What wire materials & builds types necessitate annealing?
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To anneal or not?
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In reality None.......
Do a well tensioned coil you don't even need tweezers.
I ONLY dry burn and quench coils to remove gunk. And on my geni tanks to work out hot legs.
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Do a well tensioned coil you don't even need tweezers.
I ONLY dry burn and quench coils to remove gunk. And on my geni tanks to work out hot legs.
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I mean before coiling. Ive seen it done on braids to take the spring out.
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Yes if your doing fancy builds. You might want to stiffen the wire.i would NOT advise doing it with TC wire except Stainless. Nichrome and Kanthal are less springy if torched before coiling.
But you ask if materials require annealing....none do..... That's different than considering when for a specific purpose or process.
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But you ask if materials require annealing....none do..... That's different than considering when for a specific purpose or process.
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Annealing is softening up metal aka taking the tension/spring out to make it easier to work.
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Ok I'm not a metal gist or metalworker. I'm just going by what it seems to do.... u nannies led wraps loosen... annealed they do it less.. in my mind the wire that held form after annealing was stiffer wire. May technically be because the metal was softened. Reducing it's tendency to want to return to original shape.
Still the only time I currently use heat on wire is if the wire I'm using is kinda dirty. I'll torch it or dry burn the coil to clean.
I don't use fancy wire builds. Don't really like the amount of flavor they supply and require more wattage than I want to vape or supply batteries for.
Multi gauge twisted wire is about as fancy as I get. And I use tensioned wire when building coils. So I don't need heat to hold things together.
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I just buy quality wire that has been pre-annealed, no need to break out the torch like I did with shitty Chinese wire from UD, etc.
Can you tell us which wire you buy? How does one know it's annealed?
What is that?
I was of the understanding you weren't supposed to dry burn Ti. I've only tried prebuilt stuff with Ti.
I'm considering getting a spool if either Ti Or Ni. To try a few builds. I like Stainless for VW.... but can't get to liking it with TC.
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I agree, 316L is actually easier to work with without torching.
I used to torch it since I was in the habit of doing so with the Kanthal. The other day I was making a new coil and kitty was not going to leave my side , shoulders, back etc, so I just wrapped and set up. I got a better looking wrap and it was so much easier to get going than when I torched it. From no on, Im skipping the torching, unless Im doing a Genesis set up.
Inquiring minds want to know...where do you buy your wire?
Get a lot of wire from Kidney Puncher, the other wire I get is from Atomizer Wick and Temco from either direct from their website or sometimes from Amazon and eBay. Pure Atomist is also decent for Kanthal.
Currently all my fine wire is TM N80 in 36,38,40&44. Core wires i use right now are TM N80 in 26 & 20g. Then theres some lightening vape Stainless in24,26&28 and kindey puncher kanthal 26,28. Just wondering if annealling could make coiling the more complex builds easier
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Wire I get and have had best luck with are
- Kidney Puncher - 316L SS and Kanthal
- Atomizer Wick - 317L SS and Kanthal
- Temco - Annealed "and" True Sandvik Kanthal
- Pure Atomist - Annealed, haven't confirmed though where they source their Kanthal from and haven't used their SS
Worst wire I've ever gotten is from KBee, shit was so filthy it turned my fingers black. Then when I contacted them to let them know they replied they'd let their stock people know. Basically they just to me to fuck off, I'll never buy their cheap ass, filthy shit wire again and discourage anyone from using their shit products.
The cost of Wire why buy shit wire that is trademark infringed and if their wire is filthy you never know what else was mixed in with the wire itself or what shit was milled in the same factory. Lead or any other nasty ass toxic shit?
Nope, you DON'T dry burn Ti, Nickle, etc.
Don't like Lighting Vape wire and I've heard others have the same shitty experience with them also. If you over straiten the wire you'll temper it also making it springy. What I do when I straighten the wire is short spin of the drill then the same amount in reverse. This does a good job straightening the wire without making it too springy.
Also twisted wire is really springy due to the amount you have to twist it which tempers it.
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well both TI and NI are what i call picky wires. aka unless done just right it will not hold shape or form... both when to hot can outgas toxic compounds.