ECF Refugee Thread All welcome though

[Jetson]

Why even have a public website if you're going to chase half the people away, ban the other half, and force the third half into a banal conformity? Maybe my math doesn't add up but neither does their approach to a forum. Nobody fits one mold. Without change most of us would still be smoking cigarettes.

 

[Vesuvius]

Although not privy to the details, there have been a number of other people in similar situations that they've run off the site under similar circumstance. The one that comes pops into my mind first is gdeal, but there are quite a few others, and a few who capitulated and came back as vendors after being run off.

I understand them charging vendors who are actually using the place as a platform to advertise or sell stuff, but the manner in which they ban people first (often deleting much of their content in the process) and ask questions later strikes me as uncivil (to put it mildly).

A big reason, that I beleive vaping has come as far as it did, is because of people like Roxy and the rest of use that have shared our ideas and input on the forums over the years. All of us modders and tweakers (not the **** kind)( I guess I do act like a tweaker when I am mixing juice lol).

Look how far we came from blue foam and fucking teabags.

 

[Rossum]

A big reason, that I beleive vaping has come as far as it did, is because of people like Roxy and the rest of use that have shared our ideas and input on the forums over the years. All of us modders and tweakers (not the **** kind)( I guess I do act like a tweaker when I am mixing juice lol).

Look how far we came from blue foam and fucking teabags.

Agreed, but let's give credit where credit is due. Much of that progress happened there.

 

[Rossum]

what was that "je suis Charlie" stuff that was going on for a while? I never could figure out who Charlie was, or why so many claimed to be him.

That had nothing to do with ECF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Je_suis_Charlie

 

[Vesuvius]

Agreed, but let's give credit where credit is due. Much of that progress happened there.

Im not saying it didnt. Im just refering to the community as a whole.

 

[Tol]

Still just scratching my head at this. So why delete posts/threads when you can move them to another sub-forum that they can't be seen until further review? Why ban first? Why not wait and see if they try to use the forums for free advertising or not? If it becomes a problem, THEN you warn/ban. That is what the REPORT button is for. *sigh*

 

[AndriaD]

Which is mind boggling, any forum is what it is because of the members, the senior and experienced members plain and simple. It just says to me that they really dont care and that will be their downfall.

It's much the same phenomenon of many workplaces, who treat their employees like shit and then have the temerity to wonder why their turnover is so high... Looking at you, McD's... and every other fastfood joint in the world...

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

That had nothing to do with ECF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Je_suis_Charlie

After reading that, I'd have to say it's right on point with ECF and their idiotic censorship! Banning Roxy because she designed an atty! Suspending me for making a comment about herbS! (I have never once heard the verboten substance described in the plural, only the singular).

Andria

 

[roxynoodle]

So Roxy, you got nothing for your design? Did they at least give you a free Boreas or two?

Yeah, I got a Boreas, but you could say I also had to test our final one.

 

[roxynoodle]

Although not privy to the details, there have been a number of other people in similar situations that they've run off the site under similar circumstance. The one that comes pops into my mind first is gdeal, but there are quite a few others, and a few who capitulated and came back as vendors after being run off.

I understand them charging vendors who are actually using the place as a platform to advertise or sell stuff, but the manner in which they ban people first (often deleting much of their content in the process) and ask questions later strikes me as uncivil (to put it mildly).

They never asked me a single question, nor ever replied to the email I was required to send. And it was a polite email, though if I were to send it today it would not be.

 

[roxynoodle]

Still just scratching my head at this. So why delete posts/threads when you can move them to another sub-forum that they can't be seen until further review? Why ban first? Why not wait and see if they try to use the forums for free advertising or not? If it becomes a problem, THEN you warn/ban. That is what the REPORT button is for. *sigh*

It wasn't fair to the other members that they deleted the thread. Why not just lock it?

 

[OneBadWolf]

We can even have a campfire on a virtual porch.

Well, maybe a small one.....

 

[The Cromwell]

Well, maybe a small one.....

A good thing that virtual campfires will not burn my feet in my recliner.

 

[roxynoodle]

I heard they also stated I brought the forum negative publicity.

 

[The Cromwell]

I heard they also stated I brought the forum negative publicity.

Well their giving you the boot brought them lots of negative publicity.

 

[OneBadWolf]

Why even have a public website if you're going to chase half the people away, ban the other half, and force the third half into a banal conformity? Maybe my math doesn't add up but neither does their approach to a forum. Nobody fits one mold. Without change most of us would still be smoking cigarettes.

Beatings will be doubled untii morale improves.

 

[The Cromwell]

Word is spreading of the Roxy/ECF debacle beyond these 2 forums.
Has even gone international.

 

[roxynoodle]

Word is spreading of the Roxy/ECF debacle beyond these 2 forums.
Has even gone international.

To where? I did see a nasty post about me on reddit. From some ecf coward who used a different user name so no one would know who s/he was.

 

[Huckleberried]

I heard they also stated I brought the forum negative publicity.

Wow. Just wow.

I realize I don't know most of you, yet, but I remember what it was like when I was there. The day I joined here, it felt like home to me. All my peeps were here, and we all came here for a very similar reason, because our friend was "moved on" for ridiculous reasons. We dug right in and stayed. I still hear about all the bullshit that goes on there and I'm so happy to not put up with it anymore.

Glad you guys are here. Hope you find it as comfy and homey as we have.

 

[AndriaD]

Wow. Just wow.

I realize I don't know most of you, yet, but I remember what it was like when I was there. The day I joined here, it felt like home to me. All my peeps were here, and we all came here for a very similar reason, because our friend was "moved on" for ridiculous reasons. We dug right in and stayed. I still hear about all the bullshit that goes on there and I'm so happy to not put up with it anymore.

Glad you guys are here. Hope you find it as comfy and homey as we have.

VU is positively wonderful. You guys have made me feel right at home since I got here and really started posting almost 2 months ago -- bless you, all of you!!! I was missing my ECF friends so much, but now I've got new friends, and a lot of my old friends are now showing up here. Couldn't imagine better than that.

Andria

 

[Rossum]

They never asked me a single question, nor ever replied to the email I was required to send. And it was a polite email, though if I were to send it today it would not be.

It wasn't fair to the other members that they deleted the thread. Why not just lock it?

Don't take it too personally, Roxy. You're not the first person they've done that to, and I suspect you won't be the last.

 

[The Cromwell]

To where? I did see a nasty post about me on reddit. From some ecf coward who used a different user name so no one would know who s/he was.

Actually it has gone interstellar. Sent a subsmail back home to Beta Triangula 6 about it.

Was not me, don't do Redit.

 

[TrollDragon]

Don't take it too personally, Roxy. You're not the first person they've done that to, and I suspect you won't be the last.

dwcraig was telling me about a similar stunt they tried pulling in the Evolv thread one time...

 

[Vesuvius]

Wow. Just wow.

I realize I don't know most of you, yet, but I remember what it was like when I was there. The day I joined here, it felt like home to me. All my peeps were here, and we all came here for a very similar reason, because our friend was "moved on" for ridiculous reasons. We dug right in and stayed. I still hear about all the bullshit that goes on there and I'm so happy to not put up with it anymore.

Glad you guys are here. Hope you find it as comfy and homey as we have.

You have made us feel very welcome. Thank you for that!

 

[c flakes]

Word is spreading of the Roxy/ECF debacle beyond these 2 forums.
Has even gone international.

Word has made it all the way to Canada.

 

[TrollDragon]

@roxynoodle Be sure to let us know when the Merlin is available!

I have a CoV Mini Volt, Stumpy, Goblin Mini V2, Hannya post-less RTA and a Moonshot inbound. So I just need a Merlin to round it off!

I hate waiting for Vape mail!

 

[roxynoodle]

Actually it has gone interstellar. Sent a subsmail back home to Beta Triangula 6 about it.

Was not me, don't do Redit.

Lol! Robert, I don't understand what that means subsmail? Interstellar? Beta Triangula 6?

 

[TrollDragon]

Word has made it all the way to Canada.

Where?

 

[roxynoodle]

@roxynoodle Be sure to let us know when the Merlin is available!

I have a CoV Mini Volt, Stumpy, Goblin Mini V2, Hannya post-less RTA and a Moonshot inbound. So I just need a Merlin to round it off!

I hate waiting for Vape mail!

Hoping to be doing the prototype testing this weekend or early next week.

 

[Vesuvius]

I don't know half of these folks either. I didn't even know Roxy but, I will stand with anybody wronged over some bullshit.

 

[Huckleberried]

I have a CoV Mini Volt, Stumpy, Goblin Mini V2

I reallllllly enjoy the Goblin mini v2 (and the v1), and the Minivolt is perfect for my work days or quick trips out and around when you wanna keep things light and simple.

 

[Light seeker]

I don't know half of these folks either. I didn't even know Roxy but, I will stand with anybody wronged over some bullshit.

Ditto. x1000.
It's a matter of principles.

 

[Tol]

Ditto. x1000.
It's a matter of principles.

^^This^^

I can't even begin to understand the thought process there. I understand the need for policies and the need to follow them, but it seems like the enforcement is a bit extreme. It's not right and it's just plain not nice, They are being VERY un-dude right now.

 

[roxynoodle]

^^This^^

I can't even begin to understand the thought process there. I understand the need for policies and the need to follow them, but it seems like the enforcement is a bit extreme. It's not right and it's just plain not nice, They are being VERY un-dude right now.

They didn't change the rule that designers are now suppliers until AFTER they booted me. So I broke a rule that didn't exist yet!

And as far as I know, the other members who've done the same thing are there, unsanctioned (think Q, who has posted about 2 attys he designed for byLeo, and a mech for Gus with his name on it).

 

[Huckleberried]

Un-dude, LOL

 

[The Cromwell]

Lol! Robert, I don't understand what that means subsmail? Interstellar? Beta Triangula 6?

I am an illegal alien. Anywhere on Earth.

Subsmail = Sub Space mail.

 

[Tol]

They didn't change the rule that designers are now suppliers until AFTER they booted me. So I broke a rule that didn't exist yet!

And as far as I know, the other members who've done the same thing are there, unsanctioned (think Q, who has posted about 2 attys he designed for byLeo, and a mech for Gus with his name on it).

Well that is a bunch of bullshit

 

[c flakes]

I am an illegal alien. Anywhere on Earth.

Subsmail = Sub Space mail.

If you have any time travel abilities can you give some insight into the future of vaping.

 

[Whiskey]

Don't take it too personally, Roxy. You're not the first person they've done that to, and I suspect you won't be the last.

LMAO, just ask Classy if she'd like to have tea with Whiskey

 

[inspects]

They didn't change the rule that designers are now suppliers until AFTER they booted me. So I broke a rule that didn't exist yet!

And as far as I know, the other members who've done the same thing are there, unsanctioned (think Q, who has posted about 2 attys he designed for byLeo, and a mech for Gus with his name on it).

Wow..indeed...wonder why he is not banned....I would surmise he is banned now.....Correct?......
Unbelievable.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

Wow..indeed...wonder why he is not banned....I would surmise he is banned now.....Correct?......
Unbelievable.

wait. they banned Qorax? That's another of one that helped me out a lot when I was just getting started

 

[Tol]

wait. they banned Qorax? That's another of one that helped me out a lot when I was just getting started

No he is still active over there at this very moment.

 

[f1r3b1rd]

No he is still active over there at this very moment.

oh ok... do you know which tanks he had designed?

 

[Tol]

oh ok... do you know which tanks he had designed?

No clue

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[inspects]

They have selective banning I assume.

 

[liblue]

I made this account awhile back.......but I didn't like some of the BS that went on here either.....so I never posted or used it till recently......I recognize some of you.....

 

[inspects]

Qorax is a nice guy, always helpful, just like Roxy.

 

[Light seeker]

I can only assume someone, probably a supplier, was bitching & moaning about the augvape/roxy thread.

 

[inspects]

I can only assume someone, probably a supplier, was bitching & moaning about the augvape/roxy thread.

I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[roxynoodle]

oh ok... do you know which tanks he had designed?

Apollo and Calix based on what he's posted.