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Awesome you finally got one! Hope you're liking it, while at home it's basically all I've used and in TC mode since I got it.

Also, I will double check, but mine from the same vendor has a 6 month Asmodus card just like my iPV3 and Mini 2. You might want to look into that. Sigelei is 3 months, maybe they threw one of their cards in? Or, maybe they're dropping to 3 months for future units.
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This is the card I got. It reminds me how the ipv3 was it was listed as 12mth and then the card said 6mth.

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I received my device today and followed Rip Trippers Nickel build. It is working flawlessly. I want to thank Ctfx and everyone else for all the information. Once again I am a very happy vapor guy. Now time to play with some more builds. :)
 

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Thanks.

This is the card I got. It reminds me how the ipv3 was it was listed as 12mth and then the card said 6mth.

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Yeah, vendors still list the iPV3 as one year... It's six months, better than Sigelei, though.

Anyway, I have a six month warranty card. Pretty identical, but says six... Might wanna see what others here got, and or email Wake and Vape.

I can take a pic if you'd like, but it looks the same I think, just the whole six months thing.
 

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Same as mine.
 

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hmmmm maybe they put the wrong device card in the box. Is the ipv mini v2 a 3mth warranty? The ipv3 warranty lapsed without incident but odd that mine is different.
 

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Those little booklets are so incorrect anyways that it wouldn't surprise me that one of them is a misprint lol
 

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hmmmm maybe they put the wrong device card in the box. Is the ipv mini v2 a 3mth warranty? The ipv3 warranty lapsed without incident but odd that mine is different.
Just checked, the Mini 2 is 6 months. They are the same cards, just say 6 months. My guess is Sigelei warranty card in your box. They all just say device. I'm sure Wake and Vape will help you. Hope so.
 

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Just checked, the Mini 2 is 6 months. They are the same cards, just say 6 months. My guess is Sigelei warranty card in your box. They all just say device. I'm sure Wake and Vape will help you. Hope so.
I don't know how helpful W&V will be since the package was wrapped and unopened but maybe.
 

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I don't know how helpful W&V will be since the package was wrapped and unopened but maybe.
Yeah that would be a P4Y error I would assume. The vendor's sending them don't have anything to do with the internal packaging
 

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That is my thinking too.
Well, I got mine from W&V today as well, my warranty card is the 3 month also. I also noted that one of the lines in the instruction manual under the "Standard Package" section is blacked out with what appears to be sharpie. It is the line that lists the charging cable in TheBloke's youtube review. My guess is that P4Y dropped down to a 3 month after the first run or two along with "removing" the charge cable from the box contents list.

I don't hold this against W&V for the reason previously stated and they don't specifically state any warranty period. It appears that the specifications are copied from a listing by P4Y as seen below. Kinda sucks that some of us got a shorter time limit, but I am assuming that unless you get lucky enough to get one from the first batch or two you're stuck with 3 months. I still think the price is right at $70 including shipping (they changed to flat rate $5, I had the option of first class $3.?? or priority $7.15) with the coupon code. I paid only $20 less than that for an iStick 50.
  • Limited warranty issued by ASMODUS – a USA service center.
 

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Well, I got mine from W&V today as well, my warranty card is the 3 month also. I also noted that one of the lines in the instruction manual under the "Standard Package" section is blacked out with what appears to be sharpie. It is the line that lists the charging cable in TheBloke's youtube review. My guess is that P4Y dropped down to a 3 month after the first run or two along with "removing" the charge cable from the box contents list.

I don't hold this against W&V for the reason previously stated and they don't specifically state any warranty period. It appears that the specifications are copied from a listing by P4Y as seen below. Kinda sucks that some of us got a shorter time limit, but I am assuming that unless you get lucky enough to get one from the first batch or two you're stuck with 3 months. I still think the price is right at $70 including shipping (they changed to flat rate $5, I had the option of first class $3.?? or priority $7.15) with the coupon code. I paid only $20 less than that for an iStick 50.
  • Limited warranty issued by ASMODUS – a USA service center.
Yeah I was thinking W&V has no control over that since warranties are not through vendor but Asmodus. You are probably right about the warranty changing to a 3mth. I just looked and I too have the line sharpied out in the contents section lol.
 

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OMG!!! I am loving temp control/limiting/whatever! This is awesome, I can dial in the heat/throat hit ratio that I like. Get more of the different flavor profiles that come at different temperatures without burning the crap out of my throat. I cannot wait for more devices with this feature to come out so I can add to my collection......so when is the IPV3 Li coming out? Since it is an P4Y product god only knows, but I can't wait if it is anything like the IPV4. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. I think I need to save up the money and get an SX Mini M class now.
 

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Was on MVC FB group forum this morning. Something to watch out for or be careful of.

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Thank god it was technically user error. I don't use the charger, but it wasn't smart putting the port by the atty without a plug. Now we know why. Hope this doesn't become prevalent. This is about the easiest mod to get the batteries out of quickly, at least.
 

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Thank god it was technically user error. I don't use the charger, but it wasn't smart putting the port by the atty without a plug. Now we know why. Hope this doesn't become prevalent. This is about the easiest mod to get the batteries out of quickly, at least.

Why was it user error? Attys commonly leak (at least mine do). I've wiped off juice from my IPV4 more times than I care to count! I wondered the same thing about needing a plug for the charging port. Or was it plugged in with a leaking atty? (Hard to see the pics!)
 

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Yeah I have no need for a charger, and I maticulously clean my mod and atty. So no worries
 

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Why was it user error? Attys commonly leak (at least mine do). I've wiped off juice from my IPV4 more times than I care to count! I wondered the same thing about needing a plug for the charging port. Or was it plugged in with a leaking atty? (Hard to see the pics!)
I have leaks occur as well, and they are not the fault of the device. It isn't designed to have liquid in it, despite it's purpose being vaporizing liquid. P4Y can absolutely be blamed for placement of the port, and IMO, having one at all. The user got liquid in the port, and obviously knew since it's listed as the reason, yet continued to use the port. Not the greatest idea.
 

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Just wait until you have to clean juice from the internals because the 510 isn't sealed.
 

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Was on MVC FB group forum this morning. Something to watch out for or be careful of.

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Sweet Baby Jesus .... Here's a cool concept.
Charge port- route for electricity to travel to battery. This means that the little electric thingy right there, goes to where the big electric thingies are that make your juice magically turn into the vapor.
In most applications liquid mixing with electricity is bad.
Therefore having that little electric thingy right below the leaky liquid holder thingy is dumb. Putting a piece of electrical tape or getting a little rubber thingy to shove in the electric thingy is probably a good idea.
P4U should have spent an extra Cents to put a rubber thingy in there. Since they didn't this free thinking human put a piece of tape over it for now, until he can find a rubber thingy.
 

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I'm thinking a ye olde carto plug would fit in there with a bit of rejiggering.

If all else fails, HOT GLUE!
 

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I'm thinking a ye olde carto plug would fit in there with a bit of rejiggering.

If all else fails, HOT GLUE!
Better yet JBWeld, that shit will dry black and it'll mold to the grip.
 

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I'm thinking the seam, directly above the charging port, between the battery cover and the device, will still be vulnerable. Some type of insulator might need to cover the actual prong connection inside the opening...something like those little rubber things that slip over the screw on needle top bottle caps:
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Good thing I did my research before getting this device. Our vape community has already produces one good alterations for the mirror display.

Just got mine from Wake and Vape. Instruction manual has no temp control instructions lol. Crossed out charging equipment included and 3 month warranty information.

This is my first temp. monitoring device. With 5 hours of operation working good with .06 dual nickel on a Infinite Stellare.

I understand this is an entry model that allows me to determine if it fit into my vaping style before spending on a better built device. My first impressions are good.
 

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What are the actual spec's on the ipv4? I thought the lowest coil in temp mode was .12 but I see posts of users using .06 coils
 

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What are the actual spec's on the ipv4? I thought the lowest coil in temp mode was .12 but I see posts of users using .06 coils
Its said to be .12 but I usually build around .055-.09 without issue. I think the specs are more along the lines of the sx mini. Plus this board has a higher amp limit so I'm sure its not .12
 

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Does ohm's calculator number work on this mod?

.055 coil running at 2.5 volts = 45 amps and 113 watts
 

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Does ohm's calculator number work on this mod?

.055 coil running at 2.5 volts = 45 amps and 113 watts

I would suggest not. Software is controlling temp, amps and joules for ramp up. The suggestion is appr 50 to 60 joules max. I know from using the IPV4 my .08 single coil at 50 joules isn't firing at 3.16 volts the display states, this would be 39 amps and appr 124 watts. I would notice heat from the batteries, I'm not sure what the voltage displayed represents. More research

Somebody will chime if they know
 

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I would suggest not. Software is controlling temp, amps and joules for ramp up. The suggestion is appr 50 to 60 joules max. I know from using the IPV4 my .08 single coil at 50 joules isn't firing at 3.16 volts the display states, this would be 39 amps and appr 124 watts. I would notice heat from the batteries, I'm not sure what the voltage displayed represents. More research

Somebody will chime if they know
The resistance rises a lot once heated the number your see is the baseline and the board is reading the rise and adjusting to keep your settings. It reaches around .3-.5 once heated
 

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The resistance rises a lot once heated the number your see is the baseline and the board is reading the rise and adjusting to keep your settings. It reaches around .3-.5 once heated

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Good you here.
Constant monitoring. Temp monitor.
I'm slow today,lol, everyday
 

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Yes it is confusing. I could not figure how these could be run at that amp level and voltage. You would need 50 amp batteries if ohm's law applied
 

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I'm thinking the seam, directly above the charging port, between the battery cover and the device, will still be vulnerable. Some type of insulator might need to cover the actual prong connection inside the opening...something like those little rubber things that slip over the screw on needle top bottle caps:
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Not to cover the prong, you need to plug that hole where the prong is. You don't want any juice getting inside that part of the mod period. That's what happen to the one in the pic's. Also just be careful when juicing things up and try to keep the area dry. Always check inside the battery compartment that it's always dry. Like they say better safe than sorry.
 

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I don't think ohms law applies with temp control
 

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I only have 20 amp batteries right now. 35 amp batteries are in mail. I have mine setup at .11 at 22j voltage shows 2.56. When I checked that using ohm's calculator it was 20 amps.... It's like maybe I better turn it way down. But it sounds like it's not really drawing 20 amps
 

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I don't think ohms law applies with temp control
Yes ohms law applies. . It is using ohms law, like all VW mods do, only the Resistance variable in the equation is changing.
The resistance of the coil is changing as Its heating up. But the board does not show the changes; it is showing the the resistance you paired to the mod. And internally reading the resistance and changing the output to govern the temperature.
 

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But we have no idea how to apply ohm's law as we don't know what the resistance is while the mod is firing. No way to know how many amps are being drawn
 

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Anyone know where they will be posting the date for the black ipv4 release?
 

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You have
But we have no idea how to apply ohm's law as we don't know what the resistance is while the mod is firing. No way to know how many amps are being drawn
Ive been multiplying joules by 1.2 and using that as watts.
Then using P/V=I
 

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Or,,, one can assume that it has a maximum output current of 'X' (350j is 40a) I would and do make sure my batteries can support that regardless .

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If a watt is defined as joule over time, one can assume that their joules are using the cutoff limit, so wattage would be joules over the cut off limit will give you wattage then go back to p/v=t
 

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I will just keep reading and researching. I got over 3 days of battery life using 3100 mah batteries. I vaped through 15 ml of juice with my settings of .12 ohms, 22 joules, 420 f
 

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I mean I made a few assumptions based on the math, if you find something concrete I would love to hear.
 

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I will just keep reading and researching. I got over 3 days of battery life using 3100 mah batteries. I vaped through 15 ml of juice with my settings of .12 ohms, 22 joules, 420 f

Hopefully those aren't the Efest 3100mah, The cells are rated at sub 10a despite Efest selling them as 20a batteries.

I wish I got that kind of battery life though, I'm swapping out 25Rs at least once daily. :(
 

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i got a pair of the new efest 38a 2100 mah 18650's. Seem to be fine. I like the tight wrapper. They hit as hard as my sony vtc4's but seem to last a bit less time. (I have noticed that if my battery bar reads 1/4 strength i get "change battery" display. Seems like if the low end for battery use is 3.5 that they should have made the battery bar reveal the usable space to make for a more accurate reflection in display. IMO. But hey... so easy to swap batteries who can complain?)
 

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