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So, I just started vaping again and I want to get into building my own coils instead of buying premade clapton or staple spools. Can someone provide me or point me towards a list of wire sizes and types to start making things like frapples, Cat tracks and other advanced builds. I'm tired of plain old clapton's and want to get into making exotic coil porn worthy builds. Keep in mind that I am a disabled veteran and haven't gotten my 100% yet so I don't have the money to go and buy one of every guage. I prefer nichrome over Stainless steel and I'm not a big fan of kanthal as I think it has a wierd taste. I added a few pics of the stuff I would like to learn to build.
 

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MrMeowgi

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I like framed staple coils myself. Not too hard to build. For mine I use 28g N80 for the frames, for the ribbon I use kanthal *1x*3or*4 and 36 N80 or ss. Just depends on if I want color or not. Nick Devine on YouTube has some great videos.
For alien coils I recommend M. Terks alien video for the best one. There is wire math you have to do for the different decore sizes and his video explains it great.
But sizes I used when I made aliens was 3x28 36 or40g wrap. N80 most times.
I've only ever made one usable staple staggered fused Clapton but it was a 3 hour because I didn't have a routine for it.

As far as wire that is personal preference. Stick with N80. You can get ribbon in N80 and ss as well. I have some framed staples that are all ss and duals come out to .13.. Pretty damn good ramp up time.
 

MrMeowgi

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I use kanthal with the ribbon to keeps the ohms up just a little bit so I don't have to make as many wraps for the coil. 1x3 will be a little smaller but honestly I find the 1x4 easier to work with. You can get all N80. No problem. If the coils ohm too low. Next one just add another wrap. Get yourself a vape calculator or coil calculator. I use an app called vape tool on the Google play store. But you can also use a website called "steamengine.org". Not sure if you knew that or not. Just thought I'd give it a mention.
 

MrMeowgi

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Oh the 26,28,36,40.those are just the sizes I prefer. I usually stick with 28g everything but sometimes a 26g just works better. And as far as wrap wire 36 and 40 most for me. But yea, my list would be 28g,36 or 38 even easier to see than 40.n80 then ribbon would be 1mmx4.
 
Gotcha, lightning vapes is now wireoptim! Didn't know that. They are having a 30% off sale right now for the next 6 days on everything on there site.
 

MrMeowgi

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Advanced vape supply is having a big sale. Well they were hadn't been there in a week or so. But actually got a spool of framed staple that I'm really impressed with. Also a spool of triple core fused Claptons. Was able to get 1000 ft of ss for half price. I know you're not looking for ss so wire optim may be you're best if n80 is what you're after though. Avs carries only ss wire. But single wire as well as premade spools.
 

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Nichrome 80 is my only choice too. For a regulated mod, 28g looks to be a popular choice for the cores, with either 36g or 38g for the wrap wire. On a regulated mod I suggest trying tri-core aliens 28/36, 7 wraps 3mm ID, dual coil at .2 ohms. I like to think of this as a basic reference, or sweet spot in terms of best flavor performance versus not putting in fairly huge amounts of extra effort to try and get an even better vape. But I only use mech setups, and, I also like to use 27g and 29g a lot. And .3×.1 ribbon of course. The 27g is what I find to be indispensable for making tri-core aliens on a single battery mech, dual coil at .11 ohms, 5 wraps 2.5mm ID. These can also be bought from m.terk, they're on his list of different specs that you can choose between. Essentially, this is the "mech version" of my aforementioned reference point.

Still talking about aliens (sorry about that, but there's a reason why aliens are very much relevant for every coil builder IMO...), switching from tri-core 27g to quad-core 28g doesn't provide a better vape IME, and the former option is easier to make. Whereas tri-core 26g gives too much rampup for my liking. But dual coil at .08 ohms, quad-core 26g at 4 wraps 3mm ID (pic below) does work, if you, like me, prefer a warmer vape with some juices and you know what it all takes to fine tune all the various key parameters to turn that into a vape that's just warm, i.e. not a scaldingly hot one that burns the inside of your lips. :)

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Okay, enough about aliens for now. The coil in your third pic is called the stapled helix build (by a woman named Wire Theory on instagram)... it's an excellent choice of build that I love to use on a dual battery PWM (true PWM) mod. So here's an old pic of a stapled helix build I made:

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In my above example I used 32g for the frames, 40g for the wrap wire as that perfectly matches the depth of the groove. It looks rather exotic no doubt, but the flavor performance I find to be nonetheless exemplary TBH. It is a .22 ohms single coil.

As for the 29g, it matches the .3 width of .3×.1 ribbon more closely than 28g does. So I tend to choose 29g to make my fraliens, but I also like to use it for tri-core aliens 29/36, 7 wraps 3mm ID, dual coil at .25 ohms on a stacked/series mech (pic below).

29g aliens.jpg
 
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Thank you for the in depth explanation. I used to build but it was only clapton's and double core tripple core. I'm gonna get a bunch of different gauges and just screw around to see what I like the most. I eventually want to make things like a 30 ply staple and helix builds.
 

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