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Kizzer49

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Hello everyone! New here. I had a few cig alike batteries years ago. Just recently bought and mvp 2.0 and im loving it. So far I have a iclear 30, aspire k1, and aspire nautilus mini for tanks. Also a stillare RDA clone. Been off the lung darts for a month or so not keeping count.

I am looking to upgrade to something with more watts, I really like the eleaf istick but is 20 watts enough for now or should I look into maybe a 30 watt mod or even a 50watt? Im looking for something affordable no $200 dollar mods maybe even a clone. I guess im just trying to figure out how many watts ill need?
 

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Me, I would go with one of the 30 watt Hana Clones.

That will give you plenty of power to grow with and gives you the option of replacing the battery.
 

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depends entirely how you are going to vape. low ohm rdas need higher wattage (30-70w), high ohm tanks need lower wattage (5-20w)
 

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Well im getting into rdas, prolly just dual coils. Ill be picking up RTAS someday to. I dont if ill do much sub ohm type builds though.
 

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Im leaning towards a 30 or 50 watt device... I like the look of the ipv or ipv 2.
 
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depends entirely how you are going to vape. low ohm rdas need higher wattage (30-70w), high ohm tanks need lower wattage (5-20w)
This ^ The power range that most dual coil drippers can easily handle extends well north of 50 watts. For a single, do it all, regulated device you'd need a 100 watt device. Or to cover all bases, a 30 watt regulated box for rebuildable tank stuff and a mech for high power dripping and backup is an option. If you're gonna buy a hot rod (rda), why not put a hot rod motor under the hood? 50 watts limits a dual coil rda's potential.
Either way, a cheap mech ensures you have power when you want it. That way the box you choose isn't the only power option you have.
 

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Yeah im wanting a 100 watt, im thinking i might pick up a hana v3 clone. Got em around 40 bucks on a few sites for black friday. I got plans on getting a 100 watt when I get a bit more cash.for a mech mod. I love how they look. I guess they just make me a bit nervous.
 

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Focalecig has a decent 30 watt hana clone and right now they have a nemesis clone for $9.90. A mech is as safe as you make it.
 

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Focalecig has a decent 30 watt hana clone and right now they have a nemesis clone for $9.90. A mech is as safe as you make it.
those focal hana clones are pieces of shit, they dont regulate wattage. toss a half way dead battery in there and u can tell big time. i have no idea whats going on in that chip
 

Kizzer49

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I really like the sigelei 100watt and was set on it. But i guess alot of them have a problem with the pin!?
 

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Me, I would go with one of the 30 watt Hana Clones.

That will give you plenty of power to grow with and gives you the option of replacing the battery.
I agree, they are cheap, 30 watts of power and will last a while
 

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Yeah i waa checking out the zna clone pretty sweet.
It is sweet, the 18490 will last a workday at 15 watts, but if your drip or go to 25+ watts, carry a spare battery. I've been using the 18650 tube with 3100mah efest 20 amp batteries and get a couple days out of it before recharge.
 

Kizzer49

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I been planning on getting something smaller too like that or the eleaf istick as well as a larger box mod.
 

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I pride myself on being a thrifty vaper in that I have few issues with going the Clone Route and have many of them. One of my daily used mods is the 30W Hana Clone and the only real complaint that I have is that it mis-fires now and then, but I do still use it and would recommend to others. I also agree with Zamazam in that the ZNA Clones are awesome, and that particular one he listed is really really good. That being said, I decided I was going to treat myself for Christmas this year and was lucky enough to find a VAPOR FLASK DNA40 and I'm so excited I can't stand it. Long story short, I got the device 2 weeks ago and the one I received had some issues, which the Manufacturer quickly addressed. My fully working (hopefully) replacement should be here in my hot little hands this coming Tuesday.
 

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More watts maybe not fit you . You can choose the way fit you .
 

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The Drip Club has the Authentic Paragon V3 for $89.99 today. That's seems like a great deal.
Also, Vapor Kings has the ELeaf iStick for $30 for Cyber Monday today.
 

Kizzer49

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Im still on the fence. There will prolly be something new by the time i get cash for a new setup. Ut i know its either gonna be a 50watt or 100.
 

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Im still on the fence. There will prolly be something new by the time i get cash for a new setup. Ut i know its either gonna be a 50watt or 100.
I would pick a Sigelei 100watt. I've heard great things. I want one myself. Just remember a 100watt device can go down to 50watts but a 50 can't go up to 100.
 

Kizzer49

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Thats very true! I was just worried about the size and carrying it all day. Most likely with a lemo, or something comparable.
 

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I recently purchased the MVP 20w for $31.99 shipped and have found it quite nice...ive been building and trying different ohm coils down to 1.3ohm and found i needed less power as it didnt take as much wire to build 1.3ohm as opposed to a 2.3 ohm using the same gauge wire (30g)...i used 8 watts or less for 1.8 ohm or less and i use 10w for the 2.3 ohm but its a much more flavorful vape due to more surface area covering the wick.

Unless you plan to go less than 1.0 ohm, 20 watts is more than enough power to handle most any basic tank with a good coil inside it.

I purchased a nemesis clone to try my subohm adventures..Should i find it something i like then i may upgrade to more power with an mvp 30watt as its safer than mech mods in general..Ill sell the nemesis and 2 authentic Sony VTC5 batteries and nitecore i2 charger to help pay for it all...Nothing really lost or wasted.

My mvp 20watt will always have a home to my basic tanks

Just some insight about the H ana modz clone from fasttech..Its a 50/ 50 shot really that you will get one with no issues..some report firing issues and error codes on them..So hopefully if you try one you get a good one...I would personally wait and see what the cost of the new mvp 30 watt will be before buying one unless a built in dedicated battery is an issue for you.
 

Kizzer49

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I hear ya! I got the MVP 2, just recently got the istick 20. I got a 1.5 ohm micro coil in her now. I use anywhere from 10.5 to 15 watts. I enjoy the vape! With the right e liquid. Thats why im considering maybe a nice solid 50watt. Im considering mire power cuz Im gonna be getting rebuildables. I also wanna try some dual coil set ups with a lil thicker wire.
 

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Fair enough.

Ill take that mvp off your hands for the right price if you decide to get rid of it :)
 

Kizzer49

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Lol. Mine actually has a problen with the pin. I had to stick a o-ring under it so it wouldnt short out...

I think I was screwing my tanks down to tight. I just have a aspire k1 mini on it. And I just broke my Nautilus glass. So Im pretty much dripping. Lol


The only thing with a 50 watt it im worried the battery wont laat long if I am running it at 25 or 35 watts all day sense it only has one battery
 

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An even better price for me then :)...let me know...lol
 

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Lol. Mine actually has a problen with the pin. I had to stick a o-ring under it so it wouldnt short out...

I think I was screwing my tanks down to tight. I just have a aspire k1 mini on it. And I just broke my Nautilus glass. So Im pretty much dripping. Lol


The only thing with a 50 watt it im worried the battery wont laat long if I am running it at 25 or 35 watts all day sense it only has one battery
Well im getting into rdas, prolly just dual coils. Ill be picking up RTAS someday to. I dont if ill do much sub ohm type builds though.

You dont need anywhere near 50w if you arent going to sub ohm...your i stick can support 1 ohm..An mvp 20 watt is known to fire down to .80 ohm even though rated for 1 ohm max...the mvp is also rated 2.0 volts more in voltage mode which if im not mistaken means the mvp is more capable than rated...

I did a 1.3 ohm on my evod tank and it was more than i expected...i moved up on ohms...i like 1.7 to 1.8 range and keep power down because i use a thinner gauge wire (30g) to build my coils...longer battery life and still a great vape with flavor and clouds..i could use even less power with 32g wire....Sub ohm with thick gauge wire is really what super high wattage devices are intended for..doesnt mean you cant have a good vape with less power and thinner coils...you can make any tank you like whatever ohm you want really within reason...space inside the coil head will determine its limits..

I can get 11 wraps of 30g in my evod...tried 12 and 13 and think i had some issues...11 wraps is a killer coil flavor wise in a basic kanger single coil tank and chucked out some vapor as i have my breather holes drilled out to 5/64...Ive seen some rba's not produce as much vapor as i have on youtube and its more a mild lung hitter now as opposed to a mouth to lung type draw...I can do an easy 3 second lung hit and its better than the evod was a full 7 seconds straining to draw in air with stock holes....i try a 10 second lung hit on the kanger now and i choke on it...thats why i personally am not seeing super high power cloud chasing devices in my future...You may find you like it however and thats all good.

Bottom line is you can find alot of vapor and flavor with lesser power and thinner coils if you wanted to...the thinner the coil is the less power it takes to heat it and you use less power at lower ohms than you would a thicker wire at the same ohms....Its an alternative path is all..less costly one at that.

EXAMPLE:..6 wraps of 30g gave me 1.3ohm...11 wraps gives me 2.3ohm...at 1.3 ohm i used less power to get the vape i liked..at 2.3ohm i needed more power because it took more wire but gave me better flavor...Dont base power needed on just ohms but more so on wire thickness and how much of it is used....If i did 6 wraps on 26g i would have less ohms but need the added power only because the wire is thicker..not because its less ohms.

Now, the general consensus is ,the more wire covering the wick the better the flavor is and more vapor you can produce..So if had room to build a 20 wrap coil on 30g i could..but the ohms would be so high it would take an extreme amount of power to fire it ..so im going backwards in a sense...So people move to a thicker gauge and use less wraps but with more wick coverage...Its a give and take with coils and power needed...Im still learning more about it everyday...but i know enough to know i dont need 100 watts or even 50watts to blow some decent vapor and get great flavor.

Dual coils naturally use alot more wire so more power is needed to fire double the wire you would have with a single coil at any ohms...Ill be seeing how much more as im getting a 1.5ohm emow tank from fasttech...ill build a single 1.5ohm and compare the difference in power needed to fire them to get the same vape.

Battery life equals low ohms on thin gauge wire ,on a single coil.

Prepare to buy alot of juice with the rba as well... a good RTA seems to be the way to go... a kanger subtank mini is in my future...1.5 ohm 28g kanthal build for coils...maybe 11 12watts of power needed if that...ill enjoy that on my mvp i think.
 
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Kizzer49

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You dont need anywhere near 50w if you arent going to sub ohm...your i stick can support 1 ohm..An mvp 20 watt is known to fire down to .80 ohm even though rated for 1 ohm max...the mvp is also rated 2.0 volts more in voltage mode which if im not mistaken means the mvp is more capable than rated...

I did a 1.3 ohm on my evod tank and it was more than i expected...i moved up on ohms...i like 1.7 to 1.8 range and keep power down because i use a thinner gauge wire (30g) to build my coils...longer battery life and still a great vape with flavor and clouds..i could use even less power with 32g wire....Sub ohm with thick gauge wire is really what super high wattage devices are intended for..doesnt mean you cant have a good vape with less power and thinner coils...you can make any tank you like whatever ohm you want really within reason...space inside the coil head will determine its limits..

I can get 11 wraps of 30g in my evod...tried 12 and 13 and think i had some issues...11 wraps is a killer coil flavor wise in a basic kanger single coil tank and chucked out some vapor as i have my breather holes drilled out to 5/64...Ive seen some rba's not produce as much vapor as i have on youtube and its more a mild lung hitter now as opposed to a mouth to lung type draw...I can do an easy 3 second lung hit and its better than the evod was a full 7 seconds straining to draw in air with stock holes....i try a 10 second lung hit on the kanger now and i choke on it...thats why i personally am not seeing super high power cloud chasing devices in my future...You may find you like it however and thats all good.

Bottom line is you can find alot of vapor and flavor with lesser power and thinner coils if you wanted to...the thinner the coil is the less power it takes to heat it and you use less power at lower ohms than you would a thicker wire at the same ohms....Its an alternative path is all..less costly one at that.

EXAMPLE:..6 wraps of 30g gave me 1.3ohm...11 wraps gives me 2.3ohm...at 1.3 ohm i used less power to get the vape i liked..at 2.3ohm i needed more power because it took more wire but gave me better flavor...Dont base power needed on just ohms but more so on wire thickness and how much of it is used....If i did 6 wraps on 26g i would have less ohms but need the added power only because the wire is thicker..not because its less ohms.

Now, the general consensus is ,the more wire covering the wick the better the flavor is and more vapor you can produce..So if had room to build a 20 wrap coil on 30g i could..but the ohms would be so high it would take an extreme amount of power to fire it ..so im going backwards in a sense...So people move to a thicker gauge and use less wraps but with more wick coverage...Its a give and take with coils and power needed...Im still learning more about it everyday...but i know enough to know i dont need 100 watts or even 50watts to blow some decent vapor and get great flavor.

Dual coils naturally use alot more wire so more power is needed to fire double the wire you would have with a single coil at any ohms...Ill be seeing how much more as im getting a 1.5ohm emow tank from fasttech...ill build a single 1.5ohm and compare the difference in power needed to fire them to get the same vape.

Battery life equals low ohms on thin gauge wire ,on a single coil.

Prepare to buy alot of juice with the rba as well... a good RTA seems to be the way to go... a kanger mini is in my future...1.5 ohm 28g kanthal build for coils...maybe 15 watts of power needed...ill enjoy that on my mvp i think.


yeah I hear ya I have messed with 30 gauge alot for my mvp, I like the 28 gauge. Im prolly gonna be trying sub ohm. Not real liw maybe .8 builds.

Ill be messing with thicker wire and 28 gauge twisted wire. I enjoy tinkering a bit
 

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I think a 30w is good for.5 or slightly less.
 

Kizzer49

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Im pretty set on 50 or 100 watt just godda decide. I was looking at the smok box mods anyone have any experience with them?
 

Kizzer49

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I ended up ordering a buncha goodies today!
Sigelei 150 a couple of samsung 25r batteries, a efest luc v4 charger, some new size kanthal and some new cotton today! Oh and some new juices. Pretty pumped and excited for the new equipment.

Only problem. JJVapes some how shipped mt mod out and it says to my old address... I clearly changed it when I ordered it and its even in my confirmation. But then when they sent me the shipped email it says my old address... I hope its a typo. Lol
 

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Personally-i would overshoot. You don't wanna spend $100 now on a 80w mod and then have to drop another $120 on a 150w mod in a month. Why not just buy a box that will let you build low? If you end up going that way with your RDAs then you will already be equipped for it, and if you don't end up building low then you can still use it regardless. Something like a Sigelei box or IPV. You have the flexibility and protection on those devices to do whatever you please. Even a Sigelei 100w plus is now around $100 or less.
 

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Disregard haha, i missed your last post about your order. Great choice!
Yeah its exactly what i did. Lol got a nice r bay charger as well. I plan on getting a mech soon as well to try them out. I been going back ans forth on what to order finally this morning i said fuck it lol.
 

Kizzer49

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So i order my mod. They send it to California my old address even though I changed all my Information and in there confirmation email it said ship to new york. Then the people that are going to get it that Im going to habe them ship it back to the company wont be able to do it till Wednesday.

I wont even see it till next monday prolly. The shit that happens to me.

Sorry i need to rant, im impatient whem shit like this happens. Especially when i could of had something today.
 

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