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riburune

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need dictionary for RTA/RBA/RDA and other shortcuts (i am too old for that)

and possible buying guide please how to choose Tank that i can make coils for it?
 

Mattp169

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best I can do
RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - this is your dripper atty. it hold sonly the juice the wick holds with maybe a hair under the coils on some RDAs
RTA Rebuilable Tank Atomizer - Like above but there is a glass tank around it that hold 2-20ml of juice(depending on the RTA)
RBA ReBuildable Atomizer - This is usually a piece you install in a atomizer that usually takes premade coils. the RBA section lets you build your own coils
RDTA Rebuildable Dipping Tank Atomizer This is an RTA but the coil sits above the glass tank such as the ijoy RDTA 5 o RDTA 5s or the limitless plus etc etc Some RTAs say they are RDTAs and thats where it gets confusing such as the Aromamizer
GTA - Genisis Tank Atomizer. The original genisis tank resembles more of what I just described as an RDTA. But the GTAs are RTAs where the deck(where you put the coils and wick sit somewhat in the middle of the tank section instead of on top or at the bottom within) this is suppose to mek wicking better

If you are looking for your first RTA style device try any of the geekvape griffins - easy as shit to use and learn on best for dual coil builds for single coil builds try a geekvape ammit

for and RDTA try the limitless plus - cheap as shit nowadays and easy to use.

never used a GTA so cant recommend one
For RDAs theres a bajillion that are good. someone else will recommend one. I like the petri 22m rda
 

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thats the only one I know of, maybe I recall something similar a year or two ago,, but it is weird in comparison to the MAJORITY of other attys
 

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They are a real nice solution for someone who wants to drip but not have to carry a bottle or even open it up to wet those coils.
 

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Many of them can also be used as a regular drip atomizer also. You just don't install the liquid tank.
 

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I thought I'd seen most if not all tank designs. I was wrong. I'd love to see pictures of examples of each class. A section with one off/failed/or otherwise weird series of pics would be cool too. :)

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@SteveS45 see you are doing exactly what the industry is doing
using the same term for everything
the gragas is pretty unique
it has a tank on top. the wicks are not self wicking you have to pump juice from the top to the cotton. Like I said maybe there was one like that a year ago, but its completely unique and different then the rest of the market
the combo you post is what I described as the common definition used by most manufacturers today of what an RDTA is. deck on top tank unde rit wicks go into tank - it is based of the original genisis atomizer form years ago
Where as what the manufactures today are calling Genisis Tank Atomizers which are basically RTAs with the deck raised above the bott9om of the tank but still within the tank presumably for a wicking advantage
The Aromamizer I believe may have been the first RDTA. but most people refer to it as an RTA since afte rits release the term RDTA was used to describe tanks like the combo. Possibly Steam crave wasnt trying to make RDTA stand for Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer and were just trying to combine the two terms RDA and RTA since they state it is built and wicked like an RDA but has a tank like an RTA
The Smok TF-RDTA is basically their version or copy of the aromamizer with some minor differences.

Regardless the GRAGAS is not the same as any of the other things mentioned it is unique and takes another spin on the term RDTA

The terms RDTA and GTA are so over used and applied to many different things its getting ridiculous to really know what RDTA and GTA mean any more since every company is just defining the terms themselves and we dont have an industry standard as of yet
Although Ijoy is really pushing their version of an RDTA with coils on top tank on bottom and you can use it exactly like an RDA if you choose.
I personally think their version of an RDTA should be the common accpeted meaning of it.
I think GTA needs to be changed to something else as to not confuse it with a genisis tank
and thinks like things like the aromoamizer and smok tf-rdta should be renamed as RTDAs to differentiate the two styles of RTAs
While that Gragas needs a totally different term maybe something like Inverted Self Contained Squonk Atty
 

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I thought I'd seen most if not all tank designs. I was wrong. I'd love to see pictures of examples of each class. A section with one off/failed/or otherwise weird series of pics would be cool too.

If you were to have enough time to look at everything available right now I bet you would find something new or just released tomorrow~! Just give google a poke.........
 

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@Mattp169 That is a true RDTA Rebuilable Dripping Tank Atomizer. Before you didn't know of any but now you want to tell me about what I own?
 

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@SteveS45 I have two limiteless pluses (plusi- whatever the plural is) I know what an RDTA is. It is in fact many different styles of tanks depending on the manufacturer's use of the term. However I believe the most prevalent use of the term is the ijoy limitless plus,combo etc style
 

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@steveS if there are more atomizers with a glass section on top that you pump the juice down to the coil and the wicks are not self wicking please tell me them. I remember there being an rda that was the reverse of this with a plastic bottle on the bottom to squeeze juice up to the coil. It was the only one of those I ever recall hearing about
 

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You are very welcome @Mattp169 would you like to remote into your machine and type it out for you also? I provided the link just for you though!
 

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why are you muddying up a simple basic explanation of teh COMMON use of the terms for someone needing advice then
 

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Dude you are the one who derailed this thread and who just keeps going. First you said you did not know or could not remember and now you are an expert. I suggested a solution for the OP because there is NOT JUST ONE RIGHT WAY TO VAPE....................
 

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need dictionary for RTA/RBA/RDA and other shortcuts (i am too old for that)

and possible buying guide please how to choose Tank that i can make coils for it?
I have some of the acronyms, terms and entry info compiled here
http://vapingunderground.com/blogs/for-the-new-and-inexperenced-vapor.16/

If you have any questions about anything at all don't be afraid to ask. We all started someplace.
With the multiple vape styles available it can get a little bit intimidating... Don't think of it in terms of how anyone else Vapes, think of what you want to get out of it and start asking questions there.
More importantly, enjoy the journey and let the road decide your Destination.
 
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Mattp169

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Dude you are the one who derailed this thread and who just keeps going. First you said you did not know or could not remember and now you are an expert. I suggested a solution for the OP because there is NOT JUST ONE RIGHT WAY TO VAPE....................
you started with dont forget your favorite RDTA which I already mentioned and explained in my first post and even used ijoy attys as an example.
The gragas may be labeled as an RDTA by the manufacturer, but it does not fit into the common used definition of the term. And you just keep on going not understanding the gragas is different then what most people refer to as an rdta. I asked you for other examples like the gragas with a tank on top you have to pump to get juice to your coil and you give me links to sea coral. SO yea basically all your doing is trying to confuse someone asking for help.
K.I.S.S. The op is just learning and needs help not smart assery to confuse him/her. Help or move on
 

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@Mattp169 like I said at first you did not know and now you seem to be an expert. My suggestion was for the OP to give them a choice. If you disagree fine but you said you did not know so I guess you used google for a couple of hours. Instead of the OP being able to consider this type of RDTA you are confusing the matter with your debating what it is. Want to argue go do it with Oumier

http://oumiervape.com/gragas-rdta-p00020p1.html
 

Mattp169

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actually what you did was post your favorite "The rdta" and post a photo of the gragas, which is so outside of the common understanding of an rdta its ridiculous. so thats confusing to a beginer, and argumentative and contrary with what else was posted prior. Then when i ask about that particular style of atty you go on about attys which are not even remotely the same making it even more confusing for a beginner. And you have yet to provide any other atty that is like the gragas. If you read my original post before you posted the gragas you would have seen I mentioned rdtas, explained what they are commonly used to described, use dijoys as an example and mentioned the aromamizer as something labeled an rdta but is more of an rta. so what you did was just muddy up the waters and be as unhelpful as possible.
 

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Ok... You're both pretty.

If you both were knew and were looking for information would you find this thread helpful still?

Just a rhetorical question
BAM crew
 

SteveS45

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That is the first RDTA that made dripping a pleasure for me and I did not confuse anyone except maybe you @Mattp169. You seem to be the only one who finds it a problem. Something interesting and innovative is confusing? Wow..............
 

Synphul

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I'd say an rdta is more like a dripper than an rta. Rta's the tank is on top and gravity feeds juice to the wicks while the tank is otherwise sealed. Notwithstanding a poor seal at the top they shouldn't leak or at least be leak resistant. Once screwed together it's pretty well contained.

An rdta is more like an rda with a deep well underneath in the form of a glass tank. I say more like an rda because it's basically an rda deck with the coils directly under the top cap (no chimney to speak of), the top cap usually is friction fit and pulls right off (where rta's usually unscrew) and isn't very leak resistant. I guess it would be determined by how much wick is stuffed into the juice holes in the deck but when tipped for too long juice pisses everywhere most of the time and the top isn't very secure.

Not a bad thing, serves a different purpose but if picked up by the atty in the wrong place the cap could slip off, if in the pocket the cap could slip off and then you've got the coils and wicking running around the inside of the pocket picking up lint. Rta's don't do that. It's just vastly different from an rta with tank on the bottom vs top imho.
 

Fozzy

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My favorite RDTA continues to be the 3ml Aromaizer with the velocity style deck. The airflow control sucks but I vape it wide open, so I remove the silicon AFC band completely. Airflow directly hits the coils from the side (you can actually see the coil through 2 of the 4 holes). The 3ml version has a relatively short chimney, like a dripper, to help intensify flavor and when wicked correctly won't leak. Great flavor and good vapor with dual 2.5mm 26 /36 kanthal fused Claptons (vertical build). Some may find its bottom fill design antiquated, but personally I don't mind as it's easy enough to remove the deck to get to any of 8 fill holes. The fill holes are the same holes that will feed juice to the wicks and are adequate enough to handle high VG. Since the deck is removed to refill, it is easy to rewick or replace the coils without having to drain the tank. Lastly, since the Aromamizer has been around a while they can be found for a steal.
 

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i just bought TFV4 Mini for 15$ on ebay cuze it fit the Aster RT can use only 22 tanks and they have to be high tanks too
 

Jane808

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best I can do
RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - this is your dripper atty. it hold sonly the juice the wick holds with maybe a hair under the coils on some RDAs
RTA Rebuilable Tank Atomizer - Like above but there is a glass tank around it that hold 2-20ml of juice(depending on the RTA)
RBA ReBuildable Atomizer - This is usually a piece you install in a atomizer that usually takes premade coils. the RBA section lets you build your own coils
RDTA Rebuildable Dipping Tank Atomizer This is an RTA but the coil sits above the glass tank such as the ijoy RDTA 5 o RDTA 5s or the limitless plus etc etc Some RTAs say they are RDTAs and thats where it gets confusing such as the Aromamizer
GTA - Genisis Tank Atomizer. The original genisis tank resembles more of what I just described as an RDTA. But the GTAs are RTAs where the deck(where you put the coils and wick sit somewhat in the middle of the tank section instead of on top or at the bottom within) this is suppose to mek wicking better

If you are looking for your first RTA style device try any of the geekvape griffins - easy as shit to use and learn on best for dual coil builds for single coil builds try a geekvape ammit

for and RDTA try the limitless plus - cheap as shit nowadays and easy to use.

never used a GTA so cant recommend one
For RDAs theres a bajillion that are good. someone else will recommend one. I like the petri 22m rda

Thanks a lot, really helpful for me.
 

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