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I currently have a Kanger tech subbox mini and it has been great. However, I am a machinist and use it at work, so it's getting oil covered as well as pretty beaten up.

So I am looking for a mod that is 40 watt to 75watt that has sealed buttons and is at least aluminum. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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Whichever device you choose, might want to get a silicone sleeve or a wrap for it. The Cloupor Mini Plus comes with a clear sleeve, and it should cover the buttons.
 

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Great suggestion. Then after seeing it, I wondered if a sleeve might not serve the purpose, too.
 

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I like that mini. Especially at $26. Have to check it out.
 

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as much as it will offend some people...why not look at Provari's stuff they may not be the most cutting edge but their mods have a long reputation for durability and craftsmanship.
 

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as much as it will offend some people...why not look at Provari's stuff they may not be the most cutting edge but their mods have a long reputation for durability and craftsmanship.
Arnt they going outa business?
 

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I currently have a Kanger tech subbox mini and it has been great. However, I am a machinist and use it at work, so it's getting oil covered as well as pretty beaten up.

So I am looking for a mod that is 40 watt to 75watt that has sealed buttons and is at least aluminum. Any help is greatly appreciated.
You might like the compact 75w IPVD2 or the newer IPVD3 upgrade.. My D2 came with a silicon sleeve that seals the buttons from dirt and dust...
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checked out the provari and they are a bit expensive, and my only requirement is that it takes 18650's. they are the AA of lithium's.
 

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checked out the provari and they are a bit expensive, and my only requirement is that it takes 18650's. they are the AA of lithium's.
Yeah, they are expensive and rather low powered too..not a good choice if you're on a budget...many mods out there that cheaper and powerful enough to vape whatever buikd/tank/RTA you want..but yes, the Provari takes a single 18650 battery..

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checked out the provari and they are a bit expensive, and my only requirement is that it takes 18650's. they are the AA of lithium's.
Li-po are becoming more the trend as I see it .
 

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lipo's will likely never have a "standard" for sizing, so doing a quick change of a battery isnt going to happen so.Lli-ion cell batteries will stick around for some time.
 

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If you want durability and power-my goto is hexohm.
Dual 18650, the 2.1 is in a proprietary Hammond style box that is flat, it has a pin loaded 510, you use a potentiometer to adjust voltage from 3.0-6.0,and there is not a screen. The non screen is surprisingly nice, what you get is pure performance and ridiculous battery life. I get a full day and into the next at 4v with a 0.2 ohm build-(80w)
I dropped mine from a second story balcony onto a parking lot. After I picked it up and put the batteries in it, the thing fired right up!
It also has a LIFETIME guarantee.
https://cravingvapor.com/
 
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lipo's will likely never have a "standard" for sizing, so doing a quick change of a battery isnt going to happen so.Lli-ion cell batteries will stick around for some time.
There's a mod called awesome something or other that has a interchangable Lipo. It uses the same as most rc cars but it's got $150 price tag and is fugly. But they're on the way I think.
 

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That dna200 you're talking about?
Hotcig DNA, its kind of a innokin(esque) concept, pretty cool, I reckon. But unless lipos become relatively widely available and a standardized size for mods, I don't see them replacing 18650s completely.
 

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Oh, theres this too at gearbest

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neither would work for the OP though
 

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its seams that the only product that meets the requirements out of the box is the heatvape invader/dovpo mini. i am surprised there isn't any other products encased in silicone permanently the problem with the cases is that the cutting oil will simply get behind it due to it being slip fit.

and if i wasn't looking for a "workhorse" mod i would just buy the wismec "RX7" (kudos if you can figure out why i call it an rx7) just because i think it looks awesome and going up to 200w REQUIRES more voltage if you want it to work properly, and you can only do that by having more batteries or using a battery with a higher voltage.
 

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This is my Subox mini. if you cant tell the finish has turned shiny from all the oil and its getting pretty beat up after only 2 months. this is why i want a durable box mod that can take this kind of light, but long term abuse.

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They have subbox mods on sale for 21.50 at vapebeast with coupon code YEAHBABY (hopefully still) and could keep that one as your beater
 

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that could work, but i was thinking of just buying a beater approved heatvape invader and a goblin mini and just have a seperate setup for home and for work.
 

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its seams that the only product that meets the requirements out of the box is the heatvape invader/dovpo mini. i am surprised there isn't any other products encased in silicone permanently the problem with the cases is that the cutting oil will simply get behind it due to it being slip fit.

and if i wasn't looking for a "workhorse" mod i would just buy the wismec "RX7" (kudos if you can figure out why i call it an rx7) just because i think it looks awesome and going up to 200w REQUIRES more voltage if you want it to work properly, and you can only do that by having more batteries or using a battery with a higher voltage.

Can't say I got it right away, but googling reuleaux and seeing the reuleaux triangle made it all click. I've seen that triangle before!

Anyway, the dovpo and the invader are all that I know of, other than moving to a mechanical, which can get dirty and beat, and just be disassembled and cleaned/repaired.

That's what I've been considering for a workhorse or beater myself. Even if you don't want to get into building coils, it's surprising how often 3.6-4.2 volts ends up being just about right for a given atomizer. That's about where I vape my nautilus mini. And it translates to 25-35 watts on my Delta II with its .5 ohm coils, which is the range I tend to use it at.

Now, none of this is from experience, but just my thoughts as I've been thinking about and researching a more duraresistd for myself.
A mech might not resist grease, dirt, etc any better, but if they do get in and cause problems, you're looking at a bit of maintenance rather than replacing the whole unit.
Edit: 4.2v is 35w not 30w on a .5 coil
 
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Can't say I got it right away, but googling reuleaux and seeing the reuleaux triangle made it all click. I've seen that triangle before!

Anyway, the dovpo and the invader are all that I know of, other than moving to a mechanical, which can get dirty and beat, and just be disassembled and cleaned/repaired.

That's what I've been considering for a workhorse or beater myself. Even if you don't want to get into building coils, it's surprising how often 3.6-4.2 volts ends up being just about right for a given atomizer. That's about where I vape my nautilus mini. And it translates to 25-30 watts on my Delta II with its .5 ohm coils, which is the range I tend to use it at.

Now, none of this is from experience, but just my thoughts as I've been thinking about and researching a more duraresistd for myself.
A mech might not resist grease, dirt, etc any better, but if they do get in and cause problems, you're looking at a bit of maintenance rather than replacing the whole unit.
that makes way too much sense... I am currently running at 30w, which is 3.8v. you just made my search a bit bigger and now i have to dig through mech mods. i will not buy a generic box with a botton on it. to me thats boring and not form fitting to the hand. like a glock.
 

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as much as it will offend some people...why not look at Provari's stuff they may not be the most cutting edge but their mods have a long reputation for durability and craftsmanship.
The new one does just barely scratch at the bottom of the OP's 40-75 watt minimum...I haven't been following the reports post-release (just the pre-release chatter burned off enough brain cells that I'll never get back), but if it's as well-received as others in the line that might not be a bad choice.

How about a Heatvape Invader 50? Edit - never mind, I'm late to the punch on that one...
 

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You'd just want to make sure that the full 4.2v from a freshly charged battery wouldn't be too much.

And yeah. There are just so many damn mech mods out there. From tubes to the basic boxes that you don't want to pistol grips and ones that hide the tank inside the box. Have fun.
 

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You'd just want to make sure that the full 4.2v from a freshly charged battery wouldn't be too much.

And yeah. There are just so many damn mech mods out there. From tubes to the basic boxes that you don't want to pistol grips and ones that hide the tank inside the box. Have fun.

its unfortunate that most are very simple and not very creative in design. i like the shape of my Kbox mini, and i would want dual 18650's to maintain a more constant voltage, but most mech boxes are just that. a damn box. i would love something like the vaporesso target but in mech form and dual 18650s..
even something as simple as a rounded box mech mod (quad mod) is $200 in none clone form. then they wonder why people buy a $20 clone.
 

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Ooh, I like that.

While, from a functional standpoint, I would never buy a cloned regulated mod, (cloned circuitry, no thank you) I would a mechanical, because of the absurd prices of most authentics and the lack of complicated parts to be f'ed up in the cloning process.

If you won't buy a clone, period, then your options for mechs are limited if you don't want to spend more than you would on an awesome regulated mod. This shit is so backwards.
 

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Ooh, I like that.

While, from a functional standpoint, I would never buy a cloned regulated mod, (cloned circuitry, no thank you) I would a mechanical, because of the absurd prices of most authentics and the lack of complicated parts to be f'ed up in the cloning process.

If you won't buy a clone, period, then your options for mechs are limited if you don't want to spend more than you would on an awesome regulated mod. This shit is so backwards.
yeah. the main reason is that some asshole that "designs" a godamn rounded edge box wants a ton of money just because he came up with the idea. if the Chinese can clone a product, sell it for 1000% less than what your asking and MAKE MONEY than clearly your asking too much for just "innovating" by design. similar to apples philosophy, except the clones are now better built than the originals. and by clones i mean android.
 

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And I'll add that while I don't rule them out, I personally would prefer not to get a clone, and one of my top possibilities is the wismec noisy cricket, which is not a clone and has the form you're looking for, but puts the batteries in series, meaning twice the voltage. It won't play nicely with replaceable coils in tanks, for the most part.
Would work for me, as I've been using an RDA almost exclusively lately, and can build for the extra voltage, but not the same if you want something you can just deal your tank onto.
I wouldn't rule out single 18650 mod though, as you could keep a couple batteries handy to swap in as they get weak.
 

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yeah. the main reason is that some asshole that "designs" a godamn rounded edge box wants a ton of money just because he came up with the idea. if the Chinese can clone a product, sell it for 1000% less than what your asking and MAKE MONEY than clearly your asking too much for just "innovating" by design. similar to apples philosophy, except the clones are now better built than the originals. and by clones i mean android.
I think we're on the same page here. You posted while I was writing mine above this one. And that is exactly why I wouldn't feel bad about buying a clone.

Edit: rant ahead

I think that wismec has it right with their US designed, China manufactured items. Reminds me of Cleveland Cyclewerks, making American designed and engineered bikes with Chinese built motors for cheap prices. Use China's manufacturing capabilities rather than letting them undercut you.
 
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I think we're on the same page here. You posted while I was writing mine above this one. And that is exactly why I wouldn't feel bad about buying a clone.

Edit: rant ahead

I think that wismec has it right with their US designed, China manufactured items. Reminds me of Cleveland Cyclewerks, making American designed and engineered bikes with Chinese built motors for cheap prices. Use China's manufacturing capabilities rather than letting them undercut you.
yeah i wouldn't mind series, except i dont run at a high voltage with my RBA deck in the kanger. if i was running a velocity dual coil i might want it, but im not sure. the rotary is definitely a need mod, and I agree with CCW's philosophy, and they are slowly moving their manufacturing to the US as it becomes economical. i almost bought a misfit, but found my old RD 250 2 stroke and definitely dont regret it, but it is down right now due to ignition issues. $500 will fix it for good, but i need to wait til i get enough extra scratch to buy the new CDI.

i do like the crickets design, but the quad has a neat sliding top to change the battery's, so changing them on the fly is pretty straight forward and toolless. plus its parallel so ill be getting roughly the voltage im running at right now. just not sure if i want to just get the invader instead
 

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I currently have a Kanger tech subbox mini and it has been great. However, I am a machinist and use it at work, so it's getting oil covered as well as pretty beaten up.

So I am looking for a mod that is 40 watt to 75watt that has sealed buttons and is at least aluminum. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Just gonna throw this out there. They make a variety of skins for the Kanger Subohm Mini. Some of them are really cool for like $8. Even though the Kanger is only 50 watts, it is a solid device. Mines scuffed as hell, but going strong.
 

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Just gonna throw this out there. They make a variety of skins for the Kanger Subohm Mini. Some of them are really cool for like $8. Even though the Kanger is only 50 watts, it is a solid device. Mines scuffed as hell, but going strong.
its not just bumps and scrapes im worried about. i use it at work and my hands are always oily so the kanger gets covered in oil. im worried it will creep through the buttons and fry the board. plus the magnetic back is always getting sleep shavings stuck to it.
 

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