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Arthur

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Because you are BIASED.... and you only watch Fox News!

All your allegations came from Fox News, which is FALSE NEWS!


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yup ya got me ej ! Faux news good answer !

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so basically you don't want to discuss anything you just want to state things for the hell of it . OK that's good at least we know where your coming from !

Let the stupid flow !

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How many times do you have to repeat yourself? Don’t you get tired of saying the same shit? Let bob do his job, let him finish, like you said it’s been 2 years and they haven’t found any evidence against the TRAITOR, so what the fuck is your problem!? The traitor will win the next election bro relax!


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yup ya got me ej ! Faux news good answer !

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I watch SEAN sanity all the time bro
I told you that! That’s why when you whine and blah, I already know where you got your anger, and questions!
fucking red hatter!
How come! Stfup


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Arthur

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How many times do you have to repeat yourself? Don’t you get tired of saying the same shit? Let bob do his job, let him finish, like you said it’s been 2 years and they haven’t found any evidence against the TRAITOR, so what the fuck is your problem!? The traitor will win the next election bro relax!


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sure buddy ! Relax good answer !

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Arthur

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I watch SEAN sanity all the time bro
I told you that! That’s why when you whine and blah, I already know where you got your anger, and questions!
fucking red hatter!
How come! Stfup


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good boi ej !

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Look at how much more liberals and conservatives hate each other now, as opposed to during previous administrations. If you live in a predominately conservative area, and only pay attention to conservative news, then I can see why you fail to see the divisiveness. I'm sure that's the case with Pussape and his butt buddy.
Where I live is highly conservative, but just enough middle of the road people. Many of those middle of the road people are leaning towards being liberal now. Since Orangutan got elected, most people have developed the unwritten rule to never discuss politics. All it takes is one person to start discussing politics, and either someone will be shot, or go to jail, because of what is bound to happen upon escalation of the issues between parties.

They don’t see that! Cuz he lives in NJ


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very good ej . NJ stands for New Jersey ! Its one of our 50 states !

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Correct!
Go take your aspirin before you get another one!
Trump wouldn’t know it if you did!


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Atleast you have a gun


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now now ej not everyone has a gun ! That's profiling and we don't do that ! Just because she is from Texas she may not be a cowgirl or boy or however she chooses to identity . now stop being silly !

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now now ej not everyone has a gun ! That's profiling and we don't do that ! Just because she is from Texas she may not be a cowgirl or boy or however she chooses to identity . now stop being silly !

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I know for a fact she does have a gun!
You wanna bet?

I didn’t say any of those words you think I meant to say! That’s your way of thinking not mine!


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Arthur

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Correct!
Go take your aspirin before you get another one!
Trump wouldn’t know it if you did!


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now that was insensitive referring to my heart condition ! Many people suffer many different conditions please try to be more sensitive to others feelings on this thread . your better than that I believe in you !

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now now ej not everyone has a gun ! That's profiling and we don't do that ! Just because she is from Texas she may not be a cowgirl or boy or however she chooses to identity . now stop being silly !

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Actually, I do own a few guns, and I have the right to use them if I have to.
 

Arthur

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I know for a fact she does have a gun!
You wanna bet?

I didn’t say any of those words you think I meant to say! That’s your way of thinking not mine!


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bet ? Is gambling legal in your area ?

She should be careful if she has a gun they murder people !

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now that was insensitive referring to my heart condition ! Many people suffer many different conditions please try to be more sensitive to others feelings on this thread . your better than that I believe in you !

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Sorry sir


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Arthur

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Actually, I do own a few guns, and I have the right to use them if I have to.
but I heard they make people kill and murder ! Like those kids in school is that not true ? Can't you just call the police ! Why have such a dangerous thing ?

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bet ? Is gambling legal in your area ?

She should be careful if she has a gun they murder people !

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In California, I did shoot a guy in the leg, in self defense. In Texas, I have the right to kill in self defense. I ain't had to shoot anyone in Texas yet. See the difference when people know what can happen?
 

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bet ? Is gambling legal in your area ?

She should be careful if she has a gun they murder people !

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Send me some of that diy jooze
You lost


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but I heard they make people kill and murder ! Like those kids in school is that not true ? Can't you just call the police ! Why have such a dangerous thing ?

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Sorry for the interruption... but I think this is for me to answer......

Let’s just be clear here ok
IM NOT AGAINST THE 2nd A
I’m against guns!
Kids were murdered by guns and cops murdered the murderer..calling the police is the right thing to do because they’re more trained to murder murderers....


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In California, I did shoot a guy in the leg, in self defense. In Texas, I have the right to kill in self defense. I ain't had to shoot anyone in Texas yet. See the difference when people know what can happen?

Was he a burglar?


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Time

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Nope. The guy shot at me. He missed, but I still had the right to shoot him. Unfortunately, California law said I could not take his life.

No. Something is not right with your story.

If you could shoot him in the leg, you could shoot him in the head.
 

Lady Sarah

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No. Something is not right with your story.

If you could shoot him in the leg, you could shoot him in the head.
What you can do, and what is legal to do, are often different things. You CAN Rob a bank, but that don't make it legal, dumbass.
 

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What you can do, and what is legal to do, are often different things. You CAN Rob a bank, but that don't make it legal, dumbass.

If you can legally shoot somebody(self defense), you can shoot to kill. There is no law, California or otherwise, that says you must aim for a leg. Dumb ass.

You can either shoot, or you can't. There is no distinction about whether or not the act is deadly or where the fucking bullet goes. :rolleyes:
 

Lady Sarah

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If you can legally shoot somebody(self defense), you can shoot to kill. There is no law, California or otherwise, that says you must aim for a leg. Dumb ass.

You can either shoot, or you can't. There is no distinction about whether or not the act is deadly or where the fucking bullet goes. :rolleyes:
Wrong. Where the bullet goes is the difference between killing and wounding. California law is fucked up. Only the police there have the right to take a life. Since I don't fancy the notion of spending several years in prison, I follow the laws.
 

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Wrong. Where the bullet goes is the difference between killing and wounding. California law is fucked up. Only the police there have the right to take a life. Since I don't fancy the notion of spending several years in prison, I follow the laws.

Show me that law. ;)
 

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Look it up yourself. That way, you can't claim it's fake news.

I did. And as i already knew, you are full of bullshit. :crazy:

https://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html

California self-defense laws provide that you can't be found guilty of a violent crime that you committed in order to protect yourself, as long as your conduct was reasonable under the circumstances. 1

For purposes of the self-defense legal defense, “reasonable under the circumstances” means that you need to have:

  1. Reasonably believed that you were in imminent danger of being killed, injured, or touched unlawfully,
  2. Reasonably believed that you needed to use force to prevent that from happening, and
  3. Used no more force than was necessary to prevent that from happening.2
Moreover, thanks to California's so-called “stand your ground laws,” you are under no obligation to “retreat” – that is, to run away or try to escape – before you use self-defense to protect yourself. 3

Self-defense can be a useful legal defense to a number of California crimes, including:

  • Murder,
  • Assault with a deadly weapon,
  • Aggravated battery, and
  • Battery on a peace officer.
Examples
Here are some examples of criminal defendants who may be able to plead self-defense:

  • Bill is walking home at night when he is approached by a man holding a knife. The man demands that Bill hand over his wallet. Bill pulls out a small handgun that he carries everywhere. He shoots and kills the man. Self-defense may mean that Bill is not guilty of Penal Code 187 PC murder.
 

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Umm it it quite a bit more complex than that.
People living longer.
Let's skip the senior citizens for a moment; they've already got their "Universal / Single Payer Health Care" in the form of Medicare.

More expensive diagnostic equipment. MRI, etc
MUCH more expensive specialty drugs.
We have much better technology of all kinds now than 50 years ago. Cars are better, TVs are better, phones are better, you name it it's all better, and just about all of it costs less (in real terms) than it did then. Why is "health care" different?

Employers covering less and less of their employees HC costs.
Quick: How did it get to be normal that employers pay for health care?

Having someone else (an insurance company) pay for people's health care is part of the problem. It removes the incentive for people to care what it costs. Having someone else (employers) pay for insurance compounds the problem; then people don't even care what the insurance costs.
 

Lady Sarah

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I did. And as i already knew, you are full of bullshit. :crazy:

https://www.shouselaw.com/self-defense.html

California self-defense laws provide that you can't be found guilty of a violent crime that you committed in order to protect yourself, as long as your conduct was reasonable under the circumstances. 1

For purposes of the self-defense legal defense, “reasonable under the circumstances” means that you need to have:

  1. Reasonably believed that you were in imminent danger of being killed, injured, or touched unlawfully,
  2. Reasonably believed that you needed to use force to prevent that from happening, and
  3. Used no more force than was necessary to prevent that from happening.2
Moreover, thanks to California's so-called “stand your ground laws,” you are under no obligation to “retreat” – that is, to run away or try to escape – before you use self-defense to protect yourself. 3

Self-defense can be a useful legal defense to a number of California crimes, including:

  • Murder,
  • Assault with a deadly weapon,
  • Aggravated battery, and
  • Battery on a peace officer.
Examples
Here are some examples of criminal defendants who may be able to plead self-defense:

  • Bill is walking home at night when he is approached by a man holding a knife. The man demands that Bill hand over his wallet. Bill pulls out a small handgun that he carries everywhere. He shoots and kills the man. Self-defense may mean that Bill is not guilty of Penal Code 187 PC murder.
California is not a "stand your ground" state.
 

Time

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California is not a "stand your ground" state.

You're just gonna keep making shit up, aren't you? :rolleyes:

https://www.justia.com/criminal/docs/calcrim/500/505/

California Criminal Code #505

[A defendant is not required to retreat. He or she is entitled to stand his
or her ground and defend himself or herself
and, if reasonably
necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of (death/great bodily
injury/ <insert forcible and atrocious crime>) has passed.
This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law

The states that have adopted stand-your-ground in practice,[17] either through case law/precedent, jury instructions or by other means, are California,[18][19] Colorado,[20][21] Illinois, New Mexico, Oregon, Virginia,[22] and Washington.
 

Lady Sarah

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Look at this map. California tells you there may be a possibility you maight get away with defending yourself. In actuality, that right may only be extended to the very wealthy. When I lived there, nobody but the police had that right.
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Time

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Look at this map. California tells you there may be a possibility you maight get away with defending yourself. In actuality, that right may only be extended to the very wealthy. When I lived there, nobody but the police had that right.
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I see what the problem is. You're giving me your "opinion" about California law. I don't give a shit what your "opinion" is.

I'm not telling you my opinion. I'm showing you what the actual law is.

And no, you don't have to be rich to win in court. That's just your bigoted view of rich people speaking.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/california-self-defense-case-national/

Now 60 years old, Madrona stands 5 feet, 2 inches tall. He is a legal immigrant from the Philippines, a citizen, having arrived in the U.S. in 1979.

Unemployed, financially stressed and facing prison, Madrona needed to hire a criminal defense attorney.

On Friday, June 22, 2014, a jury of four men and eight women acquitted Madrona of all felony charges.
 

Arthur

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No. Something is not right with your story.

If you could shoot him in the leg, you could shoot him in the head.
I've been shot twice once in the leg and boy that smarts !

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