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Wingsfan0310

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It looks nice but if I'm going to get a dual 18650 mod I would just go with a DNA200. I don't see any advantage to getting a DNA75 in a dual 18650 configuration. It has less power available if needed and the chip isn't as efficient. You can always turn a DNA200 (133 watts in 2 x 18650 configuration) down, but you can't turn the 75 up past 75..

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It looks nice but if I'm going to get a dual 18650 mod I would just go with a DNA200. I don't see any advantage to getting a DNA75 in a dual 18650 configuration. It has less power available if needed and the chip isn't as efficient. You can always turn a DNA200 (133 watts in 2 x 18650 configuration) down, but you can't turn the 75 up past 75..

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Agreed. It doesn't seem very practical and I've heard the DNA75 chip has had some issues but not sure if that's related to the 26650 versions. It's a nice looking mod that's for sure.
 

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Good looking mod, but like stated I'd rather go with a DNA 200.
 

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Not enough oomph for me no matter how nice it looks.


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I don't understand why Evolv made a 75w chip and not a 100w. If it was any other company I would assume it was just a marketing ploy and the 100w would come out right after everyone had bought the 75w.
 

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Well if you are vaping TC it is fine I suspect. More than enough power and ooomph. If you are a power only guy this is not the mod for you. I thinkm its beautiful and will happily pay the price if the reviews are solid. Not that all reviews are to be believed or all comments on forums, lol. I was told the Phenotype L had issues with o-rings. Mine have been fine and I love the RTA. But I'll view the reviews first in case there is an obvious problem.

I own the DNA40 from Lost Vapes - @Vash. I do not regret getting it at all. It has issues. No protection for inserting your batteries wrong. No TC other than nickel. But its a lovely vape in TC non-the-less. And I like how it feels in the hand. So I will try this out.
 

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I don't understand why Evolv made a 75w chip and not a 100w. If it was any other company I would assume it was just a marketing ploy and the 100w would come out right after everyone had bought the 75w.

Because a 18650 can safely do 75 watts, but not 100 watts, see all the 200 watts dna devices either have lipo battery or 3 18650's to power the 200 watt board.

Does look a sexy mod, but be too expensive and should of stuck with 1 18650 to have it smaller.
 

PaulS

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You want dual 18650s. Otherwise you are swapping out batteries too often. I think its perfect for what it is. Its just not for everyone.
 

Wingsfan0310

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I don't understand why Evolv made a 75w chip and not a 100w. If it was any other company I would assume it was just a marketing ploy and the 100w would come out right after everyone had bought the 75w.
Evolv doesn't do 100 watts per battery. Their dual battery 18650 mods are capped at 133 watts. You have to have 3 batteries in series for the DNA200 to get 200 watts. It's one of the reasons I have respect for them. If you've read some of my posts you know I despise dual battery 200 watt mods. When you consider most of us use 20 amp CDR 18650's, 75 watts is really all that you should try to squeeze out of one. I'm not saying it's not possible to get more when fully charged or when you draw 35 amps from them :eek:. What it comes down to is most dual battery mods that claim 200 watts (or single battery mods that claim 100), simply don't do what they advertise. Rant over. I'm sorry about the rant but it's a subject I'm passionate about.

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Steve

Edit The chip has an input maximum of 4.5v so it was designed to be used in a single battery mod. Sure you could run multiple batteries in parallel, but most will be a single cell. They have the DNA200 for multiple battery mods.
 

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Evolv doesn't do 100 watts per battery. Their dual battery 18650 mods are capped at 133 watts. You have to have 3 batteries in series for the DNA200 to get 200 watts. It's one of the reasons I have respect for them. If you've read some of my posts you know I despise dual battery 200 watt mods. When you consider most of us use 20 amp CDR 18650's, 75 watts is really all that you should try to squeeze out of one. I'm not saying it's not possible to get more when fully charged or when you draw 35 amps from them :eek:. What it comes down to is most dual battery mods that claim 200 watts (or single battery mods that claim 100), simply don't do what they advertise. Rant over. I'm sorry about the rant but it's a subject I'm passionate about.

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Steve

That's a big duuuur on my behalf. Come to think of it, I think I made the same comment in the original DNA75 thread and you gave me the same well thought out, logical response. Some of us never learn until the second time around :)
 

Wingsfan0310

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That's a big duuuur on my behalf. Come to think of it, I think I made the same comment in the original DNA75 thread and you gave me the same well thought out, logical response. Some of us never learn until the second time around :)
I didn't mean it as an attack on you at all buddy. I just usually bite my tongue on the subject and every once in awhile I don't bite down hard enough. It wasn't directed at you. It's just the subject. The deeming fda regs have me a little bit on edge.

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Steve
 

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I wish they did the halcyon with dual 18650 or did a 75w dna squonk
these 75w mods are all the same size as dual 18650s
 

HvyMtl

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I wish they did the halcyon with dual 18650 or did a 75w dna squonk
these 75w mods are all the same size as dual 18650s
Now see for a squonker I'd be happy with a DNA 75 in that format.


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PaulS

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Actually like their DNA40 it is dual battery. But a DNA100 chip does not exist.
 

SteelDriver

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Dna 100 would be moot got 133 and this would be only 75 I'd get if I only wanted 75 watts hcigar and hotcig are problems with batteries not chip I think but why buy this when 133 is not much larger 75s may not be a big hit lol.
 

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"But I don't understand why you are only considering parallel cells when series cells are better on safety and performance with the right board. EG. a DNA 200 in 2 cell operation (133 W) using series cells is >= 97% efficient and monitors each cell individually. With parallel cells you loose the better efficiency of step down only regulation, the individual cell monitoring and depending on the mod have a very real danger of generating extreme currents inserting cells if they are at different voltages."

Here do it like this, show me ANOTHER box mod under 80W that uses dual batteries, THE Only one I can think of is the cloupor gt80 but thats in series not parallel.
 
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Lost vape also did the parallel dna40. I think for them its the run time, that they feel some people want.
 

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Lost vape also did the parallel dna40. I think for them its the run time, that they feel some people want.
yeah dna40 was a breed in its own, plus you couldnt access escribe with it and play with power levels, cut off voltages and everything else. People are going to be doing things in escribe they probably shouldnt be doing
 

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yeah dna40 was a breed in its own, plus you couldnt access escribe with it and play with power levels, cut off voltages and everything else. People are going to be doing things in escribe they probably shouldnt be doing
Well, the point of a modders board has always been for people that like to tinker. Just like all things tech, it evolved statically.
None of us on the user side, would have considered Something like escribe. I was just happy to build a dna40 with a better 510 than what was offred at the time.
 

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Well I FT'd a couple SDNA75's for day to day beaters. But I tried to resist getting this guy. It was in no way a must have, doesn't give me more power, it's an easy to swap battery mod so why do I need two in parallel. The triade looks great and really drives home the value on power and battery longevity and I already have a second of those on the way. Still didn't stop me from breaking down and ordering one. This deadline is making me a hoarder.I know a lot of these will be available well after August. But I just can't take that chance. I have probably spent a grand in the last 3 months on devices. Another 300 on liquid stuff.
 

Wingsfan0310

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I posted this on Lost Vapes FB page about 30 minutes ago. I wonder if they will answer, take it down, or just ignore it?

"Are you going to release a DNA200 (133 watts) version of the Therion? I don't see any advantage to using the DNA75 chip in a dual 18650 mod. The DNA200 chip is more efficient, than a DNA75 (97% vs 85% per Evolv's specs) so you get longer run-times. It gives you more flexibility for power (133 watts vs 75) and can be turned down if not needed (both chips go down to 1 watt).

Cheers,
Steve
 

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I posted this on Lost Vapes FB page about 30 minutes ago. I wonder if they will answer, take it down, or just ignore it?

"Are you going to release a DNA200 (133 watts) version of the Therion? I don't see any advantage to using the DNA75 chip in a dual 18650 mod. The DNA200 chip is more efficient, than a DNA75 (97% vs 85% per Evolv's specs) so you get longer run-times. It gives you more flexibility for power (133 watts vs 75) and can be turned down if not needed (both chips go down to 1 watt).

Cheers,
Steve
They say in this post that they will.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2046936142197174&substory_index=0&id=1788496431374481

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Wingsfan0310

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  1. Yes i seen the backs they are releasing separately , just a shame they won't do so for the triade i have. The grey paint peels easy also , but with therion you might be able to break it down an recoat it wjen paint peels , but i have held off buying the therion awaiting the 133 dna board, its basically a dumbed down dna 200 , so in future could take board out an put in a diy build an possibly get it back to 200 idk , but deffo more appealing having it at 133 w , on pre sale everywhere now , so should be put soon enough reviews have already got theres
 

Wingsfan0310

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  1. Yes i seen the backs they are releasing separately , just a shame they won't do so for the triade i have. The grey paint peels easy also , but with therion you might be able to break it down an recoat it wjen paint peels , but i have held off buying the therion awaiting the 133 dna board, its basically a dumbed down dna 200 , so in future could take board out an put in a diy build an possibly get it back to 200 idk , but deffo more appealing having it at 133 w , on pre sale everywhere now , so should be put soon enough reviews have already got theres
The DNA133 isn't a dumbed down DNA200 board. It's the exact same board. The DNA200 is 200 watts when using three cells in series. It's limited to 133 watts when using two cells in series. There isn't a DNA133 board, it just depends on the amount of cells in series as to whether it's output is 133 or 200 watts.

Cheers,
Steve
 
Iknow this about the board pal , its just never going to get 200w on two cells ,i know dba dumb it down due to not enough cells other wise it be a 200 w but the dna 250w board can get 160w plus out of 2 cells , when its made more available others willstart to offer them an lipo be best power for them , ive been looking at building my own box too , (There a site in usa selling them as part of a kit with box an all bits for 125 usd , but the box they included in kit can only fit 2 cells an moment an i would want a bigger box mod to build it in so it will be good for 30mm attys ,)
There still showing as pre release in uk shops , ships as soon as stocks arrive , im wanting one , but also got my eye on a custom box mod with dna 200 box mod xl 3000 but dam expencive to buy , , maybe when the get the v2 made with a 250 chip i could get one.
 

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