I have yet to find a more accurate, usable or better built ("factory") device than the SXMini's. My G Class is the only mod I use anymore. Everything else is obsolete.
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Yihi vs DNA for reliability and quality?
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Can your sx550j do TC nichrome? Because DNA does
why would I want tc nichrome? 250w ramp only .2v lower than sx550j and 0 burnt hits. Getting a sx500 myself but DNA will give you a more powerful converter 28 to 55/60 vs sx550j 30 to 50.
Sure it will, punch in the TCR. If you need 3 cell power (voltage*current) then you need 3 cells.Can your sx550j do TC nichrome? Because DNA doeswhy would I want tc nichrome? 250w ramp only .2v lower than sx550j and 0 burnt hits. Getting a sx500 myself but DNA will give you a more powerful converter 28 to 55/60 vs sx550j 30 to 50.
why would I want tc nichrome? 250w ramp only .2v lower than sx550j and 0 burnt hits. Getting a sx500 myself but DNA will give you a more powerful converter 28 to 55/60 vs sx550j 30 to 50.
I think you'll be impressed by the 500J, let us know your thoughts. A colleague has 3 cell DNA 250, needed a loaner, borrowed my ML Class (single cell 350JV2), he bought a G Class the next day. I had pushed him toward the DNA as he's a tinkerer, good with software, knows what he's after. I asked him why the switch? His response, "comparatively, the DNA is laughable". But he's not trying to hit the current limiter either.
I still use my SX mini m class after almost two years. I have had at least two DNA mods poop out on me in that time. Don't tell me it is build quality when the chip dies. I do have a broscience 3s lipo DNA 250 and yes, it works flawlessly. Without using any online software. So I don't know which is better TBH. Is the FSK chip better than both the DNA or Yihi? My G2 keeps soldiering on.
I generally expect mods to eventually give out on me. When you buy a car you give it up after a number of years as parts start costing more than a new car would. I don't know why people think a 200 dollar device should last forever with constant use.
I generally expect mods to eventually give out on me. When you buy a car you give it up after a number of years as parts start costing more than a new car would. I don't know why people think a 200 dollar device should last forever with constant use.
On that the fire button on G class is 30,000 clicks or 4 years at 200 clicks/day then it will die according to YiHi. Will do, shipping date keeps being pushed back due to factory issues then report to supplier and it gets delayed again. I have ran a couple times into min resistance problems with ipv8 with ss and ni builds under 0.05 so hopefully it will work. According to gtrs the sx500 is in a different league than sx420. Daniels "review" was a joke tbh... I'm extremely curious about why everyone is going nuts on the G, this is 8v vs 9.5v 3% less efficient, it's sx500-01 btw, but since personally power mode is never used the 120J 18a input limit on temp mode works, should be same as G class just no Eco mode and s1 replace that. I don't know how it can be better than DNA when both read .0000 unless they used 21 points for their TC presets then that's more accurate than 8... will post somewhere mid oct for sx500-01, really want to compare with dna250 specially since they cost about the same.
I have been a long time yihi user, as a matter of fact my first yihi still works (well they all do for that matter) and I bought my first one in 2015. this past month I bought my first DNA and second and third shortly after. for now I'm liking the DNA but can't say they are bullet proof yet. so reliability I would say, only because I have only used my DNA's for a less than a month, yihi.
250C is right around the corner too.. that's why I went with sx500-01, 1 of each. (Do not see the point in G class when I only use temp, always seen YiHi as vw chips) sx500-01 and sx550j should work the same in TC although not getting a G class to compare, as far as I heard the 550j is filled with bugs mods die in mid update... maybe their next year board but this one has TOO many problems, don't want to play mail tag with varitube and didn't get Q since specs on the 200 are superior and grabbed one at 55ca 11mo ago... don't like spending $200 on 120J... then again rather get vboy over dna75c. Don't favor either just which doesn't charge you a laptop price for a vape.
My Broscience cost me over 250 dollars. So it was more than a G Class. I don't think that is relevant though. I do like that Evolve stands firmly behind their products though. I just want a mod that works and looks good with any tank - including my 30mm ones. I'm not asking for the world. I'm hoping my Broscience stands the test of time. It's way too early to tell. I looked at the G Class as I already own Qmini and SX mini M class. But for now I'm passing.
I like my Lost Vape Skar after quite a bit of time and it is a DNA. But other DNAs failed me and had to be sent in for repair.
My cheap mods have stood up well too so who knows. I have 50 dollar mods still working after more than a year. I like my Speeder, my Drag, my old Sigeleis, my older IPVs. My Asmodus Minikins have yet to fail me. I love my FSKs.
We are at a point where there is a slew of choices on the market. But choice is a two edged sword. There is a lot of poor advice and misinformation on these forums. It is becoming increasing more difficult to make an informed intelligent decision.
I like my Lost Vape Skar after quite a bit of time and it is a DNA. But other DNAs failed me and had to be sent in for repair.
My cheap mods have stood up well too so who knows. I have 50 dollar mods still working after more than a year. I like my Speeder, my Drag, my old Sigeleis, my older IPVs. My Asmodus Minikins have yet to fail me. I love my FSKs.
We are at a point where there is a slew of choices on the market. But choice is a two edged sword. There is a lot of poor advice and misinformation on these forums. It is becoming increasing more difficult to make an informed intelligent decision.
Hmm, nowadays seems folks think Yihi for TC. Perhaps different back in the early days of the watts race just because they crushed everybody and then and folks overlooked their TC performance.
You heard incorrectly about bugs, there were a handful in the earliest days, long resolved, nothing major. There were a couple folks who got stuck in mid update because they didn't read the directions explaining it was a 2 part flash. All they needed to do was finish it.
550 isn't prefect but really has no problems at all. Near flawless vape. There's another firmware nearing release, think that'll be the 4th or 5th this year. Great support and their CS is very responsive. Money well spent, most goes to juice anyway in the long run.
If you take:
reliability x feature set x performance
/
cost x button presses required to operate
The Yihi's are tough to best.
Others apply their own factors for their use case. DNAs are awesome too. More choices is more better!
Either. Fans of either won't like this post.
DNA gives you more choices in form factor as they are not manufactured by the chip maker. Which also makes the quality of the complete box a crapshoot. I've had one DNA go bad (of 7) and that was the chip. Sent it to Ohio for repair, the total time from me dropping it off at the post office until I was vaping it again was less than a week.
Yihi has their highlights. For me, the M Class was my first TC device. Still have two of them and they still provide a nice vape. ML Class, I had to return one of them twice. Unpleasant experience with YiHi what with the equivalent of 'Have you turned your computer off and on'. The vendor eventually got permission to replace it. G Class, I tried two and both had their issues. Sold it off. I hear the Q Mini is a nice mod. The TC on the Yihis is nice but not DNA nice. The G Class has the old pulse/rattlesnake under stress.
Were it me (and it was/is) I'd not spend premium cash on a YiHi flagship.
Why? Software is sorely lacking. How long has the G been out and how is the software? How often do they issue updates for their chips? Do you like discounts? If so, the factory warranty is void. If you do have a problem, you better hope your vendor will assist in getting the unit replaced because YiHi can be a dense as a box of rocks on any issue.
You asked about DNA/YiHi and those are MY experiences with both.
Currently though, I'm vaping a Tesla Wye and have been since it was available. Excellent TC, nice form factor, light, priced right.
DNA gives you more choices in form factor as they are not manufactured by the chip maker. Which also makes the quality of the complete box a crapshoot. I've had one DNA go bad (of 7) and that was the chip. Sent it to Ohio for repair, the total time from me dropping it off at the post office until I was vaping it again was less than a week.
Yihi has their highlights. For me, the M Class was my first TC device. Still have two of them and they still provide a nice vape. ML Class, I had to return one of them twice. Unpleasant experience with YiHi what with the equivalent of 'Have you turned your computer off and on'. The vendor eventually got permission to replace it. G Class, I tried two and both had their issues. Sold it off. I hear the Q Mini is a nice mod. The TC on the Yihis is nice but not DNA nice. The G Class has the old pulse/rattlesnake under stress.
Were it me (and it was/is) I'd not spend premium cash on a YiHi flagship.
Why? Software is sorely lacking. How long has the G been out and how is the software? How often do they issue updates for their chips? Do you like discounts? If so, the factory warranty is void. If you do have a problem, you better hope your vendor will assist in getting the unit replaced because YiHi can be a dense as a box of rocks on any issue.
You asked about DNA/YiHi and those are MY experiences with both.
Currently though, I'm vaping a Tesla Wye and have been since it was available. Excellent TC, nice form factor, light, priced right.
Clearly folks have had different experiences & likes / dislikes with devices but I'll try to stick with the OP original post on "Reliability and Quality" and to try to keep it kind of short I'll not go into to much depth of every aspect on the pro's & con's I've experienced.
I've had 2 DNA devices and both had problems. DNA 30 always had a false weak battery warning although it would go away and would produce vapor as expected it worked fine aside from that. The DNA 40 was widely reported to have issues with scrambled screens so I had no interest or experience with that model board.
When the DNA 200 came out I bought into the hype so I bought one. I was never really happy with it as it was inconsistent in (TC) vaping sometimes to hot after "refinement" when going outdoors & sometimes jumping out of TC and displaying ---F as if switching to power mode when it decided my tc build was not tc. Charging was inconsistent as well sometimes charging at almost 1 amp when all 3 cells were fully charged @ 4.20v, when specified it should have only charged at 500mv maximum while connected to pc. It was also over discharged possibly due to known bugged firmware when I received it. A few months after purchase it died mid vape. I sent it in and after about 3 weeks I received it back with a new pcb in it. The pcb was installed incorrectly as well as the OLED, so after 3 weeks without it I ended up having to take it apart and install the components correctly myself. I attributed the failure to the boards deficient control of the input current in my device as it was a blown fuse like I've read about with many others.
(off topic but relevant to the OP)
I later read the Designer / Co-owner of Evolv had a degree in mechanical engineering, https://www.khlaw.com/webfiles/Evolution_Evapor.pdf which shed light to me perhaps as to why there seemed to always be a lot of reported problems with the DNA boards. An electronic engineer in general would be better suited and trained in the design of electronics than a mechanical engineer would be imo.
I've had 6 Yihi devices, One Sx350 60W, two Sx350j, two Sx350J-V2 and one Sx550j powered device. I've never had a hardware problem with any of them so I've never had to send one back for repair in comparison. I have sent one back to the vendor for repair or replacement on poor finish and a new one was shipped back to me within a little over a week. Every version Yihi board that I've owned has performed flawlessly and consistently vape after vape for a few years now. I set it up how I want it and it does exactly what I set it to do time after time. Ease of use, consistency, reliability and accuracy has been my experience with Yihi powered devices. Not saying there aren't quirks like there are with many chipsets but functionally I can expect to get a great vape every single time.
So from my personal experience and using some of my other devices as comparison (Sigelei, Wismec, clones) for an average rating the DNA was below average for both quality and reliability. The inconsistent vaping performance and charging issues mentioned, along with several issues not mentioned, and the hard failure I experienced put them below average for me.
Using the same devices as comparison to the Yihi powered devices they've all been 100% "Reliable" so above average for reliability. And for "Quality" they've been above average. The Yihi boards accuracy, consistency, reliability and ease of use put them above average for me. (far above)
I've had 2 DNA devices and both had problems. DNA 30 always had a false weak battery warning although it would go away and would produce vapor as expected it worked fine aside from that. The DNA 40 was widely reported to have issues with scrambled screens so I had no interest or experience with that model board.
When the DNA 200 came out I bought into the hype so I bought one. I was never really happy with it as it was inconsistent in (TC) vaping sometimes to hot after "refinement" when going outdoors & sometimes jumping out of TC and displaying ---F as if switching to power mode when it decided my tc build was not tc. Charging was inconsistent as well sometimes charging at almost 1 amp when all 3 cells were fully charged @ 4.20v, when specified it should have only charged at 500mv maximum while connected to pc. It was also over discharged possibly due to known bugged firmware when I received it. A few months after purchase it died mid vape. I sent it in and after about 3 weeks I received it back with a new pcb in it. The pcb was installed incorrectly as well as the OLED, so after 3 weeks without it I ended up having to take it apart and install the components correctly myself. I attributed the failure to the boards deficient control of the input current in my device as it was a blown fuse like I've read about with many others.
(off topic but relevant to the OP)
I later read the Designer / Co-owner of Evolv had a degree in mechanical engineering, https://www.khlaw.com/webfiles/Evolution_Evapor.pdf which shed light to me perhaps as to why there seemed to always be a lot of reported problems with the DNA boards. An electronic engineer in general would be better suited and trained in the design of electronics than a mechanical engineer would be imo.
I've had 6 Yihi devices, One Sx350 60W, two Sx350j, two Sx350J-V2 and one Sx550j powered device. I've never had a hardware problem with any of them so I've never had to send one back for repair in comparison. I have sent one back to the vendor for repair or replacement on poor finish and a new one was shipped back to me within a little over a week. Every version Yihi board that I've owned has performed flawlessly and consistently vape after vape for a few years now. I set it up how I want it and it does exactly what I set it to do time after time. Ease of use, consistency, reliability and accuracy has been my experience with Yihi powered devices. Not saying there aren't quirks like there are with many chipsets but functionally I can expect to get a great vape every single time.
So from my personal experience and using some of my other devices as comparison (Sigelei, Wismec, clones) for an average rating the DNA was below average for both quality and reliability. The inconsistent vaping performance and charging issues mentioned, along with several issues not mentioned, and the hard failure I experienced put them below average for me.
Using the same devices as comparison to the Yihi powered devices they've all been 100% "Reliable" so above average for reliability. And for "Quality" they've been above average. The Yihi boards accuracy, consistency, reliability and ease of use put them above average for me. (far above)
I've finally received the Vboy sx500. It's easy to use but side by side to a dna200/250 the TC performance is crap, it does not give a flat temp and fluctuates all the time where as the dna250 only has a 3c overshoot this goes 3-4c up and down constantly. Only customizable feature through sxi is the wallpaper. Beautiful screen, but sx500 is no match to a dna250 when it comes to TC accuracy. Being able to modify everything from the mod is convenient but don't expect the same vape quality in TC as the DNA provides.
If the output isn't flat you may be pushing too many joules. Use nearer the minimum and preheat with a power curve.
Wow, this debate is still going on? That is like a bunch if guys arguing over a Mercedes, Audi or BMW, all fine cars, just comes down to preference.
Both the Yihi 550 and DNA250 are fine chips, just depends on user preference. As far as reliability is concerned without the true numbers who knows, my own experience is I have not had problems with either one.
I will say this, if you are a power user and enjoy a preheat or power curve then why choose a DNA mod? The SX550 chip offers so much more to a power user than a DNA, there is no arguing that.
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Both the Yihi 550 and DNA250 are fine chips, just depends on user preference. As far as reliability is concerned without the true numbers who knows, my own experience is I have not had problems with either one.
I will say this, if you are a power user and enjoy a preheat or power curve then why choose a DNA mod? The SX550 chip offers so much more to a power user than a DNA, there is no arguing that.
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I mean you can trick it to having a preheat with kanthal. But that's about it
Since my mech conversion, I sold all but 4 dna mods. They get used as ohm meters and for the occasional tank on the road. I had a few yihi boards but not a fan of their tc. The power curves on yihi are really nice, if you don't like tc. I use the curve on one of the wife's mods from time time for shits and squiggles.
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DNA's can't TC nichrome.Can your sx550j do TC nichrome? Because DNA does
Tc nichrome does work that's pretty much what the sx550j left the dna250 for. 550j is far superior than sx500 (I was happily surprised) CS is the best I've ever experienced (RGX550). Did notice the chip firing slightly higher than set temp but it's flat output, guess that 16bit really does the job, and the Bluetooth app is a plus . Overall I prefer RGX550 over dna250. Specially that I can fire full wattage until the battery reaches 3.2v (with 9.5v output) DNA 250C might be competing if they add Bluetooth, otherwise this is more responsive.
. Overall I prefer RGX550 over dna250. Specially that I can fire full wattage until the battery reaches 3.2v (with 9.5v output) DNA 250C might be competing if they add Bluetooth, otherwise this is more responsive.
I have 2 DNA75 devices from Lost Vape and 2 DNA200 Devices - 1 Lost Vape Triade and 1 Wismec Reuleaux all of which still work great after over 2 years of use. I also have a SXMINI G Class which collects dust. It looked really nice and I heard good things about the YIHI chips so I bought it. No matter what pair of 18650 batteries I put in it, at around 55% battery life it says "check battery". In my opinion the board is a POS. Mod is really nice though. If treated right, I believe the DNA is superior to the YIHI if for no other reason than I can use my DNA devices until the battery is almost dead and it still hits the same as when the batteries were fresh off the charger. If the FSK chip was put into a mod that did not suck, I would definitely try it out, but since the mod is an uncomfortable box, have not tried it yet. Just my honest opinion, YMMV!
Happy Vaping,
CV
Happy Vaping,
CV
I have 2 DNA75 devices from Lost Vape and 2 DNA200 Devices - 1 Lost Vape Triade and 1 Wismec Reuleaux all of which still work great after over 2 years of use. I also have a SXMINI G Class which collects dust. It looked really nice and I heard good things about the YIHI chips so I bought it. No matter what pair of 18650 batteries I put in it, at around 55% battery life it says "check battery". In my opinion the board is a POS. Mod is really nice though. If treated right, I believe the DNA is superior to the YIHI if for no other reason than I can use my DNA devices until the battery is almost dead and it still hits the same as when the batteries were fresh off the charger. If the FSK chip was put into a mod that did not suck, I would definitely try it out, but since the mod is an uncomfortable box, have not tried it yet. Just my honest opinion, YMMV!
Happy Vaping,
CV
Yeah, my DNA75c will still pull 3.8 volts at 50% charge, and I can enjoy over 50 watts all the way down to 15% battery. That's incredible efficiency.
I'm a power mode user only, allergic to any nickel (nichrome or stainless steel included), but I find the DNA to be my favorite to use. I actually have one of the DNA mods firebird sold (lol) works flawlessly
I also appreciate the customization - my 75C is set up to be almost mech-user friendly:
It shows the battery's current voltage instead of a charge icon or %, fun to watch it go back up after a puff to its resting voltage
My DNA250 seems pretty old, between 1-2 years, and everything still works flawlessly.
In the past month, I had 3 more mods with Evolv boards fail. I can't blame the boards this time though, it was two Li-po's, and a wire that come loose from the 510.
I replaced the Li-po in the Efusion, had to damage the panel slightly to get to the screws, and soldered back the wire on the DNA75. I need to find a Li-Po for the hotcig though.
I replaced the Li-po in the Efusion, had to damage the panel slightly to get to the screws, and soldered back the wire on the DNA75. I need to find a Li-Po for the hotcig though.
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So I just bought my first yihi chip 550j! But if we're putting it up against the DNA, any DNA chip. Evolv blows sx out the water! Of course I've only tried the 550j but they say it's there best chip so idk. Dont get me wrong it's better then the other china made chips but evolve is better it has way more customization and has way more potential to fine tune in the escribe software plus man REPLAY! Replay is something I use every m'fing day especially with my jenna! I havent really got sx's temp down either I'm following the instructions but still getting a bit of a dry hit! Just normal temp on dna is perfect where it's at! theres honostly no need for replay if your just tryna use temp especially with how much easier evolve's chip is to function! I love seeing how much hits I've gotten and also going back and reading my recordings! And I know this might seem a little bias but my juice tastes bomb a'f on replay something yihi doesnt do! One plus for sx though is it has bypass! Honestly the only thing dna doesnt have! If you have a dna mod dont even bother with sx and if your looking into which one go with evolv! It may cost a lil more but it's worth it with how much functionality you get! Not to mention the great costumer service and quality of having an American made chip!
Yeah, when Evolv introduced the C line of chips then demolished the industry with Replay......game over.
The 550J is still a top tier chip but nothing touches the DNA250C. @VapingReaper27 when using the 550J chip you have to press and hold the joystick down until the ohms are read on the screen for TC to work properly. Also be mindful of the joules, too much and you can get rattle snaking. The 550J does excellent TC when setup properly.
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The 550J is still a top tier chip but nothing touches the DNA250C. @VapingReaper27 when using the 550J chip you have to press and hold the joystick down until the ohms are read on the screen for TC to work properly. Also be mindful of the joules, too much and you can get rattle snaking. The 550J does excellent TC when setup properly.
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I have a bunch of DNA based mods, a Paranormal 250c, a Drone BF 250c, and two Therion BF 75c's. I vape 100% in temp control. I wanted to try a Yihi based mod, so I purchased a Steam Crave Hadron... hated it. The interface, the way you interacted with the settings, drove me nuts. I didn't find it intuitive AT ALL. The performance with the mod was to me, just ok-ish. Temp control I felt was poor compared to my DNAs. With escribe and custom themes you can really open up the usability of DNAs to fit how you use your device.
Just my $.02, which in this economy is worth something
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There are a slew of mods that can take Arctic Fox: Here are just some of them. Who cares if it is SW? We are talking SW.I run on my Le Petite box and it makes a huge difference. Accurate temp control, better UI, custom profiles, customization and more.
Joyetech:
- VTC Mini, VTC Dual, VTwo Mini, VTwo, AIO, Basic;
- Primo, Primo 2.0, Primo Mini, Primo Mini SE;
- eGrip II / Light;
- Cuboid, Cuboid Mini, Cuboid 200;
- Presa TC75W, Presa TC100W;
- RX75, RX200, RX200S, RX300, RX2/3, RXmini, RX GEN3, RX 20700, RX 21700;
- Sinuous P80, Predator;
- iStick TC100W, iStick TC200W, iStick QC 200W, iStick Power 80W, iStick Tria;
- Pico 75W, Pico Mega, Pico Dual, Pico RDTA, Pico 25, iStick Pico 21700;
- Aster, Elitar Pipe, iKonn220;
- Vaporflask: Classic, Lite, Stout;
- Beyondvape Centurion;
- La Petite Box;
- Vapor Shark SwitchBox RX;
The Yihi chip in the Hadron is one of the worst Yihi chips ever made, only one worse is in the Dovpo Topside Carbon.I have a bunch of DNA based mods, a Paranormal 250c, a Drone BF 250c, and two Therion BF 75c's. I vape 100% in temp control. I wanted to try a Yihi based mod, so I purchased a Steam Crave Hadron... hated it. The interface, the way you interacted with the settings, drove me nuts. I didn't find it intuitive AT ALL. The performance with the mod was to me, just ok-ish. Temp control I felt was poor compared to my DNAs. With escribe and custom themes you can really open up the usability of DNAs to fit how you use your device.
Just my $.02, which in this economy is worth something
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Arctic Fox deserves much more attention than it gets. I have 2 eleaf mods running it. Their toolbox is almost as good as escribe. Actually, in some ways it is even more powerful.
I actually need to spend more time with it.
last I looked "EScribe Suite" was SW, not HW... and besides, if you really want to use TC, then walk that extra mile and get a Dicodes. The only reason why I don't use TC is because the most accurate way to control coil temperature can only be achieved through becoming an experienced mech user, but ArcticFox is still the one best option for preheat with power curves so that is what I'll recommend to anyone who is entering the process of becoming an experienced mech user, and, if all you do is build simple coil types that let you avoid the inaccuracy problems inherent of TC, then you will be forever stuck on the outside of the complex coil universe, and then you will never understand the point about accuracy. Ever.
I have been thinking of getting a Wismec RX2 21700 or a gen3 and putting artic fox on it.
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what do you mean by 'control coil temperature can only be achieved through becoming an experienced mech user'? i have a few mechs and know ohms law just donmt know how that could be possible?
I have a Pico S and Pico Dual running it. Arctic Fox can take a bargain bin sub 10 dollar mod and turn it into a real contender. It's not the very easiest to work with (not horrible though either), but IS brain dead easy to install.
The eggheads who develop it can be a bit arrogant and dismissive on their blog, but they have frightening skills they are providing access to for free so I guess they have a right to be
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YIHI boards, especially the mainstream SX series can do great TC, but they, again especially the bargain chips, need to have the TCR and Joules settings twiddled with. I have a Vsticking VK530 and an SX Mini G Class.
The VK530 needed to have the TCR raised and several tries to get the joules right to escape the ratllesnaking on one end and weak hits on the other. Once I got it nailed, it gives good consistent, "from now on" hits every time.
With YIHI devices remember that wattage has no effect on TC. Only the joules setting effects power in TC.
The VK530 needed to have the TCR raised and several tries to get the joules right to escape the ratllesnaking on one end and weak hits on the other. Once I got it nailed, it gives good consistent, "from now on" hits every time.
With YIHI devices remember that wattage has no effect on TC. Only the joules setting effects power in TC.
Arctic fox is great but it is not a fix for some mods with weak 510 connections that will cause havoc on TC. Other hardware problems can also affect performance, software is only part of the equation.
I reviewed the Joyetech Espion and was shocked, the first joyetech mod that had fantastic TC. It was a review sample, not a general release. I purchased a second Espion in gunmetal and sold my black review sample to a friend. The gunmetal was a retail version and wow, the TC sucked on it compared to the review sample. I even had my friend bring it over so we could compare with the same TC build and yep, the review sample was still great, new one sucked. I then installed Arctic Fox on the Espion once they had software for it, big improvement but still not quite as good as the review sample, the only thing I can figure is there is a hardware problem causing it but taking it apart I could not find anything that looked damaged or a loose connection.
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I reviewed the Joyetech Espion and was shocked, the first joyetech mod that had fantastic TC. It was a review sample, not a general release. I purchased a second Espion in gunmetal and sold my black review sample to a friend. The gunmetal was a retail version and wow, the TC sucked on it compared to the review sample. I even had my friend bring it over so we could compare with the same TC build and yep, the review sample was still great, new one sucked. I then installed Arctic Fox on the Espion once they had software for it, big improvement but still not quite as good as the review sample, the only thing I can figure is there is a hardware problem causing it but taking it apart I could not find anything that looked damaged or a loose connection.
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Good points, and ones I don't have personal experience with.
When you vape on a mech with something like, for example, aliens 27/36 Ni80 at 5 wraps 2.5mm ID and .11 ohms dual coil, it doesn't take very long until you grow thoroughly accustomed to how it performs steadily. That's because you can actually feel the steadiness during every hit, from start to finish. As a result you automatically adjust the strength of your draw to control the coil temperature, similar to how you automatically counter any imbalance that you can sense when riding a bicycle... it's a trained reflex-like response that spontaneously develops through repetition and familiarization, and is reinforced with experience, or the sensitively awareness of knowing what to expect.
Thanks for reminding me though, I put a fresh build in the Fatality 25 and threw it on the Espion using artic fox and dang, nice vape
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