wismec rx 200 & dna 200 battery questions need help

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  1. true199

    true199 New Member

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    ok the rx200 board is a remake of dna 200 and was wondering if it could handle a lipo
     
  2. Neunerball

    Neunerball Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    In theory, it should be possible. However, the tricky part would be to connect the balancing wires properly. You need to be able to balance charge the LiPo, otherwise it won't live long.
     
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  3. Jim_MDP

    Jim_MDP Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    I have to see this as an odd project.

    The RX and DNA Reuleaux models were concurrent results of a Wismec & JayBo collaboration with several goals in mind, as I see it...

    Replace the short lived LiPo packs with the more commonly available 18650s.
    Create a comfortable enclosure to accommodate three cells for higher WHr count and provide a true 200w which can not be done with just two 18650s.

    And you want to put LiPos back in? :)

    ETA: I'm right now reading the brief of the EVOLV infringement suit against Joyetech and it would appear the RX was not concurrent, but rather a slightly later JT product to compete with their licensed DNA model.
    This does not sit well with Evolv. :eek:

    The rest of what I said stands. :)
     
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  4. lordmage

    lordmage Joined The Crusade - it's PG/VG, not VG/PG!!! Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    as i understand it the rx200 is the direct result of dna200 screen supply shortages. the took jaybo's design and applied to their chip to answer demand for the 200watt 3 battery device.
     
  5. Chainvapor

    Chainvapor Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    I doubt that is the case. I cannot see a shortage on $150+ mods with boards that cost $80 each. The sales would not even get close to what the RX200 is doing for under $50 in most cases. Wismec and Joytech got GREEDY and wanted to put out cheaper mods to get HUGE volumes in sales. 1,000 RX200 mods sold for $50 makes a lot more money than 10 DNA200 mods sold at $150+ dollars each. The profit for China is in cheap ass mods at high volumes. Unfortunately, I believe we as vapers suffer from this more than anyone. If you buy than $50 mod instead of the $150 one, you may be saving $100 now, but that Chinese mod may only last 1 or 2 months. Than what? You buy another $50 mod and another and another and before you know it, you've now spent over $200 when that $150 mod is still chugging along 1 year later. I have DNA30 devices that still work great. I have a DNA40 device that has given me no issues whatsoever. I am awaiting my DNA200 right now. I do own an RX200 mod and I think it is nice, but I am sure my DNA200 will outlast it. Time will tell I guess. I have some China mods that have lasted quite awhile, but some that died also. I think with China it is hit or miss. You may get a mod that lasts 2 days or 2 years.

    I guess all I am saying is that I believe in American quality more than China quality and I am willing to pay for it once in awhile. Like everyone else though, I do not always have the money to buy the high end gear, so I have China made mods too.

    Man I must be tired. I am sorry to have even written this post as it is completely ridiculous and just me rambling on and on.

    CV
     
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    Jim_MDP Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    No, but the derail is entirely my fault, Sorry OP.
    It deserves its own thread... someone, please do so.
    I had just started the 8 page ECF thread and took the time to actually read the 24 page court document before coming back to ETA my post above.

    The topic is... LiPo-ing a Reuleaux... and... go! :p
     
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    Even if you could rig something... why would you want to.
     
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    Does anyone have a ballpark life span for the LiPo packs in the better devices such as Tesla or others?
    Want to get another device with a built in like the new Tesla Nano 60W
    Any opinions?
     
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  9. Jim_MDP

    Jim_MDP Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    I don't have any high watt LiPos to compare for you, sorry.

    We have a few RC fans here as well who've used that tech for years, I'd take their word for the durability of the packs.

    But when I said "short lived"... I meant total Whr capacity/runtime, not longevity. :oops:
    I believe the LiPo's advantage is higher Amp draw capacity... much higher.

    Or is runtime what you're asking about as well? :p
     
  10. Neunerball

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    Yes, depending on the C rating (discharge rate in vape terms) of the LiPo pack, you can draw more Amps. For the DNA200 mods, they are usually around 25C. A battery with a discharge rating of 10C would mean you could theoretically & safely discharge it at a rate 10 times more than the capacity of the pack, a 15C pack = 15 times more, a 20C pack = 20 times more, and so on. Therefore, if you have a 1000 mAh LiPo with 25C rating, you can safely discharge it at 25.000 mA, or 25 A. Another advantage is, that a LiPo pack charges quicker. However, they don't like to be crashed hard, 'cause it might damage the internal structure of the pack, which can result in the pack starting a fire. There are plenty of videos on the tube showing R/C Helicopters catching fire shortly after the crash. Luckily nothing like that has happened to my Helicopters yet.
     
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    Plan to use a lipo pack when I build my regulated box mod.I will use the balance leads to charge the pack.I have been flying R/C Planes for 10 years and the chargers we use have a balance port on them.You can pick one up for $15 to charge our small packs( I have 16V 5000 mA packs). So make sure the battery you will use has a balance lead on it and use the proper charger,Problem solved. I buy from Hobbyking.com..
    Change of subject.Were do you buy regulated chip sets,What site ??? Thank you
     
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    the rx 200 doesn't have a DNA board in it? I'm not sure I understand the questions
     
  13. conanthewarrior

    conanthewarrior Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    The Wismec DNA200 was a device I really wanted, and I can clarify for a while it was very hard to get hold of one in the UK, and I was told it was due to shortages of the board from various shops.
    The shop I originally ordered mine from changed my order for me to an Efusion, and included some free things for the trouble as I had waited for quite a while to get the device.
    I managed to get one at a later date when they was available again.

    You are right in what you are saying that 1000 $50 RX200 devices will sell more and make more money for Joyetech/Wismec as most go for this model, I have the DNA200 version, the original RX200 and an RX 2/3. The RX200 has actually held up well and for the money I think it is a fantastic device though.
    But as you say, it can be hit or miss if it will last or not. The only thing I can say is the DNA200 version has the same components, such as 510 pin, as the cheaper RX200, so a failure due to these components or workmanship could still be possible with the more expensive device, it just has a better board.

    I am like you in the way that I don't mind paying out for a more expensive device every now and then, but a lot of my mods are chinese devices, out of 25 regulated mods 4 are DNA devices with a 5th on the way, so a lot are Chinese. I do feel that US mods are of a higher quality than their chinese counterparts though.
     
  14. OneBadWolf

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    Even some entering thermal runaway mid air... Goodness Gracious. Great balls of fire!! :eek:
     

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