Help me replace my broken Cloupor Mini

[Tornadoalleydeb]

Gratz on your win @Taver13 and sorry about your "clod" @VapedCrusader I love my ipv mini and my full sized ipv. The 30 watt on the mini seems to be enough for me "almost" lol There have been a few things/builds where I needed a bit more power but that is when I use the 50 watt one I have.

My mini is great for when I go out though.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Gratz on your win @Taver13 and sorry about your "clod" @VapedCrusader I love my ipv mini and my full sized ipv. The 30 watt on the mini seems to be enough for me "almost" lol There have been a few things/builds where I needed a bit more power but that is when I use the 50 watt one I have.

My mini is great for when I go out though.

Good to know Deb!

 

[Fictitious Character]

Yea i got the v2 70.. I thought the same thing lol but the 50w is all sold out so I think they just didn't update the page..

the only project sub-ohm mods they have in stock are the 70w suitcases .. It shipped last night too so I couldn't be more impressed with vapordna's turn around time - their email said up to 72 hours processing time too .. guess they had a slow day

Makes sense that it was a place holder price, I did not click on the ipv2 I just noticed the price difference and that the normally more expensive mod was lower. 89.99 minus 10 off is a good price and VaporDna is suppose to be a good shop to buy from.

I think you should be pleased with the ipv2s. It is a bit larger than the previous Cloupor but that aside it should work well. I only have one p4y product and that is the ipv3, but I have had it in hand since Oct last year and have never had a single performance issue from it, and I hope you get the same performance from the ipv2s.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Makes sense that it was a place holder price, I did not click on the ipv2 I just noticed the price difference and that the normally more expensive mod was lower. 89.99 minus 10 off is a good price and VaporDna is suppose to be a good shop to buy from.

I think you should be pleased with the ipv2s. It is a bit larger than the previous Cloupor but that aside it should work well. I only have one p4y product and that is the ipv3, but I have had it in hand since Oct last year and have never had a single performance issue from it, and I hope you get the same performance from the ipv2s.

I really hope so - and at least I know vaporDNA will stand by it if anything happens when I first start using it.. I've wanted a project-sub ohm device for awhile.. I wanted to get the ThinDaddy IPV3 but they sold out really quick so I missed the opportunity.. I hope the touch sensor still works on this version - i know people complain about it but I kinda like the idea of it..

Now I just need to order a Subtank Mini to go with it (of course they were all sold out of them).. regular subtank is just too bulky

 

[M5amhan]

Just because something costs more @M5amhan , doesn't guarantee it will last a long time, my sx mini only lasted a few weeks, juice got inside it and fucked up the board, now it just sits on side useless.

I replaced the sx mini with the IPV mini, only had it just over a week, and so far has been a very good working mod, time will tell if it lasts or not.

i know that, the isticks being a prime example. built to last but most are not. the ones that are typically are over $100 with a few exceptions. there is a limit though where price is too high to justify imo like provari p3, the flasks, and obviously the hanas. but others (the ones i suggest) are priced according on build quality, expected life, accuracy, etc like the sx mini and rdna40. basically its just my opinion that its more cost effective to buy a high quality device and use it for years so thats what i do attys are where the fun comes in for me

with your sx mini you should contact yihi about that, there is a 1 year warranty and if it broke within a few weeks of normal use i would def have a beef to settle with someone, even if it was caused by juice. thats bs, but its also the only instance ive heard of so far

 

[Prsurf2k]

The first box mod I looked into getting was the VaporDNA "Suitcase" but it sold out so fast, I hadn't made my mind up yet if it was the one to get. so then I waited and saw the Sigelei 100w and then saw the issues and waited some more, then they put out the 100w -plus which was an improvement but when they named it the 100W-plus they meant it had two s- shaped etched swirls in it.... that was a NO GO for me, so waited some more got an istick 20 for work/commute and then saw the mini(cloupor) on sale for $28 got it works fine still. I take very good precautions with it so I don't kill it or it me. while waiting for the mini Sigelei puts out the 150W with all the specs I was looking for. So that's my home box mod and the mini for the road/work and the istick sits i a drawer as the back up ( lately its been going to work with me in my bag, incase you know what dies.) So thanks for reading my long winded story on how i ended up with my mini and my Sig 150w.

 

[Fictitious Character]

I really hope so - and at least I know vaporDNA will stand by it if anything happens when I first start using it.. I've wanted a project-sub ohm device for awhile.. I wanted to get the ThinDaddy IPV3 but they sold out really quick so I missed the opportunity.. I hope the touch sensor still works on this version - i know people complain about it but I kinda like the idea of it..

Now I just need to order a Subtank Mini to go with it (of course they were all sold out of them).. regular subtank is just too bulky

Let me know about that touch sensor as it is no secret that the missing feature was my biggest peeve on the ipv3.

Yeah I have a 25mm sub and it is bulky. I want a mini as well.

 

[Not Sure]

well for 37 bucks at 101vape, the sigelei mini 30 is great!! spring loaded/ magnets/ smaler than the cloupor dna30/ very well built mod i love it.

 

[Mazam]

I really hope so - and at least I know vaporDNA will stand by it if anything happens when I first start using it

Actually, i'm fairly sure VaporDNA essentially waives any and all warranty responsibility in their fine print. They also likely won't be offering you a full refund on a device that was opened and used for a period of time, which seems to be what you were demanding out of Clouper. Not sure there's many sites or companies out there offering that either.

Now don't get me wrong here, because i find the fact Clouper gave you the money and told you to go buy a replacement at Gearbest a puzzling as all hell company practice. But with all due respect and at the end of the day, does that really leave you off any worse then you'd be elsewhere? I mean the site does take Paypal, and for all the bad reviews i've read on people not receiving their stuff the multiple people i directly know that made orders there all got their shit.

My friend having to deal with a Sigelei issue atm is telling me she's getting hit with a service charge right out the gate, before having to send the box in and then wait for a replacement to go out. Another spent months from time of purchase waiting on an actual working unit out of Vaporshark. If clouper immediately offered an option to get a replacement plan in motion...could be a lot worse is all i'm saying.

Anyway, GL with the suitcase. I actually was on the verge of buying one before i read your recommendation on the clouper btw, and pulled the trigger on an impulse buy lol. Ended up trading it off when the Sigelei 30w hit stateside though. Solid device, and big fan of the rubber sleeves after having my 100w+ a few months now.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Actually, i'm fairly sure VaporDNA essentially waives any and all warranty responsibility in their fine print. They also likely won't be offering you a full refund on a device that was opened and used for a period of time, which seems to be what you were demanding out of Clouper. Not sure there's many sites or companies out there offering that either.

Now don't get me wrong here, because i find the fact Clouper gave you the money and told you to go buy a replacement at Gearbest a puzzling as all hell company practice. But with all due respect and at the end of the day, does that really leave you off any worse then you'd be elsewhere? I mean the site does take Paypal, and for all the bad reviews i've read on people not receiving their stuff the multiple people i directly know that made orders there all got their shit.

My friend having to deal with a Sigelei issue atm is telling me she's getting hit with a service charge right out the gate, before having to send the box in and then wait for a replacement to go out. Another spent months from time of purchase waiting on an actual working unit out of Vaporshark. If clouper immediately offered an option to get a replacement plan in motion...could be a lot worse is all i'm saying.

Anyway, GL with the suitcase. I actually was on the verge of buying one before i read your recommendation on the clouper btw, and pulled the trigger on an impulse buy lol. Ended up trading it off when the Sigelei 30w hit stateside though. Solid device, and big fan of the rubber sleeves after having my 100w+ a few months now.

That's not a risk I'm willing to take with Gearbest.. and I shouldn't be forced to buy something from them - it seems like GB is the only site offering it for 28$ which is why they are only willing to refund me that exact amount so I can't get it from anywhere else without paying more out of pocket.. I'm sorry but that's not right.

Again - its not about the 10$ - it's about the principal of the thing.. If i had used it for months and it broke it's whatever, but not even 2 weeks and the whole insides are coming unglued? Not going to support a company who can't stand by their products or customers..

 

[Mazam]

I bought one of the very first rounds of Sigelei 30w that hit stateside for $50. I did so knowing full well that week or two from then i'd both see and be able to buy one for $40 (101vape had them for $39 shipped). Nature of the current market and all. If this box breaks tomorrow, very best case scenario i'm looking at Sigelei providing me a replacement. Point being I'm not aware of any box maker offering a full cash "2 weeks latter i'm of the opinion this thing sucks and now want my money back to buy something else" refund. If there was, it would go a long way towards solving my and tons of other vaper's current dilemma of having a limited budget yet wanting the something new/different/better that seemingly comes along every week.

Again, don't get me wrong. I get it. You are now of the opinion that Clouper 30w mini sucks ass, and have every right to bash it into the ground if that's your opinion. Just pointing out that behind your current outrage you are still one guy ultimately demanding something out of Clouper that i don't see anybody else offering either. You walked away with a cash refund as opposed to the "take the replacement or nothing" treatment you'd expect to get anywhere else. Making the base claim that Clouper somehow did you dirty here in the post sale aftermath a rather unfair one. With all due respect...given your current desire to have something else you made out better then most that have similar issues man.

I mean did Clouper offer to send you a replacement, or did you only insist on a cash refund? Because a replacement is what i see their warranty claim covering. Leaving me to speculate that customer service rep was operating under the authority to refund you back the vendor price of the unit (again, are there other companies out there willing to do this? if so i'd genuinely like to know), and that Gearbest angle simply came out of a personalized attempt to try and rationalize the situation the best she could for you.

 

[mikevape22]

Put a fat daddy 510 i have one on my istick

 

[Oggy]

I have a cloupor DNA 30 the was bought early when they came out. It is still my work mod and goes pretty much every where with me. I did replace the 510 with a Varitube 510 just because the gap was driving me nuts.

 

[nbp]

Hey,
It just happened to my Cloupor mini yesterday and I fixed it today
You need to renew the solder, better with a powerful soldering iron.
Than you need to use a good glue(I used Epoxy) to spread between the 510 connector to the Cloupor body, not much but enough that it won't move.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Hey,
It just happened to my Cloupor mini yesterday and I fixed it today
You need to renew the solder, better with a powerful soldering iron.
Than you need to use a good glue(I used Epoxy) to spread between the 510 connector to the Cloupor body, not much but enough that it won't move.

Yea.. sadly I'm not too handy when it comes to all that.. but I do plan on getting a soldering iron and a glue gun and try and repair it..

 

[VapedCrusader]

Let me know about that touch sensor as it is no secret that the missing feature was my biggest peeve on the ipv3.

Yeah I have a 25mm sub and it is bulky. I want a mini as well.

Touch sensor works like a charm! I should have bought one of these a long time ago.. feels very nicely machined and solid as hell (but at the same time doesn't feel heavy at all) which I really like.. Had it kicking at 50 watts and it was putting out a dreamy vape on my dripper.. Rocking the KF at work so its not cloud city up in here

 

[Mazam]

Jump up in size coming from a clouper isn't bothering you?

I've been back and forth on buying one of those a million times now, as the 30w devices sadly fall a few watts short of being a dripper option for me when i'm sitting around the house (i can be happy at 35'ish watts), and i don't like the form factor of the IPV mini. Just always have it in my head i'll find the suitcase too big as a carry around.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Jump up in size coming from a clouper isn't bothering you?

I've been back and forth on buying one of those a million times now, as the 30w devices sadly fall a few watts short of being a dripper option for me when i'm sitting around the house (i can be happy at 35'ish watts), and i don't like the form factor of the IPV mini. Just always have it in my head i'll find the suitcase too big as a carry around.

It's obviously a bit bigger than I want to carry around but I'm not out and about too much.. either in my car driving to work for an hour commute or at my desk/home.. and since I have a winter coat to carry it around it i haven't noticed.. but yea I agree its tad bigger than I really want for my every day mod - luckily like I said its not very heavy.. My panzer is like triple the weight lol

the 50w vape was nothing I can see myself sticking to all the time.. I usually never pull past 30 watts myself.. I will wait for the sigelei mini's to get all the issues worked out and grab one of those in the coming months as a back up.. I'm thinking about getting a couple of the new kanger box mods too because they are so cheap..

 

[Mazam]

Yeah, i almost bought the $27 Kbox off Vaporbeast when i saw it just for the extra 10w flexibility. Decided to wait until a few reviews rolled in though.

If it vapes accurately and to it's exact specs (unlike say the Istick), the limited wattage settings won't be an issue for me personally.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Yeah, i almost bought the $27 Kbox off Vaporbeast when i saw it just for the extra 10w flexibility. Decided to wait until a few reviews rolled in though.

If it vapes accurately and to it's exact specs (unlike say the Istick), the limited wattage settings won't be an issue for me personally.

that was my hesitation as well.. I told myself I was all done with pre-orders or buying anything right out of the gate - and I should have stuck to my guns - i won't make the same cloupor mistake again thats for sure.. luckily I only lost 14$ in the end so i'm not losing any sleep.. just hate getting burned for any amount of $..

I have high hopes for the kbox too and I hope it will be the next 'istick' for 2015 because I love the looks of them and being able to replace the battery was an unexpected addition to it

 

[VapedCrusader]

I bought one of the very first rounds of Sigelei 30w that hit stateside for $50. I did so knowing full well that week or two from then i'd both see and be able to buy one for $40 (101vape had them for $39 shipped). Nature of the current market and all. If this box breaks tomorrow, very best case scenario i'm looking at Sigelei providing me a replacement. Point being I'm not aware of any box maker offering a full cash "2 weeks latter i'm of the opinion this thing sucks and now want my money back to buy something else" refund. If there was, it would go a long way towards solving my and tons of other vaper's current dilemma of having a limited budget yet wanting the something new/different/better that seemingly comes along every week.

Again, don't get me wrong. I get it. You are now of the opinion that Clouper 30w mini sucks ass, and have every right to bash it into the ground if that's your opinion. Just pointing out that behind your current outrage you are still one guy ultimately demanding something out of Clouper that i don't see anybody else offering either. You walked away with a cash refund as opposed to the "take the replacement or nothing" treatment you'd expect to get anywhere else. Making the base claim that Clouper somehow did you dirty here in the post sale aftermath a rather unfair one. With all due respect...given your current desire to have something else you made out better then most that have similar issues man.

I mean did Clouper offer to send you a replacement, or did you only insist on a cash refund? Because a replacement is what i see their warranty claim covering. Leaving me to speculate that customer service rep was operating under the authority to refund you back the vendor price of the unit (again, are there other companies out there willing to do this? if so i'd genuinely like to know), and that Gearbest angle simply came out of a personalized attempt to try and rationalize the situation the best she could for you.

First off - they never offered to give me a replacement - and now i find out they are refunding other people MORE money than they are willing to refund me... So do they just spin a wheel to determine how much each person will get?

Have you ever heard of a manufacturer's warranty? Most companies have them.. If something totally breaks 10 days after buying something most reputable companies will replace or fully refund - the only option i got was refunding less than the full amount I paid and pretty much forced to buy a replacement from a shady company - if you think theres nothing wrong with how cloupor is handling their shitty mods then go buy one - i'm sharing my experience with others so they dont make the same mistake..

What did kanger do when they found out the insulators on the subtank was causing issues? They shipped new ones to anyond who wanted them for FREE. Do you think cloupor would do that? Nope.. And we should not be supporting companies that do not support us. Period.


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[VapedCrusader]

LMAO And when did i ever ask for a replacement because my opinion was 'this thing sucks' the thing fell apart from barely using it 10 days later.. Are you for real? I'm assuming you half read the entire thread since you have been incorrect with several of your statements..


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[Mazam]

First off - they never offered to give me a replacement - and now i find out they are refunding other people MORE money than they are willing to refund me... So do they just spin a wheel to determine how much each person will get?

Have you ever heard of a manufacturer's warranty? Most companies have them.. If something totally breaks 10 days after buying something most reputable companies will replace or fully refund - the only option i got was refunding less than the full amount I paid and pretty much forced to buy a replacement from a shady company - if you think theres nothing wrong with how cloupor is handling their shitty mods then go buy one - i'm sharing my experience with others so they dont make the same mistake..

What did kanger do when they found out the insulators on the subtank was causing issues? They shipped new ones to anyond who wanted them for FREE. Do you think cloupor would do that? Nope.. And we should not be supporting companies that do not support us. Period.


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Yeah, as i already stated i'm familiar with a manufacturer's warranty. In fact i even did a short stint as a CS rep for a cell servive some years back, where pretty much every other person calling in on one always had a screen that somehow managed to break itself. Anyway a week latter my previous point still stands. Good for Kanger for sending out free insulators...but that's still a far cry from refunding the money on the unit in full. Like i said, if that 510 rips out of your IPV tomorrow and after giving VaporDNA a call you'd come back here claiming the same things about them as you are Clouper now.

Here's the overlying reality of the situation man. Most these companies or retail vendors have "good customer service" when the qualifying factor to that largely revolves around shipping your item out the next day with a thank you for your purchase notice. Especially given 99% of the time, and this includes Clouper's mini and the countless people who are enjoying the working ones they got....shit goes smooth. It's when you venture into the vendor actually taking a notable loss of money/product territory that the good CS genuinely gets separated from the rest (or bad).

Clouper took a lot of online heat over the mini (a lot of which tended to consist of people who didn't even own the device, and were simply piling on the bashfest), and my own personal thoughts on every mod maker being one big lottery ticket these days aside......deservingly so. At the end of the day and in the aftermath though, everybody that i saw have an issue with their mod seems to have walked away pretty content either a replacement or full cash refund. Heck, in some case people actually seemed to have made out with their money AND an extra working mod if they were handy enough to fix the broken clouper mini themselves, since in a lot of cases Clouper didn't even ask them to send the mod back to get a refund. Regardless how one feels about Clouper products in general, that shouldn't just be brushed aside as some irrelevant factor. In another thread you talked about standing up for your product......It does not realistically get anymore standing up for your product in the current box mod market then what they did.

Everybody i've seen...but you. So given you were the one telling a different overall CS story that wasn't gelling with what everyone else was stating, i genuinely was curious on the details. If you claim you did indeed ask for a replacement to be sent instead of a full cash refund, which again reading back doesn't seem to be the implication in your initial post...then i guess you initially asked for a replacement. Ok then, default guess #2 it is.

Maybe you just happened to get that one between jobs CS rep who could care less about the corporate kiss ass stuff if/when they got somebody throwing a major attitude at their attempts to help, and that "I'm a bigger asshole in real life - be happy you met me on a forum" personality choice quoted in your profile sig simply came back to bite you in the ass this time?

 

[cobalt327]

I don't get all the gear best bashing. Have you dealt w/them and had a bad experience? Because I have bought (so far) two attys and a Cloupor mini and everything- including the mini- came in good condition and are working fine. I cannot comment about their CS- I haven't needed them. But they have answered my questions and took no longer than FT (24-36 hr. give or take) and quicker than FC does most of the time. As far as the feedback, I don't believe any of it- not the bad OR the good, it all sounds like BS to me.

Anyway, shame you're not handy w/a soldering iron. But unless you've twisted the 510 so much that a wire has broken off, all you really need to do is use JB Weld. Clean the surfaces to be glued w/alcohol and a q-tip, roughing the surfaces after cleaning will help adhesion (reclean afterwards). But I'm sure you knew thay already. OR trade the dead mini to me, I'll give you a pair of clone RDAs- one Magma, one Plume Veil. Both barely used in perfect condition.