I used to use Boge Cartos with a Phiniac Glass Carto Tank, around 3-4 years ago. Still have the tank, and maybe 2 or 3 boxes of Boge Cartos from AltSmoke.com, used to love them, but they were hit and miss. One would work and last for up to a week or 2, then the next would crap out on the first fire. Then a few started giving "off" tastes and were just junk. Kind of miss the old crackling noise they'd make, but after having the Nautilus, Atlantis, and RDA's, I wouldn't dream of going back to Cartos. Will gladly send them to you and could part with the Phiniac and all tools, but to be honest it's a sub par vape compared to today's RDA's and Tanks.