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LOOTING ur own country is there.
Ummmmmmm and ummm LOOTING ur own country yes!


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giving themselves tax cuts.
and blame the rising debt on Obama.

we are still paying for Bush's war based on Words of Mass Deception.
A couple trillion, thousands dead and 10's of thousands wounded and what did we accomplish?
and that is not counting the dead Afghans and Iraqi innocent bystanders.

ohh we ended terrorism?
Peace in Afganistan and Iraq?
 
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American Taliban is alive and well in New Orleans. Currently removing historic monuments.
 

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Huh?

I suspect false la labeling of those who disagree with you is at work.
I suspect the Buddhist disagreed when the Taliban blew up that historical monument.
Taking down a historical monument won't change history.
Furthermore, when history is forgotten it is often repeated.
 

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LOL American Taliban....

I will never understand humans penchant for monuments to failure....
Alamo, The Arizona, 911, etc...
 

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I suspect the Buddhist disagreed when the Taliban blew up that historical monument.
Taking down a historical monument won't change history.
Furthermore, when history is forgotten it is often repeated.
Most people cannot remember the facts from one election to the next.

yes when people forget the slavery, women with no rights, etc it will be back in another form.
 

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We had a lot of family that died in that war. We still live on the same land that's been in the family since 1794. To us it was never political, we were invaded by northern aggression and just protecting our land and kin.
 

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We had a lot of family that died in that war. We still live on the same land that's been in the family since 1794. To us it was never political, we were invaded by northern aggression and just protecting our land and kin.
And you take pride in keeping your hatred alive?

The past Tempts us.
The present confuses us.
The future frightens us.
 

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And you take pride in keeping your hatred alive?

The past Tempts us.
The present confuses us.
The future frightens us.
LMFAO! Come on Cromwell, you're better than that ignorant statement. I don't have any hatred for anyone.
 

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The real hypocrisy is that their father fucked over more minorities in NOLA than the entire state before, during or after the war of northern aggression.
 

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LMFAO! Come on Cromwell, you're better than that ignorant statement. I don't have any hatred for anyone.
Hatred may have been used by me in error.
Apologies.
And yet you fixate on things in the past?

I have lost family and friends in every war since I have been here on earth.
That does not make me want to fixate on those facts though.

Humans do seem to need idols and monuments though.
 

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The real hypocrisy is that their father fucked over more minorities in NOLA than the entire state before, during or after the war of northern aggression.

But most people don't know that obviously...
a lot of people don't!! My folks are from LA, saint Martinsville 2 hours away from NOLA...
man when I saw where my dad grew up, I was like
WTF!!! People really live here!! Dfuck


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Hatred may have been used by me in error.
Apologies.
And yet you fixate on things in the past?

I have lost family and friends in every war since I have been here on earth.
That does not make me want to fixate on those facts though.

Humans do seem to need idols and monuments though.
No one is or was fixated on it. That's why they are being torn down. It's just a shame that the memory of those that died will not have a visual reminder.
They will never be forgotten though.
 

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No one is or was fixated on it. That's why they are being torn down. It's just a shame that the memory of those that died will not have a visual reminder.
They will never be forgotten though.
A red state with a liberal mindset...
Hypocrites


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Knowing and remembering history does not equate with fixation.
Have you heard anything about the national park in Vicksburg? Of course not because it didn't make the headlines. They shut down the entire southern side of it. Just like it never even happened.
 

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American Taliban is alive and well in New Orleans. Currently removing historic monuments.
I saw that crap last night!
Fucking dumbasses!!!!
You know, I grew up less than 5 minutes from Jackson square and the French quarter and it utterly pisses me off!
I went to the cabildo and the museum's pretty often as a kid. I'm glad I went back to down their shortly before I moved and took my fiance. Thankfully she got to see it all before it became robbed of it's history. The history can certainly be argued to be not pleasant. However, to remove the reminders and leave generations to come without seeing it is beyond stupid! I doubt you'll find a single person living who would say they are proud of everything that has happened in our country's history. But it happened. Not to mention, Jackson and Lee may have done some bastard things, but to forget their accomplishments and remove a major part of the identity of an entire city is beyond Stoopid.

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LoL ya. His sister was the liberal screamer from here. Mary Landrieu
She is a wretched bitch!!!!
My mother went to school with that woman (term used very generously)

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And you take pride in keeping your hatred alive?

The past Tempts us.
The present confuses us.
The future frightens us.
It has nothing to do with hatred.
Look at the pic in my last post.

That's Jackson square, a site with concerts, weddings, picnics allamor of get togethers.

Removing that monument removes a huge part of the identity of that place.
I spent a lot of time there as a child watching bands and having parties- so many memories.

History sucks, but it happened. Did these people do some shitty things-yes
But that doesn't deny the character or the history that it gave to an entire region. All of our nation's forefathers were bastards in some ways. We shouldn't forget that one of them wrote the Constitution and another led our militias to conquer the largest military in the world at the time.

History should be remembered. To remove history is to forget history. To forget history is to repeat it.


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I'm having a VERY hard time not ordering a copper goon to match that subzero. I have a goon in the box but it's black. MFS has them on sale for $50 right now.
 

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It's 5 o'clock in Kentucky...
No, I mean is he really saying that they should go?

If that's the case, than so should Washington monument, Mount Rushmore and several others.

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I'm having a VERY hard time not ordering a copper goon to match that subzero. I have a goon in the box but it's black. MFS has them on sale for $50 right now.
I can't handle copper attys.
If it helps though, what if the two coppers are different shades?
You know, some are darker than others

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No, I mean is he really saying that they should go?

If that's the case, than so should Washington monument, Mount Rushmore and several others.

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Ummm. Especially the Vietnam wall. Pretty sure we lost that "war"
 

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Trump needs to try his jerky handshake on Ahnuld or someone who would just jerk Trump on his face.
Childish power games....
What would be worse though?
Him or Pence?

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I would put pence and bin Laden on the same page. Both radical extremists.
 
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