At this point, I gotta call "BULLSHIT"

[f1r3b1rd]

Less than 2 hours after ^^^that post, a new thread was started called "ECF Giveways - shipping updates and this was posted...

SMOK/Koopor - these are on their way from China to their local hub, in the US Madvapes are responsible, but as they haven't got them yet it will be a little while before they are on their way to you.

Interesting.

Gotta love it, ecf dumping the blame on maddvapes for their own contest. It's like elementary school bullshit

 

[Simply Red]

Gotta love it, ecf dumping the blame on maddvapes for their own contest. It's like elementary school bullshit

C'mon, dude. You know it's always someone else's fault.

 

[BigNasty]

Holy shit! 2 years?? I gotta call BULLSHIT on that! That's just wrong, dude and ridiculous. Yet another vendor not held accountable.

Actually the bearded liar, Jeepercreeper was known to stiff people shortly after that I wrote the juice off.
Vapercrafter it has been nearly a year and would not use said product even if it arrived, they were ran off here pretty fucking fast for other shit they pulled.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Wha? Jeeprcreeper? From the prorape sub?

 

[danjaman]

Some peoples over there think ECF can do no wrong. Smh... I found a thread called "Still don't have my prize" and figured I'd check it out. Appearently, there's been other "problems" with other contests. (Go figure) Came across a post from 12/9 and one of their "loyal fans" is, well, "very supportive". Gag me.

I won one of those cloupor mini plus' from the ECF part of the giveaway, received it within two weeks IIRC.
cloupor were bang on and so was innokin with the disruptors by all accounts.
Smok were just plain fuckin shit. And we all know Koopor are part of Smok, therefore by extension Koopor are fuckin shit.
I expect you'll get your prize, just that they'll be dragging their fuckin heels.

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[BigNasty]

Wha? Jeeprcreeper? From the prorape sub?

Jeepercreeper the bearded lying bullshitter from the old vaperstv c2c before ryno parted ways.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Jeepercreeper the bearded lying bullshitter from the old vaperstv c2c before ryno parted ways.

I reckon I dont know who that is.

 

[Simply Red]

I won one of those cloupor mini plus' from the ECF part of the giveaway, received it within two weeks IIRC.
cloupor were bang on and so was innokin with the disruptors by all accounts.
Smok were just plain fuckin shit. And we all know Koopor are part of Smok, therefore by extension Koopor are fuckin shit.
I expect you'll get your prize, just that they'll be dragging their fuckin heels.

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And when I get it, it'll probably be obsolete by then. I'm still working on them. ECF, Smok, MadVapes. It's not just me getting screwed and wondering and waiting. There's several other. Some say, "I'll get it when I get it". Other think the way I do. "If you're gonna hold a contest, have the prizes ready to ship when you have all the names."

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Preorder your contest entries!

 

[UncleRJ]

I have a friend over on ECF that won the same prize package.

As of yesterday, still not a peep about his winnings.

And I quote. "Give me a tracking number or it did not happen".

You're not the only one being screwed over.

 

[Simply Red]

I have a friend over on ECF that won the same prize package.

As of yesterday, still not a peep about his winnings.

And I quote. "Give me a tracking number or it did not happen".

You're not the only one being screwed over.

And they're so clueless on how to properly hold a contest, they're asking me (with sincerity) how I would do it better next time.

 

[vuJim]

I know. They didn't give me one when I was in their "Sin Bin". Seriously? Sin Bin?? Can we grow up just a bit?

Dare I ask what is a "Sin Bin?"

Kinda sorta sounds like Planet Fitness's "Lunk Alarm." I found that so mind-bogglingly st00pid it precipitated my looking elsewhere for a gym membership.

 

[Simply Red]

Dare I ask what is a "Sin Bin?"

Kinda sorta sounds like Planet Fitness's "Lunk Alarm." I found that so mind-bogglingly st00pid it precipitated my looking elsewhere for a gym membership.

It's their "slap on the wrist and you're "suspended" for 3 days to a week depending on how bad you hurt my (admin/mod) feelings" ban. I mean, really. If you're that freakin' butt hurt, fill out one of these...

Add: My bad. Thanks Whiskey. I keep it in my file I case I have to hand it out.

 

[skiibo4200]

It's their "slap on the wrist and you're "suspended" for 3 days to a week depending on how bad you hurt my (admin/mod) feelings" ban. I mean, really. If you're that freakin' butt hurt, fill out one of these...

Add: My bad. Thanks Whiskey. I keep it in my file I case I have to hand it out.

Lmao that's haliarious.

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[Simply Red]

I reckon. FastTech anyone??

My apologies to FastTech.

The contest was over during the week ending 12/11. Still don't know when the tank will be here but, supposedly on the boat from China.

I ordered some Unicorn bottles for my DIY sales from FastTech on 12/28. They'll be here tomorrow.

 

[Simply Red]

http://www.koopor.com/news/koopor-plus-and-tfv4-mini-giveaway-winners.shtml

I'm holding my breath. Can you tell?

 

[Lost]

This caught my eye. From that link:

For U.S. winners, we will send all prizes to Madvapes after all winners’ info collected, and then Madvapes will send them to U.S. winners respectively.

"After all winners' info collected." Does that mean if there are U.S. winners who didn't give all the necessary info, shipment will be delayed to everyone?
Also... no tracking for you:

We will not inform tracking code one by one because of large amounts of information, please understand, thanks.

Collect info --> Kooper ships --> Madvapes ships --> Some company delivers. Thinking that will take a while.

 

[danjaman]

This caught my eye. From that link:

For U.S. winners, we will send all prizes to Madvapes after all winners’ info collected, and then Madvapes will send them to U.S. winners respectively.

"After all winners' info collected." Does that mean if there are U.S. winners who didn't give all the necessary info, shipment will be delayed to everyone?
Also... no tracking for you:

We will not inform tracking code one by one because of large amounts of information, please understand, thanks.

Collect info --> Kooper ships --> Madvapes ships --> Some company delivers. Thinking that will take a while.

That's the exact same statement they made when they'd fucked up the xcube2 and tfv4 prizes.
Mine took about a month from the date of winning, maybe more, I can't remember.
They're useless.
But you can't say a bad word against the prize givers because all the ass riders pile on you and then the fuckin nazis step in and fuck you over.

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[Lost]

But you can't say a bad word against the prize givers

If I complained about any free PIF I get here, I should be sent straight to hell.

Complaining about company prizes? Those are wrapped into promotional budgets and PR. Winners are just numbers. Shipping out the product is the extra annoyance at the end of the process.

 

[Simply Red]

If it's that much of an "annoyance" for them, maybe they shouldn't offer to sponsor contests. Just sayin'. And if their product is decent (not saying Smok is. I don't have any) wouldn't us "numbers" possibly turn into potential future customers?? Just sayin' again.

 

[Simply Red]

This caught my eye. From that link:

For U.S. winners, we will send all prizes to Madvapes after all winners’ info collected, and then Madvapes will send them to U.S. winners respectively.

"After all winners' info collected." Does that mean if there are U.S. winners who didn't give all the necessary info, shipment will be delayed to everyone?
Also... no tracking for you:

We will not inform tracking code one by one because of large amounts of information, please understand, thanks.

Collect info --> Kooper ships --> Madvapes ships --> Some company delivers. Thinking that will take a while.

I saw that, too...at the bottom of the page. This was at the top...

We had finished collecting all winners' shipping information on 29th Dec. And now, all prizes have been sent out:
For USA winners, we sent all prizes by DHL and winners list will arrive to Madvapes on 7th, Jan., when they receive prizes, they will arrange to send the prizes to winners one by one.

 

[Lost]

wouldn't us "numbers" possibly turn into potential future customers??

Thought about that. Obviously getting their stuff to reviewers is priority because of reach. After that, potential future customers and word of mouth from them? If they're a with-it company, they have numbers on loss of inventory for promotions versus potential future sales. They'd have overall profit targets with ways to achieve it (advertising/promotions). But who knows if companies that mass produce product actually care about their customers on an individual level.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Thought about that. Obviously getting their stuff to reviewers is priority because of reach. After that, potential future customers and word of mouth from them? If they're a with-it company, they have numbers on loss of inventory for promotions versus potential future sales. They'd have overall profit targets with ways to achieve it (advertising/promotions). But who knows if companies that mass produce product actually care about their customers on an individual level.

obviously they don't. But, what they are doing is getting a good dose of negative publicity and advertising now. Any company that can't follow through with a promise is.bound to lose money.

 

[Simply Red]

Thought about that. Obviously getting their stuff to reviewers is priority because of reach. After that, potential future customers and word of mouth from them? If they're a with-it company, they have numbers on loss of inventory for promotions versus potential future sales. They'd have overall profit targets with ways to achieve it (advertising/promotions). But who knows if companies that mass produce product actually care about their customers on an individual level.

I'm gonna say SmokTech doesn't. I don't know who's lying but, here's some events...

According to the latest "update" from Koopor/Smok on their web site, MadVapes received the winners list and prizes on the 7th. This I did not know until recently.

On the 8th, I opened a ticket with MadVapes requesting the black TFV4 if possible. I was nice and not demanding. If they can, they can. If not, that's ok, too.

Today is the 11th and I just got an answer from MadVapes...

When we receive the list from smok tech we must go in order and no certain item can be reserved. Thank you and have a great day.

"When we receive the list from smok tech..." WTF?? Seriously?? Did MV get the shit or not? Is Smok pulling some BULLSHIT (there's that word again) or what??

Additionally, I'd say Smok doesn't care about their "customers" on an individual level when the "[email protected]" can't get up the ballz to answer the emails I've sent.

 

[Lost]

what they are doing is getting a good dose of negative publicity

Number of people getting free stuff: 400
Number of thread views, despite this being buried in the Mud Pit: 1,313
Number of people on VU right now: 3,645

 

[Simply Red]

***UPDATE***

Through my several emails to Koopor.com and SmokTech.com, I've received an answer with tracking. Something is in NC but, don't know if it's just mine or all of the winners. I would venture to say it's the whole kit-n-kaboodle. Left Hong Kong on the 10th. So much for MadVapes having it on the 7th.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

***UPDATE***

Through my several emails to Koopor.com and SmokTech.com, I've received an answer with tracking. Something is in NC but, don't know if it's just mine or all of the winners. I would venture to say it's the whole kit-n-kaboodle. Left Hong Kong on the 10th. So much for MadVapes having it on the 7th.

So it left china after you raised 7 kinds of hell and out them on blast?

 

[Simply Red]

Ya huh. And, included in that email I received, they're getting ready for their "Chinese New Year". Well, that's all fine, well and good but, see my Op on what I think about that. Basically?? They did no planning as far as I'm concerned.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Ya huh. And, included in that email I received, they're getting ready for their "Chinese New Year". Well, that's all fine, well and good but, see my Op on what I think about that. Basically?? They did no planning as far as I'm concerned.

Nope, there only concern was getting what they want and fuck everyone else.
-wonder if my exwife set that up

 

[KY_Rob]

Heya Red ole buddy! Sorry to hear about your winnings fiasco. Sux dude! Maybe ECF is based in IL! In that state, iffin ya win the state lotto, you get the prize similarly to the way ECF apparently delivers...justa thought

 

[Simply Red]

What up, dude!!

 

[cobalt327]

My observation is, if you already know ecf is full of lying asshat nazis and that smok sucks the big one, why in hell would you enter the goddamn contest in the first place???

FWIW there are a few people who bought smok treebox mods who say they work good including in TC mode- supposedly support all the major wore types as well as having programmable TCR and IIRC updatable fw.

 

[Whiskey]

My observation is, if you already know ecf is full of lying asshat nazis and that smok sucks the big one, why in hell would you enter the goddamn contest in the first place???

FWIW there are a few people who bought smok treebox mods who say they work good including in TC mode- supposedly support all the major wore types as well as having programmable TCR and IIRC updatable fw.

 

[Simply Red]

My observation is, if you already know ecf is full of lying asshat nazis and that smok sucks the big one, why in hell would you enter the goddamn contest in the first place???

FWIW there are a few people who bought smok treebox mods who say they work good including in TC mode- supposedly support all the major wore types as well as having programmable TCR and IIRC updatable fw.

A moment of senility kicked in and at that point I was committed.......or should have been.

I, also, didn't know that Smok "sucks the big one" as I've never owned any of their products so, the jury is still out on that aspect of Smok. As far as the "sucks the big one" as a company, I'm in full agreement now that I know how they operate.

 

[cobalt327]

Smok lost me when they called their m80 pos "TC"- they lied, it isn't. Not even close. Their newer stuff seems to be okay but take that w/a grain of salt as I'm only going by second hand info. I do hope you eventually get the mod. I wouldn't worry about being obsolete- what isn't after a couple weeks these days?

 

[Simply Red]

I saw that, too...at the bottom of the page. This was at the top...

We had finished collecting all winners' shipping information on 29th Dec. And now, all prizes have been sent out:
For USA winners, we sent all prizes by DHL and winners list will arrive to Madvapes on 7th, Jan., when they receive prizes, they will arrange to send the prizes to winners one by one.

Let's cover our asses and change some verbiage, shall we??

We had finished collecting all winners' shipping information on 29th Dec. And now, all prizes have been sent out:
For USA winners, all prizes were sent out firstly on 7th, Jan to Madvapes by DHL, and after madvapes have received the prizes, they will send it to winners respectively as fast as they can, so please just wait patiently.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

 

[Simply Red]

Reloading and repositioning my sights. I have the tracking from Koopor/Smok that shows the tanks and devices were delivered to MadVapes. Before that, I questioned MadVapes asking if they had or had not gotten the shipment. So, in order...(not verbatim)

MadVapes - "We haven't received the shipment"
Koopor/Smok - "MadVapes received the shipment. See?? Here's the tracking..."
(5 minutes ago, and I quote) MadVapes - " We understand you would like your device asap. However, Koopor has not sent us the devices yet. We should get them and send them out in the next 4-5 weeks. thank you and have a great day."

They're all a bunch of fucking liars!! At this point, I don't even want the damn thing! Fuck 'em if they can't be honest and tell the truth.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Reloading and repositioning my sights. I have the tracking from Koopor/Smok that shows the tanks and devices were delivered to MadVapes. Before that, I questioned MadVapes asking if they had or had not gotten the shipment. So, in order...(not verbatim)

MadVapes - "We haven't received the shipment"
Koopor/Smok - "MadVapes received the shipment. See?? Here's the tracking..."
(5 minutes ago, and I quote) MadVapes - " We understand you would like your device asap. However, Koopor has not sent us the devices yet. We should get them and send them out in the next 4-5 weeks. thank you and have a great day."

They're all a bunch of fucking liars!! At this point, I don't even want the damn thing! Fuck 'em if they can't be honest and tell the truth.

Wow dude, that one shocks me. I've done biz with madvapes once, 2 years ago. They are a sizeable operation for a retail vape outlet; but, I would have expected a better operation,

 

[Simply Red]

The email I got was in the form of a "ticket response" and with that, MadVapes closed the ticket. The email was from '[email protected]' so, I replied and told them to keep the damn tank and delete my account. I'm not doing business with deceptive companies.

 

[Zamazam]

Could it be that Madvapes got the shipment and began selling the tanks?

 

[Simply Red]

Could it be that Madvapes got the shipment and began selling the tanks?

I wouldn't put it passed them.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

wow dude liars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Simply Red]

wow dude liars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, I swear if, by some strange reason and the damn stars align just right, they send me the tank, I'll send it right back to them. I'd sell it in the trading post but, I'm not promoting their crap/company either. They can...

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Reporting

 

[Whiskey]