkS]

Here is how I have progressed since 11/28/2014:

12/2014:

1/2015:

2/2015 (A better little vape for on the road & at work):

2/2015 (Waiting for delivery):

 

[madmonkey]

Awe...Vaper's,,,,they grow up so fast. Just seems like yesterday he was on his first little clearo/eGo and now he's already in flow blow high wattage regulation...his mother must be so proud

@MarkS --just kidding but seriously though, I went from this

to these in 2 months...

Those are Diver V2 atty's in the carto tanks...it happened so quick,,, one day I was swimming around my fishbowl, then I grew legs and hands, and then I took off running and spread my wings and flew head on into a RDA tree then fell and landed on a Kayfun...it was so much fun when it was all new. I still like building coils but sometimes when I am tired after work it feels more like a chore than a hobby to rebuild/rewick for the next days vape I hope you never get that feeling my friend...but like I said, baby steps. I didn't just jump into a hybrid.

Back then..building 1.5 ohm coils was considered low resistance and 28 gauge wire was riskee' ...times changed fast...probably too fast...but we're here now and all we can do is help each other figure it out

 

[Mike H.]

I went from a kanger evod kit...to a protank 2 tank still on evod 650mah kit batteries to an MVP 20w still using kanger basic tanks within a years time.

 

[jack]

All the above ... great advice . For that amount of cash, right now, there is lots better . What ever keeps you away from the smokie , is whats right for you . There is always someone pushing the newest and the latest , it's a business ! Shop around and see whats out there . Lots of folks still use the stick battery and a kanger or aspire tank , cheap and does the job . Lost or breaks , no big deal buy another .

 

[jay2737]

Thanks guys!, good thing i didnt jump on that one.
Plans have changed, im thinking of something under 50 dollars i want something just plug in and play what would you go for right now?
Also i dont really care for alot of smoke, just reliable and something i can easily fit in my pocket.
This is gonna help me and my dad quit smoking, he smokes alot so maybe i start him off with more nicotine
but for my setup probably low nicotine if any

 

[jay2737]

how is this http://www.beyondvape.com/store/all...ter-kit-900mah-black-usb-passthru-p-1556.html

 

[Mike H.]

how is this http://www.beyondvape.com/store/all...ter-kit-900mah-black-usb-passthru-p-1556.html

I would probably pass on that...youll want at least 2 batteries to get you through a full day..The tanks are ok i suppose with the kit but they are disposable throw away tanks after x amount of time using them....You cant simply take out the coil and rinse out the tank for a new flavor you may want to try.

The Kanger Evod kit is a wonderful kit...great tanks and reliable batteries...they sell a double kit which gives you 2 tanks..2 batteries...A usb charger and a wall charger...plus 5 replaceable coils...can find those kits on ebay for around 32 bucks shipped.

Thats the exact kit that got me off cigs...I recommend it to anyone..One year later and the batteries still charge and the tanks still work...so does the wall charger and usb cable.

I would get 2 of those kits for you and your dad..Very good quality set up.

 

[jay2737]

thinking of the istick as someone suggested looks pretty awesome did some research ,
quick question... do i need to buy coils for the tanks reading up they only last 1 week?
do i need anything else to get besides e-juice and coils
already got the charger
thanks fellas!

 

[OB61887]

For clearos (where you don't build tanks), I find that sub ohm tanks last much longer. With that said, I always buy a pack of 5 extra coils with a tank just in case. I try to always have 1 in the atty and 2 in reserve. If you get the istick,. you will need an atty, a battery, and juice. For the battery, I recommend an LG HE2 but if you use a clearo most 18650s will work fine. For your atty, I would go to a good vape shop near you. Good shops should have attys for you to sample with rubber disposable mouth pieces. I would find the atty and juice that is right for you. Then compare prices with online. I will pay $10 more for a $30 atty in shop to get it now, but some shops will charge you double.

 

[jay2737]

For clearos (where you don't build tanks), I find that sub ohm tanks last much longer. With that said, I always buy a pack of 5 extra coils with a tank just in case. I try to always have 1 in the atty and 2 in reserve. If you get the istick,. you will need an atty, a battery, and juice. For the battery, I recommend an LG HE2 but if you use a clearo most 18650s will work fine. For your atty, I would go to a good vape shop near you. Good shops should have attys for you to sample with rubber disposable mouth pieces. I would find the atty and juice that is right for you. Then compare prices with online. I will pay $10 more for a $30 atty in shop to get it now, but some shops will charge you double.

doesnt the eleaf istick have a battery in it already?

 

[OB61887]

Yea, I was being dumb and thinking of the IPV. One thing to consider with the istick is that it doesn't push out enough watts for sub ohm tanks. I'm not sure if the resistance goes low enough. But if you find you like something like the nautilus, it should do what you need and is about as plug and play as you get with a good vape.

 

[dubya314]

doesnt the eleaf istick have a battery in it already?

The istick comes ready to go. Ive been vaping about 6 weeks now, using a isick 20 watt and a couple of aspire mini nautilus tanks. Im absolutely loving it.
I do have one suggestion from some struggles that I had in the beginning. My tanks were constantly flooding. (Gurgling sound, wet taste). I read a lot about not being tight enough. For me this was untrue, as I was actually over tightening. I started to just snug them up, then maybe 1/4 more turn, then vapin heaven!!!! Hope this helps and good luck

 

[Chainvapor]

Yea, I was being dumb and thinking of the IPV. One thing to consider with the istick is that it doesn't push out enough watts for sub ohm tanks. I'm not sure if the resistance goes low enough. But if you find you like something like the nautilus, it should do what you need and is about as plug and play as you get with a good vape.

The new istick 50watt pushes pretty well for sub-ohm tanks. Maybe not super power for a RDA but plenty enough for most (non-rebuildable) tanks on the market right now. (ie subtank,atlantis,vaporchaser,arctic,etc.)

Also, someone commented earler saying the istick was a throw-away mod after the battery no longer holds a charge (maybe a year). Honestly, that is irrelevant considering in under a year you will have MUCH better equipment to choose from and will more than likely retire your istick long before the battery is no longer viable. The technology is moving extremely fast these days. I have been vaping for over 5 years and I started with a basic Riva 510 ecig (anyone else remember those?? HEHE).

As far as beginners go, the first question that should always be asked...........Mouth to Lung hits OR Direct Lung Hits?? Your equipment will be COMPLETELY different depending on the answer to this question.

 

[MarkS]

I like the idea of an Eleaf iStick. Since budget seems to be a driving factor then an iStick 20 full kit (should be able to get one for around $33). For a tank I would say a Kanger Aerotank Mow Mega (actually I'm an Aspire Nautilus fan but it costs more and so do the replacement coils). You should be able to pick one of those up for around $21. You should be able to get the replacement coil 5-pack for around $8 (I would suggest the long holes at 1.8 ohms). 101vape and sweet-vapes are good sites.

If you can go a little more cost wise I would encourage you to look at the Eleaf iStick 30 (+$7) or 50 (+$20) and also at the Aspire Nautilus (+$4 to +$5 depending on mini or full size) or Kanger Subtank Mini (+$13, but will give you the ability to rebuild with your own coil and wick later... but you can just about buy a totally separate rebuildabe for that price difference). Coil 5-pack replacements for the Nautilus are +$4 and Subtank Mini are +$6.

Having never tried the Mow Mega, I personally would lean toward the Nautilus and for such little cost difference between 20W and 30W I would go with the iStick 30. I have occasionally been able to find 5-packs of coils for my Nautilus Mini for $10. I prefer the Mini due to me liking to frequently change the juice I'm vaping.

Take your time in deciding! My first was basically an impulse buy without getting input from someone who had been there and done that. You being on here seeking input shows thoughtfulness. There are tons of choices. Happy vaping to you and your Dad and congratulations on looking to quit analog smokes.

 

[madmonkey]

The new istick 50watt pushes pretty well for sub-ohm tanks. Maybe not super power for a RDA but plenty enough for most (non-rebuildable) tanks on the market right now. (ie subtank,atlantis,vaporchaser,arctic,etc.)

Also, someone commented earler saying the istick was a throw-away mod after the battery no longer holds a charge (maybe a year). Honestly, that is irrelevant considering in under a year you will have MUCH better equipment to choose from and will more than likely retire your istick long before the battery is no longer viable. The technology is moving extremely fast these days. I have been vaping for over 5 years and I started with a basic Riva 510 ecig (anyone else remember those?? HEHE).

As far as beginners go, the first question that should always be asked...........Mouth to Lung hits OR Direct Lung Hits?? Your equipment will be COMPLETELY different depending on the answer to this question.

LOL....I haven't seen a Riva in awhile...but I still have working GOGO and VGo 808 batteries complete with their cartomizers and 2.4 and "low ohm" 1.8 counterparts if anyone is interested in a museum piece? Should have stuck with vaping the first time I try'd it 2012 instead of buying everything when I stuck to it 2013....back then there was still some ranting about Gogos and 808/901 setups and now I rarely even see someone mentioning them...I made the mistake of investing backwards the first month and not being able to invest forward enough the second....and lost my tax return making up for it in the sixth...with stats like that I could give Wall Street a run for it's money