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muth

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not to flog a dead horse, but Jaco is considered, by many to be the best player ever! lots of folks inspired and influenced by him. ask any older bass player. Jaco played music on the bass, as opposed to "just playing bass".


this is the very first tune i ever heard Jaco on. a lifelong fan before the song even ended:
Didn't know you were such a fan. You probably know all about his history, starting out as a drummer, breaking his leg, switching to bass, etc etc. The man's musicianship was(is) sick. And as far as I'm concerned you can talk about him or any other musician you like over and over. You'll never be flogging a dead horse (jeeze, I hate that saying) with me 'cause I understand completely your passion. People who equate influence with imitation need to open up their Websters. Imitating and impersonating are close 'relatives'. John Coltrane was deeply influenced by Ravi Shankar but anyone who says that Coltrane imitated, copied, or impersonated him is an asshat (thanks for that word, Mr Fog). To be influenced in the world of art is not to copy. It is to assimilate in your own words or actions that which has inspired you. Ech, I'm sick of hearing myself talk about this. I'm here to have fun, not to have philosophical debates about jazz musicians. Been there, done that.
 

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van Gogh Thanksgiving

Vincent+Van+Gogh+Thanksgiving
Where's the bloody ear
 

muth

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How's your istick? (no comments from the peanut gallery, please) ecig will sell them for $15.99 this weekend.
 

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How's your istick? (no comments from the peanut gallery, please) ecig will sell them for $15.99 this weekend.

what? for real? got a link?
 

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510 Vapers here in the Lou has a Black Friday package: iStick/Nautilus/30ml house juice.......25% off retail.
 

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That's what my father said to me every time I entered the house.
I picked up on the reference immediately :). The question is....did he prepare you a feast every time?
 

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Didn't know you were such a fan. You probably know all about his history, starting out as a drummer, breaking his leg, switching to bass, etc etc. The man's musicianship was(is) sick. And as far as I'm concerned you can talk about him or any other musician you like over and over. You'll never be flogging a dead horse (jeeze, I hate that saying) with me 'cause I understand completely your passion. People who equate influence with imitation need to open up their Websters. Imitating and impersonating are close 'relatives'. John Coltrane was deeply influenced by Ravi Shankar but anyone who says that Coltrane imitated, copied, or impersonated him is an asshat (thanks for that word, Mr Fog). To be influenced in the world of art is not to copy. It is to assimilate in your own words or actions that which has inspired you. Ech, I'm sick of hearing myself talk about this. I'm here to have fun, not to have philosophical debates about jazz musicians. Been there, done that.

i've read books about Jaco. but from point of view, music saved my life. in no uncertain terms. i'd either be dead or a serial killer. as a kid, i portable radio, real tin sounding. when stereos got cheap, the one thing my mom would do for me, was buy me a new record player every year. and the big difference, was BASS. so i grew to love bass, big time. and Jaco was the best. but he was also bipolar and into drugs. his perty buddy was Hiram Bullock, who i also like. Hiran died a few years back cuz of drugs.

now, Mr John Coltrane. his mentor was Thelonious Monk. and i adore Monk! outside of Todd Rundgren, he's my favorite musician. he also suffered from mental illness. when Trane got kicked out of Miles' band for drug use, he became close friends with Monk. he'd go get him out of bed and Monk would explain his music theory to him. when Monk got his cabaret card back, which he lost cuz he wouldn't squeal on his best friend, Bud Powell, Trane was in the quartet. much of the time at the 5 Spot, was Trane blowing and Monk dancing. and Monk don't dance if the sax player ain't hitting it.

the next year, when Monk played Carnegie, his sax player, maybe Johnny Griffin, wasn't available. Trane stepped up. that recording, is Trane showing his love for Monk, and Monk having a blast. Monk wrote bebop, but played stride. his idol was James P Johnston. i used to think that Miles' Kind of Blue. was the greatest jazz recording ever. until i hear the Monk Trane at Carnegie Hall.

in fact, this song, Monk's Mood, may be the most spectacular 7 minutes in Jazz history. your hear Trane the leader and Monk just going to town, comping behind him. i always liked the song, but i remember hearing it, the day it came out. i almost cried. i remember Elizabeth, the store owner. i kept shushing her until...Trane came in. i was like, "now listen!"

and you should listen,too. you can hear that Monk is playing stride and Trane show everything he's gonna play in the next few years:

 

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They Pm'd me. Long, weird story. It's just ecig.com

wow quite a sale, i bet they run out of stuff quick. i saw they have nautiluses for 15.99. that's really cheap.
 

muth

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@kelli , the vendors are posting up stuff in our BF thread. Along with members posting, too. I had to get away from there; I was being stalked
 

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Amazing how many photos pile up on my phone! And I don't particularly find myself to be much of a picture taker.
 

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@kelli , the vendors are posting up stuff in our BF thread. Along with members posting, too. I had to get away from there; I was being stalked

ain't nobody got time for that. no ma'am.
 

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Amazing how many photos pile up on my phone! And I don't particularly find myself to be much of a picture taker.
i've seen many of them here :)
 

muth

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wow quite a sale, i bet they run out of stuff quick. i saw they have nautiluses for 15.99. that's really cheap.
Yeah, when I get over the PTSD I got from their website I'll PM you about it. Actually, it's on that thread but who the hell wants to go through that? If you want to avoid chaos stay away! But, yeah, there are some good deals. But there will be good deals after the holidays, too. People are trying to get ALL their Xmas shopping done! I can't deal with that.
 

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Does anybody else here feel crazy when all this Black Friday stuff comes up?
Vape-wise, I'm mostly set. Will have to remember to get some juice during Free State Vapor's 50% sale.
 

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Tommy, did u get your eleaf lemo?

*sigh*..........nope, "I gave up looking....I really wanted to try that stupid thing and everyone's sold out. All the sales going on are killing me...I am going to get nothing but vape mail for Christmas...I crossed the line into a vapie weirdo this year because everyone in the house is giving me that look like I am crazy this year. :) I can't stop buying shit o_O I may need some type of intervention.
 

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