I don't do apples or cider. In a B&M I can smell through the unopened bottles and can tell right there even if the clerk says it has something I don't like in it. If it smells good with a muted tone of what I really don't care for, I'll give it a shot. BUT, considering my current quantity of premade juices, I don't order any more. Except for that Biscotti. Hope I get it by the weekend to use with a new tank. Or, even a RDA, which I really don't care for. Tanks/RTDAs is fine. I prefer to have it hold a decent amount of liquid than applying it all the time.