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I hope soon. Unfortunately, we had to make changes. Somehow the deck ended up on an atty made by another company!
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I really can't yet because of all the sinister shit going on with vaping :( Our deck design was stolen. So was my idea of the airhole insert. We are on our third redesign due to all the theft already.
oh that sucks im sorry to hear about that.
its been going on since before the footoon theft
 

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I don't know what exactly is happening. It could all be coincidence. I didn't think so, but then Augvape and I came up with the same idea for a new atty simutaneously! So it is possible I guess.

We are keeping the airhole insert. That one is my fault for posting about it on forums.
 

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hmmm... sounds like a much needed atty. I was using the serpant and tfv4 for single coil. but both of which have rhere issues. - mostly they are ugly.
 

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hmmm... sounds like a much needed atty. I was using the serpant and tfv4 for single coil. but both of which have rhere issues. - mostly they are ugly.

I like the look of the Serpent. What I don't like is that it can't be disassembled for cleaning or repair. Broken glass or bad o ring, in the garbage it goes.
 

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I like the look of the Serpent. What I don't like is that it can't be disassembled for cleaning or repair. Broken glass or bad o ring, in the garbage it goes.
I don't like a whole lot of metal on a tank at all. but you know-personal taste is just that. I loved the look of the aqua's and taifuns. I'm a sucker for an all clear tank
 

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Hmmm... the iPV Mini could probably handle it fine, it's such a heavy mod... but it might overwhelm my CF4s, which are fairly solid but not really heavy. I know you wouldn't bash tootle puffers, being an "all round" vaper yourself... but it really is getting harder and harder to find really good atties suitable for tootle puffers. I don't want anything that uses pre-made coils, want strictly rebuildable... but those are becoming more and more the province of huffers rather than vapers. :(




And that just sucks royally. Not that you have to keep it secret; I know most folks that design things like to keep their secrets until the big reveal... but that someone would steal the design. I hope the airhole insert idea will remain, even if perhaps implemented differently; it would be a godsend for MtL vapers like me, even though most these days prefer the wide-open draw.

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DANG HUFFERS! Oh. Wait... :)
 

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nice! i am actually working on two different flavors though - one is blueberry (testing a couple variants - blueberry cream, blueberry cheesecake) and another is classic beignet... have 11 testers to mix up this weekend, total but going to add this to my notes - thanks!

I took the unicorn milk recipe that been floating around, substituted Caps Blueberry for Strawberry.....Dayamn its good!
 

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I've been confused by those of you who have a new username AND avatar because I don't know who you are. But, I'm glad you joined us :)

I'm glad MOST of us kept our names and avatars the same, however, LLB was easy to peg. I suspected it was him the first post I read, then the second one I read, I knew it for sure. Some people don't have such a unique "style," though, and then it's kinda hard to tell. I'm sure there's still a bunch I haven't figured out, but give me time... ;)
 

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I've been confused by those of you who have a new username AND avatar because I don't know who you are. But, I'm glad you joined us :)

I have the same problem... if you're not using the same username or an avatar that I recognize... well, I don't know you. If I knew you over there... glad you could join us here! :) ETA: as for me... I don't know how to be anyone else. Everywhere I go... there I am! :D

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On top of the elitist "Provarinati" fanboy attitude.
exactly.... couple that with the racist slants, poor juvenile outcry for attention, and complete need to but in where they are obviously not welcome. one is only left to conclude that they didn't get enough love as a child henceforth:
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nice - did you do a straight percentage sub for the blueberry? the unicorn milk recipe i have uses 8.5% cap sweet strawberry...

Did the exact percentage that was called for of the Strawberry.

I have a bunch of other blueberry flavors I got in last time I was home and when I get back home next week am going to experiment with all of them in that recipe to see which on I like best.
 

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The problem I had with mixing by graduated cylinders is I like to experiment some and it took forever to mix up 10 or 15 10 ml batches. The a recipe would call for .3 ml of a flavor and the graduated go by .2 so drip drip drip, is that .3? Being older they eyes dont want to see those little lines as well anymore either.
Doing it by weight I can do a test batch easily. Look at it like this. I am going to make 5 15ml test batches of this with various fruit flavors.
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With using graduated cylinders it would take me over 30 minutes to mix up the 5 test batches, as well as a headache from the eye strain.
Doing it by weight I would line up 5 bottles. Put a bottle on the scale, hit tare to zero it out, drip in .47 grams of nicotine, grab the next bottle and rinse and repeat. Same with the other ingredients. 5 minutes later they are in the ultrasonic cleaner getting a speed steep. Say I dripped .5 grams of nicotine, so what. Its still a lot more accurate than guessing at the little lines in the cylinders.

Cleanup when using a scale is take the one or two pipettes you used, rinse them out, your done. Flavors I use a lot I usually buy in 4 oz size. At times I will pour some in a 30 ml dripper bottle so I wont need to use pipettes but if it is a flavor I dont use often then I will use the pipettes.

If others want to use cylinders to mix, thats cool. The main thing is your mixing!!! I just find for myself it is a lot easier and faster and accurate to mix with a scale. It is kinda like how we smokes, and how we vape. It is all about personal preference.
 

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The problem I had with mixing by graduated cylinders is I like to experiment some and it took forever to mix up 10 or 15 10 ml batches. The a recipe would call for .3 ml of a flavor and the graduated go by .2 so drip drip drip, is that .3? Being older they eyes dont want to see those little lines as well anymore either.
Doing it by weight I can do a test batch easily. Look at it like this. I am going to make 5 15ml test batches of this with various fruit flavors.

With using graduated cylinders it would take me over 30 minutes to mix up the 5 test batches, as well as a headache from the eye strain.
Doing it by weight I would line up 5 bottles. Put a bottle on the scale, hit tare to zero it out, drip in .47 grams of nicotine, grab the next bottle and rinse and repeat. Same with the other ingredients. 5 minutes later they are in the ultrasonic cleaner getting a speed steep. Say I dripped .5 grams of nicotine, so what. Its still a lot more accurate than guessing at the little lines in the cylinders.

Cleanup when using a scale is take the one or two pipettes you used, rinse them out, your done. Flavors I use a lot I usually buy in 4 oz size. At times I will pour some in a 30 ml dripper bottle so I wont need to use pipettes but if it is a flavor I dont use often then I will use the pipettes.

If others want to use cylinders to mix, thats cool. The main thing is your mixing!!! I just find for myself it is a lot easier and faster and accurate to mix with a scale. It is kinda like how we smokes, and how we vape. It is all about personal preference.

It's not necessary at all to use cylinders, to mix using liquid measures. I use syringes only, 1ml, 3ml, and 10ml sizes, and measure straight into the bottle the juice is going to stay in. Syringes are cheap -- just ordered a new 10pk of 10ml syringes from amazon for $3, free shipping, and each one will last at least a couple months. I don't use a lot of VG, but when I do need to measure it, I use 16ga 14ga needles, which makes a little faster than the 18ga I use for everything else. The 1ml syringes *can* be hard to read those .00 markings, but I don't use them too much; if I'm making at least a 30ml bottle, I generally just use the 3ml syringes and kinda round the hundredths; I only need the absolute exactitude of perfect hundredths if I'm mixing 10ml or less, like a test of a new recipe.

Andria
 

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It's not necessary at all to use cylinders, to mix using liquid measures. I use syringes only, 1ml, 3ml, and 10ml sizes, and measure straight into the bottle the juice is going to stay in. Syringes are cheap -- just ordered a new 10pk of 10ml syringes from amazon for $3, free shipping, and each one will last at least a couple months. I don't use a lot of VG, but when I do need to measure it, I use 16ga 14ga needles, which makes a little faster than the 18ga I use for everything else. The 1ml syringes *can* be hard to read those .00 markings, but I don't use them too much; if I'm making at least a 30ml bottle, I generally just use the 3ml syringes and kinda round the hundredths; I only need the absolute exactitude of perfect hundredths if I'm mixing 10ml or less, like a test of a new recipe.

Andria

Everything I mix is max VG and I keep a 250 ml bottle with a dripper cap on it for mixing as well as a couple larger bottle on my mixing shelf. I tried the syringes a few times and had the same problem I had with the cylinders. Your recipe calls for 3.3 ml of this concentrate....ok....I have a 5 ml syringe....where in the hell is that .3 line...... Ya know. With weight I can just drip until I hit the amount I want.
 

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The problem I had with mixing by graduated cylinders is I like to experiment some and it took forever to mix up 10 or 15 10 ml batches. The a recipe would call for .3 ml of a flavor and the graduated go by .2 so drip drip drip, is that .3? Being older they eyes dont want to see those little lines as well anymore either.
Doing it by weight I can do a test batch easily. Look at it like this. I am going to make 5 15ml test batches of this with various fruit flavors.
jCsOq1s.png


With using graduated cylinders it would take me over 30 minutes to mix up the 5 test batches, as well as a headache from the eye strain.
Doing it by weight I would line up 5 bottles. Put a bottle on the scale, hit tare to zero it out, drip in .47 grams of nicotine, grab the next bottle and rinse and repeat. Same with the other ingredients. 5 minutes later they are in the ultrasonic cleaner getting a speed steep. Say I dripped .5 grams of nicotine, so what. Its still a lot more accurate than guessing at the little lines in the cylinders.

Cleanup when using a scale is take the one or two pipettes you used, rinse them out, your done. Flavors I use a lot I usually buy in 4 oz size. At times I will pour some in a 30 ml dripper bottle so I wont need to use pipettes but if it is a flavor I dont use often then I will use the pipettes.

If others want to use cylinders to mix, thats cool. The main thing is your mixing!!! I just find for myself it is a lot easier and faster and accurate to mix with a scale. It is kinda like how we smokes, and how we vape. It is all about personal preference.

yah - i will use syringes for small batch measuring, but the GC for my 480ml batches
 

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Everything I mix is max VG and I keep a 250 ml bottle with a dripper cap on it for mixing as well as a couple larger bottle on my mixing shelf. I tried the syringes a few times and had the same problem I had with the cylinders. Your recipe calls for 3.3 ml of this concentrate....ok....I have a 5 ml syringe....where in the hell is that .3 line...... Ya know. With weight I can just drip until I hit the amount I want.

I would use a 3ml syringe for that; draw in 3ml, empty that, then draw in .3ml; a 3ml syringe DOES have a .3 line.

Andria
 
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