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BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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Mine did the one with the black sleeve on the package. It just stopped turning on.they offered me another and I said no thanks so I got store credit. Vaporsharks were 140 so I paid 60 for each and they are solid so far
Man...thats discouraging to hear.
Especially about the Black Sleeved V2.
Hope I have better luck with mine when it gets here or I'll be LIVID!
I doubt Vaportekusa will replace ANYTHING unless its flat out DOA per their return policy.
 

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What is very interesting about all of this, is my first Invader Mini (IM) which is two months old and the only v1 I own. Has occasionally wouldn't turn on sometimes after exchanging the battery. And the other two are v2 (a month old) and I never saw it happen on them yet. But with the one that does, I just unscrew the cap, grab a shinny dime and place the face of the dime against the negative side of the battery and replace the battery cap. It works every time. You can even make sure it turns on and unscrew the cap and remove the dime and replace the cap again without the dime and it still works.

I came up with the dime trick when the very early reports complained if you slam them down on the table, they might lose the battery connection briefly and power off. I don't think I ever really saw this problem per se. But I though it might be a problem in the future. So I decided that since I was using flat top batteries, top cap batteries are a tad longer. So to make the battery seem a bit longer, I decided a dime should do the trick. I ohmed a dime and I could not read any resistance. I used a power supply and passed 20 amps through it and I couldn't detect any heat. So it seemed safe to me.

Why this is working, I have no idea! Is it because the battery is lengthened? Does it rough up the negative side of the battery and the pin on the cap to make a better connection? I just don't know why it works? And to be frank, without the dime I believe it wouldn't turn on twice in two months. And this morning when I exchanged the battery was the second time it had happened.
 

BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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What is very interesting about all of this, is my first Invader Mini (IM) which is two months old and the only v1 I own. Has occasionally wouldn't turn on sometimes after exchanging the battery. And the other two are v2 (a month old) and I never saw it happen on them yet. But with the one that does, I just unscrew the cap, grab a shinny dime and place the face of the dime against the negative side of the battery and replace the battery cap. It works every time. You can even make sure it turns on and unscrew the cap and remove the dime and replace the cap again without the dime and it still works.

I came up with the dime trick when the very early reports complained if you slam them down on the table, they might lose the battery connection briefly and power off. I don't think I ever really saw this problem per se. But I though it might be a problem in the future. So I decided that since I was using flat top batteries, top cap batteries are a tad longer. So to make the battery seem a bit longer, I decided a dime should do the trick. I ohmed a dime and I could not read any resistance. I used a power supply and passed 20 amps through it and I couldn't detect any heat. So it seemed safe to me.

Why this is working, I have no idea! Is it because the battery is lengthened? Does it rough up the negative side of the battery and the pin on the cap to make a better connection? I just don't know why it works? And to be frank, without the dime I believe it wouldn't turn on twice in two months. And this morning when I exchanged the battery was the second time it had happened.
Nice tip Bill.
Have you ever tried button-top batteries in it?
 

BillW50

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I should also add that I only have heard of two reports so far about dots appearing randomly on the display. This thread is one and the other one the guy removed the battery and then put it back in and all was fine once again. I have no idea if that always fixes that problem or not?
 

BillW50

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Well the only two button top batteries I have are BestFire IMR 20A batteries (they look virtually identical to EFest purple batteries, which what I thought they were from the photo). And I don't trust them much more than about 15 watts. And I would have to run them for months to see if the problem never comes back again. And I wouldn't trust running them that long personally. They are fine for a 15 watt Vamo or something.
 

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Mine is still running perfect.

As far as batteries go, I never consider purchasing or using a battery that has "Fire" as part of the brand name.
 

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Is there a waterproof, floating mod? Would be great for kayaking and fishing etc. I thought maybe there are no real waterproof ones because they need a way to vent for safety reasons.
 

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To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a mod that can float.

As for the Invader, I will actually ask how venting is accomplished. My theory is that the body of the device is so heavy, that any gasses would escape via the threading of the battery cap or blow the seal around the 510 connector under the top cap.
 

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Hi kompressaur. I really don't think so, just a bit less.

Thanks Bill. Looks like i'll have to hold back for a 75w version. Im really sold on the waterproofness of it all. Be my 'vaping in the rain' mod etc etc
 

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To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a mod that can float.​

lol

Is there anywhere on here we can talk about future vaping possible technoligies/daft ideas?
 

BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as a mod that can float.

As for the Invader, I will actually ask how venting is accomplished. My theory is that the body of the device is so heavy, that any gasses would escape via the threading of the battery cap or blow the seal around the 510 connector under the top cap.
I saw a P Bastardo video about this:
I guess the battery tube isnt solid in structure.
The part facing the buttons is covered with some sort of shitty black paper looking stuff. (He took it all apart in the video)
After that black stuff is removed it exposes the electronics and buttons.
And when a failure occurs its supposed to blow out all the frontside buttons.
He demonstrated this by inserting an air hose into the battery chamber.
It didnt really blow out the buttons completely, but you could see how it was supposed to work.
 

BillW50

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What Heatvape said how the Invader Mini vents is like this. There is no open vents so it is water tight. But when a battery vents inside of an Invader Mini, that tube that you see in there is only paper or thin plastic. So the pressure is free to go anywhere inside of the mod and the silicon over the three buttons are designed to blow out with excessive pressure. And that is your vents.

Nor do I know of a mod that can float. But you could always tie a string to it that is attached to a floatation device I suppose.

Yes UncleRJ, nor do I normally buy any battery or charger with the name fire in it either. But I thought they were efest batteries when I ordered them. They had the font, color, and everything looking just like the purple efest batteries. I joke about the BestFire batteries that they really do make the best fires. lol
 

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Update the ring that screws to the atomizer is annoying and currently stuck to my Atlantis 2. It's so bad I can't get it off tried to with pliers and messed it up so my invader has a permanent Atlantis on it
 

BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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Update the ring that screws to the atomizer is annoying and currently stuck to my Atlantis 2. It's so bad I can't get it off tried to with pliers and messed it up so my invader has a permanent Atlantis on it
Righty-Tighty, Lefty-Loosy Durka!

Just kidding ya man.
Couldn't resist that one.

Did you really crank down on that thing to get it stuck like that, or is it maybe just cross-threaded and locked up on ya?
 

BillW50

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Update the ring that screws to the atomizer is annoying and currently stuck to my Atlantis 2. It's so bad I can't get it off tried to with pliers and messed it up so my invader has a permanent Atlantis on it
I heard that sometimes sticking it into the freezer for a bit can help. Another thing that can help is heat too. But you have to be careful with heat since you have a 510 insulator and stuff that will melt if it gets too hot.
 

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OMG! They promised in the early ads that you can just replace the cap in case of the 510 threads strip out or something. So I have been waiting for these things becoming available. I was more interested in them for atty stands and you can just screw them on the Invader Mini without any fuss. I wonder if they offer discounts if you order like 10 of them?
 

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OK THE freezer thing and tapping it on something didn't work not going to try the heat thing but I did contact my freedom smokes who I bought it from and he is sending me a new ring good folk there
 

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At least this mod has a removable 510, hopefully u can get the tank off so u can salvage it.

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Ready for a Rant?

I finally received the package from VAPORTEKUSA today.
It only took 9 F#*!ING DAYS to get here!
As if I wasnt pissed enough by the ridiculous time that it took, when I opened the package I found a Heatvape vMesh sitting in there.
So I looked at the packing slip to check the order info, all the info was correct but they sent the WRONG DAMN ITEM!
Not a very good experience so far with this company.
They obviously dropped the ball in more than just one way with this order.

So I call them.
They dont pick up the phone because Im not local.
So I call the online orders number.
They dont pick up the phone because its after 3pm.
So now I have to send them a message and sit here with my thumb in my a$$ for god knows HOW LONG until they decide to respond.
Great.

Im going to call them first thing in the morning and give them 1 option to fix this.
Get the correct order to me in 3 days with a pre-paid shipping label for the others return....or LOSE THE SALE COMPLETELY!
It might sound harse, but under the circumstances I think Im being pretty fair about it.:cool:

And needless to say...
I WONT BE DOING BUSINESS WITH THOSE A$$CLOWNS AT VAPORTEKUSA EVER AGAIN!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Thanks for letting me vent.:D
 
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That well and truly sucketh!

I know how bad you wanted it and then they mess up your order.

Hope they make it right for you very quickly!
 

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That stinks, completely different mod type even. That said if I ordered a sig 100 and received a 150 I wouldn't say a fucking word.
 

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Ready for a Rant?

I finally received the package from VAPORTEKUSA today.
It only took 9 F#*!ING DAYS to get here!
As if I wasnt pissed enough by the ridiculous time that it took, when I opened the package I found a Heatvape vMesh sitting in there.
So I looked at the packing slip to check the order info, all the info was correct but they sent the WRONG DAMN ITEM!
Not a very good experience so far with this company.
They obviously dropped the ball in more than just one way with this order.

So I call them.
They dont pick up the phone because Im not local.
So I call the online orders number.
They dont pick up the phone because its after 3pm.
So now I have to send them a message and sit here with my thumb in my a$$ for god knows HOW LONG until they decide to respond.
Great.

Im going to call them first thing in the morning and give them 1 option to fix this.
Get the correct order to me in 3 days with a pre-paid shipping label for the others return....or LOSE THE SALE COMPLETELY!
It might sound harse, but under the circumstances I think Im being pretty fair about it.:cool:

And needless to say...
I WONT BE DOING BUSINESS WITH THOSE A$$CLOWNS AT VAPORTEKUSA EVER AGAIN!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Thanks for letting me vent.:D

If they don't make it right quickly, dispute the charge on your card - wrong merchandise sent, vendor/store not responding.
 

BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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If they don't make it right quickly, dispute the charge on your card - wrong merchandise sent, vendor/store not responding.
Well...supposedly they are shipping it within the hour Priority 2-3 day shipping. That means I still won't see it until this weekend most likely, so I don't feel that they really made ANYTHING right.
The whole situation of dealing with this HALF-ASS COMPANY has really left a bad taste in my mouth, and instead of being excited for this thing to get here, I'm now kind of dreading it.
What's it gonna be next?
Open box...damaged item... DOA???

More Important Info For Fellow Forum Members:
I inquired about an RDA while I was on the phone with these jerk-offs and asked if it was real or a clone.
He said...a clone.
Then as we got into things further he stated that ALL of the RDA'S they sell are Clones!
I asked why they don't advertise them as clones??
He said...the price should tell you that they are clones.
Man.....that's some shady ass shit!
Yeah, the price IS a very good indicator that they are clones, but when they aren't advertised as clones (a noob to RDA's such as myself) might just think they are having a great sale and they are getting an authentic RDA for a good deal.
And that's exactly what these jerk-offs are counting on!
So I asked why are you knowingly and willing selling them like this?
He said because not everyone wants to pay more for the real thing.
Shady Shady Shady!
I told him they should at least have clones clearly labeled as such so people don't get mislead.

Needless to say....
This is the first and LAST PURCHASE that I will EVER MAKE from Vaportekusa!
And I will have no problem letting other Vapers know about their bad business practices.
 

BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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Its about DAMN time!!!

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So far I really like it though.
There IS some weight to it, but not enough to bother me.
 

BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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Update:

After having a little time playing around with it on the weekend there are a couple things that I found that concern me.

1. The fire button on mine seems to need to be held in -just right- and with quite a bit of pressure or it will stop firing. Even if your thumb is on it firmly and you rock or roll your thumb just slightly to the left or right it stops firing. Ive never had a mod do this.
Does anyone elses do that?

2. After using my Subtank Mini V2 on it for a while, I took it off and put it back on my Kbox Mini that it goes with. All of a sudden my Kbox isnt firing. The tank wasnt making a good connection with the Kbox for sone odd reason now. I played with the pin on the bottom of the tank a bit and that seemed to fix the problem....
But it makes me wonder if the Invader's Odd way of connecting with that funky top cap is damaging the center pin on my tank because Ive never had a problem with it before.
(It wasnt dirty, and there wasnt juice on it either)
That REALLY concerns me.
If that top cap and connection method is going to RUIN tanks, it isnt worth it.
Not too long ago Durka said one of his tanks got permanently attached to the damn thing.
 

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Both of those concern me. I'd been kinda looking at this one, now not so much.

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BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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Both of those concern me. I'd been kinda looking at this one, now not so much.

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Used it at work all day yesterday.
Im finding the better way to fire this one is fisting it and using the side of my trigger finger rather than thumb firing.
Doing it like that, I didnt really get the misfires.
Since Ive always thumb fired all of my mods its a bit of a new thing for me, but it's not too bad I guess.

The other thing I noticed is that this mod seems to fire significantly hotter than my Suboxes or iSticks.
It starts burning my Kanger Vertical OCC's at just 25w where as I can run them to 38w-40w on the Suboxes before they burn.
That seems REALLY odd!

I'd sure like to know if anyone else is finding this to fire hotter.
 

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Last comment about VAPORTEKUSA:

As I had said earlier, I had to wait over 2 weeks to even receive this device because they sent the wrong item. Before I even had it in my hands I noticed that they had dropped the price on it $8. So I sent an email and asked if they would mind refunding the difference.
You'd think after the screw up on their end theyd have no problem with that, so
I waited 6 days for a response, and of course I was ignored.
Not a big surprise considering their track record is it?

Today I decided to give them a call and talk about it.
The person I talked to was the same guy who had made the original shipping error.
When I asked if he would refund the difference he acted like I was asking him to walk naked over hot coals.
He said, "why would I refund you the difference? "
I said MOST companies stand behind thier price for at least 2 weeks if not 30 days.
He said, "well...I can see right here you placed your order over two weeks ago, so no."
I told him that it took OVER 2 WEEKS TO EVEN RECEIVE MY ORDER BECAUSE HE SENT THE WRONG ITEM OUT!
He said," oh...you're THAT guy"
(What a little SHITHEAD )
I said yep...Im THAT GUY whos order YOU screwed up, now what!?
He said "Fine I'll give you the difference "
Then he tries to tell me that he cant refund the difference because my credit card is invalid.
WHAT? COMMON GUY! I JUST USED MY CARD TODAY I KNOW ITS VALID, DONT PULL THIS SHIT WITH ME! RUN IT AGAIN!!
He said nope...it wont go through.
I told him the problem is obviously on HIS END and to keep doing it.
He said hes already processed HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN REFUNDS TODAY
and his machine is working fine.
(really??... kinda makes you wonder why they're processing so many refunds doesnt it? )
I told him keep trying it, or turn the call over to his boss.
WOW...For some weird reason it magically went through that time.
Damn Jerk-Off!

So thats been my experience with Vaportekusa.
Grade A team over there eh?
Buyers Beware!
 

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Damn, what a hassle and thanks for the warning about these asshats!

I am beyond sorry that the Invader Mini is not living up to your expectations.

Sorry to say that the one I have is still working like a champ.

I switch toppers on it all the time and nothing like you described has ever happened.

Since it is not living up to your expectations (and I know this is a stupid question) is there any chance you can return it?

Damn, I feel bad for you Bro!
 

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Another vendor I shall add to the "nope" list.

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BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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Damn, what a hassle and thanks for the warning about these asshats!

I am beyond sorry that the Invader Mini is not living up to your expectations.

Sorry to say that the one I have is still working like a champ.

I switch toppers on it all the time and nothing like you described has ever happened.

Since it is not living up to your expectations (and I know this is a stupid question) is there any chance you can return it?

Damn, I feel bad for you Bro!
Yeah...those guys arent right in any way I try to look at it.
NO. Theres no way Im going to try and haggle a return with those dip shits.
It truly isnt worth the aggravation RJ.
I want NOTHING more to do with that "company" EVER again.

After all was said and done, I got the thing for $45 to the door.
Not bad considering I was looking for a deal on one.
But all the hassle to do it...jeesh.
I would've gladly paid an additional $15 to avoid the complications from another vendor. SERIOUSLY.

But like I said...
I really like the mod.
Ive found with fisting the thing and using the side of my trigger finger it works fine most of the time.
Is it just me?
Eh...I dont think so, but its possible I guess.
As for it burning hotter, DEFINITELY.
Unless all my other mods are crap, and this is the best and most accurate in my arsenal.
I doubt that, but then again I DONT have any high end mods either.

Would I buy another one?
Yeah.
I was looking for a decent work and outdoor Beater Rig , and I think it fits the bill fine for that.
I love the ruggedness, and way it feels it the hand.
Being water resistant/shock proof, and not having to baby the thing is the Cherry On Top.
Would I buy it for a all day all nigjt Vape?
Naw, but it DOES serve it's intended purpose I think.
 

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Aug 12 was my birthday and I needed an excuse to buy an Invader Mini so I shopped around and it was a toss up between Efun.Top (45.00)and myfreedomsmoke (53.00 after 17% off).
Man am I glad i chose MFS because when it and the two Sony batteries arrived, The invader powered up and everything looked fine until new coil up and after that all the mod would do is read open atomizer from that point on.
Heatvape support ticket was answered in 3 hours but the only help they offered was to instruct me to install an atomizer on the mod.
Next day called MFS and I had a new one on the way WITH a return shipping label for the old one. GREAT customer service.
Got the new one today and all is well the Invader Mini is performing flawlessly (hope I didn't jinx it) in both Kanthol and Power mode.
Even if I did get good CS from Efun.top I do believe I would still be waiting for the first one to arrive and would be on my own the shipping cost to return it.
VAPE ON ! - water resistant style.
 

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I have had my mini for about 6 weeks and it works great. I have been using a Kanger subtank plus with the Ni coils. Like I said it's works great but have noticed that as the battery gets low the vape cools off and requires increasing the temp to offset. Using Sony Vtc4's. was wondering if low battery effects the umph needed to maintain temp?
 

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Having had the Invader Mini for a couple months now... I am right on the fence of wanting to replace it. The issues are pretty annoying.

Negatives:
1. Biggest issue I have is the TC mode is flaky at best (using Ni200 28g wire). If I let the device go to 'sleep' it seems to only vape at 1/2 power when you turn it back on even though the screen is correct (much harder to draw air in/vapor cloud is about 1/2 of normal, feels like air vents are partially closed). Simply unscrewing the tank (Triton and Subtank Mini in my case) and screwing back on, telling it it's a 'New Coil' fixes the problem every time (nothing changes on the screen, ohms of coil, temp setting, etc, but it still fixes the issue). Haven't noticed that issue with VV/VW mode, only in TC mode and happens often.
2. Turning off randomly. Not talking the sleep mode after x amount of minutes, talking about taking a vape, then 10 seconds later going for another and it is off for no reason. Happens daily.
3. Loses settings often for no reason. If it happened when switching batteries out at least it would to an issue I could replicate each time, but no, it seems to happen often when it goes to sleep or shuts off randomly no matter if it is a fully charged battery or almost dead. Defaults back to 10w so when it resets you wonder if it is off. It can be annoying and even dangerous when it happens while driving in traffic and you have to mess with the battery to get the settings back up to where you had them.

Those 3 are enough for me to be frustrated with it and not as happy as I would like to be. Other gripe, but not really an issue of the device, is battery life is horrible, but when sub-ohming on a single 18650, no matter how many mAh it is, just isn't going to last very long. I can't blame the device for the limitations of the batteries it can use.

If I were giving it a rating out of 10, I would give it a 6/10. When it works it is great, but too often you are spending time troubleshooting things that seem to be a fault of the device and not the user.
 

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Having had the Invader Mini for a couple months now... I am right on the fence of wanting to replace it. The issues are pretty annoying.

Negatives:
1. Biggest issue I have is the TC mode is flaky at best (using Ni200 28g wire). If I let the device go to 'sleep' it seems to only vape at 1/2 power when you turn it back on even though the screen is correct (much harder to draw air in/vapor cloud is about 1/2 of normal, feels like air vents are partially closed). Simply unscrewing the tank (Triton and Subtank Mini in my case) and screwing back on, telling it it's a 'New Coil' fixes the problem every time (nothing changes on the screen, ohms of coil, temp setting, etc, but it still fixes the issue). Haven't noticed that issue with VV/VW mode, only in TC mode and happens often.
2. Turning off randomly. Not talking the sleep mode after x amount of minutes, talking about taking a vape, then 10 seconds later going for another and it is off for no reason. Happens daily.
3. Loses settings often for no reason. If it happened when switching batteries out at least it would to an issue I could replicate each time, but no, it seems to happen often when it goes to sleep or shuts off randomly no matter if it is a fully charged battery or almost dead. Defaults back to 10w so when it resets you wonder if it is off. It can be annoying and even dangerous when it happens while driving in traffic and you have to mess with the battery to get the settings back up to where you had them.

Those 3 are enough for me to be frustrated with it and not as happy as I would like to be. Other gripe, but not really an issue of the device, is battery life is horrible, but when sub-ohming on a single 18650, no matter how many mAh it is, just isn't going to last very long. I can't blame the device for the limitations of the batteries it can use.

If I were giving it a rating out of 10, I would give it a 6/10. When it works it is great, but too often you are spending time troubleshooting things that seem to be a fault of the device and not the user.
I thought about picking one of these up, but honestly the only thing that kept me from it was that I really didn't like the style. After reading your post on the issues you've had with it, I'm glad I didn't get one. If someone sent me one I would use it, and if it had problems or died, it wouldn't bother me, but if I spent my own $$ on it and had the same experience, I would be pissed. Thanks for good info.
 

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Having had the Invader Mini for a couple months now... I am right on the fence of wanting to replace it. The issues are pretty annoying.

Negatives:
1. Biggest issue I have is the TC mode is flaky at best (using Ni200 28g wire). If I let the device go to 'sleep' it seems to only vape at 1/2 power when you turn it back on even though the screen is correct (much harder to draw air in/vapor cloud is about 1/2 of normal, feels like air vents are partially closed). Simply unscrewing the tank (Triton and Subtank Mini in my case) and screwing back on, telling it it's a 'New Coil' fixes the problem every time (nothing changes on the screen, ohms of coil, temp setting, etc, but it still fixes the issue). Haven't noticed that issue with VV/VW mode, only in TC mode and happens often.
2. Turning off randomly. Not talking the sleep mode after x amount of minutes, talking about taking a vape, then 10 seconds later going for another and it is off for no reason. Happens daily.
3. Loses settings often for no reason. If it happened when switching batteries out at least it would to an issue I could replicate each time, but no, it seems to happen often when it goes to sleep or shuts off randomly no matter if it is a fully charged battery or almost dead. Defaults back to 10w so when it resets you wonder if it is off. It can be annoying and even dangerous when it happens while driving in traffic and you have to mess with the battery to get the settings back up to where you had them.

Those 3 are enough for me to be frustrated with it and not as happy as I would like to be. Other gripe, but not really an issue of the device, is battery life is horrible, but when sub-ohming on a single 18650, no matter how many mAh it is, just isn't going to last very long. I can't blame the device for the limitations of the batteries it can use.

If I were giving it a rating out of 10, I would give it a 6/10. When it works it is great, but too often you are spending time troubleshooting things that seem to be a fault of the device and not the user.

This is what I have been experiencing, not daily but once every few days...relegated to when I'm out by the pool. Evic VCT (black) be here Monday !
 

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This is what I have been experiencing, not daily but once every few days...relegated to when I'm out by the pool. Evic VCT (black) be here Monday !
Okay, I can see this as a poolside mod.
 

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Having had the Invader Mini for a couple months now... I am right on the fence of wanting to replace it. The issues are pretty annoying.

Negatives:
1. Biggest issue I have is the TC mode is flaky at best (using Ni200 28g wire). If I let the device go to 'sleep' it seems to only vape at 1/2 power when you turn it back on even though the screen is correct (much harder to draw air in/vapor cloud is about 1/2 of normal, feels like air vents are partially closed). Simply unscrewing the tank (Triton and Subtank Mini in my case) and screwing back on, telling it it's a 'New Coil' fixes the problem every time (nothing changes on the screen, ohms of coil, temp setting, etc, but it still fixes the issue). Haven't noticed that issue with VV/VW mode, only in TC mode and happens often.
2. Turning off randomly. Not talking the sleep mode after x amount of minutes, talking about taking a vape, then 10 seconds later going for another and it is off for no reason. Happens daily.
3. Loses settings often for no reason. If it happened when switching batteries out at least it would to an issue I could replicate each time, but no, it seems to happen often when it goes to sleep or shuts off randomly no matter if it is a fully charged battery or almost dead. Defaults back to 10w so when it resets you wonder if it is off. It can be annoying and even dangerous when it happens while driving in traffic and you have to mess with the battery to get the settings back up to where you had them.

Those 3 are enough for me to be frustrated with it and not as happy as I would like to be. Other gripe, but not really an issue of the device, is battery life is horrible, but when sub-ohming on a single 18650, no matter how many mAh it is, just isn't going to last very long. I can't blame the device for the limitations of the batteries it can use.

If I were giving it a rating out of 10, I would give it a 6/10. When it works it is great, but too often you are spending time troubleshooting things that seem to be a fault of the device and not the user.
I have had mine for over a month and yes I have had a few of the same issues. I have found the adjustments that are necessary to get the device to function as I would like. I use the TC with Ni coils from Kanger and really enjoy the vape it produces. I am very active and the weapon as I refer to it has taken a few drops and keeps working just fine.
 

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I have had mine for over a month and yes I have had a few of the same issues. I have found the adjustments that are necessary to get the device to function as I would like. I use the TC with Ni coils from Kanger and really enjoy the vape it produces. I am very active and the weapon as I refer to it has taken a few drops and keeps working just fine.
Ya, mine has taken a few drops as well, unfortunately it seems to ALWAYS land on the tank side, not the battery side. I broke a 2 day old Triton tank by dropping it. My Invader seems to be getting worse. Every 10-15 minutes I have to unscrew the tank 1 turn and put it back on to get it working right, telling it it's a 'new coil'. I have been using the same Ni build for a week on the Triton and it is about time to redo the coil but the odd thing now is, I hit the button to vape, it reads a .12ohm coil and seems to vape at 1/2 power, I unscrew it and tell it it's a new coil, it then reads double, .24ohm coil. After 1 vape, it goes down to .18, second vape goes down to .12 again and works fine. Weird bug in the programming or something to do with Ni coils as they age? Regardless, next payday the Invader is going to be relegated to 'beach duty' and not my daily battery. Sure wish these things had the ability to have their firmware updated via USB cable because these bugs should be fixable with a firmware update.
 

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Ya, mine has taken a few drops as well, unfortunately it seems to ALWAYS land on the tank side, not the battery side. I broke a 2 day old Triton tank by dropping it. My Invader seems to be getting worse. Every 10-15 minutes I have to unscrew the tank 1 turn and put it back on to get it working right, telling it it's a 'new coil'. I have been using the same Ni build for a week on the Triton and it is about time to redo the coil but the odd thing now is, I hit the button to vape, it reads a .12ohm coil and seems to vape at 1/2 power, I unscrew it and tell it it's a new coil, it then reads double, .24ohm coil. After 1 vape, it goes down to .18, second vape goes down to .12 again and works fine. Weird bug in the programming or something to do with Ni coils as they age? Regardless, next payday the Invader is going to be relegated to 'beach duty' and not my daily battery. Sure wish these things had the ability to have their firmware updated via USB cable because these bugs should be fixable with a firmware update.
I am not sure how it can be updated since there is no USB. unfortunately you may have gotten one that is more quirky. Any chance of returning for warranty issues? I know there are a lot of these out there so some are sure to have some bugs, sorry to hear that you one of the few with more than usual.
 

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Jeesh...

I've been thinking about getting into temp control but really don't know much about it.
Yet I have a TC mod right in front of me with the Invader right? Yeah right!

A good friend of mine said she'd send me some nickel wire so I could test it out before buying nickel or a higher end temp mod. So nice of HER OF COURSE, but with THIS thing... I told her not to bother. Its unpredictable as hell. All of the problems that have been stated I've experienced... even the pixle screen. Taking the battery out and putting it back in solved it for ME but who knows what's REALLY up with this thing.

Not even gonna try TC mode with this thing. If it actually works at all I'm sure it will perform differently in the next half hour or so. Haha.

So guys...
I stand by my statement of a while back
If you want a good beater rig for work it's great.
and I WAS able to get caught in a Monsoon this summer with it and the water protection worked. Its also tough as nails.
but other than that....forget it.
Just saying this to try and help ya.

I still would buy another one for work when mine dies...and at this point I think that's inevitable.
But other than work...no way.

This next comment is just for the Vapers and in NO F#$%KING WAY endorses those Jack Offs at Vaporteckusa:
Right now they have this mod for $41 and I think you can get 10% off of that with a coupon code of some sorts. I THINK it's the best deal going right now on them but I don't know.
I'm just saying this to help the hard working class Vaper who needs a Beater Rig.
I wouldn't give 1 drop of piss for those ass clowns at VaporTeck.

So there ya go.
 
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BLACKTOOTHGRIN

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And for all the Invader lovers out there:

I'm right there with ya guys....I really am.

I just wish the thing would work as it should.
 

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I have been using this mod for a few weeks. It works great I use it with my drippers because it is waterproof, I can't complain only issues I have seen are the fire button is a Lil wacky most likely due to it being rubberized for waterproofing and the deep sleep. All in all it does a great job.
 

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Well, interestingly enough, it does appear a 7 day old Ni200 build is creating the issues in TC mode, at least with the Triton tank. I have built a dozen nickel coil builds with 2 different Triton tanks with the RBA just to pinpoint the issue I am having. New nickel build seems to work for a few days without any issues with the "1/2 power problem" and the ohms are stable when I unscrew and screw it back on and tell it is a new coil, where as the week old coil seems to show double the ohms after I unscrew and screw it back on. By the time I replaced the 7 day old nickel coil I would be lucky to get 5 minutes of it working as it should before vapor production just dropped off, then I tell it it's a new coil and it would work another 5 minutes. I am now on day 3 and so far, knock on wood, I haven't had the issue yet.

So my solution for the 1/2 power problem in TC mode for me is to replace the coils every 3 days. Not a big deal, I have several rebuildable coils for the Triton so I can keep a fresh spare with me so I am not left with a frustrating vape if the issue happens on the way to work. Again, want to point out, I never had the 1/2 power issue in VV/VW mode using the .4ohm Triton coils or using a kanthal build on the RBA. It has only shown up when using TC mode with Ni200 wire for me. Maybe it is the wire, or the gauge, or maybe nickel wire just doesn't last long or reliably because of how soft it is, or just a issue with the Invader. I don't know, I'm just happy I found out what to do when the issue starts popping up.
 

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Well after 2+ months using the Mini I decided to invest In a new TC mod. I found that the TC on the Mini to be unpredictable and annoying. I was constantly making adjustments to maintain any consistent temp and flavor. In straight power/watt mode it works just fine. In TC I was changing the Ni coils too often, adjustments with every battery level change and battery life to name a few of the issues.

I switched to a Sigelei 150 TC mod and it's a night and day difference in every way. Using both a Kanger and Crown sub tanks with the Ni coils and everything that was frustrating about the Mini is gone. What a difference it is to set it and forget it and what a pleasure to go almost 2 days before a battery change is needed as opposed to every 4-5 hours. I realize The Sig is a 2 battery system but power management is obvious. I use Charlie Noble's juice and now all of them are tasty at the perfectly consistent temp.

I will continue to use the Mini but not as my everyday TC device.
 

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