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I did think you meant health care, but wasn't sure...hell I'm paying 5k a year more for them same coverage!

It has ruined the HC business! Thousands of support people including techs, and even nurses lost their jobs over this "Affordable Health Care" NOT act!

Thank gawd whoever gets elected will do away with it! It's soooo screwed up!

Most haven't a clue about all it's hidden BALLOON costs that will bankrupt this country!

It reminds me of the federal income tax that was supposed to stop after WWII, gee it seems it never did, and the excuse that we are always in a war somewhere doesn't have any weight constitutionally, or provisionally in regards to how the federal income tax system works, seeing all these "wars" are un-declared, means there should not be any federal income tax!

We the people have and are being ignored and have no voice anymore....

Like I say vote these idiots out of office and hope we get some that are a bit less corrupt!
 

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On that note though, I saw they had a new dna40 mod in the works. Looks to be a little more solid.
I have several dna40 devices and two sxminis, the sx350j chip makes evolv take a nose dive. It hurts to say that a little too. But im ok with facing facts. Lol
I just got 2 vsdna40s back from OCD yesterday and while I absolutely love the form factor. I can't see using them for much more than a great grab and go device or something to use if im going to be in a place where it's going to get knocked around (because of the coating) but they sx350j with tl. Os a dream chip. 7 wraps of 26g and you're set its temp limiting done right!

Hcigar has the VT40 coming next week or so that has the new wide screen DNA40 chip set, and a sleeker box design..very nice and it too will not be much over a hundred dollars!

I think it's also a dual battery?..dunno I'll have to ask my boy...

My son cannot keep the HB40' in stock because he sells them for $99.99 with free USA shipping!
 

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I did think you meant health care, but wasn't sure...hell I'm paying 5k a year more for them same coverage!

It has ruined the HC business! Thousands of support people including techs, and even nurses lost their jobs over this "Affordable Health Care" NOT act!

Thank gawd whoever gets elected will do away with it! It's soooo screwed up!

Most haven't a clue about all it's hidden BALLOON costs that will bankrupt this country!

It reminds me of the federal income tax that was supposed to stop after WWII, gee it seems it never did, and the excuse that we are always in a war somewhere doesn't have any weight constitutionally, or provisionally in regards to how the federal income tax system works, seeing all these "wars" are un-declared, means there should not be any federal income tax!

We the people have and are being ignored and have no voice anymore....

Like I say vote these idiots out of office and hope we get some that are a bit less corrupt!
Im of the school of though that it's already decided.
I was never a conspiracy theorist, but the more I see going on around the world the more i think those crazy bastards that believe in the illuminati are right.
 

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Hcigar has the VT40 coming next week or so that has the new wide screen DNA40 chip set, and a sleeker box design..very nice and it too will not be much over a hundred dollars!

I think it's also a dual battery?..dunno I'll have to ask my boy...

My son cannot keep the HB40' in stock because he sells them for $99.99 with free USA shipping!
Check your pms
Im just glad to see the they finally got the chip working.
I've heard the 50 is gonnna be a set jt and forget it temp limiting. Not sure how that's gonna go
 

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Check your pms
Im just glad to see the they finally got the chip working.
I've heard the 50 is gonnna be a set jt and forget it temp limiting. Not sure how that's gonna go


Duuno I haven't seen anything solid on what the DNA 50 will hold, I do know that if the temp limiting goes away, i will come back...
 

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Im of the school of though that it's already decided.
I was never a conspiracy theorist, but the more I see going on around the world the more i think those crazy bastards that believe in the illuminati are right.


It's like this..."The New World Order"....unfortunately it's coming, and we the piss ants are out gunned!

The only thing we can hope for is that it will happen historically when we all still somewhat a free country..but that's not the plan....

"They" are already keeping whites pissed off at the blacks, blacks pissed off at white, pissed off at the Mexicans who are pissed off at the white Texans....on, and on...united we stand , divided we WILL FALL! and they want us divided!
 

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It's like this..."The New World Order"....unfortunately it's coming, and we the piss ants are out gunned!

The only thing we can hope for is that it will happen historically when we all still somewhat a free country..but that's not the plan....

"They" are already keeping whites pissed off at the blacks, blacks pissed off at white, pissed off at the Mexicans who are pissed off at the white Texans....on, and on...united we stand , divided we WILL FALL! and they want us divided!
Well I see it as more of the dumbasses pissed off at people with common sense. And people with common sense pissed off at the dumbasses

I know im pissed off at the dumbasses.

Seriously though without a real education to the general public we are all fucked.
 

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Well I see it as more of the dumbasses pissed off at people with common sense. And people with common sense pissed off at the dumbasses

I know im pissed off at the dumbasses.

Seriously though without a real education to the general public we are all fucked.

So, SO true!



AKA ya' can't fix stoopid!
 
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That woman gives me flashback to an evil substitute teacher I had in 5th grade.
Lmao
 

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That woman gives me flashback to an evil substitute teacher I had in 5th grade.
Lmao

She's actually a very nice person, in person, but I sure as hell would never want to be facing her in a courtroom!
( I meet here a few years back in LA on a business trip, happened she and her hubby were eating at the same restaurant..)

Ms. Buela Ballbuster!
 

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She's actually a very nice person, in person, but I sure as hell would never want to be facing her in a courtroom!

Ms. Buela Ballbuster!

I'll take your word for it. But if I was in her courtroom I would request a change of venue to Judge Joe Brown
 

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WoW dude....
I would much rather a mod that can let me vape the way I want.
My two provaris have not been taken out of their coffin..oops box.. In 10 months.
Wait, that's why they last so long they never get used.
lmao @ coffin

Okay so when does the NEW MEMBER shisnet go away....LOL
Not sure maybe 100 posts.

Not everyone wants a jumbled screen in a box...
The only competition would be if DNA fixed their QC issues and made their own tube mod...
My favorite regulated tube mod is a Mark Bugs WAEII it is housing a dna30 board and also is noted for its customer service and warranty. Yes it is a hassle dealing with Romania versus USA after the 1yr expires but I would not really consider any dna 30 disposable since board upgrades are common enough. I sadly do consider the dna 30 mods to be outdated though and that is the point that many are trying to make about the Provari mods. Just because your content with your vaping style does not mean that Provari or any old tech is at the top of their game it just means that you are content with older tech.
 

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lmao @ coffin


Not sure maybe 100 posts.


My favorite regulated tube mod is a Mark Bugs WAEII it is housing a dna30 board and also is noted for its customer service and warranty. Yes it is a hassle dealing with Romania versus USA after the 1yr expires but I would not really consider any dna 30 disposable since board upgrades are common enough. I sadly do consider the dna 30 mods to be outdated though and that is the point that many are trying to make about the Provari mods. Just because your content with your vaping style does not mean that Provari or any old tech is at the top of their game it just means that you are content with older tech.


Well said!

And now for some Sunday humor....

"Post Vapocalyspe underground mod"


"Not available in Indiana"
 

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A yup!

I got a Chalice III from ElectronicStix, and one of the posts started arching...had to send it to Romania, but very nice people to deal with!

Point being ...It all breaks!

How a company deals with it afterwards it what makes a difference, I don't care where it's made!
 
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"What's all this talk about jumbled screen displays..."?

 

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The real downfall is that you can't change the display color.


Yeah...that's always been a deal breaker for me.....LOL

The biggest problem I have with my VV VW devices is I can't use them to charge my phone.....:confused:
 

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Yeah...that's always been a deal breaker for me.....LOL

The biggest problem I have with my VV VW devices is I can't use them to charge my phone.....:confused:
Hell,,, the MVP 3 plus, 60w, 3800mah battery and can charge your phone.
Then again, I just carry a mophie for the phone. :)
 

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It's kinda like everyone wants a "end all be all" device, no one wants to just accept there are different devices to suit different vaping styles, some have good points, some bad, some have a balance, but lets face it regulated mods are not for everyone, and it is definitely a hard nut to crack when we're talking over $250.00!

I mean there was no way in hell I was going to run out and by a P3, and quality and all, I would have never bought my P3 if it wasn't the deal of the century!

Luckily there is a dealer in Nashville (which I'll be through at the end of the month) that has a programmer, and the upgrade is free!

What I need to do is get a copy of the firmware and do some creative editing! :D
 

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It's kinda like everyone wants a "end all be all" device, no one wants to just accept there are different devices to suit different vaping styles, some have good points, some bad, some have a balance, but lets face it regulated mods are not for everyone, and it is definitely a hard nut to crack when we're talking over $250.00!

I mean there was no way in hell I was going to run out and by a P3, and quality and all, I would have never bought my P3 if it wasn't the deal of the century!

Luckily there is a dealer in Nashville (which I'll be through at the end of the month) that has a programmer, and the upgrade is free!

What I need to do is get a copy of the firmware and do some creative editing! :D
What are they charging to turn it into something that can fire a subohm clearo?
Kind of a tough pill too when you're paying to update a mod you already paid that much for.

Ya gotta admit too, the sxmini's are pretty versatile, TL, 5w-120w fires to a 0.15 in power mode and 0.05 in tl.

Really can't see what else you would want it to do. -oh and the updates are free
Oops.. Can't super subohm... Which I only recently heard of, so if that's your thing...

But in a nutshell I agree, those of us that become hobbyists end up with more than 10 mods anyway, tying to find 'the one'. Like women
 
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People who don't like ProVape products, who think they are overpriced, should stick to $150 disposable PRC mods. Problem solved...

Except people are buying devices that cost less than the Provari because they're more versatile and have better feature sets while being just as durable.

And don't come with douchebag fanboys either.
 

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Just because something is too expensive or doesn't have enough power for you doesn't mean it is a bad product. The obsession and hatred for certain companies is a bit childish, but so is vaping to blow clouds...

I vape for flavour, more vapour means more flavour.

Rocket science 101.
 

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It's kinda like everyone wants a "end all be all" device, no one wants to just accept there are different devices to suit different vaping styles, some have good points, some bad, some have a balance, but lets face it regulated mods are not for everyone, and it is definitely a hard nut to crack when we're talking over $250.00!

I mean there was no way in hell I was going to run out and by a P3, and quality and all, I would have never bought my P3 if it wasn't the deal of the century!

Luckily there is a dealer in Nashville (which I'll be through at the end of the month) that has a programmer, and the upgrade is free!

What I need to do is get a copy of the firmware and do some creative editing! :D
Now I am curious how good of a deal you got on the P3.

I got a good deal on one as well but I did not hold onto it and traded it because I felt that there was not much real difference in function over the 2.5 at the time.

I have a local shop that does the upgrades as well. He is suppose to charge 20 bucks for the service.

I am not far from Nashville I need to check out their vape shops sometime.
 

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Now I am curious how good of a deal you got on the P3.

I got a good deal on one as well but I did not hold onto it and traded it because I felt that there was not much real difference in function over the 2.5 at the time.

I have a local shop that does the upgrades as well. He is suppose to charge 20 bucks for the service.

I am not far from Nashville I need to check out their vape shops sometime.


Nashville Vapor does not charge, spoke to the owner today...

According to their reseller agreement Provape provides the programer and firmware releases for free, and they are in turn suppose to do the updates for free...but if he gets it...

It was a deal...and it's firmware is one revision below what was just released V37, V38 is the newest.
 

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Nashville Vapor does not charge, spoke to the owner today...

According to their reseller agreement Provape provides the programer and firmware releases for free, and they are in turn suppose to do the updates for free...but if he gets it...

It was a deal...and it's firmware is one revision below what was just released V37, V38 is the newest.
Maybe my local shop is suppose to do it for free too then lol.

Got to love a deal.
 

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Maybe my local shop is suppose to do it for free too then lol.

Got to love a deal.

According to Provape they are, it's part of their agreement with them, and if so...they will be VERY unhappy to find out a dealer has been boning people!

I live 30 miles North of Memphis in Millington, and their is no dealer here, there is in Jackson, TN but they do not have a programmer yet...

Nashville Vapor has the programer, and the owner told me on the phone, free!
 

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According to Provape they are, it's part of their agreement with them, and if so...they will be VERY unhappy to find out a dealer has been boning people!

They get jealous when other people bone the people they bone?
 

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Ok, I didn't understand why two members here were "arguing" with each other, even though their responses were in the same train of thought.
Then I realized it must be that asshat troll from the Provarinati clan, I forgot I put him on my ignore list so the thread wasn't making sense.

I'm sure this just follows the exact same pattern he has perfected to a gold standard of provarinati fanboyism which you will find on almost every Provari thread on ECF.

Bottom line, this guy is a massive troll who just gets off on trying to one-up anyone who shares their opinion on the device. My suggestion is to ignore this jerk and carry on with conversing with normal folks.

Now, as far as Provari goes, looking at it today, sometimes less is more, so I still think the 2.5 version is a much better product than the P3.
Better than a DNA40 or SX mini M class? No, but I think its an apples to oranges comparison now. I think a proper comparable to a P3 is something like the innokin SVD2, or the MVP2 20W, etc....which the P3 stands ahead if you feel the price is worth it.
 

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^^^^ hahahahaha !!!!!!!! that's funny shit
 

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Ok, I didn't understand why two members here were "arguing" with each other, even though their responses were in the same train of thought.
Then I realized it must be that asshat troll from the Provarinati clan, I forgot I put him on my ignore list so the thread wasn't making sense.

I'm sure this just follows the exact same pattern he has perfected to a gold standard of provarinati fanboyism which you will find on almost every Provari thread on ECF.

Bottom line, this guy is a massive troll who just gets off on trying to one-up anyone who shares their opinion on the device. My suggestion is to ignore this jerk and carry on with conversing with normal folks.

Now, as far as Provari goes, looking at it today, sometimes less is more, so I still think the 2.5 version is a much better product than the P3.
Better than a DNA40 or SX mini M class? No, but I think its an apples to oranges comparison now. I think a proper comparable to a P3 is something like the innokin SVD2, or the MVP2 20W, etc....which the P3 stands ahead if you feel the price is worth it.


Pretty good analogy...

Like I said previously, unless I got the deal I got, I was not going EVER own one...it's more a novelty, and it will be a bit more useful with the new firmware!

For me anyways....

The ass hat you mention is just one of MANY reasons I bailed on ECF, not to mention they are owned and operated by the Canadians, and Brits, not Amelikans!
 

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Man I kan't tipe worth a sheet, Pornoshop, yeah that's it.....that's the ticket...

 

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Wow... If that's not based on a true story.
Lmao!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny as hell, there are like 5 more, just as hysterical...

One guy on ECF spit coffee all over his screen..LOL
 

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Liao... they didn't delete it and give you a 2 week vacation?
Before the exodus the cat people Had us punished for anything funny.
 

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Take it how ever you want. I don't sugar coat my viewpoints. I agree with most of what your are saying. Provari's are reliable and built like a tank and they have have a good reputation gained though customer service and solid products.
Funny, I didn't see anything offensive in the lest by the comment you were chastised for.
I will disagree with you in regards to their customer service. Their customer service have given me experiences (as well as a few close friends), that would have been barely good enough to be "acceptable" for a $5 eGo-- definitely not what one would expect for a $200-300 high end device.
 

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Liao... they didn't delete it and give you a 2 week vacation?
Before the exodus the cat people Had us punished for anything funny.

No I got a 5 day vacation for pissing off a Canadian ass hat mod...LOL!

They may have deleted it by now, duuno, don't care!

Hey I didn't know that the site was run by brits until I saw where my PayPal payments were going, and did a reverse lookup of the site name, all that stuff is public domain, freedom of information act and all that...you cannot hid anything on the net!

Brits and Canooks...LOL no offense meant

Not to mention they are really only about $$$$ !

They don't give a shit about people not smoking any more than the big juice makers, it's all about $$$
 

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Funny, I didn't see anything offensive in the lest by the comment you were chastised for.
I will disagree with you in regards to their customer service. Their customer service have given me experiences (as well as a few close friends), that would have been barely good enough to be "acceptable" for a $5 eGo-- definitely not what one would expect for a $200-300 high end device.


Is this addressed to me?

If so the post was deleted.

Not that I care but what i had posted:

yada..yada..yada..and I just got off the phone with no other than Robert O'nel the owner of this forum and he agreed the mods are a bit too over zealous and they need to clam their BS down....not to mention this is America and I know the admin being Canadian doesn't understand the principals of free speech....yada...yada...something to that effect in the Reo Lounge....

I hurt his feelwings aw....they can play Gerorge Calin' game "Go Play Hide and Go Fuck Yourself"
 
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"We are pushing out a new update to the P3. We are doing free updates to those that want to arrange to send their devices in to the ProVape spa or if you have a local dealer that has a programmer they can also update devices.

Here is a list of what has been updated:

* Support for .5 ohm tanks - The P3 now supports tanks down to .5 ohms.

* Low Battery Alert - When the device gets down to 18% left in the battery, the light will slowly flash yellow to alert you that it's getting low. (Many users requested we bring this back from the 2.5)

* CheckAll (1 second) - The CheckAll feature now has the option to set it to 1 second. This allows for a quick look at your settings without leaving the display on for 5 or more seconds. (Another user suggested feature)

* Battery Filtering - We have added some additional battery filtering to help with some problems reported by users saying the battery was empty when there was still energy left. Having the new spring and making sure all your connections are clean and tight is the main fix for this, but extra filtering will also help.

* Money Saved Counter - This new feature allows you to set the price of a pack of cigarettes and the P3 will keep track of: How many cigarettes avoided, puff count, and how much money you have saved on cigarettes, based on the amount you set per pack.

* Various bug fixes"

Reprinted from another place in the Matrix...

... Yet, not willing to go above 20w. I'm sorry, the whole battery safety "reasoning" they cite is bullshit. If the $79 SVD2, with the Evolv 20W board can limit output if it senses an 18350/18500 or a cheap-ass 18650, there is no reason the $300 P3 can't.

I just told my wife what the $300 P3 markets as selling points now...the color changing LED, and the "Money saved" counter, yet is severely underpowered to fire any of the current/modern clearomizers, Yet the current eGo can fire it perfectly at 1/10 the cost. She doesn't vape, but is glad I do, and basically doesn't care how much I spend on it. But her response was basically, questioning what ProVape is thinking trying to market that, and is curious to see how long they last with their business model.
 

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Is this addressed to me?

If so the post was deleted.

Not that I care but what i had posted:

yada..yada..yada..and I just got off the phone with no other than Robert O'nel the owner of this forum and he agreed the mods are a bit too over zealous and they need to clam their BS down....not to mention this is America and I know the admin being Canadian doesn't understand the principals of free speech....yada...yada...something to that effect in the Reo Lounge....

I hurt his feelwings aw....they can play Gerorge Calin' game "Go Play Hide and Go Fuck Yourself"
Nah...someone gave Zamazam shit for saying that it appeared that someone was a "provarian", when his post was in no way offensive.
 

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... Yet, not willing to go above 20w. I'm sorry, the whole battery safety "reasoning" they cite is bullshit. If the $79 SVD2, with the Evolv 20W board can limit output if it senses an 18350/18500 or a cheap-ass 18650, there is no reason the $300 P3 can't.

I just told my wife what the $300 P3 markets as selling points now...the color changing LED, and the "Money saved" counter, yet is severely underpowered to fire any of the current/modern clearomizers, Yet the current eGo can fire it perfectly at 1/10 the cost. She doesn't vape, but is glad I do, and basically doesn't care how much I spend on it. But her response was basically, questioning what ProVape is thinking trying to market that, and is curious to see how long they last with their business model.

I agree!

They need to at least jack it up to 30 watts!

Place disclaimers all over, do whatever, but sheesh come on....and people wonder why people buy foreign stuff?
 

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Nah...someone gave Zamazam shit for saying that it appeared that someone was a "provarian", when his post was in no way offensive.


Ah I didn't think I had pissed anyone off over here...yet! LOL

As far as ECF, you see how I feel, really always have , only three threads I went on there and I told everyone I was bailing for the most part...
 

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