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I don't care that isn't what you posted and others see the problem but if you are not man enough to apologize fine.
You quoted me and it appears you are talking about my wicking which the picture I mentioned has none. So either you do not know what you are talking about or just can't be man enough to admit a mistake. Whatever the reason fine with me my opinion
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Okay, I'm not going to derail the challenge thread any longer. This started with you mis-quoting jwill who was quoting MY POST, not yours.
I take offense to my work being criticized and someone makes a mistake who can't admit to it. Now saying I am mistaken? Sorry can't let it slide............
Here's what I have in that exact same atomizer - wattage in the 30s with mech/unregulated squonking:
And I mean, that's actually the Same atomizer as the one in your pic...unless you bought another one, cause I bought this one from you
I dont use it much, got it out the other day to give it another try, though
Damn if that isn't two different builds~! Wow
Trolling? This has been forgotten but must keep derailing?
Just being like you and proving the point. But it's cool. And literally forgotten in 21 minutes
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No, not cool, I let it go but you keep bringing this shit up~! That's right, there is not a damn thing wrong with my wicking since the coils had NO Wicks. I am not derailing this thread the comedians are.
i vape all over the place with regard to styles/power levels/hardware. ill enter my highest and lowest powered setups and skip all the middle ones.
starting at the lowest wattage, my current favorite mtl build. this is a 3x32/42 n80 alien in a kayfun prime. it settled in at .7 ohms and i run it on an istick30w at about 28w. i have the kayfun on the tightest air, and this gives me a pretty short (up to two seconds max) and hot mtl drag, similar to my old hand rolled, filterless cigarettes i smoked since i was a kid. fast ramp-up and a good throat hit with 12 - 18mg nic. this setup is my work setup for the most part, but i often just use it as a daily banger, all by itself.
and this is my highest powered setup. it actually needs a bit of a disclaimer* for this challenge, because its 'super sub-ohm'. its a .05 ohm staggerton variant. at over 300w its a fast ramp-up and a warm vape. due to the mass of the coils, this is not as hot as some people might think it is at >300w...but it will get there pretty fast if you dont take the right puff off it. i take a stiff one to two second drag where i let go of the switch about half way through/when i feel the vape start to get hot, and i stay right in the temp range i like. i have it in a goon with 2 air holes opened and a standard 810 tip. i cant find the specs on this build, but the wire was a low resistance 'competition' wire (unknown composition) and it was .4mm ribbon and 26 gauge frames (pretty sure it was 10 x .4mm in total).
*disclaimer. i only run this build on a quad parallel box with vtc5a batteries. on this setup, .05 ohms draws about 85% of my combined cdr, or the same as a .2 ohm build would draw from a single vtc5a. only build this low if you have the hardware to do it properly. most ohm readers for vapers do not read accurately below .2 ohms, and even the 'good' ones have trouble below .1, so make sure you have a great one (usaohmmeters is the 'best' afaik, and i double check it with a hohm wrecker g2 mod)...and a solid, reliable mod with the correct battery configuration for your builds, and high quality batteries to put in it. if you have to ask/post a thread about 'is this build safe?', you need to learn more. dont do this stuff until you have no question that your resistance/batteries/coils are safe, and safely installed/configured
hopefully these two builds help to fight the misconception that 'exotic coils' have to be huge and require a ton of power, and also to show that wattage by itself means very little with regard to what kind of vape you will get. here we have an alien build at 28w that gives warm, one to two second drags, and a >300w staggerton variant that also gives warm one to two second puffs
starting at the lowest wattage, my current favorite mtl build. this is a 3x32/42 n80 alien in a kayfun prime. it settled in at .7 ohms and i run it on an istick30w at about 28w. i have the kayfun on the tightest air, and this gives me a pretty short (up to two seconds max) and hot mtl drag, similar to my old hand rolled, filterless cigarettes i smoked since i was a kid. fast ramp-up and a good throat hit with 12 - 18mg nic. this setup is my work setup for the most part, but i often just use it as a daily banger, all by itself.
and this is my highest powered setup. it actually needs a bit of a disclaimer* for this challenge, because its 'super sub-ohm'. its a .05 ohm staggerton variant. at over 300w its a fast ramp-up and a warm vape. due to the mass of the coils, this is not as hot as some people might think it is at >300w...but it will get there pretty fast if you dont take the right puff off it. i take a stiff one to two second drag where i let go of the switch about half way through/when i feel the vape start to get hot, and i stay right in the temp range i like. i have it in a goon with 2 air holes opened and a standard 810 tip. i cant find the specs on this build, but the wire was a low resistance 'competition' wire (unknown composition) and it was .4mm ribbon and 26 gauge frames (pretty sure it was 10 x .4mm in total).
*disclaimer. i only run this build on a quad parallel box with vtc5a batteries. on this setup, .05 ohms draws about 85% of my combined cdr, or the same as a .2 ohm build would draw from a single vtc5a. only build this low if you have the hardware to do it properly. most ohm readers for vapers do not read accurately below .2 ohms, and even the 'good' ones have trouble below .1, so make sure you have a great one (usaohmmeters is the 'best' afaik, and i double check it with a hohm wrecker g2 mod)...and a solid, reliable mod with the correct battery configuration for your builds, and high quality batteries to put in it. if you have to ask/post a thread about 'is this build safe?', you need to learn more. dont do this stuff until you have no question that your resistance/batteries/coils are safe, and safely installed/configured
hopefully these two builds help to fight the misconception that 'exotic coils' have to be huge and require a ton of power, and also to show that wattage by itself means very little with regard to what kind of vape you will get. here we have an alien build at 28w that gives warm, one to two second drags, and a >300w staggerton variant that also gives warm one to two second puffs
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Damn~! Freaking nice push the limits (safely) build~!
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i vape all over the place with regard to styles/power levels/hardware. ill enter my highest and lowest powered setups and skip all the middle ones.
starting at the lowest wattage, my current favorite mtl build. this is a 3x32/42 n80 alien in a kayfun prime. it settled in at .7 ohms and i run it on an istick30w at about 28w. i have the kayfun on the tightest air, and this gives me a pretty short (up to two seconds max) and hot mtl drag, similar to my old hand rolled, filterless cigarettes i smoked since i was a kid. fast ramp-up and a good throat hit with 12 - 18mg nic. this setup is my work setup for the most part, but i often just use it as a daily banger, all by itself.
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and this is my highest powered setup. it actually needs a bit of a disclaimer* for this challenge, because its 'super sub-ohm'. its a .05 ohm staggerton variant. at over 300w its a fast ramp-up and a warm vape. due to the mass of the coils, this is not as hot as some people might think it is at >300w...but it will get there pretty fast if you dont take the right puff off it. i take a one to two second drag where i let go of the switch about half way through/when i feel the vape start to get hot, and i stay right in the temp range i like. i have it in a goon with 2 air holes opened and a standard 810 tip. i cant find the specs on this build, but the wire was a low resistance 'competition' wire (unknown composition) and it was .4mm ribbon and 26 gauge frames (pretty sure it was 10 x .4mm in total).
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*disclaimer. i only run this build on a quad parallel box with vtc5a batteries. on this setup, .05 ohms draws about 85% of my combined cdr, or the same as a .2 ohm build would draw from a single vtc5a. only build this low if you have the hardware to do it properly. most ohm readers for vapers do not read accurately below .2 ohms, and even the 'good' ones have trouble below .1, so make sure you have a great one (usaohmmeters is the 'best' afaik, and i double check it with a hohm wrecker g2 mod)...and a solid, reliable mod with the correct battery configuration for your builds, and high quality batteries to put in it. if you have to ask/post a thread about 'is this build safe?', you need to learn more. dont do this stuff until you have no question that your resistance/batteries/coils are safe, and safely installed/configured
hopefully these two builds help to fight the misconception that 'exotic coils' have to be huge and require a ton of power, and also to show that wattage by itself means very little with regard to what kind of vape you will get. here we have an alien build at 28w that gives warm, one to two second drags, and a >300w staggerton variant that also gives warm one to two second puffs
Great write up mate especially drawing attention to the safety first aspect! bet those staggs create some pretty big plumage haha
I love that stag man. Great build and colori vape all over the place with regard to styles/power levels/hardware. ill enter my highest and lowest powered setups and skip all the middle ones.
starting at the lowest wattage, my current favorite mtl build. this is a 3x32/42 n80 alien in a kayfun prime. it settled in at .7 ohms and i run it on an istick30w at about 28w. i have the kayfun on the tightest air, and this gives me a pretty short (up to two seconds max) and hot mtl drag, similar to my old hand rolled, filterless cigarettes i smoked since i was a kid. fast ramp-up and a good throat hit with 12 - 18mg nic. this setup is my work setup for the most part, but i often just use it as a daily banger, all by itself.
View attachment 122861
and this is my highest powered setup. it actually needs a bit of a disclaimer* for this challenge, because its 'super sub-ohm'. its a .05 ohm staggerton variant. at over 300w its a fast ramp-up and a warm vape. due to the mass of the coils, this is not as hot as some people might think it is at >300w...but it will get there pretty fast if you dont take the right puff off it. i take a stiff one to two second drag where i let go of the switch about half way through/when i feel the vape start to get hot, and i stay right in the temp range i like. i have it in a goon with 2 air holes opened and a standard 810 tip. i cant find the specs on this build, but the wire was a low resistance 'competition' wire (unknown composition) and it was .4mm ribbon and 26 gauge frames (pretty sure it was 10 x .4mm in total).
View attachment 122865
*disclaimer. i only run this build on a quad parallel box with vtc5a batteries. on this setup, .05 ohms draws about 85% of my combined cdr, or the same as a .2 ohm build would draw from a single vtc5a. only build this low if you have the hardware to do it properly. most ohm readers for vapers do not read accurately below .2 ohms, and even the 'good' ones have trouble below .1, so make sure you have a great one (usaohmmeters is the 'best' afaik, and i double check it with a hohm wrecker g2 mod)...and a solid, reliable mod with the correct battery configuration for your builds, and high quality batteries to put in it. if you have to ask/post a thread about 'is this build safe?', you need to learn more. dont do this stuff until you have no question that your resistance/batteries/coils are safe, and safely installed/configured
hopefully these two builds help to fight the misconception that 'exotic coils' have to be huge and require a ton of power, and also to show that wattage by itself means very little with regard to what kind of vape you will get. here we have an alien build at 28w that gives warm, one to two second drags, and a >300w staggerton variant that also gives warm one to two second puffs
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yeah i wanted to really drive that home because its not a normal or casual way to vape. and yeah the clouds are ok i guess
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That’s a different one..Here's what I have in that exact same atomizer - wattage in the 30s with mech/unregulated squonking:
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And I mean, that's actually the Same atomizer as the one in your pic...unless you bought another one, cause I bought this one from you
I dont use it much, got it out the other day to give it another try, though
I kept one with sentimental value
So since I just got done building I'll jump in on this one for science. Lol just built some framed staples but that's not my normal. I usually vape dual fused claptons in most of my mods. I use everything really. MTL pods, MTL billet,DL, restricted dl. Wide open airflow for series builds. Usually aim for between.19 and .25 ohm builds. For my single coil builds which used to be all the time were triple core fused Clapton. I still aim for the same ohm range always. Just so I stay in the correct range for my batteries.
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W00t! Lovin the coil pics and descriptions of what and how users are doin with their stuff. That bein said, I guess I should ask the first questions as I am just now wigglin my way into RTAs and away from premade coils.
How can people vape at such low wattage? I am vapin at 100+ and it baffles me people can enjoy a 20+ hit.
People vapin in the 20-50 range, are your clouds the same as someone over 100?
What coils would be good at quick ramp up but can handle 100+ wattage?
Gonna be a day or two before I can put my new coils in a new Rimfire I got the other day. Still plannin to buy a Glaz in the future but my FreeMax Pro RTA needs a break. Will post up soon hopefully.
How can people vape at such low wattage? I am vapin at 100+ and it baffles me people can enjoy a 20+ hit.
People vapin in the 20-50 range, are your clouds the same as someone over 100?
What coils would be good at quick ramp up but can handle 100+ wattage?
Gonna be a day or two before I can put my new coils in a new Rimfire I got the other day. Still plannin to buy a Glaz in the future but my FreeMax Pro RTA needs a break. Will post up soon hopefully.
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Lol...
when some of us started vaping, the standard was 1.5-2.5 ohms at 10-12w.
My first mod wouldn’t fire below a 1.2 ohm coil and maxed out at 12w or 6v and had (I think) a 7a limit.
To answer the question, no they are not the same clouds. Vaping that way is more or less close to what a cigarette would do.
The cloud chasing of the era was anywhere from a 0.5ohm load to a 0.8 ohm load on a mech mod(because regulated mods that could fire that low didn’t exist yet) with a 12-15a battery.
We used 26g round wire microcoils.
If you were really daring you used 24g.
Building that low, we could direct lung hit, it it was nothing like firing a 0.1 Clapton build on a mech.
I think we were more concerned with just staying off the cigs.
Now we have all sorts of different vaping. Some like the higher resistance builds closer to a cig. Others like the crazy low builds and high power.
Personally I like both depending on mood. Sometimes it’s nice to kick back and vape something that reminds me more of a cigar than a rowdy build.
I get some seriously Thick clouds at 20w, bro
Seriously I do, they're just mouth-sized instead of lung-sized
You can bump the flavor and nicotine quite a bit and get an enjoyable vape yep (imo)
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Some of my lower power builds...
I would run these about 20-22w
Single 26g claptoned with 32g or 34g ss316
This one gets a whopping 50w being it’s a simple 24g round wire build
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Some of my lower power builds...
I would run these about 20-22w
Single 26g claptoned with 32g or 34g ss316
This one gets a whopping 50w being it’s a simple 24g round wire build
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I like single coil squonking with Goon 1.5s - this is 0.35 ohms, crackles at 44 watts
I only vape kanthal because nickel hurts my throat - I mess around with SS430 for experiments but haven't given it a good long time of vaping yet
(This is 4x 29g kanthal)
I only vape kanthal because nickel hurts my throat - I mess around with SS430 for experiments but haven't given it a good long time of vaping yet
(This is 4x 29g kanthal)
My rta go to build is a single coil 316l ss tri core fc 3mm 5-7 wrap. .3-.43 resistance is where my sweet spot falls, 23-27w on these coils depending on juice and atty. For single coil rda I prefer ss staggered fc or alien 3 or 4 core. Same dimensions and wraps as the rta builds.1.5-.3 is about where these usually land. Wattage varies by mood and af. I primarily use AVS wire and prebuilts. My style of draw is dl or rl, prefer 510 dt for rta and surprisingly prefer a 810 on the Recurve rda; 510 for the dpro mini. All my devices are dual 18650, Therions are my first love. Also have a Paranormal and Exus Ark in rotation. Favorite rta is still the Engine Nano; Intake and Pharaoh mini are also currently in rotation.
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Tri core is 30gx3/38g. Pharaoh mini has a quad core fc ss 6 wrap 30gx4/40g .33 30w with 60w punch (was feeling rowdy yesterday).
Letitia do you have to increase the flavour concentrate %? just wondering whether the lower wattage with this coil type affects it
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I used to be much like that Omaga when I was on the old TFV8 beast tanks, used to think 120W was normal haha
Thing I found was the more I messed with rebuildables and builds, more I realised I could get decent flavour/cloud hit, at a similar temp using a lower wattage.
These coils were 0.13ohm (tri core) they actually came with the fireluke so not sure on what materials and gauges were involved, but this sort of option is well worth a try for new builders wanting to dip their toe in the water without the monetary outlay (get a sub ohm with a decent RBA option)
I can't really answer that. I was already using the Nano when I started mixing. My flavor percentages have dropped over time. I think most people's does as they get used to diy. My mixes now range 4-13%. I prefer a cooler vape which why my watts are low. I almost didn’t post because I am a bit of an oddball with my preferences.
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No such thing as an oddball when it comes to personal tastes ....glad you decided to share with us
Mine are actually going up and not decreasing but I start with low percentages with my mixes and work my way up. Although some I had to cut in half do to longer aging times and they just got way too strong for me.
That's the $64,000 question.
King, I cant agree more. When my local shop offered the FreeMax RTA with their regular I jumped on it. Loved it so much I turned around and bought the silver carbon fiber Pro to match.
So far I am just now breakin into the RTA scene and piddlin around with premade coils. Though from what I gather I shouldnt have to play with exotic coils to get great flavor. I do admit, I miss my 120+ hits off my V12 CBK, and might once more when they release their mesh/strips for it. But for now I will try to stick it out and keep explorin, rotating back and forth between as low as 75 and 150.
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How can people vape at such low wattage? I am vapin at 100+ and it baffles me people can enjoy a 20+ hit.
That's the $64,000 question.
The faster it kicks you out of TC mode, the better...
Right coil in the right atomizer is how you vape at 10W or under. I was using a Nautilus Mini at 9.5W to 12W for years. But lately I am using Sub Ohm TC coil at 60W and 460-480°F for months. Just have to use it correctly, and not like you can vape at 20W with that 100W coil. really? Think about it for a minute. Right Coil and Air Flow for a set wattage.
The faster it kicks you out of TC mode, the better...
I find the exact opposite the longer I can draw without hitting the temperature the better the cloud and flavor. To each his own I guess but that is why many say this certain device doesn't work in TC. Using it wrong. IMO you should be able to time out before you reach the set temperature.
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That's the $64,000 question.
Come on Caram join in - share your favourite builds, materials and wattage ranges to help the new builders
No, I mean... people who can enjoy low wattage vaping are just a complete mystery to me, and, what I especially fail to understand is their common tendeny to religiously keep wanting to believe that I'm nothing more a wannabe flavor chaser simply for the fact I typically vape at 120+ watts. I made the instantaneous switch to vaping (i.e. without becoming a dual user first) by starting at 80 watts and taking it to 90 watts after my first vaping week. What's more, I hadn't even been vaping for a whole month yet at the time when I built my own coils for the very first time (pic below) and what that basically means is, it took me less than a month to transform myself from a cigarette smoker into a 140 watts flavor chasing MANIAC.
What you see in the pic is my Wotofo 25mm Troll RDA 2, and that I was using with the diagonal air slots 2/3 of the way open and aligned in such a way that the bottom right corners of the airflow meet the right side of each coil to account for the vortex characteristic of the airflow that typifies this RDA. The coils are positioned at the center of the airflow, at the same height as the air holes, and at a close distance from the air holes. They are staple staggered fused claptons using 25.5g Kanthal A1 for the frames, 4ply .5×.1 Kanthal A1 ribbon in between, and 36g Nichrome 80 for the wrap wire. Dual coil at 2.5mm ID, this is a .1 ohm build. Now, I guess I don't have to tell you, at 140 watts this thing is serious pl00mage. (If you've ever tried Tropika by Twelve Moneys, then you'll probably understand perfectly what "serious" here means...
) But I would be lying if I told you the flavor production wasn't fucking stunning. But yeah... my spoon...
Here's my favorite 80-100 watt range in RDAs - framed staples, these are stacks of 0.3mm kanthal ribbon and 31g SS430 frames
I think the higher gauge the outer wire is, the longer coils go without needing a cleaning because air circulates more when inhaling, and they cool faster between puffs
I think the higher gauge the outer wire is, the longer coils go without needing a cleaning because air circulates more when inhaling, and they cool faster between puffs
Those are beautiful coils.
Normally, I vape at 40W with dual stainless claptons, or at 25W with single coil. Airflow is kept at about 25%, so I get a good throat hit and full flavor. Hence, I mix my juice to my taste.
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One of my favorite low power builds.
26g kanthal, 2.5mm id.
Usually vaped about 20w.
Nothing fancy, but works and delivers a great vape. I usually use Clapton and fancy coils, but there’s nothing wrong with getting back to basics... or staying with what you like.
It’s all about whatever you need to stay off the combustible tobacco.
26g kanthal, 2.5mm id.
Usually vaped about 20w.
Nothing fancy, but works and delivers a great vape. I usually use Clapton and fancy coils, but there’s nothing wrong with getting back to basics... or staying with what you like.
It’s all about whatever you need to stay off the combustible tobacco.
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I also prefer a cooler vape
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This isn’t about how big a coil or how much power.... there’s no such thing as a best way to vape. I think it’s best to show all ways we as members here prefer. This way when newer vapors come check out the site, they won’t be pushed to stray from what they enjoy.
The variety of gear available, is available for a reason. I do think that the majority of vapors are still vaping below 30w. By that I mean those not active online; and, only pick coils and juice.
I like the idea that vaping is so inclusive of everyone that picks up a vape. From an ego pen, a 15w mod, on up to those of us using 300w+ devices.
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Exactly - or the unenlightened who don't understand why they really shouldn't vape at 200 watts just because that's what the mod can do
So true. Start low, and work your way up to what you like. No sense in getting a mouth full of super hot vapor.Exactly - or the unenlightened who don't understand why they really shouldn't vape at 200 watts just because that's what the mod can do
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Can you show off one of your squonk builds?Exactly - or the unenlightened who don't understand why they really shouldn't vape at 200 watts just because that's what the mod can do
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