I’m starting this thread because, yet again, searches for a topic on VU have turned up empty. Either the search engine is horrible, it isn’t at all user-friendly or, for some bizarre reason it just won’t work on my $1500 laptop.
First off, I’d like to begin this topic by referring to the Element Vape thread on VU:
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/element-vape.109767/page-2#post-1954471
From there on, you can read of my recent experience with a vaping vendor (Element Vape) and a manufacturer (Eleaf).
Basically, I ordered a Temperature Control mod “kit” to test it for two friends that I want to help quit smoking. If I liked it, I was going to order 2 more “kits” for them.
Now, I had seemingly two choices...
1) Purchase a TC mod and search for a compatible TC tank that, hopefully, works well with the mod I’m purchasing.
2) Purchase a kit with a tank and mod that is manufactured and paired together, by the same company. (I suspected this option to be the least expensive)
Well, being I’ve only been vaping since September 1st, 2017 (not an “expert vaper”) and I’ve ordered 2 kits in the past from another company with no issues, the “kit” was the obvious choice. However, this time would be different.
(I’ll get to why I’m quoting “kits” in a minute)
The first 2 TC kits I ordered from Halocigs.com were just that, KITS. They both came with TC coils AND a compatible tank so I could take full advantage of the functionality of the mod that comes with it. Made sense to me so, I went ahead and threw in some extra coils and additional tank with the purchase. I have yet to have ANY problems with either mod, it’s tanks or coils. The tank capacity is too small for my liking but the flavor is better than my Smok TFV12 tanks.
The only reasons I didn’t order these TC starter kits was because I wanted my friends to have a larger ejuice capacity and to be able to vape higher than 80 watts.
After doing some digging through “the top kits” and searching for issues with them, I settled on the Eleaf iKONN 220 TC starter “kit” with the ELLO Sub Ohm tank because I wasn’t able to find any negative feedback or one bad review on it. WELL, HERE’S THE FIRST ONE!
I got my “kit” from Element and right away noticed the mod kept kicking back to wattage mode from Temperature Control, no matter what I did. I had gotten a defective Wismec from Element with the same issue and since the tank and coils came in the “kit” and, I wasn’t exceeding the max wattage of the included coil, the mod must be defective.
I would then get the usual run-around from Element about returning the item and not offering to pay return shipping on a defect until I complain online, of course, then “Kenny” swoops in quelling the bad publicity. (they'll only oil a squeaky wheel)
But this time, they told me I was SOL because the mod was not defective, it was because the tank wasn’t TC compatible. They sent me their address so I could PAY to ship back the coils that were useless to me. Keeping them is financially in my best interest as I’ve paid enough for dissatisfaction.
The exact description on Element’s website is “Eleaf iKonn 220 TC Starter Kit”. Do you see the TC in there??? That means Temperature Control, obviously but, you cannot use TC in this “kit”. THIS IS NOT A TC KIT if you need additional products to use TC! (now you know why I quote “kit”. It has not been described accurately)
If this was stated on Eleaf’s product or Element’s website, IN PLAIN ENGLISH, I would have gone with my 1st option of getting a separate mod and tank, since buying a TC mod is pointless if you’re stuck using it in wattage mode. Both companies, in my opinion, are FULLY aware of this. They got me to buy into a “kit” that isn’t a kit at all, just a scam to get me to pay for an insufficient, included tank, thinking I’d be back for more of their product to make the “kit” sufficient.
I also cannot seem to find replacement gaskets for any of the tanks I own. The tanks would be useful MUCH longer past the life of your included gaskets since only the threads would wear out.
I believe the companies realize this too so, they don’t sell replacement gaskets, knowing you’ll have to buy a whole new tank. $30 for a Smok TFV12, of which 1 of my 4 started leaking and 1 has leaked since day one. Look's and sound's like a money pit to me, and everyone says's vaping is cheaper than smoking?
I haven’t found anyone talking about this topic and am confused as to why this is..... Maybe,
-I’m the only vaper that isn’t rich. Everyone else is more than happy shelling out extra cash, as it grows on their trees.
-I’m the only one that sees’s this issue as a problem. Rich or naive people don’t care.
-There is something I’m seriously misunderstanding.
-I’ve gotten too used to “click to return” ease on Amazon.com and being able to return anything simply because I’m not happy with it, and my expectations of vape companies are unreasonably high.
- This topic is purposely ignored by Vaping Underground
These are the only reasons I could come up with. If anyone could shed some light on this for me that would be fantastic!
The last thread I had started, got bombed with VU staff and moderators swooping in to defend another company I had questioned. PLEASE, BRING IT HERE! I’ve got to hear what you have to say on this matter, as a whole. Especially since Element is one of your top donors this month.
I’m pretty good at distinguishing a valid point from propaganda so I’d suggest an honest response to anyone chiming in.
My next hope for her is the IQOS
