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Twenty years later I learn, ... LOL
Apologies if that seems a sniping crack, yet there's truth in it. I'm trying to stay "surface" level. It can be difficult when you thought everything was going along fine. Figuring out, there's two times you screw up.
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Actually, we go by the low temperatures. It has gotten down into the 40s at night instead of the 80s we had been accustomed to all summer. So yeah, winter is coming.
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