I don't know why that should be. Cigarettes don't cause me to cough. I wonder why that is. Maybe its the tar in cigarettes that help shield my lungs to some degree. I tried looking up the problem of vaping causing you to cough. It said that it was the nicotine in vape juice that causes that problem. They suggested holding the smoke in your mouth for a moment before inhaling. Also, when I bought my vape pen, I got the the vape juice that was just below the maximum amount in the vape juice that the vape store sold. Could it be that I got vape juice with too high of a nicotine content? What do you think.
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Cigarettes have a cough suppressant in them. It's normal (and good) to cough when you start vaping.
Find a flavor you like and slowly reduce the % of nicotine and relax.
Keep your equipment clean and replace your coils when they get dirty.
The new disposable devices are a LOT better than they used to be.
Find a flavor you like and slowly reduce the % of nicotine and relax.
Keep your equipment clean and replace your coils when they get dirty.
The new disposable devices are a LOT better than they used to be.
Try inhaling less vapor at a time. Even between vape mods and disposables, there are differences in how much you may need to inhale before you have a coughing fit. One uses regular vape juice, and the other uses nic salts. You really do not need to inhale much at all when using disposables with nic salts in them.
Through the Brave browser, I did an AI search as to whether or not cigarettes have a cough suppressant in them. Turns out, they don't. In fact, the AI said that for some individuals, nicotine can act as a cough suppressant. Also, the vape shop I bought my vape stuff from makes their own vape juice. I have heard on the news about some of the chemicals they put into vape juice turned out to be harmful. The kind of vape juice I wanted they made. The kind with only two chemicals in it. Nicotine and Propylene Glycol.
With the vape pen that I had, it didn't put out much smoke to begin with. I have seen people vaping who exhaled a big cloud of smoke. What I had wasn't like that at all. As for "nic salts," I've never heard of that. My vape pen broke, so I went looking on the internet for replacements. I saw some that apparently were made to burn something dry. Is that what you are talking about?
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This is why you are coughing and why there is not any vapor/clouds being produced. PG by itself is harsh and produces little to no vapor. Adding VG will produce vapor and will not be as harsh.
Those are made to consume wacky tobaccy, herb, weed, what ever you want to call it. We do not talk about those here.
Nic salts are nicotine that has gone through a process that removes the harshness so you can get the effects of nicotine while vaping less. Salt juice is generally used in pod mods at higher concentrations approaching 50 mg/ml.
That is when some tried to use vapes that contained THC and other chemicals. What we vape is PG, VG, nicotine, and food grade flavorings that are typically carried in PG.
As an FYI we do not smoke we vape as there is no burning of material to produce smoke. E-liquids are vaporized which produces a vapor cloud.
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If your vape pen is putting out any smoke, dispose of it immediately.
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AI only knows what ppl tell it to know. Ppl here know more about vaping than AI does.
Get your vaping knowledge from experienced vapers. And it's doubtful you'll fine those ppl at a vape shop.
Get your vaping knowledge from experienced vapers. And it's doubtful you'll fine those ppl at a vape shop.
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Cough when you first start vaping is your body saying, wait a min...this isn't smoke, what is this? -reject-reject.
So what you do is take tiny puffs of vape every time you want to smoke, you don't have to see vapor on the exhale at first. Key being, don't cough. If you cough you've inhaled too much. Your still going to smoke after that because that wont get you enough nic. So then smoke to get your fix. Then repeat the process every time you want to pick up a cig. before too long you'll find yourself able to inhale more vapor, reducing the need for smoke. Keep doing that till the vape replaces the cig.
Took me 2 weeks from 1.5+ pks a day but it can take longer. Just stay with it.
So what you do is take tiny puffs of vape every time you want to smoke, you don't have to see vapor on the exhale at first. Key being, don't cough. If you cough you've inhaled too much. Your still going to smoke after that because that wont get you enough nic. So then smoke to get your fix. Then repeat the process every time you want to pick up a cig. before too long you'll find yourself able to inhale more vapor, reducing the need for smoke. Keep doing that till the vape replaces the cig.
Took me 2 weeks from 1.5+ pks a day but it can take longer. Just stay with it.
You could be right about PG being harsh. But when I looked up the reason why with the Brave browser AI as to why vaping makes you cough, it said that it was the nicotine that caused that. It didn't mention PG as being the culprit. Of course I could have skipped the AI and looked over what was listed on the internet myself. But the AI does that a lot better and faster than I could.
Next, I am fairly new to vaping. The only reason why I did so at all is because when I go on my main main shopping trip once a month, I have my brother give me a ride. And he doesn't like me smoking in his car. But vaping is ok. So I hope you won't think I am too stupid by asking, what is VG.
I also mentioned to some degree as to why I chose to get my vape juice with only PG and nicotine. A further reason why is that about 4 years ago they had something going around the news about vaping. It spoke of some younger people who were actually getting lung damage from vaping. That is because one of the chemicals they used turned into something harmful when it was vaporized. Which was an unexpected consequence. If there is anything else that can be added to vape juice that on the surface seems safe, but when turned into vapor turns into something harmful, I want to avoid that at all costs. I take it that "VG" isn't one of those. Or I doubt if you would have suggested it. But when it comes to making you cough, when it is you vs AI, you were apparently wrong about the answer. Maybe you would be equally wrong concerning any possible harmful effects of "VG."
As you know, when you look up a subject on the internet, many pages of websites comes up dealing with the topic. The Brave browser's AI does all that a lot faster than I can. I ask it what I want to know and it will go through who knows how many websites to find some answers. (Yes, there are usually many answers provided) AI is a useful thing. It might also interest you to know that AI requires 5 times more power to do an internet search than doing it yourself does. That is because it goes through far more information far faster than any human could.
I bet they sure did when you first started.
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Yep. Understand all that. What I was getting at is: all the web pages it draws the info from...> what's true and accurate? what's trustworthy? all come down to the ppl(person) who wrote the info AI got it from. What if it gets it from a research that was produced by a company, that was hired by the one's paying them...an intity ? Do you not think that the researcher's results will coincide with their clients position or viewpoints? Or do you think for e.g., Moms and Dads Against Vaping hired a research firm that they knew would give them the results they want?
Anyone can get any article or research to say what they want it to say. Hence the need for real world experience, as in vaping.
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It could have been expected. With the feds trying to stamp out vaping instead of regulating e-liquid, left a scenario for ppl the prey on the public, causing illness and death. But it was outside the realm of what vaping actually is, which includes the use of e-liquid containing safer proven ingredients.
If you're using only PG (+nic), this would be the main reason for the cough. PG produces a throat hit, like a cig has. E-liquid should be mostly Vegetable Glycerin, some use 50/50 but not many. Mostly 70-80VG/30PG
If you're using this on road trips to not smoke, you're just kidding yourself. You should be vaping all the time and no cigs.
You should be so much more afraid of smoking than using e-liquid.
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Polypropylene Glycol (PG) is the primary carrier for flavors and is also used in asthma inhalers. Some folks are allergic to PG which is why most current ejuices contain a lot of Vegetable Glycerin (VG). VG also produces more clouds than PG.
The lung damage was caused by counterfeit pods that contained THC (what gets you high with weed) and carriers that were not really safe for vaping. We don't use those in nicotine vaping. Just nicotine (what I use is carried in PG), PG, VG, and food grade flavorings. I make my own (DIY) and I haven't bought pre-made ejuice in many years. I'm still alive and kicking after 11 years of vaping.
AI in general is GIGO, garbage in, garbage out... It all depends on the sourcing of the info.
No other browser that I am aware of has the ability to do a search using AI.
I have never known Brave browsers AI to give incorrect information. It said that it was the nicotine in vape juice that caused some people at least to cough. Though I didn't always have Brave browser. A few years ago I did my own search on the internet about the problem. That was the answer I came up with. Just for the hell of it, a little while back I did another search with the Brave browser AI. It gave the same answer.
I don't think that the lung damage that was reported was caused by THC. Because at the time, it was illegal. Why would anybody put something illegal into their vape juice. Also, people have been smoking weed for a long time. I have never heard of weed causing lung damage. Despite its having THC in it. Though I have heard of some governments spraying herbicide on marijuana fields to kill them. And sometimes those growing the weed would harvest it and sell it anyway. Which definitely did cause problems.
Also, as you may guess, I did an AI search about the problem through Brave browser. The main chemical listed as potentially causing lung damage was Proplyene glycol. (I wish I had known that before) It says that when it is heated it can produce harmful byproducts such as formaldehyde and acrolein. Besides those two, though not connected to PG are chemicals such as diacetyl, vitamine E, acetate, acetaldehyde. For more information on the matter, this website may interest you.
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urmc.rochester.edu › news › story › chemicals-in-vaping-flavors-cause-widespread-damage-to-lung-tissue
Chemicals in Vaping Flavors Cause Widespread Damage to Lung Tissue | URMC Newsroom
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Depends on how you interpret the info.
Take your Medical Center's article: That's a rabbit hole full of rabbit holes.
Uses others' articles to compile a view point, using words like could be, might have potentially, etc. The AMA and AHA have a lot of pull. Show me a Dr or medical anything that openly endorses vaping and I'll show you a Dr or medical anything that can't get insured.
That article has a lot about Jule, who makes their own juice, and the most users. Most versed vapers don't like jule for what they've done to the vaping industry - in the interest of greed.
Find someone that has been vaping for years, even go back to the beginning of vaping (<2007ish), and find me someone that has, other than nic sick or allergies, gotten sick or died from vaping. Leave out the black market pods that had the vitamin E acetate in it that did cause illness and death, because you can't vape oil. Then let me know what you come up with.
I'm sure none of this will matter. Nothing wrong with Brave, I've heard good things. But there will never ever be anything as good as experience, for anything.
Again, if you smoke, your attempt at vaping, no negativity intended, is like barking up the wrong tree. If you don't smoke, don't vape.
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Vaping for years? How long do you have to vape to be good at it. And as for experience, there were some people who had experience and had problems from it that was written about extensively. It was a type of lung damage that they referred to as "popcorn lung."
You also brought up things such as "could be, might have potentially." If you doubt the accuracy of anything, do a web search on that particular point and find out for yourself. Along with that, if you have Brave browser, pose your question directly to its AI. It will give you every answer it has. As well as make suggestions as to where to look for those answers.
You also brought up things such as "could be, might have potentially." If you doubt the accuracy of anything, do a web search on that particular point and find out for yourself. Along with that, if you have Brave browser, pose your question directly to its AI. It will give you every answer it has. As well as make suggestions as to where to look for those answers.
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Starting to sound very ANTZ like to me.
Here's a simple Duck Duck Go search "uk and vaping" here's the first link: https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/
Just so you know @disobey the NHS is the UK's equivalent to the US's FDA.
Here's a simple Duck Duck Go search "uk and vaping" here's the first link: https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/vaping-myths-and-the-facts/
Just so you know @disobey the NHS is the UK's equivalent to the US's FDA.
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Additives were put in THC juice that caused harm to people, just as additives were used to cut acid people used. Using only one browser to obtain your I formation is akin to only hearing one side of the story in a court case or political battle. You cannot make a proper, rational decision because you cannot obtain all the known facts.I don't think that the lung damage that was reported was caused by THC. Because at the time, it was illegal. Why would anybody put something illegal into their vape juice. Also, people have been smoking weed for a long time. I have never heard of weed causing lung damage. Despite its having THC in it. Though I have heard of some governments spraying herbicide on marijuana fields to kill them. And sometimes those growing the weed would harvest it and sell it anyway. Which definitely did cause problems.
Also, as you may guess, I did an AI search about the problem through Brave browser. The main chemical listed as potentially causing lung damage was Proplyene glycol. (I wish I had known that before) It says that when it is heated it can produce harmful byproducts such as formaldehyde and acrolein. Besides those two, though not connected to PG are chemicals such as diacetyl, vitamine E, acetate, acetaldehyde. For more information on the matter, this website may interest you.
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urmc.rochester.edu › news › story › chemicals-in-vaping-flavors-cause-widespread-damage-to-lung-tissue
Chemicals in Vaping Flavors Cause Widespread Damage to Lung Tissue | URMC Newsroom
All browsers are pretty much the same. They all list the same websites. Though there is one browser that I know of that will post websites that are more on the forbidden side as well as the usual ones. That is Yandex browser. Next, I know facts that you probably couldn't handle. MANY of them.
Too bad. I had hoped for some truthful discussion from you. I guess I can kiss that idea good bye. Popcorn lung is a real thing. It is also known as bronchiolitis obliterans.
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The only person to get "popcorn lung" was the guy that opened the big bags of artificial butter flavor that went into vats at a popcorn factory. That chemical was identified and not used in vape juice early on.
From what I read about you, I think you should give up vaping, too dangerous for you.
From what I read about you, I think you should give up vaping, too dangerous for you.
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Vaping myths and the facts - Better Health
There are lots of misconceptions about e-cigarettes and vaping. Here are some of the most common myths, and the facts based on scientific evidence and data.
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"Vaping Myths and the Facts" from the NHS, UKs version of FDA. It seems you conveniently didn't read that @disobey since that article kills all the myths you're trying to push.
Vaping myths and the facts - Better Health
There are lots of misconceptions about e-cigarettes and vaping. Here are some of the most common myths, and the facts based on scientific evidence and data.
"Vaping Myths and the Facts" from the NHS, UKs version of FDA. It seems you conveniently didn't read that @disobey since that article kills all the myths you're trying to push.
Speaking for the FDA, if they had their way about it, everybody would quit smoking. With your NHS apparently being the same thing, they would be the last people I would go to for myths and facts. No doubt they would try their best to make any kind of smoking sound as scary as possible.
Interesting. They have trolls even here. As I said, I looked it up myself. "Popcorn lung" is a real thing.
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E-cigarettes: an evidence update
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E-cigarettes: an evidence update
An expert review of the latest evidence concludes that e-cigarettes are around 95% safer than smoked tobacco and they can help smokers to quit.
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You know jack shit about vaping. Why are you here? Because your not hear to learn about it.
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Rarely do I get to say this to a moderator. Fuck off. Feel free to ban me, asshole. It's not like I would be missing out on anything.
Typical troll. Come here, talk shit to everyone who responds to your crap. Act like an uber bigshot. What college do you currently attend? Tell me more about the professor that urged you to come to a site like this, and behave like you are. Go ahead. I'm curious.
It seems that no matter where we go, we have those self appointed social justice warriors stirring the pot. They are usually in school, whether it be high school or college. They are the types that want to ban the internal combustion engine and turn everybody vegan. Of course, they want to end vaping too. So they come here, and troll the site.Clown college?
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Who did I talk shit to. Besides vape fan. It said that I didn't know jack shit about vaping. I used to have a vape pen, until it broke. Though I might not know everything about vaping, my interest in it is legitimate. You also say I act like an uber big shot. Whatever gave you that impression. But as it turns out, intellectually, I am. For years I have been going to various forums. Over the years I have had discussions with hundreds, possibly thousands of people. For the topics that I think are important, I can't be defeated in debate. Though I'm not always completely right on every point I've made. I'm only completely right about 98% of the time. Which I think is pretty good.
If one existed, I could join a forum that was mostly made up of Nobel Laureates. They couldn't defeat me in debate either. Though if they are as smart as they're supposed to be, they wouldn't try. How did I achieve such a high degree of intellect? It started out with my dropping out of high school in my third year with three years of credits to make up for.
If you ever want to expand your interests beyond vaping and find out the truth about things, just let me know. I can suggest a forum for you to join that you can discuss important matters with me. But you won't. Nobody I have ever made the same offer to has. Like them, you most likely prefer living in a fantasy world. Where you are content to let others do your thinking for you even though they don't have your best interests in mind. And you would most likely fight to keep it that way. For you and everybody at this forum like you, enjoy your ignorance.
My advice for whatever it's worth to you:
If you want to quit smoking and vape. Get a Vaporesso XROS 4 pod and a pack of .8 ohm pods.
For eliquid try a 25mg nic salt and a 12mg freebase and vape your preference. No more than 50% PG. Puff it just like a cigarette.
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If you want to quit smoking and vape. Get a Vaporesso XROS 4 pod and a pack of .8 ohm pods.
For eliquid try a 25mg nic salt and a 12mg freebase and vape your preference. No more than 50% PG. Puff it just like a cigarette.
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If that's how you feel they why the hell are you even here?
Dude, I think it's time to exit mommy's basement, and get some professional help. First, you have to admit you have a problem. You are not better than everybody else. You have delusions of grandeur. We realize you may not recognize that, having not had much experience with the real world. Take the blue pill. Open your mind. Free yourself from your delusions. You are not God.
Life isn't about bliss. It is a fight for survival. Also, around the year 2050 when most of life on Earth is extinct due to a human caused global warming feedback loop, tell your fellow ghosts how blissful ignorance is.
My advice for whatever it's worth to you:
If you want to quit smoking and vape. Get a Vaporesso XROS 4 pod and a pack of .8 ohm pods.
For eliquid try a 25mg nic salt and a 12mg freebase and vape your preference. No more than 50% PG. Puff it just like a cigarette.
XROS 4 Flavor Blast That Lasts | VAPORESSO
XROS 4 showcases COREX 2.0 technology and feature a 0.4Ω pod. The upgraded COREX tech provides a more intense flavor and a longer pod lifespan. The Pulse mode offers powerful output support.
Any sound advice, such as yours, is worth quite a lot. Though as I found out with my last vape pen, I think it is best to go with something refillable and rechargeable. I was also considering nic salt vape juice at around 30mg nic salt. Though I was thinking of going with something around 50mg nic salt. Which I think is the strongest you can get. And if it seems to be a little too strong, I can cut it down with some leftover 18mg freebase vape juice that I have. Though I have never looked into it, I don't think there would be anything wrong with mixing nic salts with freebase.
In post #35, vape fan made a number of false claims. I'm not about to let some troll chase me off.
Does being stupid make you happy? I never said that I was a god. Neither do I have delusions of grandeur. I offered for you to find out for yourself. But surprise surprise. You weren't interested. Also you can take your "blue pill" and stick it up your ass. Taking the "Red Pill" is best.
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She's forgotten more that you know about vaping.
Plus, you get advise for a refillable rechargeable pod, not a disposable pen, and say no because you want it refillable and rechargeable? You've got a looonnnggg row to hoe. I don't think you can hack it. You trip over your own feet.
Holey shit. No wonder you use AI for everything. Without it your stupid and know
JACK SHIT LOL. And them when you do use it the world is going to end in 36yrs. That's what some said about 40+ yrs ago.