Updates on the IPV4????

[mgmrick]

I don't want to turn this into a battery debate but I have been using efest batteries for years without any issues. Maybe it helps that I am not pushing them to their limits.

So it seems as it's impossible to apply ohm's laws to these ipv4's as we don't know what the ohm's is under fire. I guess the voltage shown also does not mean anything but used for a starting point.

I can't comment on longevity as I have only owed mine a week. These mod's have only been in users hands a month at most but not reading anything negative. It has quickly moved to the front of my prefered mod list. Now if I could find the newest black kanger subtank....always seems what I like is coming soon

 

[IML8]

Not to cover the prong, you need to plug that hole where the prong is. You don't want any juice getting inside that part of the mod period.

Yep. Simply plugging the hole in the battery cover will likely be insufficient. At some point, however, you may want to reverse whatever action you take to actualize the solution for sealing off the inner port. That was the point of thinking about a removeable option as opposed to simlpy filling in and/or spackling over the hole with some sort of durable compound (e.g., silicone et al). BTW, if someone does choose to fill the hole with some sort of durable insulating compound, you should be sure to remove the batteries and allow the compound to thoroughly cure before returning the batteries to the device.

 

[mgmrick]

In an effort to see how much the coil ohms changes after 3 vapes I pressed the up and down buttons. Did this while the coil was hot. Not alot of change ohms started at .12 and went to .17

 

[f1r3b1rd]

i got a pair of the new efest 38a 2100 mah 18650's. Seem to be fine. I like the tight wrapper. They hit as hard as my sony vtc4's but seem to last a bit less time. (I have noticed that if my battery bar reads 1/4 strength i get "change battery" display. Seems like if the low end for battery use is 3.5 that they should have made the battery bar reveal the usable space to make for a more accurate reflection in display. IMO. But hey... so easy to swap batteries who can complain?)

How does one battery hit harder than another in a regulated mod?

 

[Maverik_X]

Hopefully those aren't the Efest 3100mah, The cells are rated at sub 10a despite Efest selling them as 20a batteries.

I wish I got that kind of battery life though, I'm swapping out 25Rs at least once daily.

You should look into these new Samsung 30Q batt's they are 15 amp continous so more then likely safe for a pulse of 22.5 amp's

http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=498
there's a few sellers on eBay selling them for around $15 a set, I have been using mine in my iPV4 in Temp control for about 2 weeks with zero issues.

Keep a look out for the LG INR18650HG2 they are 20 amp continous. I have a set on order.
http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=505

 

[dre]

You have

Ive been multiplying joules by 1.2 and using that as watts.
Then using P/V=I

If you just tap the fire button and calculate the voltage and ohms it equals out to 1j=1w.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

You should look into these new Samsung 30Q batt's they are 15 amp continous so more then likely safe for a pulse of 22.5 amp's

http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=498
there's a few sellers on eBay selling them for around $15 a set, I have been using mine in my iPV4 in Temp control for about 2 weeks with zero issues.

You may be having zero issues, but easily could be pushing the limits of those cells, be careful with that.

 

[Maverik_X]

You may be having zero issues, but easily could be pushing the limits of those cells, be careful with that.

Thanks m8 ,but so far it's been good I don't run at max joules or watts or anything. I typically run 30 - 40 joules or around 60 or so watts.
This has just been my experience. There is some battery manufaucters that rewrap the samsung 25r and claim they are 30 amp or 35 amp. I talked with my battery guy and he told me that the 30Q's should be safe at where I vape.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

If you just tap the fire button and calculate the voltage and ohms it equals out to 1j=1w.

Yes and if you tap the fire button rt is constant, both change constantly in TL mode, so if the person who posed the question want the amp draw at any given point while firing then the numbers will be different, all the other variables are changing in the display in real time, and 1j is not 1w. if he does a 5second pull then a 10 second pull a joule will have a different numerical value, while a watt is always a watt,
If that makes sense.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Thanks m8 ,but so far it's been good I don't run at max joules or watts or anything. I typically run 30 - 40 joules or around 60 or so watts.
This has just been my experience. There is some battery manufaucters that rewrap the samsung 25r and claim they are 30 amp or 35 amp. I talked with my battery guy and he told me that the 30Q's should be safe at where I vape.

It had to be said, especially on a public forum, that battery would not be safe where I vape; and, I know better. But the guy lurking may not. just looking out, bro

 

[Maverik_X]

It had to be said, especially on a public forum, that battery would not he safe where I vape;and, I know better. But the guy lurking may not. just looking out, bro

Good looking out, what are your thoughts on the New LG HG2 cells? would they be safe for 100 watts?
http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=505

 

[Maverik_X]

Just found these 3.5 mm and micro usb plugs on google looks like a easy way to solve the juice in the charging port issue.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Good looking out, what are your thoughts on the New LG HG2 cells? would they be safe for 100 watts?
http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=505

I'm heading out but I took a look and heres my feelings on batteries
Its generally accepted what the best batteries to buy are.
The mod in question is 65-85$ (ish)

Is saving 4-5$ on batteries that huge? Why not buy what is known to work best and not risk the mod?
I stick with vtc4s, he2s, he4s and 25rs
The cell can only fit so much power, if you're using most of it in a flash you'll have to change it, like a truck can only hold so much fuel. That mod is designed with quick changes in mind.
Maybe I'm old school but when pushing the limits of what a cell can handle ide rather go with the known and proven

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Just found these 3.5 mm and micro usb plugs on google looks like a easy way to solve the juice in the charging port issue.

Those USB plugs work for sure I use those on everything

 

[Maverik_X]

Thanks for your feedback, Battery cell tech is getting better, but not nearly as fast as the demand. seems with vaping everying requires more amps. I do have about 15 sets of 25r's and they are wonderful batt's tried and true as you stated.
Have good day m8.

 

[Wooglin]

What I love about the ipv4 is pulling out old stuff that never worked well on a non tc mod. Just got out my kanger mini rba for the subtank mini and wow. Built a 6 wrap coil on 2.5 mm. OHms out at 1.1 ohm and vapes link a beast. No cloud chasing but nice work vape that tastes amazing and does not suck the juice.

 

[Fictitious Character]

Just found these 3.5 mm and micro usb plugs on google looks like a easy way to solve the juice in the charging port issue.

I need some of these usb plugs.

Thanks for your feedback, Battery cell tech is getting better, but not nearly as fast as the demand. seems with vaping everying requires more amps. I do have about 15 sets of 25r's and they are wonderful batt's tried and true as you stated.
Have good day m8.

I would stick with the 25r and swap them out quickly as needed.

 

[mntman09]

Got mine from my b&m yesterday. Lovin it. Also ordered a tc tank from vct. Its called the tct pro. It has nickel coils just for tc. Stoked about my ipv 4 and my new tank thats comin. Updates on it soon.

 

[mntman09]

Just got into building. Lookin to build a .2 dual coil. How many wraps and what size mm.

 

[Kent B Marshall]

Just got into building. Lookin to build a .2 dual coil. How many wraps and what size mm.

http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp

Drop-downs allow for many choices

Hope this helps

 

[CTFX]

Just got into building. Lookin to build a .2 dual coil. How many wraps and what size mm.

Definitely use steam engine it's a great service for all types of builder's. Whether you are a beginner or a veteran. Usually I build with 2.5 mm to 3 mm. It seems to be the best for me in my rdas. Much easier to work in your cotton with those settings.

 

[mntman09]

Yes. Found that same thing out bout the cotton. 2 mm was impossible to get the cotton. Just built a coul at 2.5 mm 4 wraps... dual coil... came out at .26... not bad

 

[CTFX]

<-----3mm 20 gauge 6 wrap dual at .112 ohms. Love the vapor production of that setting!

 

[mntman09]

Yeh. I need to get more wire. All i have at the moment is 26g

 

[mntman09]

Would love to get that low

 

[CTFX]

Yeh. I need to get more wire. All i have at the moment is 26g

26g is good too. Just need to find that sweet spot with your mod to wire

 

[mntman09]

I did a 4 wrap... came out .26. Could i do a 3 wrap to get lower

 

[CTFX]

I did a 4 wrap... came out .26. Could i do a 3 wrap to get lower

You could but then you risk the coil snapping. Usually the lower the gauge the higher resistance it has. I work with 20-24 g wires. A .2 ohm build isn't bad at all. Don't go lower than that with that wire. Until you get your lower gauges stick to where you're at to be safe and ready for the next step.

To be honest vape shops usually don't go lower than .2 ohms for building others mods. So be safe first and make sure to use an ohm reader and steam engjne.

 

[mntman09]

Cool. Thanks for the info. I'll stick with the 4 wrap as you suggest until i get more wire. You say the next step.. what is the next step?

 

[CTFX]

Cool. Thanks for the info. I'll stick with the 4 wrap as you suggest until i get more wire. You say the next step.. what is the next step?

Anything from 24-20 gauge. But make sure to be safe about it. I can't stress that enough for you. I've had some really sketchy situations with improper builds. You learn from your mistakes. make sure to read up on your battery capabilities as well. There can be so many problems with building too low without proper knowledge. So buy 24, 22, and 20. Work with the first 2 before you go sub ohm low. See what works for you.

 

[mntman09]

Ok. My mods are a segelie 150 and the new ipv 4. Got the ipv 4 cuz of the tc. Also have a ohm meter. But dont want to go under .2 for a bit

 

[mntman09]

Correct me if im wrong... but going under .2 is basically for cloud production? Im into flavor more... ocassonally like to blow clouds.. who doesnt right

 

[mntman09]

Lol

 

[mntman09]

Again... thanks so much for all your help. I will b safe

 

[CTFX]

Correct me if im wrong... but going under .2 is basically for cloud production? Im into flavor more... ocassonally like to blow clouds.. who doesnt right

Going below .2 is the realm of sub-ohming and for cloud production. But you do get the flavor profile if you have the right juices. I use max vg juices with great flavors. So it's up to you how you wanna adjust for flavor and for clouds. If you just want straight up flavor do what you're doing. If you wanna go low there are those factors mentioned above.

 

[mntman09]

I also use max vg too. I buy from itc vapes. Great juice at diy price. I want to perfect were im building at 1st b4 i go any lower. I always reserch b4 i go any lower. Do lots on building b4 i started.. plus my vape shop was helpful as well

 

[CTFX]

I also use max vg too. I buy from itc vapes. Great juice at diy price. I want to perfect were im building at 1st b4 i go any lower. I always reserch b4 i go any lower. Do lots on building b4 i started.. plus my vape shop was helpful as well

Research is key my friend. Use the right tools for your builds and always be safe. This place is a haven for all vapers. Whether you're old, young, newbie, or veteran. This place has so many awesome and friendly users to help with any of your needs. Trust me I ask things often and it's encouraged here. After all is said and done were all here to promote safety and better health!

 

[mntman09]

my last build. Whats you thoughts... comments

 

[CTFX]

my last build. Whats you thoughts... comments

Nice build! Looks very parallel and tight. Great job! It only gets better with time

 

[mntman09]

my vape station. Sorry but love to show it off. I made the juice and tank holder

 

[CTFX]

Great job seriously. I believe there's a section in here for selling that kind of building stuff. You should look into it.

 

[mntman09]

Thanks. I take my time when i build. I do all the checks... put it on a ohm meter.. tighten screws and such

 

[mntman09]

Yes. I have posted a few on the accessesors section.

 

[Mykline]

Yep. Simply plugging the hole in the battery cover will likely be insufficient. At some point, however, you may want to reverse whatever action you take to actualize the solution for sealing off the inner port. That was the point of thinking about a removeable option as opposed to simlpy filling in and/or spackling over the hole with some sort of durable compound (e.g., silicone et al). BTW, if someone does choose to fill the hole with some sort of durable insulating compound, you should be sure to remove the batteries and allow the compound to thoroughly cure before returning the batteries to the device.

Agree on removable plug or covering of some kind. A dab of a silicone should work good and wouldn't be to difficult to remove.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

Going below .2 is the realm of sub-ohming and for cloud production. But you do get the flavor profile if you have the right juices. I use max vg juices with great flavors. So it's up to you how you wanna adjust for flavor and for clouds. If you just want straight up flavor do what you're doing. If you wanna go low there are those factors mentioned above.

Going below 1 is the realm of sub-ohm.

 

[mntman09]

So whats the benifit. Is it like climbing everest. And how do you do it. What mod handles that build

 

[mntman09]

That sounded snotty. Sorry. Didnt mean it that way.

 

[CTFX]

Going below 1 is the realm of sub-ohm.

Thanks for reiterating. Like I said helpful people here.

 

[mntman09]

So going below .1 is hard to do? It must be new to build below .1?

 

[CTFX]

So going below .1 is hard to do? It must be new to build below .1?

Depends on your device. Most regulated mods won't go below say .12 it all depends. If it's an unregulated mod I'm pretty sure you can sub ohm. It also depends on the chip you have inside your mod also. Some if not most cap you off at a certain limit.