Rick M
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It took forever !!! I see people spin Aliens like I spin a clapton , haha. I dont know how they do it. Thanks for the props. Im spinning up some de cores right now to try some more
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It's a matter of consistent practice. Once you get the stretch and tension down it's just as easy as running regular claps. I do aliens at full speed, though my drill only does 1200rpm. I know people who do them at 3600 rpms.
Think that's gotta be the next purchase. Make setting up even quickerAbsolutely - I also have these tubes to hold a crapload of straightened core wires. I have one each for 26, 28, 30 gauge wire in KA1, N80, and SS316L.
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Rick M
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What if you want to Alien wrap a stack of ribbon....Say an 8 or 10 stack of .4 ribbon , what size decore do you need. Ive heard 3 to 1 ratio but im not sure about all of this.. Especially with ribbon. I should probably just keep trying 3 core Aliens until I get it down but progression is inevitable I see , hehe
Unless the depth is more than the width you can use the same ratio. It can get wonky sometimes with close numbers (I've had problems doing 4 ply .3r).
Rick M
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I found myself holding my breath , hehe. By the time I got a solid 10 inches worth of usable wire i was about to pass out , haha. Aliens are so worth it though. Im loving these that I made.
My first Alien try looked like something exploded on my core wires lol
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Rick M
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Wow !! That is so awesome. I just ordered a ton of N80 so i can try to get some color in my builds. My problem with Nichrome is I build coils for toaster ovens , haha. They ohm at .04 or something.....Im getting it figured out. That VapeTool app has really helped me to organize my wireNow they look like this in just a couple minutes lol
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Rick M
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Cool, thank you. I will add some to my wrap wire collection for sure. I tell you , looking at the stuff in this thread will sure give you inspiration. The Aliens you just showed me will make me practice for sure. I fight like crazy to keep my cores flat and straight but your coils have that cool shape to them. Maybe im doing something wrong.
Ribbon is .1mm thick. So 8 would be .8mm wide. Add two pieces for the rail, 26g is .4 each, so
.8+.4+.4 =1.6mm. Divide that by three for the alien core size. 24g would be about .5mm.
My first alien, from April this year
Rick M
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Nice ! I like the way they perform and the way they look. You have that cool wavy look too. Im doing something wrong I thinkMy first alien, from April this year
Rick M
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Heck yeah ! Thanks. I see what your doing there.
Rick M
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What is the material list for this coil right here, if you dont mind saying??? I put 3 cores in mine...Is there only 2 in this one ? I want that twisty/wavy look in mine. I have the Alien effect but its too "core stable" or something. Im missing something I just cant put my finger on it. Ive got a way to go , heheNow they look like this in just a couple minutes lol
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Bigger decores give a more pronounced "S". If you decore from a slightly bigger gauge, and stretch a smidge less, you will get more of a wave. A bang on standard 1/3 alien
Rick M
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Gotcha , thanks. Im gonna give it a shot. So could I do 3 / 26g cores and get my de-core off of 24g ?
That's a Framed Staple Alien. 2x26 gauge frames Nichrome 80, 9x.4 Nichrome 80 ribbon stacked on it's side, and SS316L 36 gauge Alien wrap.
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Yes you can. But it can be more difficult to wrap if your not already comfortable with aliens..
Rick M
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Thank you man. Im gonna get my wire prep done and give it a spin. I dont have the 36ss but I have N80. Cant wait to get this one under my belt
Rick M
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HAHAHA , I better just stick to the basics then. I will get there though. Im having a ton of fun , hehe
I do it all the time for the extra swooshy swooshy lol
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For those interlocks I use a single spool. Its a trick I started doing a long time ago.
Single Spool Interlock Technique:
First Clapton like you normally would. When you finish the clapton unhook the beginning and run the drill in reverse to loosen it up a bit, it needs to be able to slide easily. Then reattach the original clapton back onto the hook then attach a second clapton to the hook and clapton again, it should force this second clapton between the last. When you reach the end of the first clapton twists the ends together and then cut the second from the spool. Unhook the clapton from the hook at the beginning and twist those together. Reverse the drill to loosen it up and slide it off as normal.
Make sure your first clapton only takes up 50-60% of your core wire, it will need the rest of the room for the added wire on the second clapton.
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I see
nice one Raymo. I'll have to try that out because paraclaptons just laugh at me... While I scream at the bench hahaSent from my MI MAX 2 using Tapatalk
Rick M
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This is gonna soun dumb but what gauge are you getting the decore off of. I want to make sure im not missing anything in prep for thisSet of Fraliens in the Drop Dead RDA. 2x26 Ka1 frames, 7x.4 Ka1 cores, 36 SS316L Alien wrap. .12 ohms
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I do the triple and Quads the same way but then paraclapping for the second part, its just easier to do and makes it more consistent in my findings.I seenice one Raymo. I'll have to try that out because paraclaptons just laugh at me... While I scream at the bench haha
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24g is correct. If I want extra swooshy, I use 22g
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SO MUCH TRUTH!! This is the only way to do it. This is also how I stagger. Pics HERE (post #137)
Superb. Really does make doing Aliens a breeze when you can just grab a decore and crack on. I can't leave mine up in place like that but I do need some longer envelopes as the finer gauge wraps tend to take a longer decore
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Superb. Really does make doing Aliens a breeze when you can just grab a decore and crack on. I can't leave mine up in place like that but I do need some longer envelopes as the finer gauge wraps tend to take a longer decoreI like ziplok bags, small bags inside big bags, as long as I put 1 in at a time, they don't tangle, somehow
I know right? I about fell over when i saw that!!
In my experience, a gauge lower decore actually makes the alien making easier, up to the coiling part - the alien wrap will be loose, but you can crimp the ends (fold in half with pliers and squeeze) to keep the alien wrap from slipping around
Welcome back @KarmicRage , I sure am happy you're back
awesome build pics, too
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Nice one @Pegleg Meg good to be back at it again. Been too long though, feeling rusty with anything other than Aliens and their variations need to start working in other directions again I think. Thank you for the welcome back, it's appreciated
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good to be back at it again. Been too long though, feeling rusty with anything other than Aliens and their variations need to start working in other directions again I think. Thank you for the welcome back, it's appreciatedSent from my MI MAX 2 using Tapatalk
welcome back/great builds/missed you 
My first interlock. Was easier than I thought!
5x28,2x36 ss316. 3mm, .13 ohms
And some 4x28 aliens
Aaand a framed staple
5x28,2x36 ss316. 3mm, .13 ohms
And some 4x28 aliens
Aaand a framed staple
Very nice!! People seem to be so scared of interlocks before they try them. If your proficient with aliens then interlocking comes just about as easy.My first interlock. Was easier than I thought!
5x28,2x36 ss316. 3mm, .13 ohms
And some 4x28 aliens
Aaand a framed staple
I want to try a fralien in an ares mtl rta. What wire would you recommend for this build? I gotta get on par with some of you on this forum. It may be difficult and working with some small ass wire. Recommendations please. Wanna try something other than a twisted or a parallel.
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First of all Hi. Second I would advise you went with a regular 3 core alien to start off with. Generally fraliens are easier to get to stay straight when fusing but once you're down into the MTL sizes I.E. 30g and smaller you would need to use .2 ribbon wire, which is finicky as fuck even if you know what you're doing with ribbon wire. You could pull off a .3 ribbon fralien but I don't think you would get many wraps in there and would have more chance of touching the deck depending on your fuse wire. I don't own the ares so you might have more room to play with than I can picture in my head. Also a regular high gauge fused Clapton could work well for you. It's a parallel build but the wrap wire makes the coil act slightly different. Just my opinions dude.
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