The Atheists Thread...A place for Logical, Rational and Scientific thinking with facts

[TheWestPole]

She has a new tv show out too.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3565996/

Indeed. I was trying to convince my friends of this six years ago. All you need to understand about Palin is to suppose that more than anything she desires to be the Oprah of the far right. Unfortunately for her, she's turned out to be more like the Minnie Pearl of the Tea Party.

 

[No Ash More Cash]

It takes a lot to shock me but I just came across this...I'm guessing YT thought I might be interested in it from the searches I have been doing and this video showed up on the right side in "Recommendations"
I'm in full agreement with FOX News on this one and they are going on real Facts and truths...If this is old news for a lot of you I apologize but this is new to me

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Wouldnt "Atheist Spirituality" be a non sequitir? I was under the impression that "spirituality" has no place in the Atheist mind.

I don't like the term myself, but it's nebulous enough to mean just about anything without requiring a belief in actual spirits.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

It takes a lot to shock me but I just came across this...I'm guessing YT thought I might be interested in it from the searches I have been doing and this video showed up on the right side in "Recommendations"
I'm in full agreement with FOX News on this one and they are going on real Facts and truths...If this is old news for a lot of you I apologize but this is new to me

Yeah, it's the Democrats, unfortunately, who have the bigger problem with e-cigarettes.

 

[TheWestPole]

Yeah, it's the Democrats, unfortunately, who have the bigger problem with e-cigarettes.

Sadly yes. Even though the deepest pockets lobbying against PVs are those of the tobacco industry, which bankrolls both parties.

 

[No Ash More Cash]

Yeah, it's the Democrats, unfortunately, who have the bigger problem with e-cigarettes.

This Country really needs a true 3rd 4th...etc parties...They are both as bad/corrupt as each other...I have said this before but with just a 2 party system you might as well flip a coin ...it's just a shared monopoly

 

[No Ash More Cash]

Sadly yes. Even though the deepest pockets lobbying against PVs are those of the tobacco industry, which bankrolls both parties.

This relates to my last post

 

[No Ash More Cash]

WTF where they thinking and what was the point of this?...What a cruel thing to do!!! I hope the people responsible for it got in trouble but I have a feeling nothing came off it...What a stupid and idiotic thing to do to such a creature...That bird must of been in so much fear with all that shouting and noise...Shame on them all!!
Eagle Tries to Escape from Evangelical Christians

 

[MKPM]

I would wager that it was expertly handled, as the video shows it merely flying a pattern in a building. I really saw no evidence that it was trying to escape. Federal law mandates that the Bald Eagle only can be held captive if it is in some health related danger, or is unable to live in the wild due to health issues. Would you have posted the video if it had been flying around at a zoo? Convention centre? Or is the significance more that it was a Church? Tell the truth! It is worth noting that the "related videos" afterward are anti-Christian. It's probably just a coincidence and this thread is not about that.....right?

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Did you miss the part where the bird smacked a window and fell?

 

[Midniteoyl]

Did you miss the part where the bird smacked a window and fell?

The question was.. Would it have been posted if it wasnt in a church?

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Not in an atheist thread. But anybody would be faulted for releasing an eagle like that.

 

[No Ash More Cash]

I would wager that it was expertly handled, as the video shows it merely flying a pattern in a building. I really saw no evidence that it was trying to escape. Federal law mandates that the Bald Eagle only can be held captive if it is in some health related danger, or is unable to live in the wild due to health issues. Would you have posted the video if it had been flying around at a zoo? Convention centre? Or is the significance more that it was a Church? Tell the truth! It is worth noting that the "related videos" afterward are anti-Christian. It's probably just a coincidence and this thread is not about that.....right?

Did you miss the part where the bird smacked a window and fell?

This^^^^

 

[No Ash More Cash]

I would wager that it was expertly handled, as the video shows it merely flying a pattern in a building. I really saw no evidence that it was trying to escape. Federal law mandates that the Bald Eagle only can be held captive if it is in some health related danger, or is unable to live in the wild due to health issues. Would you have posted the video if it had been flying around at a zoo? Convention centre? Or is the significance more that it was a Church? Tell the truth! It is worth noting that the "related videos" afterward are anti-Christian. It's probably just a coincidence and this thread is not about that.....right?

Did you hear people laughing about it crashing into the window?...I know for a fact I wouldn't of been...In fact the whole thing makes me sick!
Another view of it with people laughing

 

[Midniteoyl]

But again, if this was a University hall instead of a church, would you have posted it and been so disgusted?

 

[No Ash More Cash]

The question was.. Would it have been posted if it wasnt in a church?

Wasn't a Church...it was at Oral Roberts University a Christian college based in Tulsa, Okla

 

[No Ash More Cash]

But again, if this was a University hall instead of a church, would you have posted it and been so disgusted?

I did my homework...see my last post

 

[No Ash More Cash]

Please note and I'm not shocked by this...NO laughing was mentioned in the "Christian Post" http://www.christianpost.com/news/b...rn-to-screams-amid-startling-accident-103105/

 

[Midniteoyl]

Wasn't a Church...it was at Oral Roberts University a Christian college based in Tulsa, Okla

But it was Christian and it was in the Chapel..

 

[No Ash More Cash]

But it was Christian and it was in the Chapel..

Yes and people thought it was funny and that wasn't reported in the CP...your point being?

 

[No Ash More Cash]

I guess only reporting peoples "screams of horror" and not the people laughing is fair and balanced...God forbid making Christians look bad

 

[TheWestPole]

Quick check:

Agnostics/Atheists are becoming a bit too populous for me. Come Pesach, gonna spend some quality time with the 0.2% tribe.

 

[MKPM]

I guess only reporting peoples "screams of horror" and not the people laughing is fair and balanced...God forbid making Christians look bad

WHO forbid?

 

[Midniteoyl]

I guess only reporting peoples "screams of horror" and not the people laughing is fair and balanced...God forbid making Christians look bad

Thats not what I meant.. However, the first one says Eagle Tries to Escape from Evangelical Christians... As if 1) they only want to escape from Christians and 2) It was a Church currently Evangelizing and thus, I was asking if it didnt say that, would you have posted it? If it had said 'Eagle tries to escape from "Leftie UCLA Wacko's", would you have posted it?

I'm not trying to bait you, btw.


As for the laughing, that seemed to me to come after the gasps and 'WTF?'s and was a nervous type of laughter typical of young people in general.. Christian or not.

 

[TheWestPole]

Thats not what I meant.. However, the first one says Eagle Tries to Escape from Evangelical Christians... As if 1) they only want to escape from Christians and 2) It was a Church currently Evangelizing and thus, I was asking if it didnt say that, would you have posted it? If it had said 'Eagle tries to escape from "Leftie UCLA Wacko's", would you have posted it?

Hmmm. Somebody took a jab at evangelical Christians on an atheist thread. WTF?

Maybe this will help you let it go:

Q: Why did the atheist throw her watch out the window?
A: She wanted to see if it was designed intelligently enough to evolve into a bird.

Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: They’re always talking about God.

Q: Did you hear about the the evangelical atheist?
A: She went door to door with a book full of blank pages.

Q: How does an Atheist girl have her hair done?
A: In big bangs!

Q: Why does an atheist wear red suspenders?
A: To keep his pants from being taken up to heaven during the rapture.

Q: What does a dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac do?
A: Stays awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.

Q: Why did the Atheist cross the road?
A: He thought there might be a street on the other side, but he wouldn’t believe it until he tested his hypothesis.

Q: How many atheists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Two. One to actually change the bulb, and the other to videotape the job so fundamentalists won’t claim that god did it.

Q: Why can’t atheists solve exponential equations?
A: Because they don’t believe in higher powers.

Q: How do you make an atheist appreciate life?
A: Break his legs.

Q: How many creationists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None! They've invented torches!


More to come.

 

[MKPM]

Thats not what I meant.. However, the first one says Eagle Tries to Escape from Evangelical Christians... As if 1) they only want to escape from Christians and 2) It was a Church currently Evangelizing and thus, I was asking if it didnt say that, would you have posted it? If it had said 'Eagle tries to escape from "Leftie UCLA Wacko's", would you have posted it?

I'm not trying to bait you, btw.


As for the laughing, that seemed to me to come after the gasps and 'WTF?'s and was a nervous type of laughter typical of young people in general.. Christian or not.

Amazing what can be twisted to suit an agenda. If it had been a video of an eagle flapping about at AtheistCon then it would had been portrayed as a stroke of genius. Clearly this was an atheist eagle who was profoundly offended by the venue. Notice that it was not a video about the inhumane abuses waged upon all other animals.....we must only be concerned with the effect of Christianity upon raptors.

 

[TheWestPole]

Amazing what can be twisted to suit an agenda. If it had been a video of an eagle flapping about at AtheistCon then it would had been portrayed as a stroke of genius. Clearly this was an atheist eagle who was profoundly offended by the venue. Notice that it was not a video about the inhumane abuses waged upon all other animals.....we must only be concerned with the effect of Christianity upon raptors.

Is there any other kind?

 

[MKPM]

Hmmm. Somebody took a jab at evangelical Christians on an atheist thread. WTF?

Maybe this will help you let it go:

Q: Why did the atheist throw her watch out the window?
A: She wanted to see if it was designed intelligently enough to evolve into a bird.

Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: They’re always talking about God.

Q: Did you hear about the the evangelical atheist?
A: She went door to door with a book full of blank pages.

Q: How does an Atheist girl have her hair done?
A: In big bangs!

Q: Why does an atheist wear red suspenders?
A: To keep his pants from being taken up to heaven during the rapture.

Q: What does a dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac do?
A: Stays awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.

Q: Why did the Atheist cross the road?
A: He thought there might be a street on the other side, but he wouldn’t believe it until he tested his hypothesis.

Q: How many atheists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Two. One to actually change the bulb, and the other to videotape the job so fundamentalists won’t claim that god did it.

Q: Why can’t atheists solve exponential equations?
A: Because they don’t believe in higher powers.

Q: How do you make an atheist appreciate life?
A: Break his legs.

Q: How many creationists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None! They've invented torches!


More to come.

HAHAAHAHAHA.....it find it amusing how much investing in debunking Christianity there is by atheists.....yet Christians rarely give them a passing thought. Question: What has atheism done to further mankind....heal the sick, clothe the naked, house the homeless, fund education, stop conflict?
Also.....atheism is an anti-movment..which is in and of itself rather odd. Why would you form a movement that is dedicated to being anti-Christianity....but not anti-trombone playing grasshoppers? Dont get me wrong, I love atheists as much as Christians...perhaps even more so....my brother-in-law is one...so is a publically known friend of mine whom I will not name. I'm just trying to find the logic in the illogical.

 

[MKPM]

What do American atheists do about money? All US currency has "In God We Trust" upon it....that would be quite offensive to an atheist. Perhaps Bitcoin? Do atheists have to obey US laws? All presiding members of the Judiciary are required to swear to God....this of course would make their judgements and all subsequent laws made by members of Congress illogical and not to be trusted or followed.

 

[TheWestPole]

Orangutan

One day the zoo-keeper noticed that the orangutan was reading two books - the Bible and Darwin's Origin of Species.
Surprised, he asked the ape, "Why are you reading both those books?"
"Well," said the orangutan, "I just wanted to know if I was my brother's keeper or my keeper's brother."

 

[TheWestPole]

Loch Ness Monster

An atheist was rowing at the lake, when suddenly the Loch Ness monster attacked and grabbed him from his boat. He panicked and shouted "God help me!", and suddenly, the monster and everything around him just stopped. A voice from the heavens boomed "You say you dont believe in me, but now you are asking for my help?" The atheist looked up and said: Well, ten seconds ago I didnt believe in the Loch Ness Monster either!

 

[TheWestPole]

Neighbors

There was a Christian lady who lived next door to an atheist. Every day, when the lady prayed, the atheist guy could hear her. He thought to himself, "She sure is crazy, praying all the time like that. Doesn't she know there isn't a God?"

Many times while she was praying, he would go to her house and harass her, saying "Lady, why do you pray all the time? Don't you know there is no God?" But she kept on praying.

One day, she ran out of groceries. As usual, she was praying to the Lord explaining her situation and thanking Him for what He was gonna do. As usual, the atheist heard her praying and thought to himself, "Humph! I'll fix her."

He went to the grocery store, bought a whole bunch of groceries, took them to her house, dropped them off on the front porch, rang the door bell and then hid in the bushes to see what she would do. When she opened the door and saw the groceries, she began to praise the Lord with all her heart, jumping, singing and shouting everywhere! The atheist then jumped out of the bushes and told her, "You ol' crazy lady, God didn't buy you those groceries, I bought those groceries!" At hearing this, she broke out and started running down the street, shouting and praising the Lord.

When he finally caught her, he asked what her problem was. She said, "I knew the Lord would provide me with some groceries, but I didn't know he was gonna make the devil pay for them!"

 

[TheWestPole]

Fly in My Soup

Atheist: What’s this fly doing in my soup?
Waiter: Praying.
Atheist: Very funny. I can’t eat this. Take it back.
Waiter: You see? The fly’s prayers were answered.

 

[TheWestPole]

Genie in the Lamp

An atheist buys an Ancient Roman Catholic lamp at an auction, takes it home, and begins to polish it.
Suddenly, a genie appears, and says, "I’ll grant you three wishes, Master."
The atheist says, "I wish I could believe in you."
The genie snaps his fingers, and suddenly the atheist believes in him.
The atheist says, "Wow. I wish all atheists would believe this."
The genie snaps his fingers again, and suddenly atheists all over the world begin to believe in genies.
"What about your third wish?" asks the genie.
"Well," says the atheist, "I wish for a billion dollars."
The genie snaps his fingers for a third time, but nothing happens.
"What’s wrong?" asks the atheist.
The genie shrugs and says, "Just because you believe in me, doesn’t necessarily mean that I really exist."

 

[TheWestPole]

Kittens

A man sees a boy with a box of kittens.
The man goes over and says "Oh what cute kittens!"
The boy replies "Yes they are Christian kittens."
About a week later the man sees the boy again with the same batch of kittens.
Once again he walks over and says "my, those are just adorable!"
The boy replies "Yes, they are atheist kittens"
The man asks "wait, weren't they christian before?"
The boy looks at the man and says "Yeah but they have their eyes open now"

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Genie in the Lamp

The genie shrugs and says, "Just because you believe in me, doesn’t necessarily mean that I really exist."

Kittens

The man asks "wait, weren't they christian before?"
The boy looks at the man and says "Yeah but they have their eyes open now"

Score 2 for the atheists?

Or, whatever, you can make any point you want in a made up story.

 

[MKPM]

The stories were posted only for laughs....in a lighthearted way. They are answered with seriousness and a need for refutation....this tells a story of it's own. Christians look upon atheists with a wink and a nod. atheists tend to look upon Christians as a country to vanquish. And I doubt I will live long enough to understand that point in that. Pointing at a coffee cup and demanding that I admit it is a coffee cup makes one look foolish.

 

[TheWestPole]

Score 2 for the atheists? Or, whatever, you can make any point you want in a made up story.

No score. They are all equivalent in their absurdity.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

What do American atheists do about money? All US currency has "In God We Trust" upon it....that would be quite offensive to an atheist.

It should be offensive to anyone who believes in the separation of church and state.

Perhaps Bitcoin? Do atheists have to obey US laws?

Don't most people in the US? Are you confusing atheists with criminals?

All presiding members of the Judiciary are required to swear to God....this of course would make their judgements and all subsequent laws made by members of Congress illogical and not to be trusted or followed.

1. There are bad laws that still get followed.
2. Every member of Congress is a politician with varying degrees of trust issues with or without a professed allegiance to god. Arguably, the "so help me god" part is more politics.
3. Not every law is completely illogical despite the people who draft and vote on it. Apparently, people are able to compartmentalize their illogical sides; it doesn't poison everything they do or say.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

The stories were posted only for laughs....in a lighthearted way. They are answered with seriousness and a need for refutation....this tells a story of it's own. Christians look upon atheists with a wink and a nod. atheists tend to look upon Christians as a country to vanquish. And I doubt I will live long enough to understand that point in that. Pointing at a coffee cup and demanding that I admit it is a coffee cup makes one look foolish.

Christians are a country to vanquish?

1. Christians are a country?
2. Vanquish? With what? Arguments?

 

[MKPM]

SAR.............CA..................SM
Why so serious bobsyeruncle?

 

[bobsyeruncle]

Is there any other kind?

Indeed. Eagles prey, not pray.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

SAR.............CA..................SM
Why so serious bobsyeruncle?

I replied in kind with sarcasm. Who's being serious?

 

[No Ash More Cash]

WHO forbid?

Was waiting for this ...It's just a saying

Thats not what I meant.. However, the first one says Eagle Tries to Escape from Evangelical Christians... As if 1) they only want to escape from Christians and 2) It was a Church currently Evangelizing and thus, I was asking if it didnt say that, would you have posted it? If it had said 'Eagle tries to escape from "Leftie UCLA Wacko's", would you have posted it?

I'm not trying to bait you, btw.


As for the laughing, that seemed to me to come after the gasps and 'WTF?'s and was a nervous type of laughter typical of young people in general.. Christian or not.

I don't think ""Leftie UCLA Wacko's" would have done something like that and I can't find anything even close... The other thing is... I would have posted it if was any other Religion...My question to you is...If that Video was another Religion (Muslim, jew..Ect would you have been all over it like you have with this one?

 

[No Ash More Cash]

What do American atheists do about money? All US currency has "In God We Trust" upon it....that would be quite offensive to an atheist. Perhaps Bitcoin? Do atheists have to obey US laws? All presiding members of the Judiciary are required to swear to God....this of course would make their judgements and all subsequent laws made by members of Congress illogical and not to be trusted or followed.

"In God we trust" was added to money in 1957 ...The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves...As they were strongly for the dedication to maintaining the separation of church and state...As you know the UK pound has nothing to do with God but have Scientists on them...List of Scientists on UK Money http://wordpress.mrreid.org/2007/08/30/scientists-on-money/

 

[fq06]

Pointing at a coffee cup and demanding that I admit it is a coffee cup makes one look foolish.

Just to point out the other side to that, it is just as foolish to point to an empty spot on the table and demand that there was a coffee cup there at one time.

 

[No Ash More Cash]

HAHAAHAHAHA.....it find it amusing how much investing in debunking Christianity there is by atheists.....yet Christians rarely give them a passing thought. Question: What has atheism done to further mankind....heal the sick, clothe the naked, house the homeless, fund education, stop conflict?
Also.....atheism is an anti-movment..which is in and of itself rather odd. Why would you form a movement that is dedicated to being anti-Christianity....but not anti-trombone playing grasshoppers? Dont get me wrong, I love atheists as much as Christians...perhaps even more so....my brother-in-law is one...so is a publically known friend of mine whom I will not name. I'm just trying to find the logic in the illogical.

There still be good in the world without it... Religion has held us back in so many ways

 

[TheWestPole]

"In God we trust" was added to money in 1957 ...The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves...As they were strongly for the dedication to maintaining the separation of church and state...As you know the UK pound has nothing to do with God but have Scientists on them...List of Scientists on UK Money http://wordpress.mrreid.org/2007/08/30/scientists-on-money/

I'm pretty sure that "In God We Trust" was added to the currency during the Civil War by the Lincoln administration; "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance during the Eisenhower administration, which may be what you meant. Swearing on the Bible is not in the constitution anywhere, and a few presidents have chosen not to, John Quincy Adams being the first. But, yes, the founders would obviously abhor any Christian litmus test as an oath of office.

 

[No Ash More Cash]

Quick check:

Agnostics/Atheists are becoming a bit too populous for me. Come Pesach, gonna spend some quality time with the 0.2% tribe.

This explains a lot and I'm so glad to be the 2%....Man I'm going to get shit for this...lol http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ies-stretching-back-over-decades-8758046.html
http://www.medicaldaily.com/proved-atheists-more-intelligent-religious-people-250727
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/14/religious-people-less-intelligent-atheists_n_3750096.html
http://rt.com/news/atheists-more-intelligent-religious-433/

 

[No Ash More Cash]

I'm pretty certain that "In God We Trust" was added to the currency during the Civil War by the Lincoln administration; "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance during the Eisenhower administration, which may be what you meant. Swearing on the Bible is not in the constitution anywhere, and a few presidents have chosen not to, John Quincy Adams being the first. But, yes, the founders would obviously abhor any Christian litmus test as an oath of office.

Sorry I meant Paper money...Yes you are correct with the Civil War but that was coins