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Hi. Just new on vaping. Just purchased my snow wolf 200w and using it for a month. And just want to buy a mechanical mod. Just heard theres a risk on vaping with mech mod like battery explodes. Just want to ask what is the best mech mod and safest and what battery to be used. Still confused in ohms,voltage calculations. Thanks
 

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Click the sigline hyperlinks below.... all questions will be answered, if you're willing to invest a good bit of time in the reading. Any questions... PM me.

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@State O' Flux has some invaluable stuff there - I'll add my "Complete Idiot's Guide" type post here, but it's in no way a substitute for going through what he's got to offer:

http://www.vapingunderground.com/th...-sick-clouds-bro-thread-sticky-edition.78126/

I must have spent two months reading and researching before making the jump to mechs, and even then I only built above 1.0 ohm for my first dozen builds...jumping in without basic knowledge should be scarier than it is...
 

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thanks to both of you. ill stick first to my regulated mod. cheers!
 

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I use my mechs kicked. Much safer, and same amount/quality of vapor throughout battery charge. I always vape ~1.5Ω. A mech can be made as safe as a regulated, and is not dead if electronics fail, whether kicked or unkicked.
 

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Yeh, I felt the exact same way as you before. I wanted to jump right into mechs. But yes, maybe give yourself some time building. Mechs aren't necessarily for us "noobs" lol. Unless of course you already have a good understanding of everything etc. (without going into serious detail as i'm sure you know what i'm getting at) You will be ready for one when you are ready, cha feel?

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now i jumped into mech mod! :) , i used sony vtc 5 battery on SMPL A mod, running on .2 ohms. i hope this is safe
Good luck to me! cheers! happy new year!
 

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now i jumped into mech mod! :) , i used sony vtc 5 battery on SMPL A mod, running on .2 ohms. i hope this is safe
Good luck to me! cheers! happy new year!
Pushing your battery's limit and diving right into a hybrid? Couldn't get any more dangerous than that! I at least hope you're using an RDA with sufficiently protruding 510 pin and not a pre-built tank that's likely to dead short! Cheers and Happy New Year!
 

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Pushing your battery's limit and diving right into a hybrid? Couldn't get any more dangerous than that! I at least hope you're using an RDA with sufficiently protruding 510 pin and not a pre-built tank that's likely to dead short! Cheers and Happy New Year!
The VTC5's amp rating, kinda confusing. 30a with temp cut off, 20a without. Care to explain which one should use as the batts limit? Or should someone who is looking for a 30amp batt just get the VTC4?
 

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The VTC5's amp rating, kinda confusing. 30a with temp cut off, 20a without. Care to explain which one should use as the batts limit? Or should someone who is looking for a 30amp batt just get the VTC4?
For 30A, go for VTC3, VTC4, or LG HB2 - most folks these days treat the VTC5 as a 20A battery...
 

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Thanks! Now if they only made a 2500+ mah 30 amp one.
Wouldn't we all love that...too bad other high-performance devices are moving toward li-po cells and there's not a whole ton of advancement in the 18650 form going on these days.
 

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Wouldn't we all love that...too bad other high-performance devices are moving toward li-po cells and there's not a whole ton of advancement in the 18650 form going on these days.
Yup. Just like it seems mechs are all but died out. At least in my part of the world. Temp control this, VV/VW that. Oh well, its almost like gaming systems in my time. Started with Atari and Nintendo, now look at what they have. Still like the "old school" stuff most though.
 

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Yup. Just like it seems mechs are all but died out. At least in my part of the world. Temp control this, VV/VW that. Oh well, its almost like gaming systems in my time. Started with Atari and Nintendo, now look at what they have. Still like the "old school" stuff most though.
Three kicked Nemeses, one on the way, one Provari 2.5. Ten single-coil Orchids, two on the way. Old school all the way. Prices for old-school are getting so good!
 

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Wouldn't we all love that...too bad other high-performance devices are moving toward li-po cells and there's not a whole ton of advancement in the 18650 form going on these days.
In that case I guess I need to buy my backups now before there are no more 18650 choices.
 

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In that case I guess I need to buy my backups now before there are no more 18650 choices.
I wouldn't worry about an imminent shortage or anything, as there are still plenty of devices that use 18650, but it's a cell that's probably closer to the end of its life cycle than the beginning...
 

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I have had it with regulated devices. I'm too hard on them I guess. Burned up three of them. All that circuitry and wires. No thanks. Not to mention with mech mods, your builds mean something. This gauge this, parallel that, inner coil diameter, clapton at .31 ohm. It really matters and affects how you vape. With regulated mods, a lot of that goes away. It just vapes what you set, not what you build. I prefer that if I'm going to take the time to build, I want it to matter, hence nothing but mechs for me.
If you're concerned about building low, get a parallel box mech mod. You get double the amp rating. I build as low as .13 ohms without even coming close to stressing my 25R's. I recommend the all copper Abaddon clone. For about 30 bucks, you get a good hitter without any wires or MOSFETs or extra b.s. Just straight battery circuitry. I have one and love it. I do more than half of my vaping on it. I think anyone would be happy with it.
 

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I will say I love my old sig 150 box mod but the only thing I have been using lately are tube mods.

I think they are both a learning experience....different.
 

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I will say I love my old sig 150 box mod but the only thing I have been using lately are tube mods.

I think they are both a learning experience....different.
I have a 160w X cube 2 that barely use now for the same exact reason lol. I look at what I want to use everyday, and the mech mod is usually it.

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I had a sig. Lasted me 4 weeks. Like I said earlier I guess I'm too hard on them I don't know. What I do remember is even though I could max the sig out at 150 watts, it was just different than how my mech mods hit even at lower wattage using the same atty. I can't really describe it other than the mech hit me instantly while the sig seemed to kind of ease up to the 150, usually too late by the time I was done taking my hit. Its almost like the regulated mod ramps up in pulses to your watt setting and the mech hits you instantly. That's the best I can describe it. Maybe I'm just tripping but after smoking Marlboro cigarettes for 42 years, I need that instant hit on my throat and I get that from my mech mods. Can anyone else relate?
 

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I still use my sig. Did this morning, when I am just chilling, but I agree. The hit off my mech and the correctly built rda is tough to beat. I mainly use the regulated for low watts anyway. My mech setup doesn't even hit right on my sig.
 

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Good, then it's not just me. I may still be tripping but at least now I know I'm not alone.
 
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So can anyone check mine? this is my first time also and i already jump to mech mod. :(
 

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So can anyone check mine? this is my first time also and i already jump to mech mod. :(
Not sure what you're asking - would need specs on the mod, atty, and batteries you're considering buying.
 
Not sure what you're asking - would need specs on the mod, atty, and batteries you're considering buying.

I've just bought a vape and it's my first time. and what i didn't know is this thingy mod. i forgot to research before buying and i saw this mechanical mod and mosfet. is this safe to use? cause i don't have any idea about batteries, ohm, or whatever inside on the vape
 

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I've just bought a vape and it's my first time. and what i didn't know is this thingy mod. i forgot to research before buying and i saw this mechanical mod and mosfet. is this safe to use? cause i don't have any idea about batteries, ohm, or whatever inside on the vape
Unfortunately the screen capture you posted tells us nothing about the mod, atty, or batteries you've bought. Without knowing what you have coming, it's hard to comment on whether it's a good setup or not. Got a link to where you bought it?
 

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Thanks, this helps. But I'm worried, for a handful of reasons.

1. It seems there are pics of at least two different mods intermingled here.
2. There's no info on the atomizer at all, nor on the mod, nor on the batteries.
3. Without battery specs, there's no way to know whether this is totally legit or a wood bomb that wants to blow your face off.
4. I can't convert P into $ to tell whether or not you're getting ripped off.
 
Thanks, this helps. But I'm worried, for a handful of reasons.

1. It seems there are pics of at least two different mods intermingled here.
2. There's no info on the atomizer at all, nor on the mod, nor on the batteries.
3. Without battery specs, there's no way to know whether this is totally legit or a wood bomb that wants to blow your face off.
4. I can't convert P into $ to tell whether or not you're getting ripped off.

actually it's still in deliver. but i already pay. maybe there is a specs about that in the box after i receive it. the 2nd pic with coil maybe its different.
 

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A mosfet is basically a power regulator for the switch making it safer. Without a mosfet you would need a more powerful switch but with one you can use basically the switch you want.

I think I have this right

It is a safety feature.
 
A mosfet is basically a power regulator for the switch making it safer. Without a mosfet you would need a more powerful switch but with one you can use basically the switch you want.

I think I have this right

It is a safety feature.

its my first time to vape and maybe this is unregulated mosfet mod. someone just told me
 

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The batteries are what would concern me - if they're not trusted Samsung/LG/Sony cells (I doubt they are), don't use them - get some good batteries before you attempt to fire the mod.
 

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As long as you play by the rules of battery safety there is nothing to worry about. Hop online and find some LG HB6's. They're by FAR the safest for a mech mod. Here's a chart-look up your battery's amp level and use the ohm's law calculator to check your build against your battery. I usually put 4 in for my voltage and then enter the resistance. It will fill in the amp draw for you. As long as that number is lower than the number on the chart for your exact battery, you're totally kosher :D
http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms-law-calculator
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@scarecrowjenkins
How long will a 1500 mah battery last in a mech? With my weak 0.3 ohm 22g single coil I get maybe a half day with a vtc4, 2100 mah. Mine are authentic.
 

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@scarecrowjenkins
How long will a 1500 mah battery last in a mech? With my weak 0.3 ohm 22g single coil I get maybe a half day with a vtc4, 2100 mah. Mine are authentic.

If you get the square root of your batteries voltage and devide by your resistance you will get the wattage, and that is what drains your battery. To make a battery in a mech mod last longer make a higher resistance coil. Assuming you take about a 2 sec hit with that coil and battery you will only get 178 hits which is low.
 

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