I think i am just nitpicking, other than the filing down issue. As long as it doesn't leak and vapes great I am still happy with it. Thanks for your assistance!
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My new Griffin RTA (vs Crius)
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I think i am just nitpicking, other than the filing down issue. As long as it doesn't leak and vapes great I am still happy with it. Thanks for your assistance!
OK my thoughts I still love my 3 Crius tanks no issues with any of them. Been using Griffin for a few days love it to. Will it replace my Crius... No. It has been added to my rotation but to me this tank is just like the others Crius included way to much hype. Lol it is better built and can do some bigger builds but as I said my Crius is good to me lol
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The VCMT is like the Griffin but with a floating Juice Control and the Chimney is detachable from the top so you can use it as a RDA...I just ordered the Griffin, and I think I'm going to order the 25.mm
VCMT as well..
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That's good to know!
My goal is to get away from buying coils and still enjoy the vape I get on the Tfv4..
The VCMT has a bigger tank than the Griffin but still uses a velocity style deck that should be easy to build..gotta see how I do with the Griffin first as the VCMT is a bit pricy at around $60...lol
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Griffin 25mm coming out in the next few weeks also, so it wont have the issues the VCMT does but all the features that are bigger on the VCMT will be on it...and still be cheaper
Got a chance to build up vertical coils in my Griffin. Wicking it was a tough chore but once u get the process it's not hard.
Vapes pretty nicely too
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Vapes pretty nicely too
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Man Ray, I learn something new from you everyday lately! That's great!Griffin 25mm coming out in the next few weeks also, so it wont have the issues the VCMT does but all the features that are bigger on the VCMT will be on it...and still be cheaper
Save that $60 I was thinking about spending on that VCMT now!
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I knoe, so many new shiny things to buy and money is never enough...I just ordered a full black cuboid and black griffin....next week I will be buying that Point Blank Lite and hopefully a handful of HB6's...It will never end but god damn it .Man Ray, I learn something new from you everyday lately! That's great!
Save that $60 I was thinking about spending on that VCMT now!
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The man who dies with the most toys wins-The Jonses
Got a chance to build up vertical coils in my Griffin. Wicking it was a tough chore but once u get the process it's not hard.
Vapes pretty nicely too
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Hey, does anyone have pictures of how they're wicking their Griffins? I too have a dual vertical build on mine, tried wicking it, but its been leaking like a bloody sieve. I'm positive its my wick as juice is just FLOWING out of my AFC. Need help! i keep hearing all these good things about the Griffin, but honestly my Crius has been less of a pain in the ass to get working.
For horizontal builds you want your cotton fluffy and cut so the tips just fit into the juice ports like a cup, not stuffed in or showing underneath.
This is how mines wicked right now:
For vertical you need a crazy amount of cotton in the chamber...like this:
A touch too much for me to even try to get all that cotton in there right... LolThis is how mines wicked right now:
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For vertical you need a crazy amount of cotton in the chamber...like this:
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Yea I dont see why someone would waste all that cotton and time for meager results....
Out of curiosity how do you wick your horizontal coils? A pic or two would be great..
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tried vertical, took so much more time and work ... went back to horizontal!
Make it so the cotton has slight resistance when pulled through the coil. Cut the Tips flush with the Ring on the ports. Fluff the ends and guide them into the Ring/Cup and your done. Do not stuff the cotton in and it should not show under the ring! When you go to put your cap on I find the best way it to line up a juice hole in the cap with the middle of your coils and then press it on slowly, this makes it so the cotton isnt disturbed at all and it will remain fluffy and straight.
I raise the Ring once Im done to open up the channel where the cotton tips end for better flow.
2.5mm ?
i don't fill the holes neither ... might also depend on what size wraps and VG/PG ratio juice.
My Griffin should be here Monday and thx to you guys for the info on how to build it.. Because I have some 24g Nichrome I use in my RDA's on hand I'm thinking about starting off with about 10 wraps on a 3mm bit for starters...I only vape 100% VG..even in my subtanks..I hate PG, lol
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i'm on max VG also, 2.5mm works best for me .... 3mm can be a bit trouble sometimes.... working with 316L SS
Add another MM
3.5mm Fused Clapton 5 Wrap in my Griffin.
WAHHHHHHHHHHH huge deck ... need one of these babies soon !Add another MM
The Griffin Deck is bigger then the Velocity RDA is borrows from...You got room, trust me.WAHHHHHHHHHHH huge deck ... need one of these babies soon !
See for yourself...
Same build in my Griffin and in My Twisted Messes RDA (TM RDA has one more wrap each coil)
best i've done is 3mm in the Crius, it did give me a bit of trouble .. 2.5mm is really quick for a rebuild.
Ok...I did a Mutation MT vs Griffin Comparison (Will post later) and a Wicking the Griffin TUT in the last hour or so...Heres the Wicking Tut I Promised You Guys.
Thread your Cotton through...Make it so it has a SLIGHT Resistance when pulled in either direction and clip the cotton so theres a inch left on both sides.
Round the cotton up and then measure where it should be if it was just sitting into the ports, then cut the cotton so it would fit in them without stuffing it in.
Guide the cotton into the ports/ring with tweezers or something flat. Then any cotton hanging out lightly tuck it into the ring. If it feels like the cotton is too tight of pressured in then grab the whole cotton end end lift/wiggle it some to loosen it up. There should be NO cotton showing underneath and should just be cupped by the Ring and Ports!
After your cotton is all set I like to raise the ring a full twist or 2 so where the cotton shows from under it that area is widened and higher, this makes it easier for juice to wick.
Now take the Chamber/Barrel and hold it so a hole is over each coil and then push it on, this makes it so the holes are no where near the cotton as it goes down and it leaves the cotton undisturbed.
Thread your Cotton through...Make it so it has a SLIGHT Resistance when pulled in either direction and clip the cotton so theres a inch left on both sides.
Round the cotton up and then measure where it should be if it was just sitting into the ports, then cut the cotton so it would fit in them without stuffing it in.
Guide the cotton into the ports/ring with tweezers or something flat. Then any cotton hanging out lightly tuck it into the ring. If it feels like the cotton is too tight of pressured in then grab the whole cotton end end lift/wiggle it some to loosen it up. There should be NO cotton showing underneath and should just be cupped by the Ring and Ports!
After your cotton is all set I like to raise the ring a full twist or 2 so where the cotton shows from under it that area is widened and higher, this makes it easier for juice to wick.
Now take the Chamber/Barrel and hold it so a hole is over each coil and then push it on, this makes it so the holes are no where near the cotton as it goes down and it leaves the cotton undisturbed.
That's about how I do mine.
Very good ...thank you Ray for taking the time to post this... Now when my Griffin arrives I will have some knowledge on how to to wick it, as this will be my very first dual coil RTA ever....thx again!
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Let me know if you ever want some nice coils made, I made some for @ej1024 and then @iiKryptic to try also...They dont cost much but they do function well and are coilporn worthy. Plus you know they will fit alreadyVery good ...thank you Ray for taking the time to post this... Now when my Griffin arrives I will have some knowledge on how to to wick it, as this will be my very first dual coil RTA ever....thx again!
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I'd be willing to buy some, if prices aren't too high!Let me know if you ever want some nice coils made, I made some for @ej1024 and then @iiKryptic to try also...They dont cost much but they do function well and are coilporn worthy. Plus you know they will fit already
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$5 a pair +Shipping....I think its plenty fair. I see others charging $20-$35 and then shipping so I think its reasonable...I'd be willing to buy some, if prices aren't too high!
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not gonna lie guys, this Griffin has kinda been a pain in the ass. It started out the gate acting like an angry Crius on steroids. It gains my trust, thinking I've got it wicked just right, and BOOM. leaks like a sieve. I've rewicked it just like I've seen here, but no dice. I've had to clean up after it 3 times already. @TheVapingDevil , did you wick it the same way i wicked my Crius with the dual verticals? you got pics of how you did it? It's killing me because this is just such a beautiful tank, i want it to work.
i'll take it off your hands for free, so it can stop tormenting you!
My Griffin came in the other day. The first two times I wicked it it leaked like a sieve: first time with rayon (as seen in all the videos), second time with rayon but much more in the channel and removed the ring - poured out. Third time I wicked with cotton the same way I wicked it with rayon the first time, and so far I've been through 4 or 5 tanks with no leaks. I made dual 3mm claptons (UD clapton wire), and I'm hoping it was just the rayon causing the issues - but I'm not holding my breath LOL
still vertical coils ?
Where did you pick up this black Griffin from?
@africamonk picked it up from vaportekusa. Think it may be how it seals? I changed the main gaskets on the glass, but didn't look at any of the other ones. @ej1024 never owned a kayfun.
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Ok ok
When refilling a top fill tank
CLOSE THE AIRFLOW
Fill it with juice
For crius push it down while putting it upside down, let it sit there for a minute of 2,then flip it open the airflow, wipe excess juice...
MUTANK
Same shit
Fill it
Close the juice cap not to tight flip it up side down
Let it sit there,
Flip it while tightening the cap
Open airflow
Wipe excess juice!!!
There's a reason why the OG tanks were bottom fill, it's more effective, it creates more efficient vacuum in the barrel ,although top fill is the shit now a days I THINK ITS A GIMMICK
i still apply the KAYFUN rule ,
I still don't have my Griffin but when I get that, I will do the same thing
KAYFUN RULE..
Another thing I did before with my KAYFUNS was
I take the top cap off kinda like the MUTANK
I put a stick to or whatever I can find in the hole where the vapor comes out while filling, then after finish filling i put the top cover, tight it, flip it, let it sit watch the bubbles go away then flip it again... Damn that's a long ass instructions... This is just something i do with all my RTAS /SOTs
VAPE ON
Ok ok
When refilling a top fill tank
CLOSE THE AIRFLOW
Fill it with juice
For crius push it down while putting it upside down, let it sit there for a minute of 2,then flip it open the airflow, wipe excess juice...
MUTANK
Same shit
Fill it
Close the juice cap not to tight flip it up side down
Let it sit there,
Flip it while tightening the cap
Open airflow
Wipe excess juice!!!
There's a reason why the OG tanks were bottom fill, it's more effective, it creates more efficient vacuum in the barrel ,although top fill is the shit now a days I THINK ITS A GIMMICK
i still apply the KAYFUN rule ,
I still don't have my Griffin but when I get that, I will do the same thing
KAYFUN RULE..
Another thing I did before with my KAYFUNS was
I take the top cap off kinda like the MUTANK
I put a stick to or whatever I can find in the hole where the vapor comes out while filling, then after finish filling i put the top cover, tight it, flip it, let it sit watch the bubbles go away then flip it again... Damn that's a long ass instructions... This is just something i do with all my RTAS /SOTs
VAPE ON
I orderd one from Eciggity.. should be here Monday..
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Hey man sorry I was off the radar last few days
I used the verticals got a day then took it out because I found the airflow too restrictive. Sorry but I don't have pics of the wicking. I knew I should have. It didn't leak a drop so I'm sure it would of worked better if I had adjusted the wicks more. Here is what I did
Took some jap cotton and removed both sides of the compressed layer. Then inserted it down into the coil and when it came through on the deck side, grabbed it with tweezers and pulled enough through so I could work with it. Then cut that in half and aligned the ends to the juice channels etc.... Once the ring was on I went and cut the top even with the top of the coil
The truck I found was were the airflow holes are. My wicks were covering them up pretty badly. I pushed the wicks up off the airflow for 2 reasons. First that's the only way to get air in. Secondly if your wicks are touching the air holes, once the cotton is wet it will seep down in there. Once I got that part done it worked. Not kidding you it was a real pita to get done. It vaped great but I didn't care for the restrictive air flow. Even with it wide open I was not to my liking. I took it out and put in horizontal twisted 28 g ss ,10 wraps and hitting .37 at 52 watts 470 degrees and it's very good. I found this takes longer to wick than Crius because I have to be a perfectionist lolol but once it's all together I no longer get and leaks and performs great
My first few attempts were epic fails. Once I adjusted my wicking and took my time ( I know that's hard to do lolol) it became my favorite. My two bitches are: first I would like more capacity. 2ond if you have to Vape this outside in the cold good luck. Once the tank and juice are cold you will get a dry after two hits. Clearance between glass and juice holes are too small for super thick vg when it's below 30 degrees.
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You gotta close the juice control when filling and I also close the airflow...If you fill above the glass this will happen when you open everything, every time also...it makes too much pressure and floods to even the pressure
This is the Griffins thread bud, if its not suitable for your vaping style then why bother posting about a different tank with a completely different styled experience? The Griffin is a builders tank and the tanks I compared it to are also "builder style tanks" with the expectations that they have massive decks that handle massive coils...
I dont see where anyone was telling you this is the tank you have to have, if you like to have a restricted/limited experience then keep doing what your doing...This is the tank with the least amount of limitations. You dont need to buy it if it doesnt fit your needs...
One thing, this is not the Crius so it doesnt weep/seep or whine. Depending on your build it doesnt hav to waste or use more then needed of your battery either. The only difference in anyway from other tanks is the chamber/deck size, but yes its much better quality then most as the design is flawless and when used correctly there will not be any issues.
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