It would smell like you were vaping one of those car air fresheners.
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lol! Now I'm in the mood for FA Summer Clouds, aka "clothes softener sheets." Who needs room freshener with flavors like these.
He's still awaiting a shipment Frito. He doesn't yet have all the flavors. Pm him what you want and see what he can do. I'm waiting for his next fa order to come in before he ships to me.
Ok no vaping chips, hot spices, pine, or dryer sheets for me...um no bread crust either, nor crab, I'm just plain boring. Just got fa champagne and yes it's more of a wine to me, but I'm really liking it. I'll try it standalone next, but tried it at 2% with 1% FA mandarin & .25% FA orange. Definitely not a mimosa, but sweet & tasty & light fizz?
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This is amazing!!! Taste so good. Used the exact recipe but I didn't have cola and it still taste great, what does the cola do to it?
You're no fun. Just got back from going with my wife to eat crawfish and was wondering if I could find that in a flavoring.
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HEY ALL...just letting anyone who is interested know that Wllmc has 10% off if you order before midnight and he is going to carry 10 ml. Fa. He's working on his site...check it out at http://mamajsjuice.com
Idk...I believe Wllmc vaped crab and prayed to the porcelain god afterwards....not sure what co. He got it from, but if you find and vape crawfish will you post a video for me to feel less boring and more cultured?You're no fun. Just got back from going with my wife to eat crawfish and was wondering if I could find that in a flavoring.
Oh hey Frito! I didn't know you just found this place. I'm pretty new too. I just finished reading this whole thread..took 3 months...a little here, a little there. Took notes...some useful info. And humor...I laughed a lot. Called it chicken soup for the vaping soul.
Me, I love this place. I don't get in trouble for my strange since of humor here, and have already learned more this week about making my own juice than I did at another site in months.
Yes I believe most of us here are a few grapes short in the fruit salad! My issues stem from teenage dares. Could never turn down a double dog dare!
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Hi xxjoexx33. I'm glad you liked it. The Cola add a touch of spice to it. FA Cola is a very useful flavor.
http://vapingunderground.com/forums/diy-reviews-flavorings-nic-base-suppliers.393/
Lots of info on flavors here incase u didn't know
Ewww I got everything but whip cream. I'm gonna try it with a 2:1 ratio Vienna / fresh cream to make whip cream.
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That ought to work. The Vienna cream might change the cookie flavor a bit though. I hope it does.
BTW I'm still trying to make my own cake, but haven't succeeded yet. I'm centering my attempts around Capella's Vienna Custard V2. I've about got a neutral cake.
I' got that on the way and caps cake batter just got here today. I'll mix some up standalone tm and tell ya what I taste
Well chances are, but it's not a caution listed one at bull city. I got the caps vc v2 comming to try out crampmolothews white cake, poke cake, and wllmcs rummy custard. I got the cake batter to try his poke cake too. Maybe crampmolothew will know on custard notes
From a customer review on BCV:
Nice gooey cake with caps famous custard notes nestled in.
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I guess that settles that. I kind of thought so. But, It would be nice to hear from Caps.
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Maybe a little oak wood in there also and just enough burley to taste it. Lol
That's a good description. I agree, a touch of spice. I'm getting that, too, but it's a warm, light spice, kind of like how honey reacts to your tongue, but this isn't a honey flavor, just something I can't name, lol. I made this a week ago, been vaping it since last night. This is nice, caddisfly! That cookie calmed down, too. I sometimes get a harshness from cookie, but I do LOVE that cookie.
Oh. I did omit Strawberry. I'd had a lot of berry flavors and wanted just iced cookie.
Hey, there ya go. MJ for the pine, Oak Wood, Black Fire, Burley... Call it "Forest Fire" or "Smoky Bear."
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I finally find a use for strawberry, and you toss it out the window. Well, I'll be...
I'm glad you like it and I'll have to try it sans strawberry. Hummm, perhaps a touch of sesame? Anyway, I'm going to try it nude.I couldn't properly talk about cola last night (friends were here). First, I do not like cola sodas. Coke, Pepsi and RC taste like sweetened something you don't want to think about. That said, I really like to vape FA Cola. First, it adds an exotic spicy tone. Second it helps meld other flavors together. Finally, it adds fizz. This fizz is probably in my mind, but I cannot deny its presence.
I'm glad you like the recipe and thanks for the ideas. Cookie, cookie, cookie...
(Assuming you mean Inawera Sesame) Yeah - do that! If you like cookies from the Asian markets, you're going to like it. It can be used for interesting savory pie crust, too.
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Thats exactly what I mean. I'd been looking for it and found it on Vapers Tek. It came yesterday with my NIC order. I tasted it at 2% and it is tasty. 2% is probably too high though. It's strong stuff.
I ordered it with mine last week and it isn't in my package
If anise had a warmth to it, that's the best way I can think to describe the spice I'm getting with it, @caddisfly.
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Oh, no. I hope it was was a mistake on their part and they are going to get it in the mail right away. If not, I'd be willing to share my 10ml bottle. Just let me know.I ordered it with mine last week and it isn't in my package
Very kind of you to offer. I PM'd him, so I'm sure it'll be taken care of. I was really looking forward to that one, too. Thanks, though
Oh great! I am vaping caps cake batter. Idk what bad stuff smells like, but this doesn't smell chemically to me. I smell a rich vanilla sweet cake batter! A concentrated drop on the tongue burns...that's probally not good. Bottle says made in USA...not to ingest directly and keep away from open flame. Bottle label is original capella. No fats, calories, or sweeteners. Non flavor ingredients pg. Mixed at 6% on 1.8 ohm aspire bvc coil on istick @ 6watts...I taste a light white or yellow cake...hmm to me it tastes more baked than batter. Gave a 10 monthly water bath. It tastes a little gooey. It smells like a cake baking in the oven.
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Thanks for being the guinea pig Daintanee. I would imagine that with most concentrated flavors a drop on the tongue would burn, so that is not too much of a worry. The only concerns I would have is if the "bad things" are in the flavoring. Perhaps HIC while see this and comment.
I suppose the question should be; do you see a use for it?
wllmc made a recipe for me that uses cake batter as part of the custard base. you can see the recipe here http://vapingunderground.com/threads/oggys-anise-custard-by-wllmc.29917/#post-175964
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I don't use many CAP's flavors, but that one is awesome. If memory serves, it doesn't contain the badies.
First the great news: sure there's use for it! Lots of people love those flavors. It's sweet and buttery and creamy. More reasonably good news: it's a flavor they won't ship internationally, which means it has quite a bit of alcohol in it, and that's the tongue burn. That's not unusual at all, and it helps explain why so many people recommend "steeping" those creamy/buttery Caps flavors.
On inhalation...The bottom line on Capella is, if you have ingredient concerns, don't vape their flavorings. Or do it Bill Clinton style, and don't inhale. Even Capella says they're not for inhalation. They still don't associate themselves with vaping. Email them asking about inhalation - you'll see what I mean. Search their website for "vape" or "inhalation" - nothing. Here is their line, from their FAQ about diacetyl: "Even though Diacetyl is on the FDA approved GRAS list for flavoring manufacturers, there are other compounds available to mimic a buttery/creamy taste." Could be acetoin, acetyl propionyl, butric acid, and other subs.
I have about 25 Capella flavors. I personally detect a heavy load of subs in all but 2, which are fruit flavors. I know what percentage of those chemicals it takes to make me wanna heave when I smell the bottle, and Cake Batter is fairly high on that list. That's no lab report - just my personal reaction! I heave at FA kitchen flavors, too. When I wrote this about FW's caramel flavors, I got a lot of heat...until a flavor vendor had those tested and found 8%. It confirmed my physical reaction. That smell doesn't mean they taste bad vaped, at least not to everyone, and apparently most people like the smell right from the bottle, but I'm not the only one who gets this reaction.
There are flavors with diacetyl/subs that smell fine to me, so I can not always detect it. But I have a perfect track record so far on the flip side (makes my stomach turn, has those chemicals). As TFA started posting that info on their website, my hunches proved true. It's still no lab report - just my opinion on the Caps.
Here's a rule of thumb I follow myself. If it's batter, cake, butter, meat, pastry, anything "fried" tasting, pecan (dammit), or rich-cream flavoring, it has diacetyl or subs. Those actual foods are all made with butter or other fat, and for the flavoring to taste right, it needs some buttery/fatty flavoring. With creative mixing you CAN mimic those flavor (sometimes!), but no company has a magical "safe" buttery molecule that the others don't know about.
I'll just leave it there - all just my opinion.
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Thanks for writing this HIC. It clears up a lot of things in my mind. I try to avoid the diacetyl and others not because they might harm me, I'm an old man and I don't believe I have enough time here for them to accumulate to harmful levels. It's because I too get nauseous when I vape them.First the great news: sure there's use for it! Lots of people love those flavors. It's sweet and buttery and creamy. More reasonably good news: it's a flavor they won't ship internationally, which means it has quite a bit of alcohol in it, and that's the tongue burn. That's not unusual at all, and it helps explain why so many people recommend "steeping" those creamy/buttery Caps flavors.
On inhalation...The bottom line on Capella is, if you have ingredient concerns, don't vape their flavorings. Or do it Bill Clinton style, and don't inhale. Even Capella says they're not for inhalation. They still don't associate themselves with vaping. Email them asking about inhalation - you'll see what I mean. Search their website for "vape" or "inhalation" - nothing. Here is their line, from their FAQ about diacetyl: "Even though Diacetyl is on the FDA approved GRAS list for flavoring manufacturers, there are other compounds available to mimic a buttery/creamy taste." Could be acetoin, acetyl propionyl, butric acid, and other subs.
I have about 25 Capella flavors. I personally detect a heavy load of subs in all but 2, which are fruit flavors. I know what percentage of those chemicals it takes to make me wanna heave when I smell the bottle, and Cake Batter is fairly high on that list. That's no lab report - just my personal reaction! I heave at FA kitchen flavors, too. When I wrote this about FW's caramel flavors, I got a lot of heat...until a flavor vendor had those tested and found 8%. It confirmed my physical reaction. That smell doesn't mean they taste bad vaped, at least not to everyone, and apparently most people like the smell right from the bottle, but I'm not the only one who gets this reaction.
There are flavors with diacetyl/subs that smell fine to me, so I can not always detect it. But I have a perfect track record so far on the flip side (makes my stomach turn, has those chemicals). As TFA started posting that info on their website, my hunches proved true. It's still no lab report - just my opinion on the Caps.
Here's a rule of thumb I follow myself. If it's batter, cake, butter, meat, pastry, anything "fried" tasting, pecan (dammit), or rich-cream flavoring, it has diacetyl or subs. Those actual foods are all made with butter or other fat, and for the flavoring to taste right, it needs some buttery/fatty flavoring. With creative mixing you CAN mimic those flavor (sometimes!), but no company has a magical "safe" buttery molecule that the others don't know about.
I'll just leave it there - all just my opinion.
I watch VULive and have won approximately 30 bottles of juice and of those about 2/3's make me nauseous after 4 or so hits. Even though they taste good. That is the reason I avoid diacetyls et. al. TFA discloses their flavors with "bad stuff" and I tested those marked such and each of them gave me the queasy feeling. Once again, thanks.
BTW I was worried that Inawera Sesame might do the same. It hasn't and I've been vaping it on and off all day.
Hahaha Bill Clinton style!! Well shits about the cake batter. In my humble of an opinion it's not that great of a flavor to be worth it...but butter pecan from fw or what was the other pecan flavor co., HIC? They are worth it! All a matter of taste opinion. Thanks for the info. Hic
That other Butter Pecan was Nature's Flavors. I can't smell the bottle (or FW's), but as long as I keep it to tiny bits, I can vape it and enjoy it. But I know what's in there... Same with Inawera Sesame. When I say "tiny bits" you might be surprised how very little I mean...when I vape questionable ingredients, I often start with a dilution to use as flavoring. It helps bypass my gag reaction. Mmmmm, how appetizing is that, lol!
Inw cake batter
Um, a use for it? Crampmolothew used it in only that recipe. I'm so new to this I couldn't say...I know Wllmc used it in a few recipes....I was hoping to add it to my vanillas...but not so sure.
So I dumped together about 3% cake batter...I'm guessing 2%lime Tahiti...it kinda squirted out....1% custard .75 % Jamaican Rum and mandarin, .5% coconut, lime c.p., cardamom. I taste a lime jello type cake. Like a white cake with lime jello d
Um, a use for it? Crampmolothew used it in only that recipe. I'm so new to this I couldn't say...I know Wllmc used it in a few recipes....I was hoping to add it to my vanillas...but not so sure.
So I dumped together about 3% cake batter...I'm guessing 2%lime Tahiti...it kinda squirted out....1% custard .75 % Jamaican Rum and mandarin, .5% coconut, lime c.p., cardamom. I taste a lime jello type cake. Like a white cake with lime jello d
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Since you guys seem to really know your stuff....and at the risk of becoming a pest...I promise I won't ask another question for a while. :| but....
I'm slowly making my way through a bunch of HIC's recipes since I've gotten some FA flavors....
I'm trying to make small sample sizes to see if I like the recipe...3-5ml each but how do you guys get 0.25% of a flavor into your mixes?
Is there some trick to it or am I just stuck with having to make a dilution with the flavor then using that or just making a larger mix so that 1 drop equals 0.25%?
I'm hoping there's a trick to it.
I'm slowly making my way through a bunch of HIC's recipes since I've gotten some FA flavors....
I'm trying to make small sample sizes to see if I like the recipe...3-5ml each but how do you guys get 0.25% of a flavor into your mixes?
Is there some trick to it or am I just stuck with having to make a dilution with the flavor then using that or just making a larger mix so that 1 drop equals 0.25%?
I'm hoping there's a trick to it.
Since you guys seem to really know your stuff....and at the risk of becoming a pest...I promise I won't ask another question for a while. :| but....
I'm slowly making my way through a bunch of HIC's recipes since I've gotten some FA flavors....
I'm trying to make small sample sizes to see if I like the recipe...3-5ml each but how do you guys get 0.25% of a flavor into your mixes?
Is there some trick to it or am I just stuck with having to make a dilution with the flavor then using that or just making a larger mix so that 1 drop equals 0.25%?
I'm hoping there's a trick to it.
If you don't want to dilute it (and I rarely do this) just double your mix. I usually make 6ml testers, because that works out with the drops I use, but if there's one flavor that needs .25 I just make 12 ml. Or, depending on the flavor I might just try and make it a tiny drop for an idea!
You could just mix a flavor bottle making the 0.25% ingrediant as one drop and any 0.5% flavor as two drops and so on. Just keep the ratios the same and use the total % to mix with your base. Say all the flavors add up to 6%, make your sample at that percentage from your flavor bottle, be it 3,6,10 or whatever. It's good to have flavor bottles for your favorite recipe as well as it saves a lot of time.Since you guys seem to really know your stuff....and at the risk of becoming a pest...I promise I won't ask another question for a while. :| but....
I'm slowly making my way through a bunch of HIC's recipes since I've gotten some FA flavors....
I'm trying to make small sample sizes to see if I like the recipe...3-5ml each but how do you guys get 0.25% of a flavor into your mixes?
Is there some trick to it or am I just stuck with having to make a dilution with the flavor then using that or just making a larger mix so that 1 drop equals 0.25%?
I'm hoping there's a trick to it.
Don't stop asking questions! It's how we ALL learn!Since you guys seem to really know your stuff....and at the risk of becoming a pest...I promise I won't ask another question for a while. :| but....
I'm slowly making my way through a bunch of HIC's recipes since I've gotten some FA flavors....
I'm trying to make small sample sizes to see if I like the recipe...3-5ml each but how do you guys get 0.25% of a flavor into your mixes?
Is there some trick to it or am I just stuck with having to make a dilution with the flavor then using that or just making a larger mix so that 1 drop equals 0.25%?
I'm hoping there's a trick to it.
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Thanks for the replies guys...so I guess there's no wizard vapery going on then
I guess I'll just make a larger size mix - I like to keep things tidy and and having different dilutions of different flavors will drive me crazy.
And I'm sure I'll screw up at some point and use a dilution when I'm meant to use full strength and vice versa and yada yada.
Ah well, if I don't like a recipe, I can just pass the mix on to someone who isn't as picky as I am.
Thanks again and thanks Daintanee, I'll keep that in mind.
I guess I'll just make a larger size mix - I like to keep things tidy and and having different dilutions of different flavors will drive me crazy.
And I'm sure I'll screw up at some point and use a dilution when I'm meant to use full strength and vice versa and yada yada.
Ah well, if I don't like a recipe, I can just pass the mix on to someone who isn't as picky as I am.
Thanks again and thanks Daintanee, I'll keep that in mind.