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Vaping makes me cough.
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She's forgotten more that you know about vaping.
Plus, you get advise for a refillable rechargeable pod, not a disposable pen, and say no because you want it refillable and rechargeable? You've got a looonnnggg row to hoe. I don't think you can hack it. You trip over your own feet.
Holey shit. No wonder you use AI for everything. Without it your stupid and know
JACK SHIT LOL. And them when you do use it the world is going to end in 36yrs. That's what some said about 40+ yrs ago.
You are too stupid to even bother talking to.
You are too stupid to even bother talking to as well.
Aww... did I hurt the feelings of the in-cel? Too bad. My generation couldn't care less.
An update. I said that the vape juice I got was all PG and nicotine. Which is what was what I asked for and what I expected. I just recently checked the small bottle it came in. It turns out that it is 40% VG and 60% PG. So it isn't because the vape juice I got being only PG being the reason why taking a drag makes me cough a little. You know, it is strange. They say (for how new vaping relatively is) that vaping is a lot safer than smoking cigarettes. But cigarettes don't make me want to cough at all when I take a drag. So can vaping really be all that safe as compared to cigarettes?
He started a new thread, about vaping, but no trolls. I think he wants the entire forum to himself.
Well, no insults. That's refreshing. There could very well be something wrong with my vape juice. I used the same vape juice in my new vape pod as I used in my old vape pen. Both of which make me cough. When I get the chance, I'll buy some nic salts vape juice. According to the *********** that you all seem to scoff at, it says that nic salts smokes smoother than freebase vape juice does.
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Someone on here already said something about it isn't smoke.
Please, would you stop calling it smoke, it is vapor. I am asking you kindly; we are on a Vaping site, not a smoking site.
Thank you. 2WW
Yeah I saw and responded I just wonder how he is going to feel after he learns that the troll of trolls just in fact answered without trolling him.
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Never been any insults, just facts.
Could be.
Could be the Ω
Could be the amount of wattage.
Could be airflow.
Could be the way you vape it (mechanics)
Could be your not holding your mouth right.
Could be lot of things.
Want to get down to the thing(s) it actually is?? Because we can't do it by someone taking a bit of info from a member, typing a question about it into a browser, then reporting back to us what the browser said.
We don't need no stinking browser
Know what movie that's from?Do you know the vaping terms MTL and DTL, and what those mean? Which are you?
Your title is more of a statement, VAPING MAKES ME COUGH. ......Oh, ..........ok.
Do you mean: Why do I cough when I vape?
That's because he is smoking the dang thing. Ain't supposed to light it, don't ya know....Never been any insults, just facts.
Could be.
Could be the Ω
Could be the amount of wattage.
Could be airflow.
Could be the way you vape it (mechanics)
Could be your not holding your mouth right.
Could be lot of things.
Want to get down to the thing(s) it actually is?? Because we can't do it by someone taking a bit of info from a member, typing a question about it into a browser, then reporting back to us what the browser said.
We don't need no stinking browser
Do you know the vaping terms MTL and DTL, and what those mean? Which are you?
Your title is more of a statement, VAPING MAKES ME COUGH. ......Oh, ..........ok.
Do you mean: Why do I cough when I vape?
i've accidently lit up a cig-alike once.
however there was vast amounts of Booker's Bourbon involved with that incident...Nuff Said!
Oh boy... here we go again. This person blows my mind and has managed to get everything wrong, not just about vaping but seems to have a lot to learn about life and how to deal with people.
When I first saw this thread, I was going to offer some advice (but was busy at the time) Now that I read through all this crap, I'm going to pass. Can't believe I wasted my time reading it all.
Never call someone stupid... unless you are looking in the mirror.
When I first saw this thread, I was going to offer some advice (but was busy at the time) Now that I read through all this crap, I'm going to pass. Can't believe I wasted my time reading it all.
I think I figured this out... the OP is an AI
Since you are so good at searching, you my try searching discussions here on VU... all of these things you mention have been extensively discussed already.
From your posts (on this thread), I would say you were wrong 98% of the time.
Since you are so good at searching, you my try searching discussions here on VU... all of these things you mention have been extensively discussed already.
If people are being insulting, I will call them stupid. (I could call the far worse) And chances are you are stupid as well. You may know more about vaping than I do. But there is far more to life than vaping. On the topics that I think are important, you couldn't defeat me in debate if your life depended on it. Though I would love for you to give it a try. There is a forum out there where free thought is allowed. At least to a greater degree than about anyplace else I have found. I have threads already created there and just waiting for debate. Just send me a PM and I'll tell you what that forum is. (If I can do so without getting banned) But we both know that you won't go there and debate me. Why? BECAUSE YOU'RE STUPID! Just like the vast majority of other people are. You would also need some courage to do so. Which you are probably also lacking in. This person explained why.
yep i'm out
So now the OP has started another thread (basically the same as this one) Any bets on how long it takes before he calls someone stupid? It didn't take long for him to add me to his (or her) stupid list. Also, this person doesn't seem to have a clue how bad smoking is.
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He has 3 threads going. All basically the same thing. I'm just gonna sit back with some
what the op actually needed I.M.H.O. is going to be like an Eleaf iStick 40 kit and a big bottle of e-liquid (AT LEAST A 100 ML BOTTLE ) of whatever flavor he really loves in about 12mg strength. nothing more...period!
NUFF FUCKIN' SAID!
NUFF FUCKIN' SAID!
Nah. He'd piss and moan about that as well. Maybe a bottle of Fuqitol. If that ain't good enough, he might try for a prescription of lithium.
Id say he needs 2mg of Haldol 3 times a day. Lmao
I checked out your Eleaf iStick 40 "kit." It has a wattage that goes from 1 to 40w. I already have a vape pod with an adjustable wattage. You could be right about the 12mg of nicotine. Maybe the next time I stop by a smoke shop I'll pick up some nic salts vape juice in that strength. What's the worst that can happen.
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Are you going to put nic salts in an RTA or RDA? No wonder you cough if that's what you are doing. Nic salts are only to be used in select devices.
yeah but the 1 you have currently is for (DTL) vaping and whatever you do please do not use nic-salts in that device. because using nic-salts in that would probably lead to a hospital visit.
face it bubba you're gonna need the right device and the right e-liquid. if you ever are going to be successful in starting your vape journey and quit those stinky cigarettes.
if you are not going to take the advice of somebody that has been vaping for at least 9 yrs then honestly why the hell are you here?
so far multiple people have told you that everything you bought is wrong for a beginning vaper. please either heed our advice or stop bitching that it doesn't work.
vaping works i know it does from a personal point i know it has also worked for everybody and anybody who gave it a real shot.
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When people start vaping they think they should inhale the exact same way on the vape as they did their cigarettes.
You can't do it that way. Vapor is lighter than smoke.
I've been vaping for over 12 years and to this day I'll cough if I try to hit my vape like a drag off of a cigarette.
I don't know any other way of explaining it.... You hit the vape kind of like how you would hit a joint.
The inhale is the most important aspect when it comes to coughing (or not coughing) when switching to vaping.
Back to the trolling I see. Just piss right off already.
Yes, I came here to get some advice on vaping. As you know, I have went round and round with various people around here on the matter. This is the very first time that anybody has brought up what you did. How interesting. So I decided to do a little internet searching on the matter. When it comes to MTL vs DTL, it just makes no sense. Nothing is going to go directly to your lungs without it having to go through your mouth first. Though having done some reading about it, I have tried to hold the smoke for a moment in my mouth before inhaling as it was said to give you a milder hit. It doesn't make much difference.
In reading further something else came up that I have never heard mentioned before here either. Which is at how many ohm's your vape device operates at. I have been going by how many watts the devices operate at. They also mentioned using a vape device that operates at 1 ohm or less. As I said, I got the Uwell Crown X pod system. This is where things get strange. It apparently come with an installed .3 ohm coil with a power range of 5 W to 60 W. It also came with a spare coil rated at .6 ohm's and a power range from 5 W to 25 W. Why in the hell would they give you different coils like that. Also, I'm far from an expert when it comes to electricity. But I'm pretty sure that the lower the ohm's, the more current it is allowing to pass through. So 60 W at .3 ohm's vs 25 W at .6 ohms doesn't make much sense either.
I also read some other things where they recommended using vape juice at 3mg of nicotine. I don't remember right off hand if they were talking about freebase or nic salts. Following your recommendation, I got some nic salts vape juice at a lower nicotine level. I couldn't find any that was 12mg of nicotine. So I went with something that was 18mg of nicotine. Now from what you said, do you think I should have went with freebase instead? Also, I looked up what it had to say about the vape pod system I have. Apparently using nic salts in it is just fine. Maybe even recommended. Are you saying they are wrong about their own product in that regard?
In the vape pod that I have, you can adjust the airflow. I have tried it at both minimum and maximum air flow. It doesn't seem to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. Also, I have to think of those who invented vaping to begin with. And all those who created similar devices since then. Wouldn't they have known that people would tend to want to take a hit off a vape pod the same way as they take a hit off a cigarette? And build their devices to replicate that as closely as possible? Instead, we have all these different recommendations at how to properly take a drag from a vape device. It's a big mess.
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I asked a while back. Are you MTL or DTL.
2 diff vaping styles, 2 different types of coils. 2 different types of devices - for the most part.
I think instead of trying to learn and understand vaping to it's core, heed advice and learn as you go.
The first is learn what you can by using the advice given, to be successful at using the device.
Device = all hardware needed to vape.
I think most stop smoking by first using a MTL device, and those don't have the correct airflow for DTL. You can't just close the airflow on one, or open it more on the other. Reason being their physical design.
Can't put a .3Ω coil in a MTL device and lower the wattage and expect it to vape correctly. The airflow design determines the vaping style, not the coil.
Just toss the manufacturer's recommendations on their coils, they are wrong.
For MTL, Nautilus Tank and a mod that will do at least 40W in case you change or want to sometimes vape DTL, you don't have to by 2 mods. For Nautilus use Aspire's 1.8Ω coils. This is a MTL set up. Puff the vapor into your mouth first, then inhale it...like you do with cig. Use 12 - 15mg nic freebase juice. Check out Nautilus GT. First try 10W with that 1.8 coil and adjust wattage and airflow to liking. (not manuf'r recomed's) No matter the adjustment, it will still be MTL.
For DTL, again buy mod and Tank separately so you can customize it for best personal performance and flavor. Ask for advice for what tank. Don't listen to paid written/other media product reviews or articles. Use a .5 or .6Ω coil so you have a wider workability on wattage. This one you vape like you were hitting a doobie. Just put your lips on it and inhale, slowly. Start with 6mg freebase nic. DTL requires less nic content.
Whether MTL or DTL, at first the power needs to be lowww. So you can vape tiny amounts w/o coughing. If you cough, lower the wattage or pull less vaper, or both. At first, you don't have to see vapor on the exhale, just feel it on the inhale.The goal is no coughing, not cloud production...and don't worry, your getting vapor. At first you'll still smoke because you can't get enough nic to satisfy because you can't vape enough w/o coughing. When reaching for a cig, always vape as many times as possible first. Every day or so you'll be able to make the device produce more and more vapor, until you get the nic craving satisfied w/o smoking.
If down the road you see that you want very low power and not as much vapor as either of the aforementioned device types, you will know what nic level you want, be able to translate that into what salts level, and can do that if you want. In the mean time, I'd say not the nic salt right now.
For intent and purpose, under 1.0Ω marks DTL territory, over 1.0 = MTL.
The End.
2 diff vaping styles, 2 different types of coils. 2 different types of devices - for the most part.
I think instead of trying to learn and understand vaping to it's core, heed advice and learn as you go.
The first is learn what you can by using the advice given, to be successful at using the device.
Device = all hardware needed to vape.
I think most stop smoking by first using a MTL device, and those don't have the correct airflow for DTL. You can't just close the airflow on one, or open it more on the other. Reason being their physical design.
Can't put a .3Ω coil in a MTL device and lower the wattage and expect it to vape correctly. The airflow design determines the vaping style, not the coil.
Just toss the manufacturer's recommendations on their coils, they are wrong.
For MTL, Nautilus Tank and a mod that will do at least 40W in case you change or want to sometimes vape DTL, you don't have to by 2 mods. For Nautilus use Aspire's 1.8Ω coils. This is a MTL set up. Puff the vapor into your mouth first, then inhale it...like you do with cig. Use 12 - 15mg nic freebase juice. Check out Nautilus GT. First try 10W with that 1.8 coil and adjust wattage and airflow to liking. (not manuf'r recomed's) No matter the adjustment, it will still be MTL.
For DTL, again buy mod and Tank separately so you can customize it for best personal performance and flavor. Ask for advice for what tank. Don't listen to paid written/other media product reviews or articles. Use a .5 or .6Ω coil so you have a wider workability on wattage. This one you vape like you were hitting a doobie. Just put your lips on it and inhale, slowly. Start with 6mg freebase nic. DTL requires less nic content.
Whether MTL or DTL, at first the power needs to be lowww. So you can vape tiny amounts w/o coughing. If you cough, lower the wattage or pull less vaper, or both. At first, you don't have to see vapor on the exhale, just feel it on the inhale.The goal is no coughing, not cloud production...and don't worry, your getting vapor. At first you'll still smoke because you can't get enough nic to satisfy because you can't vape enough w/o coughing. When reaching for a cig, always vape as many times as possible first. Every day or so you'll be able to make the device produce more and more vapor, until you get the nic craving satisfied w/o smoking.
If down the road you see that you want very low power and not as much vapor as either of the aforementioned device types, you will know what nic level you want, be able to translate that into what salts level, and can do that if you want. In the mean time, I'd say not the nic salt right now.
For intent and purpose, under 1.0Ω marks DTL territory, over 1.0 = MTL.
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The airflow has little to do with the way you personally inhale the vapor.
The airflow greatly helps while your trying to find the best method.
You can:
inhale lightly, with small puffs, inhale deeply with small puffs, inhale lightly with mid sized puffs, inhale deeply with mid sized puffs, inhale lightly with larger puffs or inhale deeply with large puffs.
I'd try all of the above methods with the airflow half off, almost off, and almost open.
One of those won't make you cough.
You'll know it when you find it.
If the idiot wants to vape nic salts, and refuse any all all advice, idiot should stick with disposables. If idiot coughs when using disposables, idiot should not vape.
because you are probably still vaping at way too high of a wattage and using too high of a nicotine.
1 is for restricted dtl the other is for full dtl neither of those coils would be good at mtl.
probably freebase as nic-salts are quite high in nic.
yes and here is why.
nic-salts = high nicotine made to be vaped at very low wattage on high ohm coils. honestly just foget about nic-salts altogether for now just stick with (*e-liquid*) no higher than 12mg.
*freebase*
also as @5150sick recommended take hits like you would a joint a quick hit followed by a long slow inhale.
you might want to check out some older pbusardo and VapinGreek videos on youtube. watch how they vape.
oh and just a heads up it'll take you a bit to get adjusted to inhaling vapor even when doing it correctly. your body has to become used to smoking especially your lungs. just give it time. if you notice yourself coughing when you aren't actively vaping don't worry it is normal as your lungs get healthier they will start purging all the crud.
anyhow good luck.
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Honestly, I doubt disobey will really accept any of the advice offered. Stubbornness abounds in that one. I just hope he doesn't get found some day with a vaping device and the wrong fluid, by a grieving family with a grudge against vaping.
who knows.
i just am going to hope for the best here.
i also could have sworn i tossed a link up for the device i recommended.
i'll just add it in at the bottom along with a video as well.
vapesourcing.com
luckily there is an option to add some e-juice as well down near the bottom of the page.
video is age restricted so you will have to choose to watch it on YouTube.
and there you have it.
i just am going to hope for the best here.
i also could have sworn i tossed a link up for the device i recommended.
i'll just add it in at the bottom along with a video as well.
Eleaf iStick i40 Vape Kit With GTL D20 Tank | Vapesourcing
Eleaf iStick i40 Vape Kit features a 2600mAh internal battery, max 40W output, 3ml GTL D20 tank, and is compatible with GTL coil series.
and there you have it.
If you mentioned MTL vs DTL in the past, I don't remember it. Also, from the various websites I've been to, they say that nic salts is the best way to go for a smooth vaping experience. It also delivers more nicotine. Which according to a kind of search that I won't mention again, is the ingredient in vape juice that makes you cough.
Right or wrong, I decided to go with the system I have. Which is the Uwell Crown X pod.. I also decided to go with the 18mg nic salts. Perhaps unfortunately, I threw away my 18mg freebase vape juice and went with the 18mg nic salts vape juice. Neither do I have the money to be trying out different systems and different kinds of vape juice. So I am pretty much stuck with what I have. I will have to make that work as best I can and deal with the results. My vape pod came with a .3 ohm coil installed and a spare .6 ohm coil. The only thing I can do is switch to the .6 ohm coil and use it at a lower wattage. Given our differences in the past, I am kind of leery about even asking you this. But given what I have, what wattage and coil do you think I should use to get the best results.
You suck.
because you are probably still vaping at way too high of a wattage and using too high of a nicotine.
1 is for restricted dtl the other is for full dtl neither of those coils would be good at mtl.
probably freebase as nic-salts are quite high in nic.
yes and here is why.
nic-salts = high nicotine made to be vaped at very low wattage on high ohm coils. honestly just foget about nic-salts altogether for now just stick with (*e-liquid*) no higher than 12mg.
*freebase*
also as @5150sick recommended take hits like you would a joint a quick hit followed by a long slow inhale.
you might want to check out some older pbusardo and VapinGreek videos on youtube. watch how they vape.
oh and just a heads up it'll take you a bit to get adjusted to inhaling vapor even when doing it correctly. your body has to become used to smoking especially your lungs. just give it time. if you notice yourself coughing when you aren't actively vaping don't worry it is normal as your lungs get healthier they will start purging all the crud.
anyhow good luck.
Thanks for the advice. But for now, I'm stuck with the system and vape juice I have. I can either use a .3 ohm coil or a .6 ohm coil. I can also set the wattage to whatever I want. When you can adjust your wattage, it doesn't seem to me to make a whole hell of a lot of difference how many ohms your coil is rated at. I also have 18mg nic salts vape juice. Until I can afford to splurge on some different freebase vape juice, I am stuck with what I have. Also, I don't vape to try to kick the cigarette habit. I just vape when my brother gives me a ride to do some shopping. Because he doesn't like me smoking in his car. I did quit smoking for a couple of years. But unfortunate circumstances caused me to start smoking again. No doubt if I ever did try to quit smoking again, vaping would make the experience a lot less stressful.
who knows.
i just am going to hope for the best here.
i also could have sworn i tossed a link up for the device i recommended.
i'll just add it in at the bottom along with a video as well.
luckily there is an option to add some e-juice as well down near the bottom of the page.Eleaf iStick i40 Vape Kit With GTL D20 Tank | Vapesourcing
Eleaf iStick i40 Vape Kit features a 2600mAh internal battery, max 40W output, 3ml GTL D20 tank, and is compatible with GTL coil series.
video is age restricted so you will have to choose to watch it on YouTube.
and there you have it.
I looked at the Eleaf kit website again. It doesn't mention what kind of vape juice you should use. Nic salts or freebase. Also, 3mg of nicotine seems a little low for me. Another point is that they should have a similar system-kit out there that costs less. I don't want or expect you to do any searching for me. But do you know off hand of a less costly device that does the same thing?
it's for freebase what most vapers simply refer to as e-liquid/e-juice,
i seem to recall recommending 12mg not 3mg.
most starter kits are going to be somewhere between $35-$50.
see my last answer in my post above.
PS: please note this was all supposed to have been 1 thread.
so now i gotta ask...ok who broke the forums?
It seems to have worked well for you.
You did recommend 12mg. But all I could find in nic salts close to that was 18mg.
If you don't give a fuck, why are you replying at all. Doing a little trolling in your spare time?