What mech mod to get!?

[samooo1994]

I've been looking through a lot of mech mods and the, The Titan 26650 Copper Mod, is the one I like the look off, is this a good mod? Plus what battery size is best to get? Does this mod have adjustable battery slot?
I won't one that produces massive clouds of vapour!

 

[OBDave]

I'd suggest a 26650 battery for a 26650 mod, but that's just personal preference.

 

[samooo1994]

https://www.artisanvaporcompany.com/product/the-titan-26650-copper-mod/

 

[samooo1994]

Is this a good mod altogether?I'm new to mech mods

 

[OBDave]

First off, what kind of gear are you using now?

What makes you think you need a mech, and have you considered a high-powered regulated device?

Have you done any research into battery safety, coil building, Ohm's law? What kind of atomizer are you intending to use with this mech?

I don't have any experience with this particular device, but most are just a metal tube with some degree or another of decoration - the "mechanical" part means that all it does is make a connection with your battery to draw power, which in turn means that everything else required to create vapor, and maintain safety, is 100% up to you.

 

[scarecrowjenkins]

You may wanna swing by a local shop and take a look at a 26650 mod in person, because they're f'n huge. You don't want any surprises when you open that box. Also for me-i would make sure that you enjoy the style of button/locking mechanism before you buy anything. My first mech was a nemesis clone, and it was great until the first time i had to set it down or put it in my pocket. The locking ring became annoying VERY quickly. It's not something most people think about at first, but if you're gonna be using it every day you wanna make sure that you won't be annoyed every single time you need to set it down or put it in your pocket. The mod you are looking at makes no mention at all as to the locking mechanism, so i can't speak to this one in particular. I just wanted to call your attention to something i wish i had known when buying my first mech mod. And listen to the folks here when they speak of safety-battery disasters happen to real people and i'm one of them. Good luck!

 

[samooo1994]

First off, what kind of gear are you using now?

What makes you think you need a mech, and have you considered a high-powered regulated device?

Have you done any research into battery safety, coil building, Ohm's law? What kind of atomizer are you intending to use with this mech?

I don't have any experience with this particular device, but most are just a metal tube with some degree or another of decoration - the "mechanical" part means that all it does is make a connection with your battery to draw power, which in turn means that everything else required to create vapor, and maintain safety, is 100% up to you.

I'm intending to use a rda not sure what one yet, and yes I'm going to look at all the safety measures, not getting one really soon I have time to do that, and I currently use a jenson s 900 seties just a standard vape. I want a mech mod because it looks fun having to bold it all and do the coils plus I want massive clouds, thanks for the reply

 

[samooo1994]

You may wanna swing by a local shop and take a look at a 26650 mod in person, because they're f'n huge. You don't want any surprises when you open that box. Also for me-i would make sure that you enjoy the style of button/locking mechanism before you buy anything. My first mech was a nemesis clone, and it was great until the first time i had to set it down or put it in my pocket. The locking ring became annoying VERY quickly. It's not something most people think about at first, but if you're gonna be using it every day you wanna make sure that you won't be annoyed every single time you need to set it down or put it in your pocket. The mod you are looking at makes no mention at all as to the locking mechanism, so i can't speak to this one in particular. I just wanted to call your attention to something i wish i had known when buying my first mech mod. And listen to the folks here when they speak of safety-battery disasters happen to real people and i'm one of them. Good luck!

thank you for the information ill definatly keep that in mind !

 

[OBDave]

I'm intending to use a rda not sure what one yet, and yes I'm going to look at all the safety measures, not getting one really soon I have time to do that, and I currently use a jenson s 900 seties just a standard vape. I want a mech mod because it looks fun having to bold it all and do the coils plus I want massive clouds, thanks for the reply

Okay, cool - we've established where you're at (starting to do research) and where you want to go (massive clouds, brah!). I think selecting a mod is probably going to be one of the last steps you're going to want to take on your journey, rather than the first.

A couple good places to start out are the New Builders Corner and Battery Junkies subforums - lots of good info there, though unfortunately no one has created any all-inclusive sticky threads for the new builder yet.

This post http://www.vapingunderground.com/th...aping-and-want-huge-clouds.57203/#post-342212 and @madmonkey's reply especially are worth a read.

Spending a few days with that info will move you a lot farther along then asking about a specific mod at this point - and if you have access to a B&M it's a great idea to go in and handle a few different mods, like @scarecrowjenkins suggests. What looks good online may not be as attractive in person, and there's a lot more kit available in 18650 form than 26650.

 

[Whiskey]

Excellent post OBDave

 

[Robert B]

Is this a good mod altogether?I'm new to mech mods

It reads like an over priced chinese piece of shit to me. but thats just me reading between the lines in the description.

Sorry, but that's what it looks like to me

 

[BoomStick]

You could get half a dozen mech clones for that kinda money. I'd start with something cheaper and more well known and something that takes an 18650. Just my opinion. Good luck.

 

[samooo1994]

You could get half a dozen mech clones for that kinda money. I'd start with something cheaper and more well known and something that takes an 18650. Just my opinion. Good luck.

What are mech clones? Are they good

 

[samooo1994]

Okay, cool - we've established where you're at (starting to do research) and where you want to go (massive clouds, brah!). I think selecting a mod is probably going to be one of the last steps you're going to want to take on your journey, rather than the first.

A couple good places to start out are the New Builders Corner and Battery Junkies subforums - lots of good info there, though unfortunately no one has created any all-inclusive sticky threads for the new builder yet.

This post http://www.vapingunderground.com/th...aping-and-want-huge-clouds.57203/#post-342212 and @madmonkey's reply especially are worth a read.

Spending a few days with that info will move you a lot farther along then asking about a specific mod at this point - and if you have access to a B&M it's a great idea to go in and handle a few different mods, like @scarecrowjenkins suggests. What looks good online may not be as attractive in person, and there's a lot more kit available in 18650 form than 26650.

Thank you for your reply, What difference does the battery size make? And are clone mods good? what are they and what's the difference?

 

[Mike H.]

I recommend an mvp 20w or an i stick 20w

 

[BoomStick]

A clone is a Chinese copy of a certain piece of equipment. Some are crap, but a lot of them are pretty nice. The authentic version of my mech is $120. I got a super nice clone for $18.

 

[OBDave]

Thank you for your reply, What difference does the battery size make? And are clone mods good? what are they and what's the difference?

What @BoomStick said about clones - it's a fake copy of a mod someone else designed. I only own clones - I've had some bad ones and some good ones - the best mech I've ever bought was a $16 Nemesis, still one of my favorites even though I have a dozen to choose from now.

Most vape hardware uses 18XXX series batteries, most commonly 18650 but also 18500 and 18350 - a 26650 is bigger and often lasts longer, but you really need to read up on battery safety, amp limits, mah, and ohm's law like I suggested previously - there's a lot of difference between brands of battery, and even models of battery within a brand, and understanding how not to turn a mech mod into a pipe bomb that you hold up to your face involves a lot more researching on your own than it seems asking what the difference between an 18650 and a 26650 is indicates you've been motivated to do this far.

I'm gonna go with @Mike H. and recommend a regulated mod to start with, though if you're going to cloud chase you might want to go with something like an iStick 50, which should have plenty of power to get you started. Pair it with a Kanger Subtank or other similar topper to start with and you'll get some good clouds and plenty of safety.

 

[Mike H.]

No offense to the OP but the questions you are asking tell alot of us you have no business with a mech mod or an rda wanting to subohm.

Youre asking for a problem you will regret with just a simple common knowledge mistake.

Do yourself and the rest of us a favor and get something regulated to start with untill you UNDERSTAND the risks involved.

Youll be pleasantly surprised at the clouds you get off a kanger subtank mini and 30 watts of power...watch some you tube vids and see for yourself.

 

[KKen]

 

[Cloudboss]

I got this sweet stainless steel mod off ebay for 18$. I dont know the brand it was just labeled as the n100 telescopic

 

[Eric DeCastro]

looks like a launcher

 

[Number3124]

Okay OP first of all, all of this talk about mech mods and clouds is good and all, but what you need to do first is read up on ohms law, battery safety, battery limits, the resistance of the various wires, the coils you can make, and how the ways you set them up in an RDA affect the resistance of these coils.

Additionally, when you finally do start buying stuff don't start with the mod, the RDA, the batteries, the wire, the screwdrivers, tweezers, cotton, or juice. Start with the battery charger and ohm meter.

These two are what you need first when you start making your kit. Don't cheep out on these or the batteries. Get the good stuff from the right place. Xtar and Nitecore are good chargers. Don't waste your money on Efest (or Efan or Imran) stuff. Also, this is the best ohm meter out there.

I'm not going to tell you what else to get yet. Go. Study. Do your homework. Figure out what you want out of all of this and how to get it. Then we can help you out.

 

[OBDave]

Okay OP first of all, all of this talk about mech mods and clouds is good and all, but what you need to do first is read up on ohms law, battery safety, battery limits, the resistance of the various wires, the coils you can make, and how the ways you set them up in an RDA affect the resistance of these coils.

Additionally, when you finally do start buying stuff don't start with the mod, the RDA, the batteries, the wire, the screwdrivers, tweezers, cotton, or juice. Start with the battery charger and ohm meter.

These two are what you need first when you start making your kit. Don't cheep out on these or the batteries. Get the good stuff from the right place. XStar and Nitecore are good chargers. Don't waste your money on Efest (or Efan or Imran) stuff. Also, this is the best ohm meter out there.

I'm not going to tell you what else to get yet. Go. Study. Do your homework. Figure out what you want out of all of this and how to get it. Then we can help you out.

This, except for the fact that although the Efest batteries can sometimes be dangerously misleading and I no longer buy them, I've had a good experience with my LUC v4 charger that replaced my Nitecore i2 (also a good choice).

 

[Number3124]

This, except for the fact that although the Efest batteries can sometimes be dangerously misleading and I no longer buy them, I've had a good experience with my LUC v4 charger that replaced my Nitecore i2 (also a good choice).

Xtars are great. I love my Nitecore D2. The D4s I've heard are a little dodgy in regards to how the extra two slots are configured. I've heard good things about LUCs. I've also heard that a lot of the extra features don't really work. I've never dealt with a LUC so, really, I can't say for sure. I just know that I don't trust Efest.

 

[OBDave]

Xtars are great. I love my Nitecore D2. The D4s I've heard are a little dodgy in regards to how the extra two slots are configured. I've heard good things about LUCs. I've also heard that a lot of the extra features don't really work. I've never dealt with a LUC so, really, I can't say for sure. I just know that I don't trust Efest.

If I had it to do over I'd get an Xtar, and I will next time...but for now 4 chargers is plenty, if not overkill (I also bought an i2 and LUC 4 for the wife, all are still going strong).

 

[samooo1994]

This, except for the fact that although the Efest batteries can sometimes be dangerously misleading and I no longer buy them, I've had a good experience with my LUC v4 charger that replaced my Nitecore i2 (also a good choice).

Why are efest batteries dangerously misleading? great! That's the battery they told me to get down at the vape shop, I got efest imr 3.8v 2100 mah 30a

 

[Mike H.]

Why are efest batteries dangerously misleading? great! That's the battery they told me to get down at the vape shop, I got efest imr 3.8v 2100 mah 30a

The 2100 is more than likely a re wrapped vtc4 which hopefully is not a clone if they are out there.

The efest 2500 35A is a re wrapped LG HE2 battery but its not 35amps as advertised on the fancy purple wrapper..this is a burst rating...so it tricks people into thinking its 35 amps and safe to run a .2 ohm coil with...and its not...its 20 amps with a 35 amp burst for a very short period of time...I own and use one of these batteries in regulated devices.

The efest 3100 35amp battery is...Are you ready for this?..6 amps...yes, i said 6 amps...i feel sorry for the guy who sub ohms with this battery...Probably awesome in a flashlight though.

Efest and many other battery companies lie to sell batteries which can and will potentially hurt people becuase they dont know any better.

Theres only 5 battery manufacturers really...Sony, Samsung, panasonic,Sanyo and LG....Any other name you see are most likely re wraps of one of these cells and mark up price of a battery you can buy for less money...Those fancy labels arent free.

I just recently saw where efest is coming out with a new battery claiming 38 amps...Well the big picture with safety is what a battery puts out at a maximum continuous discharge...Not what one can "burst" for a half a second...The labels are misleading from efest and many other names selling batteries.

Heres a list of batteries to consider.

Sony VTC3 (True 30 amps)
Sony VTC4 (True 30 amps)
Samsung 25R (True 20 amps)
LG HE2 (True 20 amps)

In my opinion ,everything else is bullshit and over priced.

 

[samooo1994]

The 2100 is more than likely a re wrapped vtc4 which hopefully is not a clone if they are out there.

The efest 2500 35A is a re wrapped LG HE2 battery but its not 35amps as advertised on the fancy purple wrapper..this is a burst rating...so it tricks people into thinking its 35 amps and safe to run a .2 ohm coil with...and its not...its 20 amps with a 35 amp burst for a very short period of time...I own and use one of these batteries in regulated devices.

The efest 3100 35amp battery is...Are you ready for this?..6 amps...yes, i said 6 amps...i feel sorry for the guy who sub ohms with this battery...Probably awesome in a flashlight though.

Efest and many other battery companies lie to sell batteries which can and will potentially hurt people becuase they dont know any better.

Theres only 5 battery manufacturers really...Sony, Samsung, panasonic,Sanyo and LG....Any other name you see are most likely re wraps of one of these cells and mark up price of a battery you can buy for less money...Those fancy labels arent free.

I just recently saw where efest is coming out with a new battery claiming 38 amps...Well the big picture with safety is what a battery puts out at a maximum continuous discharge...Not what one can "burst" for a half a second...The labels are misleading from efest and many other names selling batteries.

Heres a list of batteries to consider.

Sony VTC3 (True 30 amps)
Sony VTC4 (True 30 amps)
Samsung 25R (True 20 amps)
LG HE2 (True 20 amps)

In my opinion ,everything else is bullshit and over priced.

My efest battery has on it a anti counterfeit sticker, does that mean it's true 30 amps and safe

 

[samooo1994]

Here it is

 

[OBDave]

My efest battery has on it a anti counterfeit sticker, does that mean it's true 30 amps and safe

No, it does not. I hope you're using it in a regulated device for your own safety.

 

[Number3124]

My efest battery has on it a anti counterfeit sticker, does that mean it's true 30 amps and safe

No. That's just more marketing. Efest is a Chinese company. They aren't beholden to any US consumer protection laws. They can just print whatever the hell they want on a battery wrap and get away with it.

 

[samooo1994]

It seems to be working fine but I guess I'll have to get new battery what is the cheapest but no really cheap battery? Plus my multimeter ohm reading keeps going from 0.38 to 0.50... any reason why this is happening ?

 

[OBDave]

It seems to be working fine but I guess I'll have to get new battery what is the cheapest but no really cheap battery? Plus my multimeter ohm reading keeps going from 0.38 to 0.50... any reason why this is happening ?

What device are you using?

 

[samooo1994]

Nemesis clone with freakshow atty

 

[OBDave]

Bad idea - great mech for when you're ready, but at this point I'm hesitant to give any more advice and would advise sticking with something regulated...you can get to 50 watts on a single-battery device, which should be more than plenty to start, or go dual battery and go to 100 safely. Key word: safely.

 

[Number3124]

Agreed. Put that Freakshow on something regulated and come back to mechs once you've fully mastered building. There's no reason to risk it with a mech if you aren't sure anymore. Especially when a good regulated device can be had for the price of a comparable mech.

 

[Mike H.]

If you keep your ohms at .5 you should be ok battery wise if its a true 20 amp...I cant confirm the 2100 efest is in fact a sony vtc4 re wrap so i wont say its ok...If it is a vtc4 and its authentic then it is a true 30 amps..Again i cant confirm that so the answer is no for now on the efest

The other issue with a mech tube mod is the firing switches...Regular routine maintenance and cleaning are necessary but this still doesn't eliminate possible shorting if you dont catch a problem before it happens..which is the dangerous part...The same goes with your freakshow rda or any rda, tank, cheap clearomizer etc.....A simple mistake can be a big problem with no safety features of a mech tube mod.

If you MUST HAVE a mechanical mod then check out the Dovpo GX200 box...This has alot of safety features built in to make it a much safer device to use...You need 2 batteries however but they are wired in parallel which will give you double the battery life you get now with a single 18650.

You can still use your .3 ohm coils with this if im not mistaken.

They run about $35 dollars and up unless you wanna wait a month to get one from china which you can get for less than 30 dollars.

Its really a nice box for the money and this is something im looking at myself as i dont care to risk using a normal tube mod.

Pick up some Sony VTC4 batteries to use with it and dont use them in anything else but the box mod...youll have 4200 mah of battery life.

Im personally gonna use 2 Samsung 25R's (True 20 amp) as i dont plan to go below .4 ohms and want that extra piece of mind...5000mah

 

[samooo1994]

If you keep your ohms at .5 you should be ok battery wise if its a true 20 amp...I cant confirm the 2100 efest is in fact a sony vtc4 re wrap so i wont say its ok...If it is a vtc4 and its authentic then it is a true 30 amps..Again i cant confirm that so the answer is no for now on the efest

The other issue with a mech tube mod is the firing switches...Regular routine maintenance and cleaning are necessary but this still doesn't eliminate possible shorting if you dont catch a problem before it happens..which is the dangerous part...The same goes with your freakshow rda or any rda, tank, cheap clearomizer etc.....A simple mistake can be a big problem with no safety features of a mech tube mod.

If you MUST HAVE a mechanical mod then check out the Dovpo GX200 box...This has alot of safety features built in to make it a much safer device to use...You need 2 batteries however but they are wired in parallel which will give you double the battery life you get now with a single 18650.

You can still use your .3 ohm coils with this if im not mistaken.

They run about $35 dollars and up unless you wanna wait a month to get one from china which you can get for less than 30 dollars.

Its really a nice box for the money and this is something im looking at myself as i dont care to risk using a normal tube mod.

Pick up some Sony VTC4 batteries to use with it and dont use them in anything else but the box mod...youll have 4200 mah of battery life.

Im personally gonna use 2 Samsung 25R's (True 20 amp) as i dont plan to go below .4 ohms and want that extra piece of mind...5000mah

Will I still get big dense clouds off a Dovpo GX200 box, the same as my nemesis? Coul they even go bigger if I can go down to 0.2 on the Dovpo GX200 box?

 

[Mike H.]

The dovpo has a 20 amp max operating limit which isnt no slouch cloud wise..and a 30 amp cut off for safety...so probably so...Watch some youtube vids on the dovpo.

Do yourself a favor and start a .5 ohm and learn...Theirs more to it than just an ohm rating to blow clouds...Dont get ahead of yourself.

 

[OBDave]

Okay, OP still doesn't understand the basics of batteries and is already demanding to go down to .2 ohm...that's it, I'm tapping out here.

Don't try this at home, kids...

 

[Eric DeCastro]

i suggest getting someone to build you a dual battery box with a mosfet that way you won't blow your face up with you vape below .2ohms which in my opinion is super low already. please do more research, you will find your answer out there and be safe.

 

[Number3124]

Deep breaths. It'll be fine. You don't need to go Slim Shady on this guy...

YES YOU DO!!!!

fine...

Will I still get big dense clouds off a Dovpo GX200 box, the same as my nemesis? Coul they even go bigger if I can go down to 0.2 on the Dovpo GX200 box?

Alright. Listen. We've been trying to be fucking patient. We've been trying to take you through this and tell you that you aren't going to get instant gratification. you aren't going to be cloud comp king. We're telling you this because we don't want to think that some guy took our advice but didn't know enough to do it safely and now has one hand and no face because of it. It's the kind of thing that makes people stay up at night. Assuming they aren't insomniacs like myself.

Take a step back and look at this thread kid.

We're telling you to reign it in. We're telling you to realize that you really don't know what you're doing yet. We're telling you that you need to start slow. You're going to crawl with tanks and eGo batteries. You're going to walk with RTAs and regulated mods. Once you can rebuild a Russian or a Kayfun with you're eyes closed while upside down and hit the ohms dead on the motherfucking mark you can get your RDA and mech mod. You'll have your fucking big boy pants and you can jerk off in them all day long.

Go ahead. Get a mech. Put a 0.2 ohm quad coil in... I don't know. A Patriot RDA or something. Oh, and get Trustfire batteries. 0.2 ohms only draws what... 21 amps right? That's only... 16 amps more than a Trustfire can supply, but it's easy right? It's easy to build in an RDA and use a mech. Obviously, that's what you want to do right out of the gate.

Fucking a, it's only 11AM and I need a fucking drink. Scotch, I'm coming for you baby. Don't ever leave me. Ever.

 

[Slicknic]

OP, enjoy the journey because that is where the joy is, not the destination you think you seek.
Don't look for personal satisfaction in others impressions. No one should feel they need another’s
approval to be content with themselves. The opinion that matters most is your own.

 

[Robert B]

Sounds like a kid who only wants to do vape tricks he's seen on youtube

 

[WARCHOP37]

Sounds like someone who wants to end up in the ER and on the nightly news. Seems like everyone has been trying to steer him in the right direction, but hey, you can lead a horse to water...

 

[scarecrowjenkins]

If you're going to be insistent then get that box. At least it has some manner of protection. And get your speech ready for the darwin awards

 

[Mike H.]

Dovpo GX200 plus .4 ohm atty plus dual Samsung 25R's = Clouds "ALL DAY"...Did i mention SAFELY!!!!