HCIGAR VT133/VT167 Dual 18650 DNA200/250

[SirRichardRear]

I got VT167 (Black and White version) last week. The cover is made out of something like rubber with non slip grip texture.

It looks something like this, with smaller texture and different color.

Oh, any recommendation on Set Value for desired temperature to get sweet spot?

Hcigar makes some pretty good quality shit for a china company IMO.
I passed on this Vt167 though cause i have the 133 and wanted something different. So i ordered the Finder167

 

[Nevweezy]

It looks like there are 2 colors available. Gray frame with a black cover

And Black frame with a Black and White cover

I'm not sure what the covers are made out of.

Cheers,
Steve

Oh ok. I swear though that I seen a review that was black body and black carbon fiber. I'll try and find it. So I know exactly what reviewer it was.

Edit: it was Mike Vapes.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I got VT167 (Black and White version) last week. The cover is made out of something like rubber with non slip grip texture.

It looks something like this, with smaller texture and different color.

Oh, any recommendation on Set Value for desired temperature to get sweet spot?

I'm not sure if your asking what temperature I set mine to, but I think that's what your asking. I use mainly Aromamizer Supremes (25mm, dual velocity style deck). I normally use 28ga SS430, 7 wraps, 2.5mm ID, 30 watts (60w preheat (1 second, 5 punch) at 420F.

Here's my case thermals and mod resistance for the VT133:


Cheers,
Steve

 

[luckymew]

I'm not sure if your asking what temperature I set mine to, but I think that's what your asking. I use mainly Aromamizer Supremes (25mm, dual velocity style deck). I normally use 28ga SS430, 7 wraps, 2.5mm ID, 30 watts (60w preheat (1 second, 5 punch) at 420F.

Cheers,
Steve

Thank you, Steve. Yes, I mean that 420F.
When I use 420F, it produce cold vapor. So I increase it until 480-500F on my Goon 22mm (SS430, 27, 8 wraps, 3mm, dual coil, around 0.32ohm). Is it normal?

What is safe temperature for SS430? And, do you ever try Titanium wire? Is it better than SS430?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Thank you, Steve. Yes, I mean that 420F.
When I use 420F, it produce cold vapor. So I increase it until 480-500F on my Goon 22mm (SS430, 27, 8 wraps, 3mm, dual coil, around 0.32ohm). Is it normal?

What is safe temperature for SS430? And, do you ever try Titanium wire? Is it better than SS430?

Where did you get your SS430 from? I'm asking because I get mine from Unkamen:
http://www.creatingunkamen.com/prod...e-nickel-free-introductory-sale-100-guarantee

I tried some from Crazy Wire and the TCR was way off. I use the curve from Steam Engine with the Unk and it works like a charm (TCR is .00138).

There is nothing wrong with going up to 500F. It could just be you prefer a hotter vape than I do.

PS With the CW SS430, I had to adjust my TCR to .00175-.002 to get comparable results.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[luckymew]

Ye

Where did you get your SS430 from? I'm asking because I get mine from Unkamen:
http://www.creatingunkamen.com/prod...e-nickel-free-introductory-sale-100-guarantee

I tried some from Crazy Wire and the TCR was way off. I use the curve from Steam Engine with the Unk and it works like a charm (TCR is .00138).

There is nothing wrong with going up to 500F. It could just be you prefer a hotter vape than I do.

PS With the CW SS430, I had to adjust my TCR to .00175-.002 to get comparable results.

Cheers,
Steve

Yeah, I got it from Crazy Wire UK. I use TCR .00138, but I don't have another 430 wire to compare. I'll try .00175 and see how it goes.

I try Crazy Wire because it came from the factory, or I guess it is. It stated for vaping wire. The Unkamen is originally jewellery accessories, right? I'll order some later.

And, do you dry burned SS430 before using it?

 

[SirRichardRear]

Ye


Yeah, I got it from Crazy Wire UK. I use TCR .00138, but I don't have another 430 wire to compare. I'll try .00175 and see how it goes.

I try Crazy Wire because it came from the factory, or I guess it is. It stated for vaping wire. The Unkamen is originally jewellery accessories, right? I'll order some later.

And, do you dry burned SS430 before using it?

Not a fan of crazy wire. Get some ss430 clapton wire from advanced vape supply. It's amazing

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[ShowerHead]

Yeah, I got it from Crazy Wire UK. I use TCR .00138, but I don't have another 430 wire to compare. I'll try .00175 and see how it goes.

That should get you close, if not, let me know and I'll find what I used for it.
The Unkamen 430 is spot on and excellent wire.
You can dry burn it, or just wipe it down with alcohol first.

Me and Crazy Wire have decided to part ways. Me because I like to receive what I purchase. Them because I have received 3 separate wire types from them and only one was correct as far as TCR. SS430 wasn't, SS316L wasn't, NiFe52 was.

 

[luckymew]

That should get you close, if not, let me know and I'll find what I used for it.
The Unkamen 430 is spot on and excellent wire.
You can dry burn it, or just wipe it down with alcohol first.

Me and Crazy Wire have decided to part ways. Me because I like to receive what I purchase. Them because I have received 3 separate wire types from them and only one was correct as far as TCR. SS430 wasn't, SS316L wasn't, NiFe52 was.

I don't know how to calculate the TCR for my wire is correct or not. Can you show me how to measure you got the correct TCR for your wire?

I just try it, with .00138 TCR I've to set the temperature up until around 480F, with .00175 I just set it to 410F to get the same warm vapor.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I don't know how to calculate the TCR for my wire is correct or not. Can you show me how to measure you got the correct TCR for your wire?

I just try it, with .00138 TCR I've to set the temperature up until around 480F, with .00175 I just set it to 410F to get the same warm vapor.

Well I went by feel/taste. I know what 420F should feel/taste like with all my other wire including UNK SS430. I knew the CW SS430 at 420 was too cool so I raised my TCR until it seemed about right.

I gently dry burn mine by pulsing the coils until they just start to glow.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Deucesjack]

http://vape.deals/hcigar-vt167-167w...ail&utm_term=0_51889d0d68-a0a37212f7-55559177

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[ShowerHead]

I don't know how to calculate the TCR for my wire is correct or not. Can you show me how to measure you got the correct TCR for your wire?

I just try it, with .00138 TCR I've to set the temperature up until around 480F, with .00175 I just set it to 410F to get the same warm vapor.

That's the best method for that wire, try it and adjust the TCR value. Sounds like you have it nailed or close to it.
Be sure to send a thank you note to the CW folks for giving you a learning opportunity.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Just a heads up. GB has the Gray VT167 on a Flash sale for $92.30 and the Black for ~$90. Personally, I prefer the Gray.
http://www.gearbest.com/temperature-control-mods/pp_587743.html

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Saratoga Joe]

$90...from the US....Free Shipping

https://ecig-city.com/products/hcig...ail&utm_source=newsletter&variant=28129139331

 

[Wingsfan0310]

$90...from the US....Free Shipping

https://ecig-city.com/products/hcigar-vt167-167w-tc-box-mod?utm_campaign=Copy+of%3A+DEC+7th_584a6824597ed778966c7a82&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&variant=28129139331

I mainly posted it for people that want the model with the Gray frame with Black cover (and for people not in the USA). That one isn't available yet from ecig-city.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[SirRichardRear]

I mainly posted it for people that want the model with the Gray frame with Black cover (and for people not in the USA). That one isn't available yet from ecig-city.

Cheers,
Steve

so when the new 167 mods come in, are we gonna keep using this thread or make a new one lol
which ones did you order? i wouldn't mind borrowing a file if you got a finder 167. if not I'll just make my own lol

 

[Wingsfan0310]

so when the new 167 mods come in, are we gonna keep using this thread or make a new one lol
which ones did you order? i wouldn't mind borrowing a file if you got a finder 167. if not I'll just make my own lol

I think I'll edit the title to include the VT167 along with the VT133. I haven't ordered a VT167 yet.

I did order the GM with Brown/Red Croc from FT. It's on the way but hasn't arrived yet. I'll post that file when I get it.

PS If people want a separate thread for the VT167, that's cool with me. Whatever people think is better.

PSS So far I like the Gray with the Black cover best.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[SirRichardRear]

I think I'll edit the title to include the VT167 along with the VT133. I haven't ordered a VT167 yet.

I did order the GM with Brown/Red Croc from FT. It's on the way but hasn't arrived yet. I'll post that file when I get it.

PS If people want a separate thread for the VT167, that's cool with me. Whatever people think is better.

Cheers,
Steve

whats the Gunmetal? the finder? cause thats what i got. or did you get the therion?

 

[Wingsfan0310]

whats the Gunmetal? the finder? cause thats what i got. or did you get the therion?

I bought the Finder167. They call it Black, but it looks like Gun Metal to me from the pictures.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[SirRichardRear]

I bought the Finder167. They call it Black, but it looks like Gun Metal to me from the pictures.

Cheers,
Steve

same one i got then. cool.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

same one i got then. cool.

That exact one but it still hasn't hit the USA according to USPS tacking. It's not a big deal because most of the time it doesn't update until after it's through Customs in Chicago. I hope it comes soon but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[SirRichardRear]

That exact one but it still hasn't hit the USA according to USPS tacking. It's not a big deal because most of the time it doesn't update until after it's through Customs in Chicago. I hope it comes soon but I'm not holding my breath.
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It was too pretty to pass up

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[nightshard]

Thank you, Steve. Yes, I mean that 420F.
When I use 420F, it produce cold vapor. So I increase it until 480-500F on my Goon 22mm (SS430, 27, 8 wraps, 3mm, dual coil, around 0.32ohm). Is it normal?

What is safe temperature for SS430? And, do you ever try Titanium wire? Is it better than SS430?

The way I see it the temp needs to be set as low as it can be and as high as it needs to be.

People use all sorts of SS in VW too without problems and even setting your temp to the max would be considered safer then that.
I wouldn't do the same with Ti or Ni200, in fact I would use them at all.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Check your tracking if u ordered a finder. Mine arrived in LA is morning. Should have it Tuesday or Wednesday

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[lotsaglocks]

I was wondering if anyone has tried to put the 167 battery door on a 133. I like the black carbon fiber one and would replace the beat up one on my silver 133.

Sorry if this was already asked and I missed it.

 

[Saratoga Joe]

Sale at Vape NW

https://vapenw.com/holiday-sale-2016?mc_cid=5c908932d4&mc_eid=56ff0d16ac

Code - HOLIDAY20

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Check your tracking if u ordered a finder. Mine arrived in LA is morning. Should have it Tuesday or Wednesday

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Mine should be here tomorrow if the 7-10" of snow they are now saying we're going to get doesn't slow it down. It's only about 15 minutes away from me.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Eskie]

Mine should be here tomorrow if the 7-10" of snow they are now saying we're going to get doesn't slow it down. It's only about 15 minutes away from me.

Cheers,
Steve

If it's only 15 minutes away, can't you just shovel your way to the post office?

Pics whenever it arrives!

 

[Wingsfan0310]

If it's only 15 minutes away, can't you just shovel your way to the post office?

Pics whenever it arrives!

The Finder 167 arrived today (my compliments to USPS). I posted some pictures in the Finder thread if anyone is interested. I think it's a top rate mod and looks great as well.
Think Vape Finder DNA75/200/250 (75, 133, 167 watts) Dual 18650

Cheers,
Steve

 

[luckymew]

Quick question. Is there any manual or tutorial how to do case analyzer properly? Is it done with or without atty? Thanks.

 

[~Don~]

Quick question. Is there any manual or tutorial how to do case analyzer properly? Is it done with or without atty? Thanks.

https://downloads.evolvapor.com/escribe/guide/story.html


Basically just have 1/4-1/2 charged batteries, plug in, set ambient temp, hit start walk away for up to 4 hours

 

[crompers]

Having a nightmare, not sure how many of you are from the UK or have experience with Yodel as a delivery service.

Well they are terrible, and the driver has dropped by vt167 into the porch of the house opposite mine rather than just deliver it to me.

The guy across the road appears to have gone away, so I can literally see the package (with my name printed on it) but I cant get to it as the door is locked.

 

[ShowerHead]

Having a nightmare, not sure how many of you are from the UK or have experience with Yodel as a delivery service.

Well they are terrible, and the driver has dropped by vt167 into the porch of the house opposite mine rather than just deliver it to me.

The guy across the road appears to have gone away, so I can literally see the package (with my name printed on it) but I cant get to it as the door is locked.

They sound like the UK equivalent of FedEx who conveniently delivered my new mobile phone to a random house in the neighborhood.
Luckily, I have nice neighbors, and later that day they brought my package to me.
I feel for you, at least I didn't have to look at the package.

 

[Lowfibass]

New VT 167 owner here.
Having a problem with my SE1 with .5 coils.
Keep getting ohms to high error.
Only happens with this tank.
They are SS coils. Will get this error in wattage or tc mode.
Even with locked resistance in tc it will give that error.
In wattage mode I can make the error stop by dropping the wattage.
Seems anything below 60 watts will do the trick.
Anyone have any advice? Is it a setting? A bug?

 

[SirRichardRear]

New VT 167 owner here.
Having a problem with my SE1 with .5 coils.
Keep getting ohms to high error.
Only happens with this tank.
They are SS coils. Will get this error in wattage or tc mode.
Even with locked resistance in tc it will give that error.
In wattage mode I can make the error stop by dropping the wattage.
Seems anything below 60 watts will do the trick.
Anyone have any advice? Is it a setting? A bug?

sounds like a coil issue. did you try replacing the coil? Uwell coils are known to be hit or miss

 

[Wingsfan0310]

New VT 167 owner here.
Having a problem with my SE1 with .5 coils.
Keep getting ohms to high error.
Only happens with this tank.
They are SS coils. Will get this error in wattage or tc mode.
Even with locked resistance in tc it will give that error.
In wattage mode I can make the error stop by dropping the wattage.
Seems anything below 60 watts will do the trick.
Anyone have any advice? Is it a setting? A bug?

The VT133 (DNA200 when using only 2 cells) had a top voltage of 6v output. So with a .5 ohm coil, the maximum power would be 72 watts (V^2 / R (ohms) = Power). If the coil with the atty resistance is higher, the power output would be lower. I believe what that error is telling you is the ohms are too high to be able to deliver the power you are dialing up. If you want more power, you need to build lower. The DNA200 had a 9v max output in it's 3 cell configuration.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Lowfibass]

Thanks for your quick response guys.
I didnt try a new coil as I had just put this one in.
I was only running it at 65 watts max. I think max for that coil is 70 watts,
I guess thats a bit disappointing as I didnt have any trouble/errors with that
tank/coils with other mods.
Hohmwrecker g2, ruleaux, alien, etc.
Same batteries, etc.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Thanks for your quick response guys.
I didnt try a new coil as I had just put this one in.
I was only running it at 65 watts max. I think max for that coil is 70 watts,
I guess thats a bit disappointing as I didnt have any trouble/errors with that
tank/coils with other mods.
Hohmwrecker g2, ruleaux, alien, etc.
Same batteries, etc.

those mods have a higher volt limit. I think wingsfan gave you the correct answer. you reached your volt limit. the G2 is 7.5v. I'm not sure on the other ones.

 

[Lowfibass]

Gotcha. Thanks again all.
Disappointing.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Gotcha. Thanks again all.
Disappointing.

it's a great mod. my builds are usually between .1 ohm and .3 ohm. never had an issue with it personally. I can understand what you mean though

 

[BoostAddict]

If your using a Crown tank, make sure the 510 pin is making good contact with that coil. Remove the tank and press the 510 pin in just to make sure

 

[Lowfibass]

Yeah, Ill have to switch coils for the SE1 to the .2s.
And get some thinner clapton wire.
My builds usually come out about .4 when I build them myself.
Its only the SE1 tank with the problem.
No problems on my other stuff.
Just the SE1 is my daily driver heh.

 

[BoostAddict]

I was a good tank back in it's day for VW, but has always sucked for TC IMO.

 

[Lowfibass]

No this is the new one. The SE1. It uses the new crown coils.
Its very nice. My favorite so far.

 

[~Don~]

No this is the new one. The SE1. It uses the new crown coils.
Its very nice. My favorite so far.

Unless you're running .5 in TC

 

[~Don~]

For those willing to deal with FastTech...

 

[Saratoga Joe]

For those willing to deal with FastTech...

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Why put yourself through the agony?
Starting at midnight, get 15% off at Ecig City, with code - HOLIDAY2016
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Final cost is $75.65 with free shipping.
Black only.

 

[SirRichardRear]

Why put yourself through the agony?
Starting at midnight, get 15% off at Ecig City, with code - HOLIDAY2016
https://ecig-city.com/collections/box-mod/products/hcigar-vt167-167w-tc-box-mod?variant=26724474051
Final cost is $75.65 with free shipping.
Black only.

sweet deal

 

[mjag]

Why put yourself through the agony?
Starting at midnight, get 15% off at Ecig City, with code - HOLIDAY2016
https://ecig-city.com/collections/box-mod/products/hcigar-vt167-167w-tc-box-mod?variant=26724474051
Final cost is $75.65 with free shipping.
Black only.

If I didn't already get a Finder 167 that sale would be tempting.

I actually saw the vt167 in person, looks really nice, problem was it was right next to the Finder

Thanks for tipping me off to the sale.

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[Angrygod50]

@Wingsfan0310 Steve I updated to SP5 and the battery meter shows 0%. Tried hard boot, soft boot, remove battery nothing. Went back to SP3 no meter did the boot stuff again, no help. Went back to SP5 no meter, boot stuff again no help. Batteries reading 7.3 volts (VT133) All the boot stuff was from the Evolv forum. Any ideas? Currently using SP3