Scuba-Matt
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I hope Eleaf tunes these new devices in RMS and not MEAN like the Istick
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iStick 50w
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Here's the official Eleaf product page, looks good on paper.
http://www.eleafworld.com/product/detail.php/istick-50w.html
http://www.eleafworld.com/product/detail.php/istick-50w.html
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I would have liked to see more color options but that's just a very small personal preference. Everything else looks really good. Can't wait for the final product release and pricing. I'll order domestic from trusted vendors I do business with as soon as they arrive. Would have made nice Christmas gifts if I could have gotten my hands on them mid December but still not too late for a post holiday gift.
Damn good that is.
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Anyone interested in the new mini just 2 inches with 10 watts and smaller battery you can get it here for a low price http://www.vaporbeast.com/mini-istick.html
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With the exception of the Delta series atomizer heads by Joyetech, I've never been a fan of Joyetech coil heads, the eGrip included. The flavor tends to get muted on the replaceable heads Joyetech makes, including the eGrip. If they went the route like Kanger did and make organic cotton heads, the eGrip might take off even more than it has. 2015 is shaping up to be a year of innovative releases in both APV's and Atomizers. I look forward to the 50W iStick. I think its going to help drive cost down on higher power APV's.
50 Watts is more power than 95% of the vaper population would ever use. 4400Mah is Key here, that's a good 2-3 days of use for lower power vapers. I can crush a fully charged 2500Mah 35 Amp 18650 in a few hours when I use an RDA, but not many people run Quad coil drippers at .17 Ohms.
50 Watts is more power than 95% of the vaper population would ever use. 4400Mah is Key here, that's a good 2-3 days of use for lower power vapers. I can crush a fully charged 2500Mah 35 Amp 18650 in a few hours when I use an RDA, but not many people run Quad coil drippers at .17 Ohms.
I hope so too. RMS is the way to go. I just noticed, the finally put the charging port on the side this time!
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I think that organic cotton coils are going to be the industry standard soon, it's about time. The Subtank spearheaded the revolution and set a precedent for others to follow much like the i Stick with the small portable moderate power box mods. You're on point when you say the i Stick will drive costs down. I completely agree with that. When it was released a few months back I was shocked to see how low it was only $40 for the entire kit with impressive features.I think that's the reason why we see so many box mods coming out now like Cloupor, Kamry, IPV etc., pricing close to the i Stick marker, they know if they went to high people wouldn't have much reason to stray from the i Stick. When the 30 and 50 watt models are released at the end of the month it's going to grip the market unlike anything we have seen before. Stainless steel threading, temperature control, locking functionality, fit tanks up to 23mm, small and portable, option for 30 watts or 50 watts, boost in voltage and big batteries in both. I get 2 days now on my i Sticks at 2200 milliamp so I would expect the same on the 30w and double on the 50 watt at a monstrous 4400 milliamp.
"50 Watts is more power than 95% of the vaper population would ever use" EXACTLY.
"50 Watts is more power than 95% of the vaper population would ever use" EXACTLY.
I'm sure YiHi is ready or close to ready with this technology.
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Thanks for the info Woody. I'm going to wait until the final version is released and all revisions sorted out at the end of the month.
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Temperature protection as displayed on bright OLED screen
Temperature protection as displayed on bright OLED screen
Good feature, stops the user from frying the CPU....
This is going to be another crazy year. First week of 2015 and I already have 2 vw box mods on the way and now this one coming down the pike. As long as it isn't PWM I'm in.
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Absolutely, safety is important. I think regulated mods are a far better and safer alternative especially for newbies. Eleaf did an outstanding job with the i Sticks. The countdown to the end of the month release date begins. Will be another huge success for them.
They're taking pre-orders at Kingly Vapes now: http://www.cigbuyer.com/eleaf-istick-50w-mod-deal/
$49.98 + free shipping
$49.98 + free shipping
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Gonna be ordering the 30W version, no overhang with 22mm attys, spring loaded 510, and higher output are all welcome. Pulse-width modulation, who cares, the 20W works fine.
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I don't know either way... just wanted to mention...
That temp protection may be for the device itself not working over a certain temp... it doesn't have to mean they are controlling how hot the coil is able to get.
The temp protection is for the cpu chip on the board so the user doesn't fry it by over vaping at high wattage. I seriously doubt its an Evolv board.
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I agree it's not temperature control a la DNA 40, it's just an overheating circuit to hopefully prevent you from turning it to slag in your hand. Same as the DNA 30 and clones.
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Would I see a huge difference in flavor production between my current iStick 20W and this one? Right now I'm running at about 10W and don't really go over that because it makes the juice I have now taste burnt... It's probably just this particular juice though.
A guy I work with has a Sigelei 100W that he was running at about 45W when he let me hit it, and I was impressed with the potency of the flavor!
A guy I work with has a Sigelei 100W that he was running at about 45W when he let me hit it, and I was impressed with the potency of the flavor!
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The iStick 20W is fine on my Kayfun lite, but with a Billow tank I need more than 20 watts output to hit the sweet spot.
With the Sigelei 100W your always gonna hit your sweet spot on any tank or dripper. Downside to that is it's size and weight, be interesting to see how the iStick 50W performs because it's tiny by comparison.
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It's hard to say because it depends on many variables. The kind of juice you like to vape, the ratio, nicotine content, the coils you use etc., Some coils can take high wattage while others cannot and the wicks will burnout more rapidly. 50 watts is plenty of power for most people, in fact many never even go near that point. It's nice to have that flexibility if you're into sub ohm vaping and building your own. I get very good flavor between 9-13 watts. When I choose to sub ohm I boost up to 32 watts top (not i Stick as it doesn't sub ohm) If you want to sub ohm then it's worth getting into the 30-50 watt range but as mentioned earlier it's entirely subjective because you can get good flavor using low to moderate wattage settings. I would stick with 7-10 watts for the i Stick 20 watt. By the end of this month you'll have the option of choosing the 30 or 50 watt i Stick and both will sub ohm so you can experiment with new coils.
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Definitely not Evolv the price would be much higher.
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It's hard to believe that the 30 watt will only be around $40 and the 50 watt for $50. These are fantastic prices and they will likely sell out immediately if they stick with that but for now it's only pre-orders and a lot can change. Got to admire Eleaf for their hard work and innovation, only three months have passed and they have done very positive upgrades to their line up. I can see this company becoming the dominant player in the industry.
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4400 mah battery about 3-4 days on a single charge, 50 watts, 10 volts, temperature protection, tanks mount perfect up to 23 mm, fires down to .2 ohm (wow) stainless steel threading, spring connection, side fire button, same beautiful colors and small as expected. 30 watt offers pretty much the same just slight difference in specs and 2200 mah battery. I think the 20, 30, and 50 watt are going to be in very high demand and top sellers. At first, I was thinking maybe the 20 watt will somehow become obsolete but I don't think that will be the case, people will still buy them who don't want to go much higher in power. Surprisingly though, the 30 watt is going to be priced at $40 which is the same as the 20 watt so maybe people will shift to the 30 and take advantage of all the strong upgrades it offers. I noticed the Blue looks different then the one I have, this looks more teal colored on the 50 watt. I like it a lot. Very cool colors.
ive been saying for a few months now joyetech/eleaf are becoming one of my top 3 favorite companies and if they keep this up likely number 1. lemo killed the kayfun, many tanks tried and couldnt. istick 20w killed the mvp (hell even the new mvp 20). egrip is just an awesome all in one package with the rba heads. ego one coming out (missed it with no regulation though imo) and delta 2 with rba heads.
joyetech basically sat back for a while after the ego pen until recently and they are hitting it hard and doing it right for both rebuilders and non builders. the 50w is going to be competing with devices like rdna40 and the flask but at a fraction of the price
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I'm debating the purchase of the iStick 50W with an Aspire Atlantis tank.
I like my iStick 20W with Aspire Mini Nautilus, but for some reason have an urge to upgrade.
It's probably my co-worker getting into my head with his talk of how my setup sucks because it only does 20 watts.
I like my iStick 20W with Aspire Mini Nautilus, but for some reason have an urge to upgrade.
It's probably my co-worker getting into my head with his talk of how my setup sucks because it only does 20 watts.
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I wouldn't worry about your coworkers opinion what matters is whether you are happy with your set up or not. If the 20 watt meets your needs with the Nautilus then there's no need to upgrade. If not, you can easily do it at the end of this month to the 50 watt i Stick. 20 watts is plenty of power for the Nautilus.
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I like it, but I've heard that the Atlantis puts out a lot more flavor than the Nautilus does. Unfortunately since it's a sub-ohm tank, I'd need a different mod to power it.
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I can see your concern but it's important to note that a reviewer only makes for one opinion and they themselves may have vested interest not to knock a product. The other issue is that the reviewers themselves may get a defective unit. Everything is entirely subjective and there's certainly no guarantees in life. We all take a risk on our purchases and choices for that matter. I have never been disappointed with Eleaf products and most people have also been pleased with very good results. It's not like making a purchase from a complete unknown you're getting a proven industry leader that pioneered the i Stick and Lemo RTA and set a precedent for others to follow.
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It's entirely subjective. I vaped on both and did get better flavor but nothiing extravagant. You'll also have to decide whether it's worth it for you to invest in more expensive tanks, coils, mods etc., Sub ohm low resistance atomizers will drain you battery and juice supply very quickly. I would suggest you step back and think things through for yourself and not bother with what your coworkers think. They are not purchasing your gear and sharing in your experience which is a personal one. You can match the i Stick 50 or 30 watt with either the Kanger Subtank, Atlantis or Lemo etc., all will sub ohm. If you're happy with your present set up then I see no point in upgrading unless you just want to throw money to the wind. If I have extra cash and don't need to upgrade I try to help out friends who are down and out to help them quit smoking. I feel better in doing that to stave off feeding the addiction of greed for things I really don't need but simply want. Above all else it's good Karma.
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My intuition tells me that the next i Stick will offer a removable battery option and have a magnetic battery door. They already covered all bases with the 30 and 50 watt to easily meet most vapors needs so I'm guessing that once the removable battery mod is manufactured they will have done it all at that point. I don't care for the gravity sensors and Bluetooth that I see some companies coming out with. Keep it simple, small, light and portable for everyone. I'm not looking to stream Netflix on my mod
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Agreed... I might might never go above 25-30watts, but that 4400mah
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Temp control, he meant..
Temperature protection as displayed on bright OLED screen
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Temp control is Evolv.. this is merely protection from overheating the board.
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What has impressed me the most about Eleaf is that they didn't just sit back and do nothing like some other manufacturers have done and they didn't let their extraordinary success with the i Stick and Lemo get to their head. They listened to the public and worked very hard to develop the most innovative devices in the shortest time frame. Temperature protection for the chip, 4400 milliamp battery, wear resistant stainless steel threading 0.2 - 5 ohm resistance, spring connection and when the temperature exceeds 70c it automatically goes into protection mode. Something I didn't mention earlier that I just noticed is that the fire button is not flush, protruding nicely on the side for easy access especially at nighttime. The bright OLED display shift to the center running vertical was also a very smart choice. When you fire with your thumb holding the mod sideways you're no longer blocking the view of the screen like on the 20 watt, simply press the fire button to launch your vape and slightly turn your wrist and the full display is facing you. This makes for easy access to your ohm reading, battery meter, voltage and wattage adjustment. And even after all these substantial upgrades they didn't forget to incorporate a button lock for added safety to coincide with the temperature protection. Use the 1 amp wall adapter and charge overnight for about 5 hours and you're set for the next 3-4 days.
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Anyone place pre-order yet? I know my regular vendors will likely have them very soon, so I'm trying to exercise a little restraint. Very excited with the release at the end of the month.
But unlike the apple comparison these things aren't priced out the ass like iPhones /ipads. My wife loves her $100 kindle fire, and I'm sure people will love these, esp at that price. Unlike if apple did one it would cost around $250 for the same damn thing.
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You mean you don't want to dish out $300-500 for a phone? Both companies are pioneers and innovators in their respective industry but when it comes down to prices Eleaf has always kept their products affordable to a wide demographic while Apple had geared more towards the affluent. I'll close my eyes and try to imagine Apple designing the i Stick v4, it will have wireless capability and you can teleconference with your aunt in the Philippines while taking intermission pulls. Cost $700.
Both companies are pioneers and innovators in their respective industry but when it comes down to prices Eleaf has always kept their products affordable to a wide demographic while Apple had geared more towards the affluent. I'll close my eyes and try to imagine Apple designing the i Stick v4, it will have wireless capability and you can teleconference with your aunt in the Philippines while taking intermission pulls. Cost $700.
Dissonance, I'm taking your advice and holding off on the pre-ordering as well. I would like to know if anyone has pre-order and if so, from where and also if the place you are buying it from is selling the kit or standalone mod / battery.
I REALLY want to pre-order as well and want to pre-order the kit that includes the charger, etc., but am trying to hold off for now.