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TrollDragon

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Any forum admin using xenforo or any other forum software can read private messages
in the server log file. However, that's a major mission involving lots of text, especially in a forum as large as this or ECF

I'm not familiar with that add on but undoubtedly it's a search engine add on that can be matched to an author
but undoubtedly it would be illegal to use unless the forum admin stated in the small print that they might do so
and/or law enforcement presented a warrant.
Besides, they'd have to be really pissed off at you to go through such a mission.
I was just saying it is easily available without having to go through logs.
It is already in the ToS that any content submitted is theirs and maybe reviewed by staff.
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/help/terms
 

roxynoodle

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No, I'm not joking. His previous owner fed him junk for 28 years. He's filled with cholesterol. Its amazing he's alive. We consulted with every expert in the world on meds and dosages until we got his BP down and stabilized. For 2 years now he's been doing great :)
 

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I own Xenforo for a completely different type of forum, it would take a month of Sundays to go through all the server logs.

Seriously doubt anyone but the forum owner has access to the server, but who knows.
 

HazyShades

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I was just saying it is easily available without having to go through logs.
It is already in the ToS that any content submitted is theirs and maybe reviewed by staff.
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/help/terms
Yea. I'm saying it can be done just reading the log and that the add on you mention
is a text search engine. I also said it would be illegal but later when I thought about it
recalled reading something in the ECF rules which I read with a fine tooth legal comb
something to the effect of what you just mentioned in their general TOS.

Moreover, I recalled that my objection to the moderators and admin after my first problem at ECF
which was on my first post there and was with returd1, was rebuffed on the grounds that ECF is
a private legal entity incorporated in Britain (or Canada don't remember I'm old) and the legal rights expected by US citizens
didn't apply. Shut up or put up.

Further research leads me to believe that since their servers are located in the US
they're bounds by \US laws but that's really beyond my scope of expertise.

So..yeah, they could do it and probably get away with it
but the better have a real good reason.

WTF did the birdie shit on that y'all are worried about?
It's internet bullshit, man. Have Phun and Vape On.

Regards,
Hazy :cool:
 

HazyShades

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I own Xenforo for a completely different type of forum, it would take a month of Sundays to go through all the server logs.

Seriously doubt anyone but the forum owner has access to the server, but who knows.
Si man. Any old senior admin would..but my point is who the heck would? It's a ton of text so unless you can sort and search why bother?
 

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I own Xenforo for a completely different type of forum, it would take a month of Sundays to go through all the server logs.

Seriously doubt anyone but the forum owner has access to the server, but who knows.

I hope you're right. I feel like some stranger is rooting through my underwear drawer.
 

roxynoodle

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Yea. I'm saying it can be done just reading the log and that the add on you mention
is a text search engine. I also said it would be illegal but later when I thought about it
recalled reading something in the ECF rules which I read with a fine tooth legal comb
something to the effect of what you just mentioned in their general TOS.

Moreover, I recalled that my objection to the moderators and admin after my first problem at ECF
which was on my first post there and was with returd1, was rebuffed on the grounds that ECF is
a private legal entity incorporated in Britain (or Canada don't remember I'm old) and the legal rights expected by US citizens
didn't apply. Shut up or put up.

Further research leads me to believe that since their servers are located in the US
they're bounds by \US laws but that's really beyond my scope of expertise.

So..yeah, they could do it and probably get away with it
but the better have a real good reason.

WTF did the birdie shit on that y'all are worried about?
It's internet bullshit, man. Have Phun and Vape On.

Regards,
Hazy :cool:

I had the audacity to design an atty.
 

HazyShades

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No, I'm not joking. His previous owner fed him junk for 28 years. He's filled with cholesterol. Its amazing he's alive. We consulted with every expert in the world on meds and dosages until we got his BP down and stabilized. For 2 years now he's been doing great :)
Would apple cider vinegar harm him? That stuff dissolves cholesterol big time
 

roxynoodle

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I need to go to bed, but that's the long and short of it. I don't have any money to produce anything. So I didn't supply anything to members but information.
 

HazyShades

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Basically. I just wanted it to be made. And it was something to do. A company in China made it.
I gotcha. I invent shit and design the better this and that all the time.
The thrill of seeing yer baby..how the heck did ECF get involved, y'all discussed your baby
and they got pissed?
They want credit, a piece of the action, referral rights, shit.
If going there interests you I'd talk to Joe Petner. He's got a much better marketing machine
than Oliver.

That really sucks but doesn't surprise me
 

HazyShades

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I need to go to bed, but that's the long and short of it. I don't have any money to produce anything. So I didn't supply anything to members but information.
yeah but in doing so you came off like you were selling it so they hit you with
unregistered supplier.
That sucks. Get your correspondence out of there and chill.
I saw you said you're going to crash.
Have a good night and think good stuff. Seems that all your friends followed you over
so you know their colors.
Be good.
Nice to meet you.
Hazy
 

HazyShades

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You still retain full copyright of your pictures and created content. I am not a lawyer and don't know if their ToS would stand up or not.
No you don't. Over here VU can put a vapingunderground overlay on stuff you post.
You post it's theirs, copyright or not.

Their TOS would take international legal action to fight.
It's like you're in somebody's house you play by their rules.
Sorta how Store security can detain and search you. Gave up yer rights when you walked in the store..more or less
 
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HazyShades

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It was handy while it lasted, but it's no longer much of a convenience. Honestly, I don't even know what to do with it. I got it for a steal on Black Friday, so putting money into it seems silly. I suppose it's a back up if everything else I own dies, lol.

you stole it on Good Friday...maybe you'll win a laptop as punishment for your sins
 

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No, I didn't steal it. I got it FOR a steal. $34! It served me well, but briefly.

No, I'm wasn't angry with her. Was my own fault for not putting it even higher up.
 

Hank F. Spankman

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Me too! Has the rounded back. I think some did not though. I have been using my Ibanez acoustic more lately. I was going to ask who all was musically inclined here. I saw the post earlier about guitars.

I started on bass then guitar for the last 20 years and drums for the last 10 years. Mostly metal. Like death metal lol. Started playing the Native American Flute 8 months ago. Such an amazing sound.
Me & you, we'll get along just fine. I played guitar for a long time. Although I sold all my gear, guitars included.
 

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Any forum admin using xenforo or any other forum software can read private messages
in the server log file. However, that's a major mission involving lots of text, especially in a forum as large as this or ECF

I'm not familiar with that add on but undoubtedly it's a search engine add on that can be matched to an author
but undoubtedly it would be illegal to use unless the forum admin stated in the small print that they might do so
and/or law enforcement presented a warrant.
Besides, they'd have to be really pissed off at you to go through such a mission.
I'm sure retarded has a platinum copy of that software & sits under Smoking Cocks desk with the rest of the mods ( except Robin) in their feety jammies finding out that we ARE NOW, & for some probably Always, talking shit about them!
And for the dead (or sleeping) parrot pics; I'm really not feeling it! Especially if your flying Petey proud as your avatar! To me it seems to send a mixed message & retarded & the rest of the muds might take pleasure in seeing a parrot dead! Not trying to spoil anyone's fun but it might just backfire & give pleasure to the ones we are trying to make a statement to! JMHO!
ANYWAY YOU CAN'T KILL A VAPING GODDESS! SILLIES!:D
 

AndriaD

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Hey Hazy, you call your bud Steve...o_O:)
Yes I see he continues to hone his interpersonal communication skills.

Actually I haven't seen him around here in a while either... think he got a vacation courtesy of the mods.. :D So, clearly, he's no more pleasant nor popular here than he was at ECF... maybe even less, in fact, if that's even possible. :D

Andria
 

Vesuvius

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Vaping Underground is ill. In fact, its the illest lol.

ECF just sucks and is boring. It is like supr said, im still there just to help noobs because they dont know any better and thats what it is really all about. We have our fun but, if it was not for forums helping me since 08.....

Plus, every time I reply to something, they see that little birdie!
 

AndriaD

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Now that I know that some of you use your avatars to express your sentiments, I have a question -- I never asked it at ECF because I figured the mods would stomp it, and the situation passed, so I kinda forgot about it, but now I recall -- what was that "je suis Charlie" stuff that was going on for a while? I never could figure out who Charlie was, or why so many claimed to be him. @Rossum, I think you had that avatar for a while.

Inquiring minds... ;)

Andria
 

Rossum

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I designed an RTA. I really don't understand why that pissed them off. Other members do it all the time, and its never been a problem for them.
Although not privy to the details, there have been a number of other people in similar situations that they've run off the site under similar circumstance. The one that comes pops into my mind first is gdeal, but there are quite a few others, and a few who capitulated and came back as vendors after being run off.

I understand them charging vendors who are actually using the place as a platform to advertise or sell stuff, but the manner in which they ban people first (often deleting much of their content in the process) and ask questions later strikes me as uncivil (to put it mildly).
 

AndriaD

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Although not privy to the details, there have been a number of other people in similar situations that they've run off the site under similar circumstance. The one that comes pops into my mind first is gdeal, but there are quite a few others, and a few who capitulated and came back as vendors after being run off.

I understand them charging vendors who are actually using the place as a platform to advertise or sell stuff, but the manner in which they ban people first (often deleting much of their content in the process) and ask questions later strikes me as uncivil (to put it mildly).

I think they're playing a game called "Let's see how unpleasant we can make this place and still have suckers signing up and using it."

Andria
 

Vesuvius

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I think they're playing a game called "Let's see how unpleasant we can make this place and still have suckers signing up and using it."

Andria
Which is mind boggling, any forum is what it is because of the members, the senior and experienced members plain and simple. It just says to me that they really dont care and that will be their downfall.
 
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