wow people basing their info off of days old posts just doesnt stop ive been posting to this everyday but i commend you for atleast reading that far back *round of applause* lol also ive been vaping for 8 months and i can handle pretty thick clouds
day 3 tho of continuing to vape after that shit happened last and no problems since then so far
Well, I'll make one more effort, though with your smart-ass attitude, I don't expect it will bear any fruit. You're right, I didn't read the whole thread, because there's only so much excuse-making I can tolerate, so please excuse me for wishing to skip a lot of that dreck. My tolerance of "yeah but" is pretty much nil.
I have now read the entire thread, and I agree with bobnat: you started right off, maybe with your very first post, telling all of us ex-smoking vapers why vaping won't work for you so you're giving it up and going back to smoking. If you were to combine all the suffering and effort that all of us together have suffered to MAKE vaping work for us to keep us smoke-free, you probably don't have a container big enough to hold it all -- yet most of us have found a way to make it work, even in some rather odd and unusual ways -- such as my continued need for extremely high PG, more than 3 yrs down the road -- most folks are able to move on to higher VG after their lungs heal a bit, but some of us really can't... but that's ok, vaping with high-PG is still smoke-free, and still works to keep me that way, and probably a lot of others too. And I still need a very tight draw, another thing that most vapers abandon fairly soon after starting -- but that's what it takes for me to be satisfied, so I stick with it, despite how difficult it's become to find hardware that caters to that. Because I am determined to be an EX-smoker, not just give up at the first hint of difficulty.
I know as well as anyone how hard it is to quit smoking; until vaping, I really thought I'd have to smoke till it killed me, because I simply couldn't find any way of quitting that didn't make me suffer the agonies of the damned in hell. My point being, if you want the "easier softer way" (as we say in AA) to quit smoking... then vaping is IT. It's definitely not one-size-fits-all, not by a very long shot; you might have to go thru a lot of BS and money-spending to find the way to vape that suits YOU, substitutes well for cigarettes, and doesn't cause a lot of physical problems... but if you throw the baby out with the bathwater -- that is, abandon vaping and go back to smoking -- you will never find that right way. People who only make a token effort to do something tend to display that sort of behavior -- so they can say, "well, I tried, but it didn't work for me." Which might make you feel better, but it certainly won't lead to your becoming an ex-smoker.
Until you are totally free of cigarettes, you will not know if vaping works for you or not. Every time you light a cigarette, you are resetting your brain to want, demand, and expect cigarettes. I have quit twice using vaping; the first time was so easy I couldn't believe it; I think that was the novelty factor, because the 2nd time, after a short (1 month) relapse to dual-use, I found it much harder -- I kept vaping and vaping, expecting cigarettes to just "fall away" as they seemed to do the first time... but that wasn't happening. I realized that I had actually made more effort, the first time, than I had realized at the time, but that effort was definitely required -- I had to finally say, "Ok, enough! No more smoking, period!" and really mean it, really stick to it, to make it work. So I did that, and very happily found myself once again an ex-smoker -- and 10 days later, the hard physical cravings came back. I didn't want to relapse again to smoking, so I got some WTA, and after I vaped that for a full day... I realized that the cravings were GONE, completely disappeared.
But, I absolutely don't recommend WTA to anyone who has not yet fully quit smoking, because as long as you're smoking, you're still getting the full "alkaloid cocktail," so the inclusion of WTA will mean NOTHING -- you won't know if you really NEED that full alkaloid cocktail until you are totally free of smoking, for at least a week. If you really want to be a non-smoker, you have to stop lighting cigarettes, PERIOD -- even the occasional one will reset your brain to expect and demand all those alkaloids -- and the brain is a real bitch of a taskmaster, and will cause every symptom it can think of, to try and get what it wants -- cigarettes. The only way to make it stop demanding is to stop giving it what it demands that it needs, OR, to give it those alkaloids in a form that is NOT cigarettes, and then gradually wean off them -- a great deal easier with a liquid you can gradually use less of, than with cigarettes.
So, if you really want to be a non-smoker... stop lighting cigarettes, and just vape. That's the
easier softer way.
Andria