The Official Stagger/Fuse Thread

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  1. Pegleg Meg

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    Here's another video for paraclaptoning ribbon stacks



    This guy makes good videos, shame there are only two
     
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    I tried paraclaptoning again today, this time after taking wire off the spool, I got a few good sections

    Then I fused it to one strand of round wire, I'm gonna vape it - is this called a half-stagger?

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    It might look cool after I get it hot because one run of 40 is A1, the other is K D
     
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    Hey...can kanthal A1 color? Because it all colored up the same...
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    i think the term for that would be half framed, but im not positive. i seem to recall something about a1 coloring at similar temps to kd, just not as brightly or something. i have never tried to color ka1 and never bought kd...

    great build :cheers:
     
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    Half framed staggerton?

    I've gotten A1 super hot before, no color - I think my Kbee A1 is actually KBee D ....

    Yes, I'm vaping kbee :oops:
     
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    it might be a half-staggerton for all i know lol i have seen a pic labeled 'half framed ssfc' and it was pretty much what you made, but with the spaced claptons on the frame instead of the stack.
     
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    I think I get it, half stagger means there's more gaps in the wrap, right, and staggerton means you stagger the inside then fill in the gaps after putting more cores outside, I forgot the staple part... so many acronyms lol

    so... half-framed staple stagger fused clapton... or half-framed staggerton?
     
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    i dunno im trying to look it up and if i google half framed staggerton i get a pic of a coil that has a naked round wire frame, a small naked staple stack, which are both fused to a spaced claptoned staple stack (opposite the round wire frame). an ssfc has the spaced claptons on the outside with a naked staple stack in the middle. im not sure what to call yours...starting to think you should name it yourself :D
     
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    okay... a peglegged staggerton

    because it has only one leg, that's why it staggers har har

    I know there is a real name for it though, it's just a staggerton with only one frame lol
     
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    im good with it being a peglegged staggerton and if i ever make one im gonna call it that and fight with anyone who tries to say differently :cheers:
     
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    In my experience, kanthal will get a blue tint only.. no other colors.


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    Kanthal A1, or kanthal D? Kanthal D will definitely go blue, blue-green, yellow, and purple, and then rainbow with enough heat
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    Kanthal a. I never tried to color Kanthal d. Never noticed any color besides blue on that either


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    I never noticed color on kanthal A1, except from shiny to dark grey lol *shrug* different eyes I guess
     
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    Wow Meg that’s really something ...love that coil
     
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    Note: 7 inches of 8x.3 ribbon need 12 feet of 40 guage (two strands) to paraclapton

    Posting so there's a frame of reference for later, because I had a nice time paraclapping after cutting wire off the spool and then separating them (coming from two different directions, one over each leg, no tangling or twisting up)
     
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    First staple stagger fused clapton, took a lonnnng time for just 7 inches, trying to get it perfect because it's for someone else ;)
    8x .3, 28 and 40
     

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    Was my second attempt ever. I'll give it another go tonight.[​IMG][​IMG]

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    Badass :cool:
     
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    Thanks. Hell if it wasn't for you guys I'd still be vaping parallel

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    Doing this again, 40 this time, way too much space but it looks better than the 38 ones from the other day

    This is still hard but it makes more sense, this is before rolling with a tube mod

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    I also did 2x28 in the middle and 2x30 on the outside

    After a squish, almost clean but too much spacing

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    :confused:screwed up trying 2x28 and 2x32
     

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    ye gods you guys are doing good work :cheers:
     
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    Hey, how did you end up staggering it, what method I mean?
     
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    Oh I used the loop method. I have spool tamers on my wrap wire so I don't really have to hold the spool as much as guide it. Just used my index finger to hold tension with the loop and guided spool in same hand. Saw it was going ok and let her rip. I figure if it didn't mess up going fast then I had to be doing it right.

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    Finally got some of these, oh man they're Cute lol, only $1 at my local wally world
    Tempted to hang up tiny clothes before I use them for builds IMG_20180410_170422~2-948x1267.jpg
     
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    I think I ordered some yesterday. He'll I can't remember. I know I looked at them.

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    I'll just put this here for the sake of reference.

     
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    Another stagger tip/trick - small clip with teeth

     
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    Tooth's. Ha ha was a good video though

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    I'm really digging paraclaptoning after cutting two strands off the spool. I keep them coming from two different directions so they never cross, I'm not seeing any problem with this idea yet
     
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    I'll just leave this here.[​IMG]

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    yeahhhh buddy :xD:
     
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    New stagger tool, adjustable weight! Cork holds the spacing wire nice and snug without breaking it
    One of those premade-in-China coil holders, got this from Howing

    Just twist the tool until the spacing wire is as tight as you like - havent tried 46 gauge but works with 40

    Edit: Also works with 42
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    Nice! Here's what I use. The weight of the metal cap is perfect.

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    Sticking the main build type threads so we can easily find them and keep them updated
     
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    Pegleggerton with 46g :D
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    Tutorial for Corrugated Staple Staggered Fused Clapton by Sherlock Hohms/Hometown Hero

     
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    Wow super clean !
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    Thanks :D here's another, made a pair and added ribbon to the frames

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    And then I gave them to someone, I forgot who :oops: that's why I keep running out of coils lol, oh well guess I just have to keep building, how terrible huh;)
     
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    My first 3 core stagger fused Clapton. Not that great but i might try it out[​IMG]

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    Nice !Here's my stagger maker. I found a cap like urs was to light and it would slip off track sometimes so I went with a little extra weight to keep it in place the whole run. [​IMG]

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    Gentlemen, tonight I witnessed and learned the easiest staggering technique to date, thanks to a guy on instagram named probee300

    Wrap some spacing wire between your first manual spaces, two rotations or so, tighten the lot of the two wires, and put on a mini clothespin

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    This is 32g core and 46g wrap, I went ahead and tested this method to the most extreme I could. It's amazing


    Here's 40g

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    Easy and consistent, no weights to wobble around, just set it up right and stay at a 90 degree angle

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    Hopefully I get SSFC down pat today

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    The staples is where I have my issues

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    I tossed my 6 ply/ 36g one, ribbon got bent; the 8 ply/40g one worked out though, Barely

    I really dont like this coil society ribbon
     
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    I'm done with this poop for a while, I don't want to even do staples until my kbee comes in the mail

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    Is it bending off the spool meg or what?
     
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