Evic VTC mini now 75 watts w/ 1.2 upgrade :)

[CorallineAlgae]

The only other difference that I can tell is the airflow control. The tank will probably work exactly like the old one. If you have an eGo One tank try using a CLR head with a 26 gauge spaced SS coil in TC. It's quite nice. I just put a twisted 2x30 gauge 316 SS coil in mine earlier tonight. So far I'm loving twisted SS but I haven't tried to use it in temp control mode yet.

Edit to add: A SS twisted contact coil does not work in TC. At least mine sure didn't. It just threw the full 35w I had the mod set to and it showed 70° as the temperature.

 

[Zr0]

Whoa the VTC mini does TC with SS coils now? I've been playing around being this close to buying one. Now I'm going to buy three (for work, a beater, and a back)

 

[Myk]

The only other difference that I can tell is the airflow control. The tank will probably work exactly like the old one. If you have an eGo One tank try using a CLR head with a 26 gauge spaced SS coil in TC. It's quite nice. I just put a twisted 2x30 gauge 316 SS coil in mine earlier tonight. So far I'm loving twisted SS but I haven't tried to use it in temp control mode yet.

I was actually thinking of a recommendation for a newb. Was looking today and it looked like they redesigned it except for the problem coils or coil shield that ends up dumping a bunch if you didn't vape it dry first.
I doubt she gets into rebuilding and I didn't think the CLR's protank style build would do it for me and TC. I was thinking for a similar design I'd get a Delta II if I wanted to go that route, its rebuildable has screws.

How long are your batteries lasting? I have a brand new hg4 running a tgf4 mini Clapton coil at .35ohms and I'm getting like 135 puffs or 3minutes of use with the 2.0 update

Kanger SubTank Mini, .36Ω Ti, Samsung 25R green, 450° 60w, 210 puffs, 1515 seconds (25 minutes).

 

[Myk]

I guess Tron is top fill?

 

[VapingN252]

Just got mine with the smok TCT and I love it. Did the update. Great purchase

 

[VapingN252]

I just watched phil's review and I have to disagree. This is no DNA 200, but it works damn good. His test paint a good picture, but I'm strictly using ni200 for now. Works better than my GFs snow wolf

 

[IX of XIII]

I just watched phil's review and I have to disagree. This is no DNA 200, but it works damn good. His test paint a good picture, but I'm strictly using ni200 for now. Works better than my GFs snow wolf

he did say that overall that its a good device. i know that as well since i have two of them

 

[VapingN252]

Money is about to get tight for me is I'm glad I have a device I can ride out with. Just gotta buy a couple of hundred dollars worth of good budget juice now

 

[thatguy]

I did the v2.0 update the other day and just got some ss316.... Wrapped up dual 24g and put it temp control. I must say I am very impressed at how good this is! I think ss is the way to go! Is anyone running ss in regular power mode?

 

[Myk]

I got another with a TFV4 mini (looks good together). Mail was late so I didn't have time to build a TC coil. Using it with the stock RBA clapton, pretty impressive. First time I've used the VTC in power mode.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

I did the v2.0 update the other day and just got some ss316.... Wrapped up dual 24g and put it temp control. I must say I am very impressed at how good this is! I think ss is the way to go! Is anyone running ss in regular power mode?

I've run a bunch of SS builds in regular power mode but it runs a little hot for my tastes (I like cool vapes). It has a very nice clean flavor in any mode, but temp control is where it shines. For normal power vaping I still prefer twisted kanthal or UD Clapton wire over SS. That may change once I find the right build.

Stainless with temp control is so good that I ordered another VTC Mini. Gotta say, it doesn't hurt that the VTC also has the best wattage control out of all my mods. The true step down makes finding a cool vape with any coil a breeze.

 

[VapingN252]

When I updated, there was a v3. Maybe those updates corrected what Phil talked about?

 

[IX of XIII]

When I updated, there was a v3. Maybe those updates corrected what Phil talked about?

You might mean v1.3 that was released with v2. 1.3 gives the same SS TC feature as 2.0 but without the new UI. 2.1 should be the next update

 

[vuJim]

I did the v2.0 update the other day and just got some ss316.... Wrapped up dual 24g and put it temp control. I must say I am very impressed at how good this is! I think ss is the way to go! Is anyone running ss in regular power mode?

How many wraps, what diameter, what'd the resistance come out to be, and what temp are you runnin' it at, please?

I tried the .15Ω Ni coil that came installed in my GS-Tank and didn't much care for it. The 1.5Ω coil provided as much vapour and more taste, with less power consumption. I've got a Crius due tomorrow, and I think I'd like to eventually try SS on it.

 

[KGuardian]

I received my VTC Mini a few days ago.... think I'm going to order another one. I love this mod...

 

[VapnCloudz]

I was perfectly happy with the Evic before I upgraded the firmware. Still completely happy with it. I like the upgraded interface. I thought the firmware upgrade was only to up the watts. HAPPY MAN RIGHT HERE

 

[thatguy]

How many wraps, what diameter, what'd the resistance come out to be, and what temp are you runnin' it at, please?

I tried the .15Ω Ni coil that came installed in my GS-Tank and didn't much care for it. The 1.5Ω coil provided as much vapour and more taste, with less power consumption. I've got a Crius due tomorrow, and I think I'd like to eventually try SS on it.

I think it was 10 wraps, 3mm bit and comes in at .23 ohms wicked and juiced. I am running it at 55-60 watts and 440-500 degrees. Still kinda playing with the settings. I got a ni coil for my subtank mini but it always tasted like poo. So this is the first successful temp control vape I tried.

 

[Zr0]

I stopped in a shop today just to check one of these out, I'm really digging it. Feels so small in my hands!
Can't wait for mine to get delivered!

 

[BenJammin]

How many wraps, what diameter, what'd the resistance come out to be, and what temp are you runnin' it at, please?

I tried the .15Ω Ni coil that came installed in my GS-Tank and didn't much care for it. The 1.5Ω coil provided as much vapour and more taste, with less power consumption. I've got a Crius due tomorrow, and I think I'd like to eventually try SS on it.

I'm currently loving my SS build in my Subtank+... It's a 22g, 316L SS, 5 wrap, 3mm ID, contact coil coming in at .21 ohms. I'm running 30-35w at 440. LOVING THE FLAVOR!!!

 

[Myk]

I am now convinced those who are having the temperature protection problem with the VTC are having a user error problem.

Had a build I was messing around with trying to get wicking right that started doing that. I had to crank it up to 500°+ to get anything. Swapped tanks on another VTC, the problem followed the tank.
Rebuilt the coil, problem solved.

 

[BenJammin]

I am now convinced those who are having the temperature protection problem with the VTC are having a user error problem.

Had a build I was messing around with trying to get wicking right that started doing that. I had to crank it up to 500°+ to get anything. Swapped tanks on another VTC, the problem followed the tank.
Rebuilt the coil, problem solved.

I would have to agree... however, I had the "anemic Ti" problem before I upgraded... I don't remember what version it was at when that was happening (whatever it came with), but it didn't matter what coil or how many times I checked that coil, it would still jump to temp protect very very quickly... I did the upgrade and haven't had a problem since.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

I am now convinced those who are having the temperature protection problem with the VTC are having a user error problem.

Had a build I was messing around with trying to get wicking right that started doing that. I had to crank it up to 500°+ to get anything. Swapped tanks on another VTC, the problem followed the tank.
Rebuilt the coil, problem solved.

I think user errors are definitely the cause the majority of the problems, but a few people say they found solder issues when they took the mod apart. It seems like a tiny minority of persistent issues may be due to manufacturing. That can happen with any mod. Thankfully my VTC mini has been flawless. I just ordered another one. It's the best single 18650 mod around, but nothing can be manufactured flawlessly 100% of the time.

 

[Myk]

I would have to agree... however, I had the "anemic Ti" problem before I upgraded... I don't remember what version it was at when that was happening (whatever it came with), but it didn't matter what coil or how many times I checked that coil, it would still jump to temp protect very very quickly... I did the upgrade and haven't had a problem since.

I've only used Ti (except for eGo Mega, and Ni was better). V1.30 is the only one I didn't try.
Mine have needed a little more (like Pbusardo noted in his review video), 450° vs 400-420° on everything else but not like I had last night (500-550°).
Last night there was something wrong more than being slightly off.

Jumping to protection quickly is what TC is supposed to do based on how high you have the wattage/joules and what the air temperature is. That just means it has hit temperature. I think people are looking at the wrong thing (again making me lean towards user error). What are the watts and ohms saying, that's the important part.
It's just like D2 users new to TC freak out about the live reads on the ohms. It was when I saw people freaking out about the VTC change doing that that got me thinking user errors.

I do think VTC's temperature algorithm is set low on Ti comparing to my D2s live readings. I also think there's something screwy going on with the initial reading/lock in where they tried to make it too smart for its own good so you can't bump it up by preheating the coil to fix a cold coil issue.

And after watching Phil's video I'm thinking VTC lacks a good dry coil protection and it will keep on firing until it burns with some wire types (I forget which).

It seems like a tiny minority of persistent issues may be due to manufacturing. That can happen with any mod.

Yep, always leave room for that. I've wondered if a bad solder joint isn't the problem with my Sig75wTC since the first one I tried.

 

[BenJammin]

I've only used Ti (except for eGo Mega, and Ni was better). V1.30 is the only one I didn't try.
Mine have needed a little more (like Pbusardo noted in his review video), 450° vs 400-420° on everything else but not like I had last night (500-550°).
Last night there was something wrong more than being slightly off.

Jumping to protection quickly is what TC is supposed to do based on how high you have the wattage/joules and what the air temperature is. That just means it has hit temperature. I think people are looking at the wrong thing (again making me lean towards user error). What are the watts and ohms saying, that's the important part.
It's just like D2 users new to TC freak out about the live reads on the ohms. It was when I saw people freaking out about the VTC change doing that that got me thinking user errors.

I do think VTC's temperature algorithm is set low on Ti comparing to my D2s live readings. I also think there's something screwy going on with the initial reading/lock in where they tried to make it too smart for its own good so you can't bump it up by preheating the coil to fix a cold coil issue.

And after watching Phil's video I'm thinking VTC lacks a good dry coil protection and it will keep on firing until it burns with some wire types (I forget which).


Yep, always leave room for that. I've wondered if a bad solder joint isn't the problem with my Sig75wTC since the first one I tried.

Now obviously I'm not saying it wasn't user error on my part, I'm just saying that if it was, it was a giant coincidence that all of a sudden I could build a coil correctly. For some reason version 1.06 sticks in my head as to what version I was using when this happened (again, idr exactly)... But what was happening, I was building a Ti coil around .2 ohms (same build I always used on my D2) and moved the temp up and down as well as the watts up and down trying to get it to produce any vapor at all instead of jumping straight to temp protect mode. I understand temp and watts can vary from mod to mod and coil to coil as well as that if your watts are set to high it can throw off the tc and wack it all out. So anyways, tried all temps and watts, then finally unlocked the resistance, unscrewed atty, clicked fire button, screwed back in, locked in the new resistance (a couple of hundredths higher than before), and vape away... minus a little bit of burnt taste, this method worked just fine. Until the mod set for a while, I'd pick it back up and the original resistance would be locked in and it would jump right back into temp protect...

I finally got around to updating the firmware and I haven't had a single problem with my VTC since... Again, I'm not saying it wasn't user error, I'm just saying that if it was, it would be a huge coincidence...

 

[Myk]

Now obviously I'm not saying it wasn't user error on my part, I'm just saying that if it was, it was a giant coincidence that all of a sudden I could build a coil correctly. For some reason version 1.06 sticks in my head as to what version I was using when this happened (again, idr exactly)... But what was happening, I was building a Ti coil around .2 ohms (same build I always used on my D2) and moved the temp up and down as well as the watts up and down trying to get it to produce any vapor at all instead of jumping straight to temp protect mode. I understand temp and watts can vary from mod to mod and coil to coil as well as that if your watts are set to high it can throw off the tc and wack it all out. So anyways, tried all temps and watts, then finally unlocked the resistance, unscrewed atty, clicked fire button, screwed back in, locked in the new resistance (a couple of hundredths higher than before), and vape away... minus a little bit of burnt taste, this method worked just fine. Until the mod set for a while, I'd pick it back up and the original resistance would be locked in and it would jump right back into temp protect...

I finally got around to updating the firmware and I haven't had a single problem with my VTC since... Again, I'm not saying it wasn't user error, I'm just saying that if it was, it would be a huge coincidence...

That's about how my gennie building went. Couldn't do it, couldn't do it, suddenly I could do it. I couldn't tell you what was different.

I definitely think there is something with how lock in is handled. I'm having that right now with 2.0 and a new TFV4mini. Even had it read atty too low when nothing had changed other than I took the tank off. But that's seeming to be related to the tank getting along with the mod since I don't think I changed the tank back to the new mod (nope, I haven't).
I even considered it being the sammy 25R blue vs green batteries but the new mod with my old SubTank is working just like the old mod was. It's the new tank that seems to have the issues if I look at it wrong (still can't figure out what happened to the coil while I was wicking it that made it suddenly get no heat but a new coil fixed it).

I don't blame people at all for not rushing out to buy a 2nd mod of the one that's not working for them though.
I won't be giving Sigelei another chance and I have no doubt the people that love theirs have working models, I even question if mine isn't a user error problem.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

I was building a Ti coil around .2 ohms (same build I always used on my D2) and moved the temp up and down as well as the watts up and down trying to get it to produce any vapor at all instead of jumping straight to temp protect mode. I understand temp and watts can vary from mod to mod and coil to coil as well as that if your watts are set to high it can throw off the tc and wack it all out. So anyways, tried all temps and watts, then finally unlocked the resistance, unscrewed atty, clicked fire button, screwed back in, locked in the new resistance (a couple of hundredths higher than before), and vape away... minus a little bit of burnt taste, this method worked just fine. Until the mod set for a while, I'd pick it back up and the original resistance would be locked in and it would jump right back into temp protect...

This happened to me a couple of times using SS coils in Ti mode before the latest update. I can definitely confirm this.

I finally got around to updating the firmware and I haven't had a single problem with my VTC since...

Same here. The update seems to have pretty much solved it, although I don't generally lock in the ohms completely cold anymore. I check the ohms, vape a bit, and if I see the ohms jump by 2-3 hundredths I lock in the resistance.

 

[Myk]

I check the ohms, vape a bit, and if I see the ohms jump by 2-3 hundredths I lock in the resistance.

I go by length of wire I used. But I'm not sure even with 1.20 locking actually locks. I've had it drop after it was locked.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

I go by length of wire I used. But I'm not sure even with 1.20 locking actually locks. I've had it drop after it was locked.

I had the same thing happen with 1.20 and 1.30, but 2.00 seems to keep the ohms locked in perfectly. I prefer the original screen layout, but the 2,00 upgrade has worked best for me, by far. There isn't supposed to be any difference between 1.30 & 2.00 other than the screen layout, but I've had much more consistent ohm settings with 2.00. You may want to give that firmware a shot. I'd love to find out if it works as well for you as it has for me.

 

[Myk]

Both of mine are 2.00.
Maybe I should try reflashing it on the new one. Or maybe step up through some of the earlier ones on the new one.

It may have been a tank or wire issue. I haven't seen it since the new coil (which is now on the old mod). It just didn't hold the locked resistance like a D2 would.

 

[Mazam]

Efuntop.Us Update:

Well the shipping label was FINALLY created last night and it will ship out today.
"Supposedly "

That's 5 DAYS it took them to move this device from their U.S. Warehouse shelf to their shipping door! Thats ridiculous!! And "Andy" here, NEVER returned my PM!
So yeah... my initial assessment of this site I feel is correct.
SHADY! VERY SHADY!

And what do you bet when I finally received this thing a full week and a half/two weeks after I ordered it, that something is screwed up with it, hmmm?
Because at this point, that won't surprise me one bit!

So...
for all you guys wanting to save a $10 by ordering from this place,
Just know you're gonna WAIT for it! ( U.S. warehouse or not)


(But thanks to you guys for trying to help me out with everything.
Its not your fault these people are the way they are.
And obviously no hard feelings here. )

Man, i wish i read all this before i made my order there earlier in the week.

I really gotta stop falling for the "US WAREHOUSE!" bit. Guessing it'll end up being a coin flip race with the fasttech package i ordered the same day.

 

[Nancy_Bout]

Love it more now w the update awesome and Tc is beautiful on this thing


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[Zr0]

Got mine today, and I love the little bastard. One gripe however is EFUN sent me a Cyan one and not the white one I ordered. I'm a little pissy about that but it works flawlessly and honestly the color is growing on me.

It's comparable to my SMOK m65 in size but feels smaller in the hand. I'm guessing due to the rounded edges. I've got large hands but it's damn comfortable to hold and fire. Battery door is perfect, snaps on off no play and I'm not worried about about getting the battery out in hurry, so fast and easy. Fire button is large enough and the indent around it makes it easy to find even while drunk. I do have a little concern about how well the fire button will hold up over time, but we'll see. Buttons are proper clicky though.

My KSTnano fits just about perfectly flush on it, works well. I tried out my Crown in SSTC for the first time, must say that was interesting. I'll have to play witht that some more before I really decide whether I like it or not. Must say I'm not a fan of the round-robin wattage adjustment in temp mode.

Forgive the noobish question...but what's the point/effect of locking in the resistance? I'm guessing consistency as the coil heats up and resistance increases, but anythng else?

 

[CorallineAlgae]

A very astute person on another forum noticed that the 510 pin on his VTC is deeper than it is on other mods. I think he's right. I have to make sure that my Crown tank is screwed on pretty tight for it to work properly in TC mode. If any of you are getting a weak vape in TC mode, either extend the 510 pin on the bottom of your atomizer (if it's adjustable) or try screwing the atty down snug to the mod. Simply doing that has worked 100% of the time for my Crown/VTC combo.

 

[Markw4mms]

I just ordered a pair of these from efun.top today (Cyan for my G/F and Black for me). I hope they ship out in a timely manner said they were in stock from the US warehouse. Anyway, the price was right, and have other mods to enjoy until they arrive, but G/F is itching to have a TC mod finally. Mine will be back up / side kick to my IPV3Li.

 

[Zr0]

A very astute person on another forum noticed that the 510 pin on his VTC is deeper than it is on other mods. I think he's right. I have to make sure that my Crown tank is screwed on pretty tight for it to work properly in TC mode. If any of you are getting a weak vape in TC mode, either extend the 510 pin on the bottom of your atomizer (if it's adjustable) or try screwing the atty down snug to the mod. Simply doing that has worked 100% of the time for my Crown/VTC combo.

I haven't noticed anything, my Crown works perfectly fine on the VTC so far and I only tried it on there for SSTC. Perhaps manufacturing variance?

 

[CorallineAlgae]

I haven't noticed anything, my Crown works perfectly fine on the VTC so far and I only tried it on there for SSTC. Perhaps manufacturing variance?

That could definitely be it. I have a v1 hardware model but I have no idea if different versions use different 510 connectors. Could also be just normal variance. I kinda suspected that it might have something to do with both me and the other guy always screwing our tanks on very gently.

Still, some attys have short 510s with no adjustable pin, and if the mods 510 connection is deeper than normal, then it's a design problem. We can't be sure about it yet. I'm just glad that all of my tanks work beautifully with SS coils in temp mode.

 

[Mazam]

I just ordered a pair of these from efun.top today (Cyan for my G/F and Black for me). I hope they ship out in a timely manner said they were in stock from the US warehouse. Anyway, the price was right, and have other mods to enjoy until they arrive, but G/F is itching to have a TC mod finally. Mine will be back up / side kick to my IPV3Li.

Rule of thumb with china's "US Warehouses" is the understanding that being just a small storage room, with one guy in charge of packing up and sending out orders...nothing is going to get done in a timely manner. That essentially is the trade off of going the cheap route. Generally speaking, customer service is the first thing that goes out their window in the name of keeping costs low

That said I got mine physically shipped out from there on day 4 (which is actually pretty good from them). Granted i'm not too proud to admit that the hell I gave to a CS rep once their stated max 48 hour processing time had passed with no update probably let that happen before the weekend closed. But hey, my IPV d2 had just predictably broke a week after the warranty expired (seriously, that's 3 of their products now for me. never again with IPV), leaving me down to one box. Desperate times desperate measures and all that jazz.

 

[Zr0]

That could definitely be it. I have a v1 hardware model but I have no idea if different versions use different 515 connectors. Could also be just normal variance. I kinda suspected that it might have something to do with both me and the other guy always screwing our tanks on very gently.

Still, some attys have short 510s with no adjustable pin, and if the mods 510 connection is deeper than normal, then it's a design problem. We can't be sure about it yet. I'm just glad that all of my tanks work beautifully with SS coils in temp mode.

There's two versions of the Crown tank? Didn't know that...what's the difference?

On a sidenote: Magnets in the vtc are strong enough that I can snap it to my fridge (though I wouldn't leave it there...)

 

[Markw4mms]

Rule of thumb with china's "US Warehouses" is the understanding that being just a small storage room, with one guy in charge of packing up and sending out orders...nothing is going to get done in a timely manner. That essentially is the trade off of going the cheap route. Generally speaking, customer service is the first thing that goes out their window in the name of keeping costs low

That said I got mine physically shipped out from there on day 4 (which is actually pretty good from them). Granted i'm not too proud to admit that the hell I gave to a CS rep once their stated max 48 hour processing time had passed with no update probably let that happen before the weekend closed. But hey, my IPV d2 had just predictably broke a week after the warranty expired (seriously, that's 3 of their products now for me. never again with IPV), leaving me down to one box. Desperate times desperate measures and all that jazz.

Wow, sorry to hear that you've had problems with your IPV stuff. I have an IPV3LI and it has been flawless.

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[gtrtech]

There's two versions of the Crown tank? Didn't know that...what's the difference?

https://www.fasttech.com/forums/3410300/t/1833532/fasttech-uwell-crown-v1-or-v2-improved-version/1

 

[Nancy_Bout]

I'm using my cyan (love that color lol) w the crown = on TC is it hits so strong Vs the evicVT I don't get why or how but it does... I lower the temp.... EvixVT I'm at 570-580 and mini 550 and it just made me love my TC on the crown now!


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[StanM]

Waiting for my vtc to ship from 3fvape.

There's two versions of the Crown tank? Didn't know that...what's the difference?

On a sidenote: Magnets in the vtc are strong enough that I can snap it to my fridge (though I wouldn't leave it there...)

Early versions of the crown had a loose drip tip and slightly restricted air flow.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

There's two versions of the Crown tank? Didn't know that...what's the difference?

No no. There is only one version of the authentic Crown tank (as far as I know). I was referring to different hardware versions of the VTC Mini. I'm not sure if the 510 connector is the same for all the versions or not, but some people have reported solder problems with their VTC 510 connector on the other forum.

 

[CorallineAlgae]

It's both.
I thought you were referring to the VTC h/w version, but followed the FT forum link and yes, there was a revision of the Crown. DT sizing and AFC, as said above.

°o°
I never knew that. Thanks for the clarification Jim. I have the black Crown so it's a v2. The original post asking about the v2 Crown was a comment directed at me where I was talking about hardware versions, but I didn't specify that I was talking about the VTC Mini and not the Crown. Glad it got confusing or I wouldn't have learned about the two versions of he tank.

 

[IX of XIII]

Just picked up my third one!!!!

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[PuffPuffPass]

I just applied the Firmware update to ONE of my Mini's. Not so sure I want to try both at the same time.

So far, I've had to reduce the wattage (-4) in power mode. There was a complete loss of flavor at the setting I was using before the update. And that was totally unexpected. I haven't checked the TC mod yet. So a verdict it still out.

But every cloud has it's silver lining. Less wattage translates to longer battery life.
I'm holding out on updating the second unit for a bit.

 

[vuJim]

I just applied the Firmware update to ONE of my Mini's. Not so sure I want to try both at the same time.

So far, I've had to reduce the wattage (-4) in power mode. There was a complete loss of flavor at the setting I was using before the update.

Ha! So I wasn't imagining it and it wasn't only me. I didn't notice a big loss of flavour, it just got too hot, too fast.

 

[PuffPuffPass]

Ha! So I wasn't imagining it and it wasn't only me. I didn't notice a big loss of flavour, it just got too hot, too fast.

I wouldn't call immediately "Too Fast" lol

But yes, I had to dial mine back 4 watts in Power Mode to recover the flavor. In TC, it ramps up pretty fast also.

I am liking the improvements they've made though. We're no longer locked in at 30 watts minimum for TC mode. We can go lower.

 

[VapingN252]

So now I'm questioning why I brought the TCT tank. I just tried the tank the came with it. The Ti coil. That thing has kick like a punt. 550 at 45 joules is wonderful to me. I'm a nickel lover, but this is about to convert me.

 

[Virol]

well this just came on the mail today my First Evic VTC Mini, the Ni coil hits like a bull the first times XD!!!, and the flavor was better than the mini protank 3 that i have, pretty happy with it, at home i have my Aris, ill try it with it later