How do I deal with a Trump supporter?

[SMOKIE]

 

[BigNasty]

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I take a harder line view of it.
But for the vast majority of folks this works also.

 

[Jasonrecio]

Haha, tell her to stay in her lane. Don't converse with people that aren't in your lane. If she's spouting racist or extremest shit, let HR deal with it. You have a legal right to not be subjected to that in the workplace. It's against the law. Fuck your work relationship with her. If she doesn't stop harassing you, then she won't have a place to work anymore. The question is, does she really want to take it that far for the sake of her own beliefs or is she taking advantage of you in order to vent because she thinks she's untouchable? Most people, when met with the reality that they need to check themselves or lose their jobs, will choose the former. Maybe that reality just hasn't hit home, yet.

If she's really a nice lady, there should be a way to make her realize that she's taking it too far. There has to be a way to make her realize that her behavior is inappropriate without stoking the flames. But if there isn't, well, you know... ...she's the one who has to make that choice, not you.


Don't get me started on the SJW movements. Those people are educated, professional whiners. They have majors in self-victimization. Everything is the fault of whatever their hearts bleed for. They can link any event or interaction back to their petty cause. It is destroying academic culture from the inside out. People are actually teaching them this shit in school! And they go out into the world with their useless human communications and sociology degrees thinking that they're going to make a career out of whining about whatever they see as the ills of a world that they have barely been a part of. They think they are going to make the world a better place by propagating their own fallacious sense of self-entitlement and enforcing it upon others.

It's easy to just laugh them off, but these people are fucking cancer. Groupthink is a monstrously terrifying phenomenon. They can and have caused real societal harm by crying and crying until they got their way. They preach equality, but perpetuate thinly veiled hate-speech under cries of oppression and social inequality. They're making a mockery of true social justice. It's a disgrace to our education system that these people, who know nothing of the world, the constitution, or even our history as a nation are enabled and in fact empowered to go out and disrupt legitimate social progress with their unabashed cries for attention and anti-free-speech jargon.

They talk about their alleged suffering and oppression in a way that implies they know little of real suffering. Because they don't know it well enough, they fail to understand others to a degree that would prevent them from acting so shamelessly entitled to their right to not be offended. They act like the world isn't against all individuals. No... ...only they could possibly understand the true meaning of pain. This only goes to show how weak and misguided their sense of empathy truly is... ...that when called on their shit, they will always resort to the "You don't know what it's like because of your privilege. You are the problem." defense. See, according to them, you don't have the right to even talk about it because you're not subject to the same prejudices as they are. The hypocrisy is mind-blowing.

They don't know how to approach human beings as human beings themselves. They fundamentally don't know how to relate to people as a whole because they've never actually had to... ...that's something you only learn to do when you go through many real-life struggles - only those experiences can force a deeper sense of understanding and compassion for your fellow man. True social illnesses compel people to set aside their differences and look for real solutions. It's progress or die.

Most of these kids, I think, come from fairly affluent upbringings. They come from stable families with kind, well-intended parents who can afford to pay them through the best schools. They've been lovingly taught that they are special and that nobody can take that away from them. They have it in their heads that they are going to do big things and that everyone else should just respect that. That is why their sense of pity and compassion comes off as patronizing. You can tell just by the way they behave that they don't really get it.


SJW's are a growing sub-type of a larger class of people in the the world: the ideologues. Whenever you meet someone who is obsessively dogmatic about an ideology, stay far the fuck away. No good can come of associating or even interacting with these people. It may seem harmless at first... ...maybe they're just passionate about their very specific opinions on certain matters, right? But no. It's more than that for them.

These people, if allowed into your life, will eventually either bring you down with them, or turn on you when you inevitably trigger them with something innocuous. Whether you see them as threat or not is irrelevant. Their beliefs are so convoluted and deeply intertwined with their perception of reality that they will eventually come to resent you as an adversary for some inane thing that you say or do... ...either that or something they read or something one of their friends told them will take them to blows with you.

Seriously, those people are the fucking worst. They threaten to bring us back to the dark ages. If you have to deal with them at work, they need to know that it's not okay to drop that baggage on you. Put as much distance between you and them as possible. One way or another, that shit has to stop. Don't agree with them. Don't agitate them. Don't acknowledge them. Start building a wall between you and them. If they haven't made an enemy out of you yet, rest assured that they inevitably will in the future. That's not a position you want to be in. It's a losing prospect.

Dam I feel sorry 4 ur thumbs!! But I agree 100%!

San Antonio,Texas

 

[pulsevape]

When armed felons have guns and get rightfully dead by their stupidity get mentioned as victims in the same sentence as cops..
And the admin and white crooked democrat blames it on whites... watch out folks you are being sold a bill of shit.

Yeah there is a false narritive being created by the media to manufactue consent to legitamize violence against certain political thought...anyone who has a third grade reading level can check the FBI crime stats and see the lies being sold by the DNC....that is if they give a fuck about the truth.

It's like when Clinton and Gore were running they created the myth of a "rash" of black churches being burned down throughout the south of course the media printed the lie......eventually somebody fact checked the absurd assertion,but not until AFTER the election...The Old Great White Devil has bought the Democrats more votes than free hot sauce or Hilary and Al Gore's BJs.

 

[DoctorJ]

I have a co-worker that is just shy of 60, a staunch Republican and gets moist as a bunt cake talking about Donald J Trump. It's fine until she drags me into it, that's when I have a problem. She asks me loaded, leading and racist questions in the hopes I will drink the kool-aid and join her.

Easy, do not acknowledge this person. Don't look at her, don't respond to her, don't even let her know that you speak the same language she does. I hate politics and I refuse to talk about it with anyone. Same goes for religion. You have the right to believe what you want as do I, however, I don't have to listen to your ramblings or rhetoric. My suggestion would be that if these tactics don't work, file a hostile workplace environment complaint with your HR department. If that is ignored and the woman doesn't shut her pie hole, file with a lawyer, that will damn sure get your point across and I'm quite sure your administration will shut her up one way or another.

 

[vape-addict]

Does anyone know of a forum that talks about vaping?

And talk about how much we are fucked!!

 

[Time]

For those responding to the OP, the post is 4 months old and since the OP has not logged on to VU since MARCH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Maybe they found some wisdom and climbed aboard the Trump Train.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

Money, religion and politics are not workplace discussion topics

 

[Time]

Money, religion and politics are not workplace discussion topics

Maybe that's why there are so many people that are ignorant about money, religion and politics. Seems to be a high percentage of the population that don't talk about those things outside of the workplace neither.

 

[pulsevape]

Maybe that's why there are so many people that are ignorant about money, religion and politics. Seems to be a high percentage of the population that don't talk about those things outside of the workplace either.

yeah I agree I think the people that complain about discussing politicis just don't want their ignorance exposed, or the fact they spend more energy toward American Idol than they do American politics. shown.

 

[VapeVillian]

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I'm stealing this!!

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[Rabbit Slayer]

yeah I agree I think the people that complain about discussing politicis just don't want their ignorance exposed, or the fact they spend more energy toward American Idol than they do American politics. shown.

They are all full of shit...what more needs to be discussed??

 

[pulsevape]

They are all full of shit...what more needs to be discussed??

alot

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

"alot" huh

 

[pulsevape]

"alot" huh

go back to sleep.

 

[DURASPANK]

Wanna see a funny up look on a political spewing persons face. Just tell them I have a coin with a donkey on one side and a elephant on the other. I go into the booth flip it and vote straight that way.

 

[Time]

go back to sleep.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

And then these jackass' come to VU and cry incessantly about vaping regs and by GOD everybody needs to sign a fucking petition. LOL.

Nope, nothing political worth talking about. Heh. Just flip a coin. Then whine.

 

[pulsevape]

Wanna see a funny up look on a political spewing persons face. Just tell them I have a coin with a donkey on one side and a elephant on the other. I go into the booth flip it and vote straight that way.

No, we figure that;s how most of the brain dead in America vote anyway....or they pick their candidate by whose face is on the pull tab on their diet pepsi...

 

[pulsevape]

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

And then these jackass' come to VU and cry incessantly about vaping regs and by GOD everybody needs to sign a fucking petition. LOL.

Nope, nothing political worth talking about. Heh. Just flip a coin. Then whine.

nah, they don't whine...they just turn up the volume on the TV to drown out reality.

 

[blipt]

I mean dang grow a set of balls and tell her you don't want to talk about it.

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[BigNasty]

Drop mic

 

[Time]

nah, they don't whine...they just turn up the volume on the TV to drown out reality.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

go back to sleep.

Thanks for the informative insight

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

And then these jackass' come to VU and cry incessantly about vaping regs and by GOD everybody needs to sign a fucking petition. LOL.

Nope, nothing political worth talking about. Heh. Just flip a coin. Then whine.

Signing petitions are a joke... no one has been able to get the FDA say a word about the regs..Yeah, talking about politics really helps

 

[Time]

Thanks for the informative insight

You got what you asked for.

what more needs to be discussed??

Yes?

 

[outwest]

Signing petitions are a joke... no one has been able to get the FDA say a word about the regs..Yeah, talking about politics really helps

Yeah, even Sen. Johnson's demands have been ignored by the FDA

 

[Time]

Signing petitions are a joke... no one has been able to get the FDA say a word about the regs..Yeah, talking about politics really helps

That's the point, genius. Ignorant fucks don't talk about politics until it's too late. Then they want to bitch about it. Their votes or non votes, due to ignorance, is what gives the government the power to rule over you. Your Ostrich Technique certainly isn't doing anything any more than signing a petition years after the damage has been done.

Did you talk about government/FDA regs in or before 2009 when the Act was passed that lead to the current vaping regs. No? There you go.

You get out what you put in.

 

[pulsevape]

That's the point, genius. Ignorant fucks don't talk about politics until it's too late. Then they want to bitch about it. Their votes or non votes, due to ignorance, is what gives the government the power to rule over you. Your Ostrich Technique certainly isn't doing anything any more than signing a petition years after the damage has been done.

Did you talk about government/FDA regs in or before 2009 when the Act was passed that lead to the current vaping regs. No? There you go.

You get out what you put in.

and they only give a shit that concerns their personal bellies not realizing that ignoring the goverment gobbeling up other people's rights eventual result in the end of your rights.

 

[pulsevape]

stupid fucks desrve to be slaves.

 

[Time]

and they only give a shit that concerns their personal bellies not realizing that ignoring the goverment gobbeling up other people's rights eventual result in the end of your rights.

Hush yer mouth, no one wants to hear it! LOL.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

That's the point, genius. Ignorant fucks don't talk about politics until it's too late. Then they want to bitch about it. Their votes or non votes, due to ignorance, is what gives the government the power to rule over you. Your Ostrich Technique certainly isn't doing anything any more than signing a petition years after the damage has been done.

Did you talk about government/FDA regs in or before 2009 when the Act was passed that lead to the current vaping regs. No? There you go.

You get out what you put in.

Did you talk about that stuff back then? If so, did it help?
I did not because I never heard about vaping until 2013.
And what does supporting Trump have to do with any of this bs?

 

[BigNasty]

Did you talk about that stuff back then? If so, did it help?
I did not because I never heard about vaping until 2013.
And what does supporting Trump have to do with any of this bs?

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

Gun control huh....
Here is a full list of every gun control law that has gone into effect since Obama took office:










Oh wait, there have been none.

 

[zepp21]

Gun control huh....
Here is a full list of every gun control law that has gone into effect since Obama took office:










Oh wait, there have been none.

Not nationally.


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[BigNasty]

Gun control huh....
Here is a full list of every gun control law that has gone into effect since Obama took office:










Oh wait, there have been none.

If that is the only thing you get out of that.. don't vote.

 

[Time]

Did you talk about that stuff back then? If so, did it help?
I did not because I never heard about vaping until 2013.
And what does supporting Trump have to do with any of this bs?

Yes, I did talk about government/FDA regulation back then. I talked about all regulation.

Yes, it did help. While I can't do much to open the eyes of those unwilling to open them, I certainly could see what the outcome would be. Decisions made then have consequences today. Decisions made today have consequences tomarrow. Talking about those decisions, whether or not I can influence them at the time, gives me insight on the consequences.

Supporting Trump has everything to do with this bs. That you even have to ask the question is proof positive that not talking politics has not prepared you to have an understanding of the workings of government.

Vaping regulations didn't happen in a vacuum. The are part of larger trend. A liberal trend. A conservative trend. A big government nanny state trend where the government pretends it knows what's best for you and legislates your protection. Vaping regs are a drop in the bucket.

 

[AndriaD]

A big government nanny state trend where the government pretends it knows what's best for you and legislates your protection.

This. I read an article, I *think* in Esquire, all the way back in the early 90's, about the horrible reign of Big Nanny, and it's just gotten worse. Although I don't like either R or D candidate, I think Hilary scares me more on the Big Nanny front; she's the prototypical "knows what's best and aims to enforce it" type that I so roundly despise. Liberal puritans are just as bad as the religious ones, if not even worse.

But Trump scares me too, because he's clearly a lunatic. If there was a candidate named Noneof Theabove, they'd get my vote, and probably a lot of others too. This year looks to be a big year for Mickey Mouse on the write-in vote.

Andria

 

[BigNasty]

This. I read an article, I *think* in Esquire, all the way back in the early 90's, about the horrible reign of Big Nanny, and it's just gotten worse. Although I don't like either R or D candidate, I think Hilary scares me more on the Big Nanny front; she's the prototypical "knows what's best and aims to enforce it" type that I so roundly despise. Liberal puritans are just as bad as the religious ones, if not even worse.

But Trump scares me too, because he's clearly a lunatic. If there was a candidate named Noneof Theabove, they'd get my vote, and probably a lot of others too. This year looks to be a big year for Mickey Mouse on the write-in vote.

Andria

If you write micky trust me it goes to killary.
The choice is Mango or Maniac.
One thing Mango does not have is the ENTIRE establishment pounding their collective puds covering for her corruption.
Maniac on the other hand.
Motherfuckers end up dead standing in her way.

 

[AndriaD]

If you write micky trust me it goes to killary.
The choice is Mango or Maniac.
One thing Mango does not have is the ENTIRE establishment pounding their collective puds covering for her corruption.
Maniac on the other hand.
Motherfuckers end up dead standing in her way.

I don't know who "mango or maniac" are. The choices are Hilary or The Donald. On Twitter I've seen a lot about the libertarian guy, Gary Johnson, but I don't know if he's actually running.

Andria

 

[BigNasty]

I don't know who "mango or maniac" are. The choices are Hilary or The Donald. On Twitter I've seen a lot about the libertarian guy, Gary Johnson, but I don't know if he's actually running.

Andria

Mango is Da' Don.
Maniac is hillary. So many people ended up deaded under her husband's regime, love the one even the FBI called a suicide. How he shot his own ass then locked his ass in a bag with a lock on the outside in a bathtub. Or the two or more to the back of the head being called a suicide.

 

[AndriaD]

Mango is Da' Don.
Maniac is hillary. So many people ended up deaded under her husband's regime, love the one even the FBI called a suicide. How he shot his own ass then locked his ass in a bag with a lock on the outside in a bathtub. Or the two or more to the back of the head being called a suicide.

Yeah. I guess I'm forced to vote AGAINST her, just as I was forced to vote against the idiots that were running against Obama -- after his first term, I knew exactly how awful he was, but the idiot running against him was worse, so I really had no choice. I just wish the R's could have come up with someone SANE, but I know that's a tall order -- a sane person wouldn't want that job in the first place. So the choice now is, psychopathic liberal fascist, or looneytunes nutjob. As much as I hate either choice, I think the psychopathic liberal fascist is a lot worse.

Andria

 

[BigNasty]

Yeah. I guess I'm forced to vote AGAINST her, just as I was forced to vote against the idiots that were running against Obama -- after his first term, I knew exactly how awful he was, but the idiot running against him was worse, so I really had no choice. I just wish the R's could have come up with someone SANE, but I know that's a tall order -- a sane person wouldn't want that job in the first place. So the choice now is, psychopathic liberal fascist, or looneytunes nutjob. As much as I hate either choice, I think the psychopathic liberal fascist is a lot worse.

Andria

No the Rs needed someone not bought and paid for by the same obama/killary backers.
The only one with enough fuck you money was Mango.

 

[AndriaD]

It really pisses me off, to be honest. I've wanted to see a woman as president ever since I was in single digits, hearing about Gloria Steinem, et al.... but c'mon, Hilary? Really??? That's the best women in politics can do??? I don't think so. I'd vote for Condi Rice in a heartbeat, but she's proven that she's sane... by not running!

Andria

 

[Time]

This. I read an article, I *think* in Esquire, all the way back in the early 90's, about the horrible reign of Big Nanny, and it's just gotten worse. Although I don't like either R or D candidate, I think Hilary scares me more on the Big Nanny front; she's the prototypical "knows what's best and aims to enforce it" type that I so roundly despise. Liberal puritans are just as bad as the religious ones, if not even worse.

But Trump scares me too, because he's clearly a lunatic. If there was a candidate named Noneof Theabove, they'd get my vote, and probably a lot of others too. This year looks to be a big year for Mickey Mouse on the write-in vote.

Andria

Any one trying to legislate morality, liberal or religious, is evil.

I'm not sure why you believe Trump is a lunatic. The media and career politicians have gone to great lengths to label anyone outside of politics and with non-mainstream views as crazy. They did it with Ron Paul. They've done it with lessor candidates so they never had a chance. I'm not sure why people believe it. And yes, a person must be crazy or really want to change things to run for President. If you are an average person that does not use political speak, you'll be misquoted, taken out of context and your words twisted into something different.

What has Trump done or said that makes you think he's loopy? Is it what he says, or the way he says it?

 

[Rossum]

 

[AndriaD]

Any one trying to legislate morality, liberal or religious, is evil.

I'm not sure why you believe Trump is a lunatic. The media and career politicians have gone to great lengths to label anyone outside of politics and with non-mainstream views as crazy. They did it with Ron Paul. They've done it with lessor candidates so they never had a chance. I'm not sure why people believe it. And yes, a person must be crazy or really want to change things to run for President. If you are an average person that does not use political speak, you'll be misquoted, taken out of context and your words twisted into something different.

What has Trump done or said that makes you think he's loopy? Is it what he says, or the way he says it?

He just seems like a completely loose cannon to me -- he's got all that money, and thus power, so he goes about everything like a wrecking ball. And then there's his hair. Anyone who would not only go in public, but seek to be on TV, and photographed, with hair like that, has GOT to be completely demented. I would agree that early baldness is a real tragedy, my son isn't 30 yet and is already nearly bald, and it's horrible; he had such beautiful hair! But it's a fact of life for many men, and to seek to hide it in the way that Trump attempts to hide his, is just goofy.

But I still think he's a better option than psychopathic liberal fascist nanny Hilary... which tells you just how awful I think she is. And this is a woman that I used to respect, for her grace and stiff upper lip when congress was crucifying her husband for his indiscretion. But all this nannying has completely reversed most of my previous political feelings. And the fact that she's a criminal, yet is being given a pass... that too is not what we need in a president.

Andria

 

[BigNasty]

LOL if mango takes Pence..
TP!! just what is needed to take a wipe out of crime.

 

[Time]

He just seems like a completely loose cannon to me -- he's got all that money, and thus power, so he goes about everything like a wrecking ball. And then there's his hair. Anyone who would not only go in public, but seek to be on TV, and photographed, with hair like that, has GOT to be completely demented. I would agree that early baldness is a real tragedy, my son isn't 30 yet and is already nearly bald, and it's horrible; he had such beautiful hair! But it's a fact of life for many men, and to seek to hide it in the way that Trump attempts to hide his, is just goofy.

But I still think he's a better option than psychopathic liberal fascist nanny Hilary... which tells you just how awful I think she is. And this is a woman that I used to respect, for her grace and stiff upper lip when congress was crucifying her husband for his indiscretion. But all this nannying has completely reversed most of my previous political feelings. And the fact that she's a criminal, yet is being given a pass... that too is not what we need in a president.

Andria

Oh my. I don't have a response to that, lol.

If he looked and sounded like Tom Selleck but everything else was the same, would that help?

Obama is a good looking guy. Sounds intelligent. Looks are deceiving. Romney is a good looking guy.

I'm afraid I have different standards than you do. A lunatic is a lunatic by actions, not appearance nor lifestyle.

 

[nightshard]

Looks is the last thing you should look for at a president.

And to the matter at hand, either tell her that you just don't care and she'll eventually loose interest, or admit that you're wrong and she's right.
Either way, problem solved.

 

[AndriaD]

Oh my. I don't have a response to that, lol.

If he looked and sounded like Tom Selleck but everything else was the same, would that help?

Obama is a good looking guy. Sounds intelligent. Looks are deceiving. Romney is a good looking guy.

I'm afraid I have different standards than you do. A lunatic is a lunatic by actions, not appearance nor lifestyle.

I agree that looks has nothing to do with ability... but hairstyle is a choice, not a genetic lottery. The hairstyle he's chosen seems to indicate someone not quite on speaking terms with reality. Yeah, kinda nitpicky... but worrisome in a presidential candidate. For similar reasons, I'd never trust someone like that NJ guy, Christie... if he has so little self-control as to let himself blimp out like that, he's not presidential -- nor even gubernatorial! -- material. Someone with that much power really needs to have more than average self-control and self-discipline, not less.

One point, about Trump, I've wondered about: is he a self-made millionaire, or was he born into better-than-average circumstances?

Andria