Vapor Shark rDNA 40 problem......as in it broke.

[VoodooSan]

I am new to vaping. My first mod was a ProVari P3 with a Nautilus tank. Absolutely love the P3. Its simple and easy to use and has been great for a noob like me. So hanging out in the local vape shop after I got my P3 I started looking at the Vapor Shark. I heard there were issues when the rDNA 40 was released regarding shipping, some screen acting weird, and some tanks not working that great. But lately I have seen a lot of positive reviews and comments.

So while grabbing some juice today I decided to get the Vapor Shark rDNA 40 with a Kanger mini tank. Got it set up in the store and walked out all warm and happy. I used it off and on while driving home for no more than 30 minutes and then went to fire it and...nothing. It wouldnt fire, the screen would not come on, nada. I thought it was locked, or in stealth mode or something. Nope. The only thing that worked was the charging light when it was plugged in. I replaced the battery and even tried to put in backwards to get an alarm. Nothing. It wasnt the tank either.

I called Vapor Shark about it and told them about the problem. They were clueless as to why it was doing that. They said I would have to send an email with the issue then I could send it in and have it fixed. Ok well not really much else they can do I guess.

I went back to DragonFly where I bought it (and they are an authorized reseller) and they just replaced it with a new one after looking at it. They are great folks there and have awesome customer service. Its really weird that it was working and just quit after 30 minutes of sporadic use. The replacement seems to be working as it should but its only had a few hours of use. So hopefully this will keep working and I wont have any issues. Maybe I just a got a lemon.

Has anyone seen this issue before?

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I have several vaporsharks.. . I've had 2 of the lot that had the foul screen; but, I have not had the issue you were having.
It was probably something dumb, like a battery lead from the sled breaking loose or some there easily fixable booboo.
Glad you got a working unit an the shop made it right!
Just learn your way in and around the menu system, its much easier than the p3, also you may want to look into a sharkskin, if you don't have one yet. The finish can wear rather easily on them. The little magnetic door is also a tad on the easy side to pop off if dropped. Both of those become non-issues with the skin though

 

[VoodooSan]

I have several vaporsharks.. 2dna30's, 2dna40s and 4 rdna40s. I've had 2 of the lot that had the foul screen; but, I have not had the issue you were having.
It was probably something dumb, like a battery lead from the sled breaking loose or some there easily fixable booboo.
Glad you got a working unit an the shop made it right!
Just learn your way in and around the menu system, its much easier than the p3, also you may want to look into a sharkskin, if you don't have one yet. The finish can wear rather easily on them. The little magnetic door is also a tad on the easy side to pop off if dropped. Both of those become non-issues with the skin though

Actually I did get a sharkskin for it when i bought it. Yeah I heard the finish isnt all that durable. And yes the menu is pretty easy. I have it set to 425 F at 30 watts. The Kanger mini has the temp sensing coils or whatever they are in it it. Seems to be running fine so far. Hopefully I just got a defective unit and now I will be good to go. But its really nice. And between my P3 and the Vapor Shark I dont feel like I got two of the same thing.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

They are worlds apart.. I mean the only way to compare them is price and both have a clean output signal. But that DNA is literally twice the power and half the size. haha
I'm not a huge fan of provape . not knocking them( I own 2 of them), they would survive a nuclear explosion, they just dont suit my vaping style anymore. But again they are damn nice if they fit your needs,
All I use now are dna40 devices and yihi board devices,
I will say though with that DNA that you've got, if you wanted to invest in say an Atlantis with their TC coils I have mine set at 40w and 500 degrees... and I only use my RTAs when I want a dual coil tank.

Another nice one on there also if you get into rebuilding drippers that DNA mod is perfect for a good single coil dripper. Its really a great, compact, all purpose mod.
Congrats!

 

[VoodooSan]

They are worlds apart.. I mean the only way to compare them is price and both have a clean output signal. But that DNA is literally twice the power and half the size. haha
I'm not a huge fan of provape . not knocking them( I own 2 of them), they would survive a nuclear explosion, they just dont suit my vaping style anymore. But again they are damn nice if they fit your needs,
All I use now are dna40 devices and yihi board devices,
I will say though with that DNA that you've got, if you wanted to invest in say an Atlantis with their TC coils I have mine set at 40w and 500 degrees... and I only use my RTAs when I want a dual coil tank.

Another nice one on there also if you get into rebuilding drippers that DNA mod is perfect for a good single coil dripper. Its really a great, compact, all purpose mod.
Congrats!

Thanks! And yes they are different. They both arent cheap thats for sure. I am still learning but its a lot of fun and really enjoyable.

 

[Pyro]

I bought my wife a second VaporShark in Oct. 2014 which happened to be the rDNA40 on pre-order. In April it did exactly the same problem as yours, tried a Kayfun4 clone and upon trying to fire the atty the screen stayed dark. Worked with VaporShark customer service and since it was out of warranty, I paid the $25 for the diagnostic fee and sent it in for repair. Quick turnaround and with a new board and some other electronic piece it's doing fine according to my wife. Her original DNA30 is still going strong too.

 

[raqball]

My rDNA 40 had the screen scrambling issue. I contacted VS and they sent me a prepaid label to ship it back to them. Turn around time was about a week, They replaced the DNA chip and it's been working great since then.

Awesome customer service at VS!

Hope your replacement continues to work trouble free!

 

[UncleRJ]

The thing about electronics is that when you get a new device, if it is going to fail, it will normally fail fairly soon after you start using it.

If it last 30 days of use without a malfunction, it will normally last a good long while unless you break the sucker!

 

[Slurp812]

Infant mortality.

 

[VoodooSan]

well so far so good. It seems to be working good still but its only day two. But yeah no problems so hope it continues!

 

[madmonkey]

I have 2 vaporsharks as well and they are my most heavily used mods...they've replaced my Provari 2.5's as my ADV's...don't get me wrong, I love my Provaris, but like @f1r3b1rd ....they just don't suite my current vaping needs. I still use one with my Nautilus but that's about it. My DNA 30 I have had to send in twice for service and repair...it did the same thing as yours...it was a bad solder job and the wires gave out and the second time was for a bad battery and again for wiring...both times were under warranty and was taken care of for free...they have excellent customer service...

My rDNA is one of the first gen ones from the end of 2014 and instead of screen problems I have Temp sensing issues...I always have it switched off because sometimes it will try and temp limit a Kanthal coil for several drags before it realizes it's being insane and I have to heat up a coil, take it off, screw it back on, and tell it that it's a new coil for the temp limiting to work correctly which is the exact opposite of how it's supposed to work...if I don't then the limiter kicks in too fast and I get a horrible vape...but if I get it to sense a warm coil as "new" and "cool" even though it's not it's a wonderful vape. I could have sent it in but sense I only use the nickel coils at home and use regular Kanthal coils during the day I am more than happy with it.

Overall they're great little units and if you work a job like me that requires you to carry a lot of random crap in your pockets like Knifes and pens and tape and what not where that space is a premium the Vaporsharks take up minimal room with maximum performance. I still love my DNA 30 one and it's battery is big enough to last me all day...I am waiting for the price on the DNA 40 version of the little one to go down so I can add it to my collection as well.

You've got the best of both worlds device wise and they should both serve you well and last you a long time. Most people don't ever need above 40 watts and the DNA chips, unlike the Yihi boards, are incredibly accurate. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do and happy vaping

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Most people don't ever need above 40 watts and the DNA chips, unlike the Yihi boards, are incredibly accurate.

Ummmm..... Where did you get this information?

 

[madmonkey]

Ummmm..... Where did you get this information?

I've ran all three of my DNA devices against two ohms reader's as well as my provaris and my DNA 40 is off once in awhile but the difference is like .08 ohms. They run pretty dead nuts accurate, at least mine do...everyone else seems to think personal experience counts as fact so why shouldn't mine?

I saw a Suck My Mod video on the Sig 150 and it being inaccurate and they linked the website showing the testing so I screwed my inline volt meter in to mine and it was as much as .4 volts lower than it said it was putting out, thats a difference of 10 watts. I might not have the fancy testing equipment but I checked several attys at several resistances set between 50-80 watts since my coils aren't built to really handle much higher.

I know the Sigelei is powered by a version of the Yihi SX-330 chip and mine is not isolated as there are at least two other units with the same problem I've seen documented online...here is a link to the website of the test results the guy posted up. You can find the sig 150 video on the suck my mod youtube and in another thread I started to see if anyone else was having this problem to see how isolated it really is....

http://imgur.com/a/OPSur

As for my statement that most people really don't need above 40 watts...again...the majority of vapers are ego style or cig-a-like with carto users or maybe getting more and more into stuff like I sticks and nautilus's but honestly, even just going down the street working I see cheaper clearos on ego's or isticks or mvps....cloud chasing and high wattage is the minority of the vape community...as sub ohm tanks flood the market yes more and more people are getting into higher wattages but it's still the minority of the vape community. I could survey any city in the country and I am willing to bet that dollars to doughnuts that my thinking is fairly accurate

 

[f1r3b1rd]

yihi makes several different chipsets as a company. The one in the sigelei are made specifically for sigelei and P4u. From what I've read about it the inaccuracy it is only in builds bellow a 0.4 and only when fired above the 70w range . In the same wattage comparison with evolv the are both just as accurate- in other words we can't tell if evolves accurate or not that high, for obvious reasons, so it is a moot comparison. Maybe I'm different but considering there are not a lot of chipsets out there that fire that high. So when I am in that low a resistance and firing that high a power the consistency and reliability are much more valuable than being a tad off at 80w.
The sx130 chip is a certified disaster made for eleaf
Their flagship chip, the sx350 from all accounts I've read is just as accurate as evolve. I have not tested any of Mine, so I am only restating what I've read and seen in Busardo's oscope results.

 

[madmonkey]

yihi makes several different chipsets as a company. The one in the sigelei are made specifically for sigelei and P4u. From what I've read about it the inaccuracy it is only in builds bellow a 0.4 and only when fired above the 70w range . In the same wattage comparison with evolv the are both just as accurate- in other words we can't tell if evolves accurate or not that high, for obvious reasons, so it is a moot comparison. Maybe I'm different but considering there are not a lot of chipsets out there that fire that high. So when I am in that low a resistance and firing that high a power the consistency and reliability are much more valuable than being a tad off at 80w.
The sx130 chip is a certified disaster made for eleaf
Their flagship chip, the sx350 from all accounts I've read is just as accurate as evolve. I have not tested any of Mine, so I am only restating what I've read and seen in Busardo's oscope results.

I've read the same thing about the SX-350 and when I have the cash I would love to get my hands on one. A agree with your point about evolv and yihi being different and not a fair comparison but it still doesn't change the fact the my Sig doesn't fire as advertised....you have to build that low to get that high of wattage and if it's off it's off. Just for fairness I screwed a .22 ohm coil on both right now and fired the Sigelei at 40 watts....a load that both the DNA 40 and the Yihi chip can fire...it says it's firing at 3.3 volts and is really firing at 2.95 according to my meter...it's still .3 off where it's supposed to be more accurate.

So maybe I am different, or I just got a bad chip, but .3 volts off seems to be consistant across the wattage settings for me...and you're right, there isn't a lot of chips that fire that high and so if I am buying something that is supposed to fire a .2 coil up to 150 watts and it's only going up to 135 because it can't calibrate properly I am not getting what I paid for. That's all I am saying

 

[f1r3b1rd]

deleted to avoid sounding like I'm on ecf

 

[madmonkey]

deleted to avoid sounding like I'm on ecf

I got the email and I read your comment...I didn't think it sounded like ecf...and for the record, I am not trying to start a a mud slinging fight. I agree with out most of the time and follow your posts on a regular basis...I want to make that clear...I am just stating my results and others that have had results like mine so if someone else wonders they can see that they're not alone...I really like the SX-330 chip and I think it's a great chip, I am NOT bashing Yihi. I would love to get ahold of an SX-350 because they are the flagship chip and I have heard they're dead nuts on the money...like the variant. I just don't understand what the problem is with me showing the results of mine and other's tests and stating that this is the way my mod performs...I love my sig 150, I wouldn't give it up for an IPV or anything else. It's the only other regulated mod other than my DNA's that I've kept as I am mainly and old school mech user. You don't have to agree with anything i've said, but I am not trying to start a fight. Just stating the results I've gotten and sharing them.

Friends?

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I got the email and I read your comment...I didn't think it sounded like ecf...and for the record, I am not trying to start a a mud slinging fight. I agree with out most of the time and follow your posts on a regular basis...I want to make that clear...I am just stating my results and others that have had results like mine so if someone else wonders they can see that they're not alone...I really like the SX-330 chip and I think it's a great chip, I am NOT bashing Yihi. I would love to get ahold of an SX-350 because they are the flagship chip and I have heard they're dead nuts on the money...like the variant. I just don't understand what the problem is with me showing the results of mine and other's tests and stating that this is the way my mod performs...I love my sig 150, I wouldn't give it up for an IPV or anything else. It's the only other regulated mod other than my DNA's that I've kept as I am mainly and old school mech user. You don't have to agree with anything i've said, but I am not trying to start a fight. Just stating the results I've gotten and sharing them.

Friends?

Its not the you showing the results of yours at all. I've always had issues with any company -even ones I don't like- getting blanket statements.
The "DNA unlike yihi are extremely accurate"
Was the only thing I took issue with.
Kind of like, I can't stand provape, that's a personal thing because of how they treated me and a friend of mine. But I usually keep that one to myself unless specifically asked my opinion, then ill let loose. Lol
Im also an EE, which is why I had asked for your source, im a fan of numbers but how those numbers are taken matters-especially with a power management device.
I wasn't trying to start a fight either, I haven't been here long enough for that yet. Which is why I deleted the douchebaggery post. I'll own my fuckups, but I'll also remove them . Haha.

 

[madmonkey]

Its not the you showing the results of yours at all. I've always had issues with any company -even ones I don't like- getting blanket statements.
The "DNA unlike yihi are extremely accurate"
Was the only thing I took issue with.
Kind of like, I can't stand provape, that's a personal thing because of how they treated me and a friend of mine. But I usually keep that one to myself unless specifically asked my opinion, then ill let loose. Lol
Im also an EE, which is why I had asked for your source, im a fan of numbers but how those numbers are taken matters-especially with a power management device.
I wasn't trying to start a fight either, I haven't been here long enough for that yet. Which is why I deleted the douchebaggery post. I'll own my fuckups, but I'll also remove them . Haha.

Well, I am not an EE, and I always default to those that know more than me...I am here to learn as much as I try and help others learning....I love numbers as well, and I know my testing equipment is basic (basic digital multimeter, basic volt meter, etc...) so I don't do a lot of numbers posting....but as my equipment is basic if someone else uses basic equipment and gets simular results I figured I'd share so they'd know they're not alone. I don't like arguing with my fellow vapors here, I think it takes away from the point for me of helping one another. And I can understand your problems with Provape, I've had my issues with them as well but that was more of a personal nature and not so much specific to their devices so I stay away from that as well

I said my DNA's are accurate, I also said one is flawed, and I know it's flawed, and it doesn't always read right and has issues with the TC...it's never metered or fired my kayfun accurately once, even compared to my other DNA's...I've said that too...but with my drippers, as best as I can test and meter with my limited equipment its accurate so I said it was accurate. I have no problem with admitting I am wrong or being corrected, I would ask for the source as well like you did that's why I wanted to make clear I wasn't trying to be a douche' bag either because that is the farthest thing from my intention. I think we've read enough of eachother's posts to know that everything we say is with the best of intentions, at least I hope I come across that way and I want to apologize if it came off different.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Well, I am not an EE, and I always default to those that know more than me...I am here to learn as much as I try and help others learning....I love numbers as well, and I know my testing equipment is basic (basic digital multimeter, basic volt meter, etc...) so I don't do a lot of numbers posting....but as my equipment is basic if someone else uses basic equipment and gets simular results I figured I'd share so they'd know they're not alone. I don't like arguing with my fellow vapors here, I think it takes away from the point for me of helping one another. And I can understand your problems with Provape, I've had my issues with them as well but that was more of a personal nature and not so much specific to their devices so I stay away from that as well

I said my DNA's are accurate, I also said one is flawed, and I know it's flawed, and it doesn't always read right and has issues with the TC...it's never metered or fired my kayfun accurately once, even compared to my other DNA's...I've said that too...but with my drippers, as best as I can test and meter with my limited equipment its accurate so I said it was accurate. I have no problem with admitting I am wrong or being corrected, I would ask for the source as well like you did that's why I wanted to make clear I wasn't trying to be a douche' bag either because that is the farthest thing from my intention. I think we've read enough of eachother's posts to know that everything we say is with the best of intentions, at least I hope I come across that way and I want to apologize if it came off different.

It didn't I know what you meant. But a noob may not....
Ok past that... Your kayfun isn't working right in tc because its a kayfun.
Get a 3.1 kayfun or a lemo and ill put money that it'll work. Unless its The firmware from just before the current version.
The spring in the kf4 ruins TC in any mod. SteamTuners, vaperev and cloud9 all sell a kit that cam fix that.

 

[madmonkey]

It didn't I know what you meant. But a noob may not....
Ok past that... Your kayfun isn't working right in tc because its a kayfun.
Get a 3.1 kayfun or a lemo and ill put money that it'll work. Unless its The firmware from just before the current version.
The spring in the kf4 ruins TC in any mod. SteamTuners, vaperev and cloud9 all sell a kit that cam fix that.

I can see you point, that's why I linked the video and the website as well to help explain....and pass that to the Kayfun....

I don't use my Kayfun in TC, just my drippers, It's an authentic Kayfun Lite Plus V2...the positive deck at the top of the screw hole is warn and even though I've replaced the screws it doesn't like to properly trap wire anymore...I have to fight to get it to trap properly and not short out and I don't use it much....whenever I put in another order from Vaperev I plan to replace it, in the meantime even before it got to that point it always read .08 off...it's not something I loose sleep over...as much as I love numbers I set my vapes by taste more than anything still...I run 1.4 ohm coils in it so I don't have to worry about it being to low to fire and if something happens at least it's a higher resistance coil. I've had my DNA unlock in my pocket only once and autofire burning up my wick while I was at work...that made for a long day...but I still love it...I just be more careful these days to mind the furniture I am carrying to make sure it doesn't bump against my pockets too much...although I broke my favorite delrin drip tip today that way as well...life happens, I just happen to love lemonade so I go with it

For what its worth...I am glad we had this talk...I feel like we're becoming better "forum friends" from it and I hope you feel the same

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I can see you point, that's why I linked the video and the website as well to help explain....and pass that to the Kayfun....

I don't use my Kayfun in TC, just my drippers, It's an authentic Kayfun Lite Plus V2...the positive deck at the top of the screw hole is warn and even though I've replaced the screws it doesn't like to properly trap wire anymore...I have to fight to get it to trap properly and not short out and I don't use it much....whenever I put in another order from Vaperev I plan to replace it, in the meantime even before it got to that point it always read .08 off...it's not something I loose sleep over...as much as I love numbers I set my vapes by taste more than anything still...I run 1.4 ohm coils in it so I don't have to worry about it being to low to fire and if something happens at least it's a higher resistance coil. I've had my DNA unlock in my pocket only once and autofire burning up my wick while I was at work...that made for a long day...but I still love it...I just be more careful these days to mind the furniture I am carrying to make sure it doesn't bump against my pockets too much...although I broke my favorite delrin drip tip today that way as well...life happens, I just happen to love lemonade so I go with it

For what its worth...I am glad we had this talk...I feel like we're becoming better "forum friends" from it and I hope you feel the same

yeah Roger.
So tour adv is a kayfun v2
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[Fictitious Character]

Wrong thread....

 

[nickpenta]

I am new to vaping. My first mod was a ProVari P3 with a Nautilus tank. Absolutely love the P3. Its simple and easy to use and has been great for a noob like me. So hanging out in the local vape shop after I got my P3 I started looking at the Vapor Shark. I heard there were issues when the rDNA 40 was released regarding shipping, some screen acting weird, and some tanks not working that great. But lately I have seen a lot of positive reviews and comments.

So while grabbing some juice today I decided to get the Vapor Shark rDNA 40 with a Kanger mini tank. Got it set up in the store and walked out all warm and happy. I used it off and on while driving home for no more than 30 minutes and then went to fire it and...nothing. It wouldnt fire, the screen would not come on, nada. I thought it was locked, or in stealth mode or something. Nope. The only thing that worked was the charging light when it was plugged in. I replaced the battery and even tried to put in backwards to get an alarm. Nothing. It wasnt the tank either.

I called Vapor Shark about it and told them about the problem. They were clueless as to why it was doing that. They said I would have to send an email with the issue then I could send it in and have it fixed. Ok well not really much else they can do I guess.

I went back to DragonFly where I bought it (and they are an authorized reseller) and they just replaced it with a new one after looking at it. They are great folks there and have awesome customer service. Its really weird that it was working and just quit after 30 minutes of sporadic use. The replacement seems to be working as it should but its only had a few hours of use. So hopefully this will keep working and I wont have any issues. Maybe I just a got a lemon.

Has anyone seen this issue before?

It may be in stealth mode look up the manual and go down to the modes and see how to get out of stealth mode if you want to see for yourself but you have to click the fire button 5 times until it's in lock mode then after its in lock mode old the fire button and the down button until it goes out of stealth mode

 

[Whiskey]

I have had mine for 2 1/2 years, it is finally loosing time on it's charge my little ace, I love it so much, it was a gift f1r3b1rd knows the one I have, the sweet heart NEVER failed me, I will be VERY sad to say good bye to it, ultimately one of the BEST mods I ever owned.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

I have had mine for 2 1/2 years, it is finally loosing time on it's charge my little ace, I love it so much, it was a gift f1r3b1rd knows the one I have, the sweet heart NEVER failed me, I will be VERY sad to say good bye to it, ultimately one of the BEST mods I ever owned.

Its a beauty, you know you can send it in for a new battery.

 

[Whiskey]

I will do that, it has worked flawlessly

 

[f1r3b1rd]

They are awesome, in fact I just got my tracking number for the 200

 

[Whiskey]

TOOOOOO cool, lucky bastid!!!!

 

[dawnwells]

Thanks all the sharing your experience here. I just placed my order and expecting to get that by this weekend. design of rDNA 40 look too be good and hope it's functionality will also be good.