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R3alJim Shady

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I'm thinking about taking the plunge... tired of buying cartridges, not getting a close enough shave, and I have a general need to tinker (ie I already rebuild my atties and DIY eliquid). Plus, I like the idea of it being a process and experience.




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I'm following this thread because my boyfriend has the same complaints.
 

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It's a big difference. You could start with some of the cheap razors from amazon with the disposable blades to make sure your comfortable enough with it before you take a plunge in to the high end razors. If you go that route make sure that the razors blade end is rounded so that you don't cut your self as easily.

Also be ready to spend some time doing it your first couple of times, I mean like 15 minutes plus.
 

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It's a big difference. You could start with some of the cheap razors from amazon with the disposable blades to make sure your comfortable enough with it before you take a plunge in to the high end razors. If you go that route make sure that the razors blade end is rounded so that you don't cut your self as easily.

Also be ready to spend some time doing it your first couple of times, I mean like 15 minutes plus.

I was thinking about the Dovo Shavette to try my hand at it, but I feel like I should just commit and grab a starter kit from whippeddog.com, not spending the money to "try" it. Seems to be recommended by everyone over at the Badger&Blade forums. $53 for a visibly flawed, but professionally honed, used razor, and strop. I figured I can get the honing stones and brush later on.


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It's all up to you buddy. What ever your more comfortable with is what's going to be best for you.
 
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I'm not young, I started with one at 14, always used one until 98, 3 months in the " meat-Locker ", couldn't shave myself for 2 months, when my wife brought my kit, they had a fit... wouldn't let me use it. Probably a good idea, I was pretty shakey from 50mg. of Predizone twice a day. A month after I got out, I just gave up shaving. Gave my three razors to my nephew. He still use's them.
 

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Look up a razor made by Hen and Rooster.
http://www.cutlerycorner.net/default.aspx?listtype=keyword&listvalue=Straight+Razor

Jim owns the Hen and Rooster brand, among many other brands. That's his site. I have never had ANYTHING made by Hen and Rooster that was bad.
Checked them out and I can't seem to find any info about what grade steel they use. All I know is that they're made in Toledo, Spain. Look like nice pieces though!


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Hen and Rooster tend to be "high end" though I don't know the grade of steel off hand either.

I'm sure you can/could buy something even better, but what will that cost be?

I can about bet paychecks, that none of the H&R will use cheap steel. IMO, these are an ok place to start.
 
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First one I got from a local barber, the other two were German steel, real pearl handles, I bought them in Hong Kong in 73.
 

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I have no doubt that H&R uses quality steel and since I don't even have a straight razor of my own, I'm certainly in no position to judge. I just wanted to know if it was carbon steel or not. Seems that's the best material to get an edge and maintain it from everything I've read.

I'll probably wind up getting a kit that comes with a used, shave-ready razor and a strop. If I buy something brand new, I'll have to go all in on a honing stone set to get edge sharp enough.

On that note, anyone have any for sale? ;)


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I own and use two Dovo straights and a Merkur 34C safety. What I recommend is to spend about 6 months with a safety until you develop "Blade Face" Most skin, especially in the jawline and neck areas are quite tender from using multi-blade and electrics. The secret to both types of razors is face prep...there are plenty of good videos on YouTube on the subject and are quite worth watching. One thing to understand...you will not get a BBS (Baby Butt Smooth) shave with a straight! You will visibly get a clean shave, but there will be perceptible stubble. After a year, you will start to get steadily improving results. Another thing that is a habit with multi blade razors is that you tend to "over shave"......with straights you do ONE pass only....after that, you are planing off skin. If you have any other questions...give me a PM :)
 

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Just make sure you have a shave pen and plenty of TP available.

And never, EVER use a side to side movement.

I feel much much more confident now , thank you my friend lol.
 

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I have no doubt that H&R uses quality steel and since I don't even have a straight razor of my own, I'm certainly in no position to judge. I just wanted to know if it was carbon steel or not. Seems that's the best material to get an edge and maintain it from everything I've read.

I'll probably wind up getting a kit that comes with a used, shave-ready razor and a strop. If I buy something brand new, I'll have to go all in on a honing stone set to get edge sharp enough.

On that note, anyone have any for sale? ;)


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Most Solingen steel straights are LOW carbon...this is what you want. Have a new razor professionally sharpened first, as few come "shave ready" and have a barber teach you proper stropping technique. You will want to strop the blade before every shave. SPEND THE MONEY on a good horse hide strop and do not worry about using any kind of dressing pastes or bars...they are simply not necessary. I prefer Illinois Brand strops personally with linen back strops.
 

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Just make sure you have a shave pen and plenty of TP available.

And never, EVER use a side to side movement.
A wee tub of Alum from the spice section of the grocery store does just as well. and YES to the TP lol. Going VERY SLOW and not over shaving is the best way to avoid too much blood.....and a properly stropped blade makes a very clean and quick healing cut. Dull blades leave jagged cuts that take forever to heal.
 

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I have no doubt that H&R uses quality steel and since I don't even have a straight razor of my own, I'm certainly in no position to judge. I just wanted to know if it was carbon steel or not. Seems that's the best material to get an edge and maintain it from everything I've read.

I'll probably wind up getting a kit that comes with a used, shave-ready razor and a strop. If I buy something brand new, I'll have to go all in on a honing stone set to get edge sharp enough.

On that note, anyone have any for sale? ;)


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Start hitting antique shops! Vintage straights are awesome finds...and generally cost less than $50 to have restored. Avoid ones with too much "Smile" and pitting....and those with chips that are more than 1mm deep. Discoloration is not to be worried about...this adds character.
 

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Someone linked a fix to the always dull cartridge issue, after reading all the comments i was surprised by all the positive feedback , seems to work.


 

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i dont use one, but i grind my own coffee beans.. same reason i suppose and the difference is very noticeable. maybe i give this a shot to add to the good morning experience :D
 

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I'll share what I know about metallurgy and knives.

Steel comes in different grades, and of those grades comes with a "hardness" scale.
While soft steel sharpens easily, it also looses the edge or sharpness more easily too. So, while stainless, surgical, or tool steel is harder to sharpen, it also takes much more for it to loose an edge. Softer steel also tends to get jagged edges when sharpened too, witch is not such a good thing when running it along the skin of one's face.

Choose wisely my friend!
 

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German "Rostfrei" is what to look for. The finest knives and other blades are made in Solingen Germany. If you look at the edge of a properly cared for straight razor blade...it will have a microscopic saw cut that extends nose to tang. This is why when using the proper technique...you go downward and slightly outward from the center of the face to the outside.
 

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A wee tub of Alum from the spice section of the grocery store does just as well. and YES to the TP lol. Going VERY SLOW and not over shaving is the best way to avoid too much blood.....and a properly stropped blade makes a very clean and quick healing cut. Dull blades leave jagged cuts that take forever to heal.

Your much smarter than you look my friend lol, you are 100% correct about how a nick heals with a super sharp blade compared to a dull one .

A nick from a sharp blade bleeds excessively because there is very little damage to the nerve endings , a dull blade does tons of damage to nerve endings and won't bleed nearly as much , just scabs up.
 

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Wow, so glad I posted here! Thanks for all the info, guys! I thought I knew a thing or two about blades, seeing as I'm a chef, but I clearly still have much to learn. Thanks again, everyone!


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Wow, so glad I posted here! Thanks for all the info, guys! I thought I knew a thing or two about blades, seeing as I'm a chef, but I clearly still have much to learn. Thanks again, everyone!


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J.A. Henkles, Wusthoff, Sabatier, etc <<<All Solingen steel
I was a Chef (ACF CCC) for 19 years! DID YOU KNOW....Henkles made straight razors for MANY years, and can still be uncovered on Ebay?
 

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Someone linked a fix to the always dull cartridge issue, after reading all the comments i was surprised by all the positive feedback , seems to work.


man you are right this seems to work. gonna give it a go when the time comes
 

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Wow, so glad I posted here! Thanks for all the info, guys! I thought I knew a thing or two about blades, seeing as I'm a chef, but I clearly still have much to learn. Thanks again, everyone!


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I know nothing compared to Franciscan on this , i just know about sharp and dull blades that all lol. Never thought about checking out old shops looking for a good one , good tip.
 

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man you are right this seems to work. gonna give it a go when the time comes


To be honest after i tried it i found the blade improved and was able to shave with it but i definitely would not call it "like a new blade" as others have said.

The thing that has made the biggest difference by far that i have found is making sure your cartridge is bone dry after shaving . I hit it with a blow dryer for a few seconds and they have lasted twice as long as usual for me.

I just started doing what the guy in the video did and it definitely helps but i think if you dry it and use that guys method it should be much improved .
 

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J.A. Henkles, Wusthoff, Sabatier, etc <<<All Solingen steel
I was a Chef (ACF CCC) for 19 years! DID YOU KNOW....Henkles made straight razors for MANY years, and can still be uncovered on Ebay?
I'm watching some on the Bay, right now, as a matter of fact! Yup, just found that out in the past couple of days. I think I'm going to pass on the brush and soap for now to keep my costs down, but any recommendation on a shave cream? I see a lot of talk about Prorasi (or C. O. Bigelow, as it's repackaged).

And it's nice to know I'm in good company, Chef!


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I'm watching some on the Bay, right now, as a matter of fact! Yup, just found that out in the past couple of days. I think I'm going to pass on the brush and soap for now to keep my costs down, but any recommendation on a shave cream? I see a lot of talk about Prorasi (or C. O. Bigelow, as it's repackaged).

And it's nice to know I'm in good company, Chef!


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Oh, almost forgot , i always never cared for shave cream , just never worked as well as i thought it should . Let me tell you , i picked up a small bottle of Baby Oil and "WOW" by far the smoothest and closest shave ever , no joke.

Nearly effortless , forget the shave cream , try this . I always wet my face with warm water before hand, seems to help .
 

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For creams, you really cannae do better than Prorasi. When you feel inclined to go with soap....Mitchells "Wool Fat" is a brilliant triple milled soap from the UK..used it for years. Now I get glycerine and Bentonite clay soaps from Whoos The Man https://www.etsy.com/shop/whoosthemansoap
The scents are amazing, and the lather is really quite remarkable. As for brushes....most are overrated....pretty much any "Best" badger brush will serve you well. "Super" and silver tip are pretty, but do not perform any better. Boar is also good, but a bit more aggressive..and really only for men with wire beards.
 

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Oh, almost forgot , i always never cared for shave cream , just never worked as well as i thought it should . Let me tell you , i picked up a small bottle of Baby Oil and "WOW" by far the smoothest and closest shave ever , no joke.

Nearly effortless , forget the shave cream , try this .
Yep, that will do in a pinch. The biggest thing is to fully soften your bead with hot water (shaving after a nice hot shower is best), and REALLY working in the cream or soap. This also makes your skin much more pliable and less prone to cuts. Stretch the skin being shaved so it will not "bunch" in front of the blade.
 

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I don't know if i have ever seen those here , those actually sound good , the UK not only has the best NIC but shaving creams as well , figures i decided to settle in the US , dammit man.
 

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THE BIGGEST THING OF ALL!!!!... Straights and safety's weigh as much as they do for a reason!!! The weight of the razor is all that is needed to do it's job...under NO circumstances do you bear any additional weight upon them.
 

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Yep, that will do in a pinch. The biggest thing is to fully soften your bead with hot water (shaving after a nice hot shower is best), and REALLY working in the cream or soap. This also makes your skin much more pliable and less prone to cuts. Stretch the skin being shaved so it will not "bunch" in front of the blade.


Never had a beard and don't want one , i like the clean shave look lol.
 

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I also highly recommend the website "Art Of Manliness"......great stuff for those that want to return to a time when we were gentlemen and the Lasses loved us for it!
 

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Yep, that will do in a pinch. The biggest thing is to fully soften your bead with hot water (shaving after a nice hot shower is best), and REALLY working in the cream or soap. This also makes your skin much more pliable and less prone to cuts. Stretch the skin being shaved so it will not "bunch" in front of the blade.

Its cheap and i have yet to find anything that even comes close , it's amazing . If it causes issues and i need a change i'll switch but i can't believe how effortless and close a shave i get with it now.
 

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Its cheap and i have yet to find anything that even comes close , it's amazing . If it causes issues and i need a change i'll switch but i can't believe how effortless and close a shave i get with it now.
Slick is slick
 

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I'm thinking about taking the plunge... tired of buying cartridges, not getting a close enough shave, and I have a general need to tinker (ie I already rebuild my atties and DIY eliquid). Plus, I like the idea of it being a process and experience.




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A gentleman is an unhurried man. The time we take to groom ourselves and take pride in it.....is repaid generously by the attention our women lavish upon us.
 

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I also highly recommend the website "Art Of Manliness"......great stuff for those that want to return to a time when we were gentlemen and the Lasses loved us for it!

Oh gees , lets not get crazy now , i avoid sites that sound like "art of Manliness" , just makes me uncomfortable , i already know i'm manly , the fat bald guy isn't going to convince me otherwise.
 

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I was thinking about the Dovo Shavette to try my hand at it, but I feel like I should just commit and grab a starter kit from whippeddog.com, not spending the money to "try" it. Seems to be recommended by everyone over at the Badger&Blade forums. $53 for a visibly flawed, but professionally honed, used razor, and strop. I figured I can get the honing stones and brush later on.


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Honing only needs to be done annually...and generally $20 to have a professional do it.
 

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Slick is slick


Not sure about that but will look into it and advise later , not saying it's not true but i can't confirm with certainty yet.
 

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Oh gees , lets not get crazy now , i avoid sites that sound like "art of Manliness" , just makes me uncomfortable , i already know i'm manly , the fat bald guy isn't going to convince me otherwise.
I am proud of my fat baldliness TYVM!!!! It's a site that is not for ponces....great articles on everything from picking out a shirt, to bass fishing.
 

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I am proud of my fat baldliness TYVM!!!! It's a site that is not for ponces....great articles on everything from picking out a shirt, to bass fishing.

Your bald, no shit really ? The bald look does work for a lot of people by the way , nothing wrong with the Q ball look , just wanted to make that clear .

Bald guys rule
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