Not that I understand that one either, but I'll get the blankets out of the closet and you can sleep on our really crappy couch. Mail? A reference to cacao and customs?When the mail arrives, I may be, sooner than expected.....![]()
Not that I understand that one either, but I'll get the blankets out of the closet and you can sleep on our really crappy couch. Mail? A reference to cacao and customs?When the mail arrives, I may be, sooner than expected.....![]()
Indeed....and I have a camper that fits on the toyota, plus one I can drag.......Not that I understand that one either, but I'll get the blankets out of the closet and you can sleep on our really crappy couch. Mail? A reference to cacao and customs?

OK, we'll park ya next to the garage so you can plug in and have some heat.Indeed....and I have a camper that fits on the Toyota, plus one I can drag.......![]()
Today's assholes just don't care.
Most are just out to draw a check.Well, gee, Crom, I was a weather forecaster in the USAF before there were computers or even satellite maps. We didn't have "billions of data points" to work with, but maybe a few dozen reporting stations upstream in the weather patterns and I was usually accurate to within five minutes of when the wind, rain, thunderstorms, whatever would start and stop. Why can't they do it today? Simple: They don't give a rat's ass because you complaining about them is not going to change their over-priced salary and certainly won't cause them to lose their jobs. Why were we accurate? We had pride in our jobs and beliefs that we should do the absolute best possible analysis at all times. Today's assholes just don't care.
SSDD - actually, didn't get squat done because of the weather. I need this frickin' snow gone, the lakes in the pastures gone, some sunshine to dry out the ground... I have to totally rebuild the cross-fence between pastures, etcHow was your day, Rich?
I agree. My question is "Why did this happen?" As long as I had a job, no matter how menial it might have been, I always did the best I could do. So what changed in our society to make everyone money-grubbing lazy bastards? Do we blame Facebook again?Professional pride is going away.
Seems to me the younger generation believe they are entitled to everything, no work necessary. I don't have any pity for the useless idgets.I agree. My question is "Why did this happen?" As long as I had a job, no matter how menial it might have been, I always did the best I could do. So what changed in our society to make everyone money-grubbing lazy bastards? Do we blame Facebook again?
Many reasons that I will not go into because they may touch on politics, Media, capitalism, liberalism, religion, etc.SSDD - actually, didn't get squat done because of the weather. I need this frickin' snow gone, the lakes in the pastures gone, some sunshine to dry out the ground... I have to totally rebuild the cross-fence between pastures, etc
I agree. My question is "Why did this happen?" As long as I had a job, no matter how menial it might have been, I always did the best I could do. So what changed in our society to make everyone money-grubbing lazy bastards? Do we blame Facebook again?
I believe that is called Socialism, but we don't talk politics here...the younger generation believe they are entitled to everything, no work necessary.
I agree, and the sad part is, I see even the older folks in retail (those who are older but still young enough to have jobs) seem to have adopted this "don't give a shit" attitude. That would suggest it isn't merely a generational issue, but that there is influence from some other source, like their bosses gave them a directive to say "fuck off" to the customers. Has anyone reading this thread had an employer tell them not to care, or not to be responsive, or anything like that?seems like shit is getting worse by the day, not the decade.
Ohh it is accelerating.Also seems like shit is getting worse by the day, not the decade.
I've been self employed all my adult life.... if any employee had an attitude, they'd be lookin for a new job.I believe that is called Socialism, but we don't talk politics here...
I agree, and the sad part is, I see even the older folks in retail (those who are older but still young enough to have jobs) seem to have adopted this "don't give a shit" attitude. That would suggest it isn't merely a generational issue, but that there is influence from some other source, like their bosses gave them a directive to say "fuck off" to the customers. Has anyone reading this thread had an employer tell them not to care, or not to be responsive, or anything like that?
I think the last thing I read on that was the "average" country only lasts a couple hundred years before it fails and has to start over, usually as something else that also will fail.No civilization/empire has lasted very long in the scheme of things.
I believe that is called Socialism, but we don't talk politics here...
I agree, and the sad part is, I see even the older folks in retail (those who are older but still young enough to have jobs) seem to have adopted this "don't give a shit" attitude. That would suggest it isn't merely a generational issue, but that there is influence from some other source, like their bosses gave them a directive to say "fuck off" to the customers. Has anyone reading this thread had an employer tell them not to care, or not to be responsive, or anything like that?
Didn't you work for Lowes or Home Despots or someone? What would you say the atmosphere was like while you were there?This knowledge kinda kills employee loyalty
Yep.Didn't you work for Lowes or Home Despots or someone? What would you say the atmosphere was like while you were there?
Krogers did the same thing here.Oh I forgot to mention...was in Walmart this past weekend, the employees wanted-demanded raises....now all but two lanes are self check-out, no more cashiers.....![]()
It's really easy to dislike people who think you should be shining their shoes while trying to find the nut to fit their bolt....!Where I learned to hate people...
I think the last thing I read on that was the "average" country only lasts a couple hundred years before it fails and has to start over, usually as something else that also will fail.
No use to be in a big rush at Wally world.

I really am seriously trying to understand this (or the psychology behind it). I assume the employer cut benefits to increase their own profits (I call that greed and it happens on all levels). Same answer for cutting staff levels and making those who are still there do more to compensate. So the company makes more money and the employees are pissed and do not do their jobs with the same pride and caring they used to have. That, and the fact that the store raised all their prices creates that customer you spoke about - he is pissed that he has to pay more for the same nuts and bolts while being waited on by a doofus who doesn't really want to be there, so the customer gets pissed and acts like an asshole. Viscous circle. But, at the same time, I do not see ALL the problems being generated by corporate greed... their taxes went up, they were forced to get rid of health plans, etc. There are a lot of reasons companies do things that we cannot see without deeper investigation.The rude ones were by far the customers at the store I worked in.
And the benefits decreased quite a bit while I was there.
And they cut lots of heads after I left. A reorg that required the ones left to do more for the same money with fewer better paying slots to move up into.
I really am seriously trying to understand this (or the psychology behind it). I assume the employer cut benefits to increase their own profits (I call that greed and it happens on all levels). Same answer for cutting staff levels and making those who are still there do more to compensate. So the company makes more money and the employees are pissed and do not do their jobs with the same pride and caring they used to have. That, and the fact that the store raised all their prices creates that customer you spoke about - he is pissed that he has to pay more for the same nuts and bolts while being waited on by a doofus who doesn't really want to be there, so the customer gets pissed and acts like an asshole. Viscous circle. But, at the same time, I do not see ALL the problems being generated by corporate greed... their taxes went up, they were forced to get rid of health plans, etc. There are a lot of reasons companies do things that we cannot see without deeper investigation.
But let's go back to what started this and my anger at today's weather forecasters. They have computer programs that do all the work (even if it still creates the wrong forecast). We had to have the equivalent of a degree in atmospheric physics and today's weather folk call themselves "meteorologists" (sacrilege) when they have no professional training except how to pose in front of a TV camera and read a script (and that sometimes badly). So what is their excuse? Or people in a similar job? Engineers design things. They might have good pay, but even they seem to have a worse attitude than they used to. Why?
...the 1% is usually related to a bizarre customer, but they seem to be few and far between (in my business anyway)I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I keep seeing further back and place a great deal of blame on Dr. Spock (thou shalt not spank thy child) and the parents developing beliefs that their children should always have it better than they had it, which seems to have developed a condition where the children started to believe they did not have to do anything and the whole world owed them something. When I got a driver's license and wanted my own car, the answer was simple: get a damn job and buy one for yourself ($50 for a 1956 Oldsmobile 88). Today, the kids expect their parents to buy them a car, and not an old used piece of crap like I got, but a brand new sporty car. Maybe we should drop the hammer and quit spoiling the little brats...since the computer age went nuts with social media, things have changed so much
Ahh but Lowes works to get rid of those who have learned and moved up the pay scale.I've noticed the older folks who work at Home Depot or Lowes seem to be the cream of the crop, the younger pholks don't know the difference between a nut and a bolt....they just look you in the eye like a junkyard dog when asked a simple question.
Maybe we should drop the hammer and quit spoiling the little brats...
I wouldn't doubt it, Bob.Ahh but Lowes works to get rid of those who have learned and moved up the pay scale.
They like the cheaper labor of the young.
their latest reorg did away with 1/2 of their dept managers and specialists.
Find a new position or out the door.
Good to see ya, hope you don't hurt yer foot kicking things.Just a quick stop in to let you know I am still kickin
i bought my first car when I was 15 for a high school project, it had a cracked head, paid 10 bucks for it , replaced the head and drove it for a year and a half, it was a 1954 chevy two door sedanI'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I keep seeing further back and place a great deal of blame on Dr. Spock (thou shalt not spank thy child) and the parents developing beliefs that their children should always have it better than they had it, which seems to have developed a condition where the children started to believe they did not have to do anything and the whole world owed them something. When I got a driver's license and wanted my own car, the answer was simple: get a damn job and buy one for yourself ($50 for a 1956 Oldsmobile 88). Today, the kids expect their parents to buy them a car, and not an old used piece of crap like I got, but a brand new sporty car. Maybe we should drop the hammer and quit spoiling the little brats...
Good to hear from you, Jimi....!Just a quick stop in to let you know I am still kickin
My first was a Rambler American, forget the age. Bought it for about $75, it needed a radiator and a head gasket.i bought my first car when I was 15 for a high school project, it had a cracked head, paid 10 bucks for it , replaced the head and drove it for a year and a half, it was a 1954 chevy two door sedan
How you been Robert, I'll be sure to wear my steel toe bootsGood to see ya, hope you don't hurt yer foot kicking things.

Remember the push button shift?My first was a Rambler American, forget the age. Bought it for about $75, it needed a radiator and a head gasket.
Mine had a "three on the tree"......How you been Robert, I'll be sure to wear my steel toe boots
Remember the push button shift?


Oh so do I, this one came from the gas station owner up the street, body was like a rock,looked good, be worth a pretty penny todayWish I had a few 54 chevys NOW.....![]()
My mom had a push button piece of junk, I think it was a 59Mine had a "three on the tree"......
But I do remember the push button models......![]()
Had 55 and 56 two door chevys....damn sure wish I had um NOW.Oh so do I, this one came from the gas station owner up the street, body was like a rock,looked good, be worth a pretty penny today