IPV 3 LI - does this TC work?

[TheVapingDevil]

Hi all
I have been using my ipv 3 LI for some time now but mainly in power mode. Came from a sx m class and sig 75 TC so I am familiar with TC and their settings. It seems like my LI may not be working in TC correctly.
I built up a dual Ti build, locked In resistance at room temp (.17) and set it at 430 degrees and 36 joules. It was ok but needed fine tuning
Adjusted Joules up a bit and it got hotter so I reduced the temp and still hot. Adjusted temp lower and lower and lower. I went all the way down to 250 and it really didn't make a difference. Adjusted joules down and finally it was it cooler. This goes against everything I know of regarding TC. This same build n juice used to work great at 530 degrees on past mods.
Watching the display while in TC mode, raising or lowering the temp didn't really have any effect on the volts. Lowering or raising joules did. Trying to figure out what the volts display while in TC is actually telling me. Shouldn't it be the power being delivered to the atty? If so I should see it hit temp and then maintain as volts should bounce around a bit. Mine just goes up a few tents and then doesn't fluctuate
Any help from any of the LI users would be greatly appreciated. In power mode it is flawless I just think the TC portion is not acting correctly or I am a dumb ass


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[centella4u]

I'm considering getting one, so let me know also.


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[Powerman]

Just a guess but possible loose connection. It's not the same, but my Crown coils on my DNA the ohms will drift. Well then there is no TC. It either kicks out to power, or it simply can't regulate with ohms all over the place. Sorry it's not the same as yours, but worth looking at. Ti on your box should not be a problem at all. But I think if TC is wacky, then your resistance must be wacky. Does your resistance move when firing like it should?

 

[MrScaryZ]

Sounds to me like either your build is not working right or its not reading the ohms correctly..
If you lock the ohms in how are you doing it?

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Just a guess but possible loose connection. It's not the same, but my Crown coils on my DNA the ohms will drift. Well then there is no TC. It either kicks out to power, or it simply can't regulate with ohms all over the place. Sorry it's not the same as yours, but worth looking at. Ti on your box should not be a problem at all. But I think if TC is wacky, then your resistance must be wacky. Does your resistance move when firing like it should?

Thanks for the input. I am going to do a few experiments this morning with an rba Ti build to see if it will take a wet wick and bode it dry till it hits the no liquid error. I'd think that would tell me something. Thinking back I dont believe the resistance moves once it's locked on. I know my d2 does but not the LI


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[TheVapingDevil]

Sounds to me like either your build is not working right or its not reading the ohms correctly..
If you lock the ohms in how are you doing it?

Lock the resistance in by letting mod and tank rest at room temp with juice in the rta. Once everything is at room temp for min of 15 mins then I hit the up/down buttons at the same time. The mod then tells me set resistance xyz and I then hit the power button and that's it. Correct?


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[MrScaryZ]

Thanks for the input. I am going to do a few experiments this morning with an rba Ti build to see if it will take a wet wick and bode it dry till it hits the no liquid error. I'd think that would tell me something. Thinking back I dont believe the resistance moves once it's locked on. I know my d2 does but not the LI


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Yep just checking.. I would check your build

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Dual Ti 26 g 2.5 mm and it matches up to steam engine and post hole screw tight. But I'm gonna make another single BullShit coil today just to test this out.


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[TheVapingDevil]

Rebuilt a new dual Ti set up at .18, 475 degrees and 35 joules. It appears to now be working. I see the voltage output fluctuating as the power is applied and all appears ok now. Not sure what was wrong but thanks everyone for your inputs


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[Powerman]

I can't see my ohms moving around on my mod, but escribe as a atomizer analyzer. Ohms will bounce around and I know my stuff isn't tight, or the coil is just toast. Still works putting power to it, but it won't regulate temp. Just a problem with my setup. But should be the same for you... If your TC isn't working right, then for whatever reason, resistance isn't reading right. Not meaning accurate to what the build is, meaning not reading correct or stable. Then TC doesn't know what to do with it.

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Can't explain what it was. However putting a fresh new build on it did the trick. If only now an update to correctly do ss wire would come out for the LI then life would be good lolol.


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[Mattp169]

Can't explain what it was. However putting a fresh new build on it did the trick. If only now an update to correctly do ss wire would come out for the LI then life would be good lolol.


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THIS
YES THIS
even the d3 wont do SS TC what BS

 

[MrScaryZ]

Can't explain what it was. However putting a fresh new build on it did the trick. If only now an update to correctly do ss wire would come out for the LI then life would be good lolol.


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Yeah I do not see Yihi updating the SX330 VSL chip you know they are working on a DNA200 killer since they have done nothing for awhile .. Its sad they do not add SS in

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Yeah I do not see Yihi updating the SX330 VSL chip you know they are working on a DNA200 killer since they have done nothing for awhile .. Its sad they do not add SS in

So true. This mid is great. Just lacking ss to put it over the top. Will have to see what they come up with to compete with the dna200


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[MrScaryZ]

So true. This mid is great. Just lacking ss to put it over the top. Will have to see what they come up with to compete with the dna200


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I would say that the SX350j chip does match the DNA 200 chip in many respects with its ability to change TCR etc from the main screen.. Yihi really dropped the ball with the chip only putting out the M Class mod only custom builders really used the 350j the way it should have been implemented..
If anything getting more reliable and better usability is about the only place to go IMHO
If anything else it will be interesting

 

[TheVapingDevil]

The sx ml class looks interesting. Haven't seen a release date yet but I'm sure it will a great device. I loved my sx m until I lost it. I hear the mod to do ss works really well


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[MrScaryZ]

The sx ml class looks interesting. Haven't seen a release date yet but I'm sure it will a great device. I loved my sx m until I lost it. I hear the mod to do ss works really well


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Well see that is my point man the SX350J class chips were only implemented in that tiny ass M classmod commercially but many Custom builders make dual battery designs that take advantage of the power the chip can go up to 150W + it was Yihi dropping the ball.. I have one a dual custom 350J box and if one does not want to have to use Escribe on a PC it surely is the way to go..
The biggest hassle with the DNA 200 is having to use Escribe for me its no big deal but for most people they do not want the hassle.. The next revision will surely change this

 

[TheVapingDevil]

I hear ya man. My only bitch on the sx m was the single battery. I then ordered a custom dual box with the sx m chip in it to take advantage of the avail power. But then I cancelled and went dna200 once ss was Avail ( of course it's not done yet ) should have stayed the course


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[MrScaryZ]

I hear ya man. My only bitch on the sx m was the single battery. I then ordered a custom dual box with the sx m chip in it to take advantage of the avail power. But then I cancelled and went dna200 once ss was Avail ( of course it's not done yet ) should have stayed the course


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I like having them all hahaha but then I have a severe sickness

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Let's face it we are all vape whores lolol


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[MrScaryZ]

Let's face it we are all vape whores lolol


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pretty funny I am talking about these High end mods as I use my Xcube II and have the LED set to a crazy green so I can simulate the opening of the Egg in Alien with no TC?

haha
looks like this

 

[TheVapingDevil]

pretty funny I am talking about these High end mods as I use my Xcube II and have the LED set to a crazy green so I can simulate the opening of the Egg in Alien with no TC?

haha
looks like this

Haha love it


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[Wingsfan0310]

Seems like every time I've had an issue with TC it's either been one of the coil capture screws have come loose or I just flat out messed up on the coil(s). TC can definitely be a touchy beast lol

Cheers,
Steve

 

[centella4u]

Just received mine, updated to 200 watts (which I don't think I'll ever go that high. Now, the next question is "is tc for Ti and Ni only or is it capable of doing the SS wires as well?

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[Wingsfan0310]

First off congratulations, I've had an IPV3 Li every since it was released. It's served me well. To answer your question it only supports Ni200 and Ti1. That being said you may be able to get it to semi work by selecting Ti and turning the temperature down (I'd start at least 100f lower than I like or even at the minimum 212f and work my way up). I've never tried that though so I don't know how effective it will be. You can also run SS in regular power mode. That's a great thing about SS, it can be used in either power mode or TC (provided your mod supports it).

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Deucesjack]

Well see that is my point man the SX350J class chips were only implemented in that tiny ass M classmod commercially but many Custom builders make dual battery designs that take advantage of the power the chip can go up to 150W + it was Yihi dropping the ball.. I have one a dual custom 350J box and if one does not want to have to use Escribe on a PC it surely is the way to go..
The biggest hassle with the DNA 200 is having to use Escribe for me its no big deal but for most people they do not want the hassle.. The next revision will surely change this

Absolutely, if Yihi would have made a double barreled SX I would have been all in. I want the same type of mod with 2 18650's, same shape, same everything just an extra battery. That extension tube they made was hideous.

 

[TheVapingDevil]

First off congratulations, I've had an IPV3 Li every since it was released. It's served me well. To answer your question it only supports Ni200 and Ti1. That being said you may be able to get it to semi work by selecting Ti and turning the temperature down (I'd start at least 100f lower than I like or even at the minimum 200f and work my way up). I've never tried that though so I don't know how effective it will be. You can also run SS in regular power mode. That's a great thing about SS, it can be used in either power mode or TC (provided your mod supports it).

Cheers,
Steve

I have tried TC with ss using my IPV 3 LI. As Wingsfan0310 stated it semi works. I have mine set at 400 when I am normally at 480. It does keep it from constantly heating but it's not as consistent as say a mid with ss mode. Having said that I still use it daily with my dual 24g ss builds and it is nice. The vct mini does a better job at ss TC but then again it has ss mode. Either way my LI is still my fav. At least till my dna200 arrives lolol


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[mamutsis]

Its not possible for ss wire tc to work on the ipv3 or on any other mod on ti mode. Because even if we set it on the lowest temp available (100 Celsius or 200F) it will still be over 300 c or 572F with ss wire making it impossible to have tc. In fact you will have to use 70c or 130f to be vapeable at all but this isnt possible as far as i know. I hope i helped a little, cheers!!

Also i hope sometime in the future yihi will provides us with a ss wire upgrade for the ipv3 Li because imho ss tastes better than any wire i have tried.

 

[TheVapingDevil]

Its not possible for ss wire tc to work on the ipv3 or on any other mod on ti mode. Because even if we set it on the lowest temp available (100 Celsius or 200F) it will still be over 300 c or 572F with ss wire making it impossible to have tc. In fact you will have to use 70c or 130f to be vapeable at all but this isnt possible as far as i know. I hope i helped a little, cheers!!

Also i hope sometime in the future yihi will provides us with a ss wire upgrade for the ipv3 Li because imho ss tastes better than any wire i have tried.

I have tried ss on the ipv 3 li using ti mode and agree it just doesn't work well. It's been stated to go about 80 degrees lower so I started around 350 degrees ( I usually Vape around 480) and it just flat out sucked and wouldn't regulate. I use it in power mode and it's fine but definitely not on TC. Waiting on my dna200 and on meantime I use the vct mini in ss mode


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[Mattp169]

is there anyone on this forum who works for Yihi????

 

[Markw4mms]

is there anyone on this forum who works for Yihi????

If there is, let's hope they're listening. We want a SS update for our Li's!

 

[TheVapingDevil]

If there is, let's hope they're listening. We want a SS update for our Li's!

That would make this device epic lolol


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[Markw4mms]

That would make this device epic lolol


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It's still my favorite mod, but the VTC-mini is a real close second. It's hard to believe how good it is for the price. It's already had 2 updates, and now running 3.0. I can't wait to get some SS to try in the Crius on it.

 

[Mattp169]

ive been sasying it for months they need to update the 3li to have ss tc. its my fav mod atm
im hoping i like the koopor plus i got for xmas as much
now if they would have released an update for ss tc with configurable tcr. I would have gotten a 2nd 3li for xmas instead of the koopor

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I want Yihi to update the Li as much as anyone does. However I'm not holding my breath. I see they are going to be releasing the IPV5 soon. I'm very disappointed that they haven't updated the 3Li yet or even bothered to answer inquiries if they are planning on doing so. I know I'm only one person, but I won't be buying anymore P4Y products until they either:
A: Update it for SS TC (User settable TCR would be even better imo)
or
B. At least address the issue. IE Why they have chosen not to. Could be it's not possible or maybe they don't want to hurt sales for the IPV5. Until it's addressed, I'll assume it's the later.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great mod and it's served me well. My beef with them is they sold it as an upgradeable device and if they are choosing not to upgrade it to sell more of their other future mods, then I will chose not to be a part of that.

 

[mamutsis]

I have contacted both pioneer4you and yihi about an update for the ipv3 li but i havent got an answer from any of them.