Where do I begin again

[Boyblue]

I began making my own juice a decade ago. I got good enough that I stopped buying store bought for a couple years. I eventually got busy and quit. Now my niece is into it and asked me to help her. The first place I went was Heartland Vapes and I find out that they no longer exist.

First question is where do I get quality ingrediants?
Should I stick with what I know and that is freebase nicotine, or should I read up on nic salt? What is the gain?
I started mixing by volume then switched to weight, is weight the way mixing is mostly done now?
Is nicotine derrived from tobacco still ok or are there better options?
I started with 70/30 mixes, moved to 80/20 and was considering 100% VG when I stopped, what the most popular now?
I see there are now concentrated flavorings. Is there any benefit to using them?

Thank you for any input

 

[Jimi]

Well welcome back, IMHO Bull City is the best place to get most everything you want except Nicotine. There are places to still get Nic. but I am not sure where now, most of us seen this comin and stocked heavily.
Let me get @gopher_byrd he might know.
But anyway good to see you back

 

[gopher_byrd]

I have no idea as to where to buy nic now, as @Jimi said, most of us have enough for life. I never got into nic salts so I can't help there.
My favorite flavor company is Flavorah which is an ultra concentrate and it is carried at Bull City. I can make ejuice with just 2 to 5% flavoring total so there are less compounds in the juice.
I mix by weight and always have.
I still mix 70/30 and some max VG, it just depends.

 

[Boyblue]

It's good to be back, I enjoyed comming up with recipes. My best two were Bread Pudding and I had a coffee the I really enjoyed. I found these guys https://liquidnicotinewholesalers.com/ but they only sell to businesses in the U.S. I can ask a friend to purchase it, is $155 a good price for a gallon of 100mg?

It seems most folks in my neck of the woods prefer iced juice, I hate it. Is it ok to add something like WS-23 after I've perfected a recipe?

BTW how did we let them get away with that lie that the sweet stuff was targeting kids? All I've ever vaped is fruits and desserts!

 

[Heartsdelight]

Not too sure if the price is good or not but a gallon would last a long while & if it’s the only place to purchase.

I just checked Nicbase.com that sells Delosi Labs & if you can get a gallon for $155 it would be a great price. You can check to see.

indeed you can add WS-23 to a recipe. I would include it in the ejuice calculater.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Hello @Boyblue

It's good of you to help your niece along her cig quit journey.

I don't want to naysay anybody who has already replied to you. Definitely check out all of the options that have been mentioned.

I don't know of anywhere you can buy 100 percent pure liquid nicotine without retailer credentials, but for high nic concentration liquids for DIY my go-to is perfectvape.com. They have regular and salt, and you can choose your nic concentration and your pg/vg ratio. A gallon is 80.72, but you don't have to buy that much. 4 oz. is the smallest. They used to have 100 mg but many retailers have stopped it, in fear of getting shut down. I do see some replies above already, with sources for the 100 mg concentration.

PV also offers flavor concentrates, Capella, Flavor West and other brands. With that your niece can learn to divide the higher concentration nic and add it to plain pg, vg or pg/vg non-nic liquid to more cheaply create her own mixes at her preferred nic level.

I think my best advice, in choosing between regular and salt, is to think of the combination that worked for you in starting up, and in keeping off cigarettes. Go with that, and your niece can experiment more later, once she has become comfortable with her equipment and supplies, and vapes easily and confidently.

But honestly, for me it's just easier to buy liquid I can vape out of the bottle. I get 32 oz. PV bulk eliquid, 12 mg. nic, 80/20 pg/vg, for 89.22. That's a quart. PV also has all of the smaller bottles and spout caps, to offload to for easier use. The only thing they don't ever seem to have is needle tip caps, but you can get those anywhere, even on Ebay.

I have hoarded bottles of 100 mg. and even one bottle of 1000 mg (pure liquid nic) in the fridge, toward the day of the total nic ban, which some politician on a soapbox is always raising a fist about, but other than that I compare the price of conventional vaping right out of the bottle to the cost of cigarettes, and I'm good without the spills, the fails, the "what did I do wrong". DIY is good though, self reliance.

Also good for niece to know, ohms laws, to stay safe in using open systems:

 

[Boyblue]

All of my old recipes are for 100mg, It's no big deal to convert but it's a big price difference for the premixed formulations, when import cost multiplys our landed cost. The aim is to help my niece to master the craft and eventually produce a world class product that can be sold locally and to tourist.