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Q-Class vs Vaporshark DNA 200 - Which Would You Choose?

  • Q-Class

    Votes: 14 51.9%
  • VS DNA200

    Votes: 13 48.1%

  • Total voters
    27
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skt239

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Hello all,

I really don't like doing these types of post but I'm truly stumped. I knocked it out of the park this last mother's day so my wife wants to buy me something really nice for father's day. She's basically told me to send her a link of what I want and she will make it happen. So I am completely torn between the SX Q and the Vaporshark now that they come pre-loaded with all the settings for TC, minimizing the need for escribe. I have already gone through the pro's and con's of both so I am well versed in the differences between the two. I have a few IPV's so I'm pretty familiar with the Yihi chip but never owned a DNA and have always been intrigued by them. I know there are quite a few better DNA devices out there but the form factor, quick charging and customer support have me set on the Vaporshark. As for the SX, I am familiar with the board, like the duel 18650 and love the looks of it. So, which would you choose and why?

Thanks for helping me spend my money :)
 

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I'll give it a shot. As you know I'm a DNA200 guy but I also like the Yihi chip.

The VS will be smaller for sure. It's the only DNA200 that offers 2 amp charging. It uses a 900mah 3s Lipo pack but with the 2 amp charging you can get it almost fully charged in around 45 minutes (working out the math I came out to ~75% from completely dead in that time frame). It has Escribe which I really like (some people don't want to be bothered). To me it offers more customization and information than any other chip. The DNA board is warrantied for a full year.

The SX Mini Q runs off of 2 x 18650 so charging time isn't an issue (I hear it does have 2 amp charging built in as well). It's not out yet so I'm going on early reviews I've seen. The SX mods in general are well thought of (seem to be pretty durable). As you know, I'm not a big fan of trying to squeeze 200 watts out of 2 x 18650 batteries, but most people don't really run that high. The warranty is 6 months and iirc 90 days on the USB port. They have been known to deny warranty if you get it below there MSRP (It hasn't happened to me, but if you look it up you will see it can happen). I saw a review of one in Ferrari Red and it's gorgeous.

I bet when you started reading you thought I would say the VS all the way, but that's not the case. I'm actually intrigued by the Q but without it being in regular vapers hands, I would need more info before I jumped on-board. I really do like the Ferrari Red though :drool:. The best I can do is try to give the pros and cons of each as I see it so far. In the end personal preference plays a huge part (battery type, Escribe, looks, etc). I will say $200 for either is a hard sell for me because most of my DNA200 mods I have bought for under $120 shipped (I'm always on the lookout for deals) The one real positive I see towards the DNA200 mods is warranty and the fact Evolv doesn't care if you found a smoking hot deal. They really are great to deal with if you ever have a problem and with them being in the USA, logistics if that were to occur are much better. I wish I could give you a straight forward, get this or that all the way. Good luck my friend, in the end I think either one will be great!

Cheers,
Steve
 
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I found the review I was talking about on the Q. In case you are interested in seeing it for yourself, here you go.


Cheers,
Steve
 
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skt239

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I'll give it a shot. As you know I'm a DNA200 guy but I also like the Yihi chip.

The VS will be smaller for sure. It's the only DNA200 that offers 2 amp charging. It uses a 900mah 3s Lipo pack but with the 2 amp charging you can get it almost fully charged in around 45 minutes (working out the math I came out to ~75% from completely dead in that time frame). It has Escribe which I really like (some people don't want to be bothered). To me it offers more customization and information than any other chip. The DNA board is warrantied for a full year.

The SX Mini Q runs off of 2 x 18650 so charging time isn't an issue (I hear it does have 2 amp charging built in as well). It's not out yet so I'm going on early reviews I've seen. The SX mods in general are well thought of (seem to be pretty durable). As you know, I'm not a big fan of trying to squeeze 200 watts out of 2 x 18650 batteries, but most people don't really run that high. The warranty is 6 months and iirc 90 days on the USB port. They have been known to deny warranty if you get it below there MSRP (It hasn't happened to me, but if you look it up you will see it can happen). I saw a review of one in Ferrari Red and it's gorgeous.

I bet when you started reading you thought I would say the VS all the way, but that's not the case. I'm actually intrigued by the Q but without it being in regular vapers hands, I would need more info before I jumped on-board. I really do like the Ferrari Red though :drool:. The best I can do is try to give the pros and cons of each as I see it so far. In the end personal preference plays a huge part (battery type, Escribe, looks, etc). I will say $200 for either is a hard sell for me because most of my DNA200 mods I have bought for under $120 shipped (I'm always on the lookout for deals) The one real positive I see towards the DNA200 mods is warranty and the fact Evolv doesn't care if you found a smoking hot deal. They really are great to deal with if you ever have a problem and with them being in the USA, logistics if that were to occur are much better. I wish I could give you a straight forward, get this or that all the way. Good luck my friend, in the end I think either one will be great!

Cheers,
Steve
Steve,

Thanks for the feedback. That red on the SX is really nice and fact that you can switch out the doors is even better. I also like the fact that Evolv takes care of their customers which is rare in the vape world. The SX is starting to pop up places so info should fourth coming soon. I still have a little time so I'll be watching and reading as much as I can. I'll start with the video you just posted. Thanks for the info.
 

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IMO The VS & the Q are apples & oranges. You should compare the Q to a VT133, it's a DNA200 chip mod,it has a dual 18650 configuration & there similar in size :) BTW the VT133 can be had for less than half the price of the Q :) http://www.ecig.com/hcigar-vt133-200w-dna-box-mod.html
Good call and when I started my research I began with that premise in mind. However, the VS has been on my list for a long time and in the end lust trumped logic :)

Does anyone know if the SX comes pre-loaded with a 316l setting or is it like my IPV5 with the mind boggling 304 pre set ?
 

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I would go for the Q myself, but only just. The ML is such an awesome chip I am expecting the Q to be fantastic. Something else to think about is the new VS Vapor Flask that is coming out soon, Classic Vapor Flask feel with a DNA 133 board and dual batteries. https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/sharkflask133?source=feed_text&story_id=1067809193267044 ... Like I said though, this is just food for thought.

As for the SS-316L question, I would expect it to come ready to go with SS-316L, but then I also expected the IPV5 to come that way too. :(
 

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Bottom line is get the one you like the best....

You didn't say what your vaping style is so do you need 200 watts?

Another option might be the new DNA75 that is just about to hit the market. Saw a few already for about 100 bucks... ( 1/2 the price of the Q )

. http://vapenw.com/hcigar-vt75-evolv-dna75

http://www.myvaporstore.com/HCigar-VT75-Evolv-DNA75-Mod-Black-p/hcvt7510.htm


I've used a DNA200 for 10 months now and fairly recently had a ML for a week before deciding it wasn't for me, So the only thing I can say is "buy the one that floats your boat".
 

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I would go for the Q myself, but only just. The ML is such an awesome chip I am expecting the Q to be fantastic. Something else to think about is the new VS Vapor Flask that is coming out soon, Classic Vapor Flask feel with a DNA 133 board and dual batteries. https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/sharkflask133?source=feed_text&story_id=1067809193267044 ... Like I said though, this is just food for thought.

As for the SS-316L question, I would expect it to come ready to go with SS-316L, but then I also expected the IPV5 to come that way too. :(
For the sake of accuracy, the ML isn't a chip/board. The chip/board that the SX Mini ML class uses is a SX350J-V2. The way I understand it, the main difference between the SX450J (board used in the Q class) and the SX350J V2 is that the SX450J offers 2 amp charging and goes up to 200 watts (SX350J V2 goes up to 150 watts). There is also no such thing as an Evolv DNA133 board. It's a DNA200 board which gets throttled back to 133 watts when using 2 cells in series. The board produces 200 watts in it's 3 battery configuration and 133 in a 2 cell configuration (both in series). Not picking on you, but just trying to keep people from getting confused.

Cheers,
Steve


Edit As per Fictitious Character the SX350J V2 has been recently updated to 200 watts when used in it's 2 cell configuration (series).
 
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Both are solid options imo. I enjoy my Opus dna200 but I tend to favor the SX devices. I am waiting on a Q atm so I really don't have much to add at this point that hasn't already been said. I do agree that either way you go should be solid.
 

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For the sake of accuracy, the ML isn't a chip/board. The chip/board that the SX Mini ML class uses is a SX350J-V2. The way I understand it, the main difference between the SX450J (board used in the Q class) and the SX350J V2 is that the SX450J offers 2 amp charging and goes up to 200 watts (SX350J V2 goes up to 150 watts). There is also no such thing as an Evolv DNA133 board. It's a DNA200 board which gets throttled back to 133 watts when using 2 cells in series. The board produces 200 watts in it's 3 battery configuration and 133 in a 2 cell configuration (both in series). Not picking on you, but just trying to keep people from getting confused.

Cheers,
Steve
The sx350j v2 board recently got an update to claim the 200w mark as well in dual batt.
 

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Bottom line is get the one you like the best....

You didn't say what your vaping style is so do you need 200 watts?

Another option might be the new DNA75 that is just about to hit the market. Saw a few already for about 100 bucks... ( 1/2 the price of the Q )

. http://vapenw.com/hcigar-vt75-evolv-dna75

http://www.myvaporstore.com/HCigar-VT75-Evolv-DNA75-Mod-Black-p/hcvt7510.htm


I've used a DNA200 for 10 months now and fairly recently had a ML for a week before deciding it wasn't for me, So the only thing I can say is "buy the one that floats your boat".
A lot of us have picked up the Hcigar VT133 (DNA200) from Ecig.com for ~ $80 recently. IMO it's the best bang for the buck atm. I can't believe I got a DNA200 chipped mod for under $80 (with a coupon I had). :stars:

Cheers,
Steve
 

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The video posted, is kind of lack luster :( It's basically the same chip as the V2! At least he realizes 200 watts with dual 18650's is iffy! He says end of May or even June! hope he's wrong, I preordered mine Mar 26th & it all ready seems like it's been forever! There are so many good choices now for around 100.00 or even less, this could be a tough sell.
 

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Thanks for all the replies guys. If the 2amp charging actually works on the SX and it's bit sketchy, I think my mind is made up :)
 

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For the sake of accuracy, the ML isn't a chip/board. The chip/board that the SX Mini ML class uses is a SX350J-V2. The way I understand it, the main difference between the SX450J (board used in the Q class) and the SX350J V2 is that the SX450J offers 2 amp charging and goes up to 200 watts (SX350J V2 goes up to 150 watts). There is also no such thing as an Evolv DNA133 board. It's a DNA200 board which gets throttled back to 133 watts when using 2 cells in series. The board produces 200 watts in it's 3 battery configuration and 133 in a 2 cell configuration (both in series). Not picking on you, but just trying to keep people from getting confused.

Cheers,
Steve


Edit As per Fictitious Character the SX350J V2 has been recently updated to 200 watts when used in it's 2 cell configuration (series).
Agreed, I probably should have said the ML has such an awesome chip. I would also note for the sake of accuracy that the DNA 133 is marketed and often referred to as such.
 

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Ive had the SXmini M class since it came out and it still performs like the day I got it, they are very well built devices so I am a big fan of anything SX. I solely got the VT133 to tide me over until the Q is released then this will go back on the shelf, but I will say the DNA200 board has been pretty awesome to mess with in escribe and its a very smooth delivery of power. I still have my old VS dna40 from when those were first released and it still works flawless, I got lucky in that the coating on mine didn't break down like a lot of them- and that is actually what stopped me from getting the VS dna200, is there were still a number of people complaining about the finish quality not lasting. Personally, Id say the Q would be the way to go. That ferrari red looks gorgeous!
 

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A lot of us have picked up the Hcigar VT133 (DNA200) from Ecig.com for ~ $80 recently. IMO it's the best bang for the buck atm. I can't believe I got a DNA200 chipped mod for under $80 (with a coupon I had). :stars:

Cheers,
Steve

I remembering reading a post about someone robbing ecig.com :) congrats, hope you are enjoying it.
 

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I don't know if I'd buy a VS, but I'll recommend the DNA over the SX. I've played with a late stage prototype at a convention of sorts and it's basically just a 350J-V2 with a few more minor features. The SX Q software is both ugly and limiting and the ML class let me down. I recommend a LV Triade or LV Efusion Duo, the VS isn't a mod for battery life. Plus the DNA is a buck only chip which naturally combined with Evolv quality leads to a very high 97% power efficiency. Functionality, efficiency and options are what win me over in a mod. The SX Q Class is basically a 'DNA for dummies' mod from both what I've read and seen.

The Q is boost/buck. Plus there's no way you're squeezing a safe 200W out of two 18650's after internal cell sag without PWM. Escribe also has more customization options than the Q software.

My Q class comes tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath for it to beat the DNA. SX Pure technology simply isn't winning me over with its facade of lies that it proved to be on the IPV5 which used a yet again repurposed SX330.
 

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Form factor. The Q class is a rather large mod, same size as an ipv 5. And if you really want a dual battery yihi chip mod that basically does everything the Q class does then the Boxer 200W sx350j v2 is better IMO.

Only difference is Q has 2amp charging...but who really charges their batteries in their mods anyway

btw yihi boards are notoriously battery hungry compared to the dna200.
 
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The DNA will be the least regulated power hungry board currently out due to its HIGH 97% power efficiency, buck-only does wonders for a board. The boost/buck system plus Yihi's typical efficiency numbers will leave the Q at 76-81%ish in my opinion if not worse. Plus the VS DNA200 has 2 amp charging.

Not to mention lithium polymer batteries are far superior to lithium ion 18650's. Yeah I'm biased, I'm an electrical engineer who works for a lithium polymer battery company, doesn't mean it isn't true. The SX450J board on its own may be great if we ever even see it, but given it's a Boost/Buck chip will always leave it behind in the efficiency bracket compared to a buck-only system. Li-Po batteries sag far less internally on average due to better battery chemistry because there's more to work with when designing a Li-Po cell, designing an 18650 is a multi million dollar process and it becomes difficult to improve them marginally because you're limited to an 18650 sized tube. Li-Po packs can be virtually any size and have a superior chemistry.

Batteries aside, pulling both a SAFE and LEGIT 200W out of two 18650's after battery sag and ESPECIALLY at lower battery voltage charges (god forbid this be a high wattage pull while the board is boosting the voltage, the input current will be through the roof and you'll be risking thermal runaway but I'm sure the board won't allow this in most instances) because even the best 18650's only have a CDR of around 25-30A when took to bench tests. Plus due to their higher internal resistance and limited chemistry, they sag far harder ESPECIALLY at higher power loads.

Software. SX-Q hurts my eyes and Escribe has FAR more options in terms of what you can do with the mod. For example, last time I had my ML on the software, I saw NO options for mod internal resistance and case thermals like Escribe has. This can play a huge role in accurate power delivery to the atomizer. Then the DNA has up to 8 profiles and it's just easier in my experience to work with a DNA and get accurate results in TC than it ever was with my let down that was the ML Class 350J-V2. If you go to a Renegade style high-wattage 350J-V2 things get better, but, not DNA better.

All in all, the DNA board just does more than the 450J, the Escribe software has more than the SX-Q software and the board itself is accessible while with this FDA thing and Yihi's lack of a response to the topic, we may NEVER see a modder 450J board on the market.

At the end of the day, if you want more functionality, more efficiency, a real 200W, more options, etc. the DNA200 seems like the board to go with. Plus with a DNA you currently have a ton of retail mods to choose from and DIY options. The 450J is limited to the Q Class, at least right now.

Unless you're just a fan of Yihi or in my case are curious and have money to blow on vapeocalypse spare mods for the FDA Doomsday survival, I see no reason to pick the Q-Class over a DNA200 powered device right now. Sorry SX, ever since the DNA200 was released you just haven't been what you used to be. Back in the DNA40 days I would've picked SX every time, now I see myself never picking SX other than just to try out the mod.

The only thing I even SAW on the prototype model (this wasn't too long ago, it was a late-stage prototype so don't go raving about how so much can change, the reps themselves said it was going to be VERY similar to the retail launch Q Class mod) that made the board different than the 350J-V2 was this SX-Pure technology bullshit they employed with the IPV5 SX330WePimpedThisBoardOutAgainBitches powered mod. The SX-Pure technology was a load of garbage and lies on the IPV5, even when used with their Altus ripoff RTA that wasn't any better than the failure that was the Altus. So, like I said, I'm not holding my breath. Mine will be here sometime this morning, so, I'll let you guys know how she does but I HIGHLY doubt it's going to win my affection over the DNA200.

Yihi seems to just be slapping pointless features and wattage increases on the SAME boards and releasing them as something new lately. They re-purpose boards like motherfuckers, I do not honestly feel that they're focused on developing new technology, instead they're focused on re-purposing the same shit OVER and OVER again until there's just nothing left to slap onto the same board. The SX330 has been re-purposed god knows how many times at this point, the 350J-V2 has been updated too many times to count firmware-wise and I don't see the 450J being any different. Evolv has Yihi throwing shit to the wall just praying something sticks. The IPV4 and IPV5 weren't Yihi devices, but they used Yihi chips, the SX330 has been pimped and souped and soldered to hell at this point and the mods housing them have all been crap lately.

I'm sure the SX-Mini Q Class will be a great mod, I'm not doubting that. Just no greater than a Renegade SX-350J-V2, and definitely not better than a DNA200 device.
 
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On the surface they both look so appealing and it feels like a challenge to make a decision which one to pick,

BUT if you are going to spend that much, i would buy an all American product for a change, i would not want any Chinese parts or labor involved if i am willing to shell $200+ on a vaping device, with the Vaporshark DNA200 you get top of the line all US electronics, US engineering know-how, manufacturing, labor and material, Vaporshark will always be there for you for support even after your warranty expires and if they do not, then Evolv will cover for them and take care of all your chip related support needs, having a US service center and customer support is a huge advantage, having one full year of warranty is another huge advantage. for me it is very clear i buy Chinese when it is cheap, but in that price range i would go US all the way, besides the VaporShark DNA200 looks more modern and neat, the SX has a Chinese touch to it if you know what i mean.
 

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The point is the Evolv board, the DNA200, is the beans and cornbread of the whole mod. That and the battery chosen. Otherwise it's just a box.

I don't think China vs. USA matters, maybe because I'm fucking Serbian, but I just know from seeing the prototype and even playing with it, and what I've read about it, the DNA has more features, better software and seems to be a more stable board that undoubtedly will have higher power efficiency and the Q won't even be able to do a legit 200W safely.

Why buy the Q-Class? It's $200 flat. a LV Triade triple 18650 DNA200 can be had for $150, VT133's can be had for $90, VT200's can be had for $90, VS's can be had for $160. WHY?
 

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Just a slight correction.... Vapor Sharks are assembled in China and use an Evolv board....
And said Evolv board I believe is made in China too, lol. I'll be quick. For TC mods, I've got an IPV4, Hohmwrecker, iPV3 Li, and two DNA 200's, with 2 more DNA's in the form of VT133's on the way to me now. I haven't vaped an SX mini, so I haven't used the 350 v1 or v2. I've had plenty of experience with the 330 chip variations. Now, to the point. Just my opinion, but the yihi chips I've used are nowhere near as good with TC as the DNA. I know the new Q will be different, but I'm guessing it's still PWM in TC mode. The DNA 200 is just much more smooth of a Vape. It handles TC incredibly well.

So I vote DNA, I'm no Yihi hater, either. If you're more concerned with vaping in power mode, well they're likely both rather similar. Just a guess. To me, the DNA reigns supreme for TC. My .02 cents.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys; lots of good info in these post. The shortcomings of the Q class are definitely worth taking note of. At this point I'm considering letting my wife choose between the two and surprise me.

@Mikhail Naumov I appreciate the time you took to put together some very important points.
 

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I don't think either is a bad choice. But IF YOU DO go DNA, which I highly recommend you do, I suggest you rethink the type. Get a LavaBox DNA200, same size as the VS. Then there's a 1,300mah 3S lipo extension kit that keeps it roughly the same size. That way you can get most of a day out of it, and you'll still have a well made, functional mod. Or a LV triade, it's still VERY compact. Triple 18650 DNA200.
 

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Lostvape Triade, compact, seemingly very well made triple 18650 DNA200. Basically what the Reuleaux should've been:

https://aspenvalleyvapes.com/shop/variable-wattage-electronic-cigarettes/authentic-lost-vape-triade/

Lostvape Efusion Duo, swaps with a 1,300mah 3S Lipo and a dual 18650 sled for 133W mod.:

http://www.vapordna.com/Lost-Vape-EFusion-Duo-DNA-133-DNA-200-Box-Mod-p/lvfudu.htm

Lavabox DNA200:

http://www.vaperoyalty.com/lavabox-dna200-mod-black/

Extension for LB:

http://www.volcanoecigs.com/lavabox-dna-200-1300mah-battery-extender-pack.html
 

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Lostvape Triade, compact, seemingly very well made triple 18650 DNA200. Basically what the Reuleaux should've been:

https://aspenvalleyvapes.com/shop/variable-wattage-electronic-cigarettes/authentic-lost-vape-triade/

Lostvape Efusion Duo, swaps with a 1,300mah 3S Lipo and a dual 18650 sled for 133W mod.:

http://www.vapordna.com/Lost-Vape-EFusion-Duo-DNA-133-DNA-200-Box-Mod-p/lvfudu.htm

Lavabox DNA200:

http://www.vaperoyalty.com/lavabox-dna200-mod-black/

Extension for LB:

http://www.volcanoecigs.com/lavabox-dna-200-1300mah-battery-extender-pack.html

Thanks for the links. I've looked closely at all three of those and I'm most intrigued by the Lava. I'm not the biggest fan of the box and I wonder how it would feel in my hand. I don't put too much emphasis on the appearance but the comfort factor is a big one. If you own one, can you give me a little insight as the how it feels in the hand? (paging @Wingsfan0310)
 

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I like my Lavabox's quite a bit. With the rubber grip I think they feel very good in hand. I don't have the 1300mah extension so I can't speak to that. I think out of all mine, they probably look the best (especially the Blood Red, my current favorite). Here's a link that has pictures of both of my Lavabox's along with 3 of my other DNA200 mods.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/limited-edition-blood-red-lavabox-dna200.206607/

Cheers,
Steve
 

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I like my Lavabox's quite a bit. With the rubber grip I think they feel very good in hand. I don't have the 1300mah extension so I can't speak to that. I think out of all mine, they probably look the best (especially the Blood Red, my current favorite). Here's a link that has pictures of both of my Lavabox's along with 3 of my other DNA200 mods.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/limited-edition-blood-red-lavabox-dna200.206607/

Cheers,
Steve

Might fine collection and you are right, the blood red is really nice. Well I guess I'm going to have to add the Lavabox to the list.
 

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Might fine collection and you are right, the blood red is really nice. Well I guess I'm going to have to add the Lavabox to the list.
Thanks buddy! Just a heads up, Volcano also makes a Lavabox in Bone White now as well. Volcano almost always has a 10% coupon, and sometimes they have a 20% off coupon. I bought the Blood Red with a 20% off coupon during their Presidents Day sale. Memorial day is coming up so you might just be in luck. If you decide on getting one, let me know and I'll look for the coupon for you. I get emails from them during their sales and promotions.

Cheers,
Steve
 

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Thanks buddy! Just a heads up, Volcano also makes a Lavabox in Bone White now as well. Volcano almost always has a 10% coupon, and sometimes they have a 20% off coupon. I bought the Blood Red with a 20% off coupon during their Presidents Day sale. Memorial day is coming up so you might just be in luck. If you decide on getting one, let me know and I'll look for the coupon for you. I get emails from them during their sales and promotions.

Cheers,
Steve

That's very cool of you, Steve. Thanks for the help.
 

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I was curious as to where I could get a newer version of the VS with the pre-loaded settings, should I choose to go the DNA route. I decided I would just email Vaporshark and to my surprise they responded within 30min. Considering that most of my mods have zero customer support, I was quite surprised. Has anyone ever ordered directly from VS?
 

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I was curious as to where I could get a newer version of the VS with the pre-loaded settings, should I choose to go the DNA route. I decided I would just email Vaporshark and to my surprise they responded within 30min. Considering that most of my mods have zero customer support, I was quite surprised. Has anyone ever ordered directly from VS?
I believe @f1r3b1rd orders directly from them and praises their CS. I tagged him so he will probably see this. Better to get the word straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

Cheers,
Steve
 

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I was curious as to where I could get a newer version of the VS with the pre-loaded settings, should I choose to go the DNA route. I decided I would just email Vaporshark and to my surprise they responded within 30min. Considering that most of my mods have zero customer support, I was quite surprised. Has anyone ever ordered directly from VS?
@f1r3b1rd has a good contact there which could improve your customer experience even further, or even get you some special deal, if i was you i would go with the Vaporshark, it is a very unique device i don't think you will ever have a second thought about the SX Q if you end up with the Vaporshark DNA200, i badly want one myself, but with the extra shipping, taxes and customs i will have to pay on it, the final price would be astronomical, this is the only thing stopping me,

a small thing to consider with this device though is that many complain about its paint coming off, so if you end up getting it, it is better if you get the SharkSkin sleeve with it to preserve its paint ...
 

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I was curious as to where I could get a newer version of the VS with the pre-loaded settings, should I choose to go the DNA route. I decided I would just email Vaporshark and to my surprise they responded within 30min. Considering that most of my mods have zero customer support, I was quite surprised. Has anyone ever ordered directly from VS?
I've ordered a few attys from them and a total of ten mods.
Ive sent a few back for service(especially the dna40s) and have nothing but good things to say about my CS experiences.
For instance, they had issues with the first batch of dna200s and the finish.
They have since got it nailed down. I called, they paid shipping both ways and had my mod in a new case in my hands 6 days after it left my house.
the same board and everything.

That mod is now two months old and still looks brand new.


As the sxq- I have zero bad things to say about yihi products either,
If I were between the two it would come down to form factor and the vs. But that's me.
The dna does offer more custimazion. Theone thing yoni offers thatt the dna doesnt is a Kanthal power boost. I don't use Kanthal, so its not a deciding factor for me.


Plus vs iphonecall away
 

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I've ordered a few attys from them and a total of ten mods.
Ive sent a few back for service(especially the dna40s) and have nothing but good things to say about my CS experiences.
For instance, they had issues with the first batch of dna200s and the finish.
They have since got it nailed down. I called, they paid shipping both ways and had my mod in a new case in my hands 6 days after it left my house.
the same board and everything.

That mod is now two months old and still looks brand new.


As the sxq- I have zero bad things to say about yihi products either,
If I were between the two it would come down to form factor and the vs. But that's me.
The dna does offer more custimazion. Theone thing yoni offers thatt the dna doesnt is a Kanthal power boost. I don't use Kanthal, so its not a deciding factor for me.


Plus vs iphonecall away
I think that kind of customer support and level of service outweighs all other factors, i believe that the Yihi product has virtually no after-sale service/support and they would probably not honor their warranty if there is a need for it, that would be painful for a device with that price.
 

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I think that kind of customer support and level of service outweighs all other factors, i believe that the Yihi product has virtually no after-sale service/support and they would probably not honor their warranty if there is a need for it, that would be painful for a device with that price.
With the VS you get great CS from VS and Evolv as well. In this day and age, that's definitely not the norm. With the longer warranty and located in the states, it really is a huge + in their favor imo (since you are located here as well).

Cheers,
Steve
 

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I think that kind of customer support and level of service outweighs all other factors, i believe that the Yihi product has virtually no after-sale service/support and they would probably not honor their warranty if there is a need for it, that would be painful for a device with that price.
I have a pair of m class mods, one of them had a case of the magic disappearing black paint.
vapinart honored the warranty and did a good job for me, but that's the retail side and an exceptional vendor.
ive read some horror stories from some people in reference to after sales service and support.
for the same price as a VS mod, that is a hard pill to swallow.
vs on the other hanf still services their products after sale.
I AM NOT TRYING TO SHILL FOR THEM - then stating fact.
I dtill like my vsdna30, for its size and stealthiness, the things is about the size of a mini volt if not smaller, with an 1100mah lipo, I sent it in a few months back, to swap the battery- 20 bucks and 5 days turnaround for a 2 year old mod. and they still service anything else they have their name on.
in my book, that does make the extra money worth it.
 

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And if you really want a dual battery yihi chip mod that basically does everything the Q class does then the Boxer 200W sx350j v2 is better IMO.
I'm curious on what you are basing this comment on?

I'll admit that I too am curious on if there is a substantial difference between the SX450J and the SX350J V2 but since I don't have my Q in hand yet I can not say for sure, but your statement sounds rather certain.
 

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I'm curious on what you are basing this comment on?

I'll admit that I too am curious on if there is a substantial difference between the SX450J and the SX350J V2 but since I don't have my Q in hand yet I can not say for sure, but your statement sounds rather certain.

The video posted in this thread kind of suggests that & he has the final production version. It looks like the ship dates has been pushed up, to the 23rd now to :(
 

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I'm curious on what you are basing this comment on?

I'll admit that I too am curious on if there is a substantial difference between the SX450J and the SX350J V2 but since I don't have my Q in hand yet I can not say for sure, but your statement sounds rather certain.

I'm basing this comment from info I gathered from a Chinese vendor in China who did a review of the mod on youtube (in mandarin ofcourse). The same vendor also did a testing on whether the mod actually fires up to 200W and it did.

Don't get me wrong, its still a great mod with a good board and I'll most likely get one myself when these things go on sale at a later date.

[edit] video found below my comments are in there as well.

 

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Here's another quick look at the SX. Just like my IPV5, no pre-set for 316l but rather 304 which makes no practical sense to me.

 

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Here's another quick look at the SX. Just like my IPV5, no pre-set for 316l but rather 304 which makes no practical sense to me.

in yihi's defese they are good at giving their customers what they want.
it wouldn't shock me to see an update
 

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The point is the Evolv board, the DNA200, is the beans and cornbread of the whole mod. That and the battery chosen. Otherwise it's just a box.

I don't think China vs. USA matters, maybe because I'm fucking Serbian, but I just know from seeing the prototype and even playing with it, and what I've read about it, the DNA has more features, better software and seems to be a more stable board that undoubtedly will have higher power efficiency and the Q won't even be able to do a legit 200W safely.

Why buy the Q-Class? It's $200 flat. a LV Triade triple 18650 DNA200 can be had for $150, VT133's can be had for $90, VT200's can be had for $90, VS's can be had for $160. WHY?

Where can I get a VS DNA200 for $160? Every place I've looked are charging $199.
 

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The QC quality is GARBAGE on this mod, two magnets have already came loose and the inside of the door is scratched up a bit. 25mm devices look odd, anything bigger is a HELL NO if it's even possible to get a connection.

Want a Q Class experience? Buy a 350J-V2 Renegade. EVERYTHING, minus the Q taste control (which is a lie as far as I can tell I've noticed nothing from playing with it)

This thing is so light it feels like air and it's WEIRD, and the ergonomics are a C- at best.

Software is garbage. Sorry, just is. Hardly any options, it ripped off Escribe in 25% of its features, added some nonsense, made it headache inducing to look at it and SOLD DAT SHIT $$$$ WE CHINA BABY MURICA BUY ALL'AH OUR SHIT.

Seriously, this is not even close to a DNA200, this is a 350J-V2 with SX taste technology that does nothing and the quality control is CRAP.

200W is not 200W, it peaks at 172W mean then pulses in short burst to hit 195W or so and the batteries start getting uh-oh hot, it's pulling unsafe (the fact it even allows this is a WTF thing to me) amounts of current off of them. It sucks batteries DEAD quick, I mean like QUICK. Expect 6 hours tops over 80W.

This is a let down. I thought it would be good. The mod is just shittily made and it's a 350J-V2 with one new feature. Fuck SX, never getting another CENT off of me.

This mod does not hit 200W, I took engineering equipment far more accurate then Ebay O-scopes to it. It peaked at 175W mean, then bounced from 153W to 195W in small pulses. It also fucking SUCKED current out of the batteries. This mod is unsafe, it cannot do a legit, direct 200W, it's cheaply made, it can do nothing, actually it can do LESS than the DNA200, the software is useless and headache inducing and it's overpriced.

Avoid this, seriously. Two magnets just popped out fresh out of the box and the inside of the door was covered in scratches and the bottom of the mod has a small gash. The wattage down button STICKS sometimes and in TC mode it falls LEAGUES behind a properly set up DNA.

Don't buy this, I had somewhat decent hopes for this, not DNA killer hopes, but fairly good. It let me down so hard I threw it into the wall. Still works, but it wasn't hard given air weighs more than this piece of lies and Chinese cheap labor.

FUCK this mod. It's going in the never to be used corner.

DNA200 > SX350J-V2 > RX200 Board > Sigelei 213 Board > 450J board.

Seriously, it's that bad.
 
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The QC quality is GARBAGE on this mod, two magnets have already came loose and the inside of the door is scratched up a bit. 25mm devices look odd, anything bigger is a HELL NO if it's even possible to get a connection.

Want a Q Class experience? Buy a 350J-V2 Renegade. EVERYTHING, minus the Q taste control (which is a lie as far as I can tell I've noticed nothing from playing with it)

This thing is so light it feels like air and it's WEIRD, and the ergonomics are a C- at best.

Software is garbage. Sorry, just is. Hardly any options, it ripped off Escribe in 25% of its features, added some nonsense, made it headache inducing to look at it and SOLD DAT SHIT $$$$ WE CHINA BABY MURICA BUY ALL'AH OUR SHIT.

Seriously, this is not even close to a DNA200, this is a 350J-V2 with SX taste technology that does nothing and the quality control is CRAP.

200W is not 200W, it peaks at 172W mean then pulses in short burst to hit 195W or so and the batteries start getting uh-oh hot, it's pulling unsafe (the fact it even allows this is a WTF thing to me) amounts of current off of them. It sucks batteries DEAD quick, I mean like QUICK. Expect 6 hours tops over 80W.

This is a let down. I thought it would be good. The mod is just shittily made and it's a 350J-V2 with one new feature. Fuck SX, never getting another CENT off of me.

This mod does not hit 200W, I took engineering equipment far more accurate then Ebay O-scopes to it. It peaked at 175W mean, then bounced from 153W to 195W in small pulses. It also fucking SUCKED current out of the batteries. This mod is unsafe, it cannot do a legit, direct 200W, it's cheaply made, it can do nothing, actually it can do LESS than the DNA200, the software is useless and headache inducing and it's overpriced.

Avoid this, seriously. Two magnets just popped out fresh out of the box and the inside of the door was covered in scratches and the bottom of the mod has a small gash. The wattage down button STICKS sometimes and in TC mode it falls LEAGUES behind a properly set up DNA.

Don't buy this, I had somewhat decent hopes for this, not DNA killer hopes, but fairly good. It let me down so hard I threw it into the wall. Still works, but it wasn't hard given air weighs more than this piece of lies and Chinese cheap labor.

FUCK this mod. It's going in the never to be used corner.

DNA200 > SX350J-V2 > RX200 Board > Sigelei 213 Board > 450J board.

Seriously, it's that bad.
The Q looks awesome, while the Renegade just looks like a box, a well built box, but a box nonetheless. I really liked the graphics on the Renegade X Hydro boxes, but they are only the V1 chip ... I am sad to hear you didn't like it ... :(
 

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The QC quality is GARBAGE on this mod, two magnets have already came loose and the inside of the door is scratched up a bit. 25mm devices look odd, anything bigger is a HELL NO if it's even possible to get a connection.

Want a Q Class experience? Buy a 350J-V2 Renegade. EVERYTHING, minus the Q taste control (which is a lie as far as I can tell I've noticed nothing from playing with it)

This thing is so light it feels like air and it's WEIRD, and the ergonomics are a C- at best.

Software is garbage. Sorry, just is. Hardly any options, it ripped off Escribe in 25% of its features, added some nonsense, made it headache inducing to look at it and SOLD DAT SHIT $$$$ WE CHINA BABY MURICA BUY ALL'AH OUR SHIT.

Seriously, this is not even close to a DNA200, this is a 350J-V2 with SX taste technology that does nothing and the quality control is CRAP.

200W is not 200W, it peaks at 172W mean then pulses in short burst to hit 195W or so and the batteries start getting uh-oh hot, it's pulling unsafe (the fact it even allows this is a WTF thing to me) amounts of current off of them. It sucks batteries DEAD quick, I mean like QUICK. Expect 6 hours tops over 80W.

This is a let down. I thought it would be good. The mod is just shittily made and it's a 350J-V2 with one new feature. Fuck SX, never getting another CENT off of me.

This mod does not hit 200W, I took engineering equipment far more accurate then Ebay O-scopes to it. It peaked at 175W mean, then bounced from 153W to 195W in small pulses. It also fucking SUCKED current out of the batteries. This mod is unsafe, it cannot do a legit, direct 200W, it's cheaply made, it can do nothing, actually it can do LESS than the DNA200, the software is useless and headache inducing and it's overpriced.

Avoid this, seriously. Two magnets just popped out fresh out of the box and the inside of the door was covered in scratches and the bottom of the mod has a small gash. The wattage down button STICKS sometimes and in TC mode it falls LEAGUES behind a properly set up DNA.

Don't buy this, I had somewhat decent hopes for this, not DNA killer hopes, but fairly good. It let me down so hard I threw it into the wall. Still works, but it wasn't hard given air weighs more than this piece of lies and Chinese cheap labor.

FUCK this mod. It's going in the never to be used corner.

DNA200 > SX350J-V2 > RX200 Board > Sigelei 213 Board > 450J board.

Seriously, it's that bad.

Is this a final product mod? I wasn't aware they were available yet..but thanks for effectively talking me out of getting the Q as I had extremely high hopes for it coming from my M class. Either way, sounds like a terrible first impression so thanks!
 

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Where can I get a VS DNA200 for $160? Every place I've looked are charging $199.

Ebay...if you want to take the risk of VS not honoring a warranty repair. Its as low as $175 brand new. Also VS had a 20% off coupon for mothers day but thats over.
 

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