May 11, 2020

.




Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
started going downhill w Guliani



absolutely, but I really want to fight him with my fists :kickbutt: lmao
Definitely, Giuliani was the worst. And all these shmoes were voting for him since he was tough on crime or whatever happy horseshit he was selling.

If you use fisticuffs, you’ll end up in the hoosegow. (Or however you spell it.) Not worth jail for his dumb ass, imho.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

ajvapes

Silver Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Definitely, Giuliani was the worst. And all these shmoes were voting for him since he was tough on crime or whatever happy horseshit he was selling.

If you use fisticuffs, you’ll end up in the hoosegow. (Or however you spell it.) Not worth jail for his dumb ass, imho.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
If i remember correctly Rudy is the mayor to be tossed out of Gracie Mansion by his wife:devil:
 

obijuan77

Silver Contributor
Member For 2 Years
WOW! just fucking wow is all I can say right now.

What a fucking unintelligent moronic imbecile. here's the link:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/york-governor-cuomo-plans-ban-flavored-cigarettes/story?id=65492413

he says:

"there has been some evidence that vitamin e acetate which is used in many of these vaping products" wait what? what the fuck?!

then they're going to post signs in stores that sell vapes that say "VAPING CAN EXPOSE YOU TO TOXIC CHEMICALS AND KILL YOU!" wait what again? what the actual fuck??!!

and finally he's going to propose legislation for a total flavor ban.

just......ugh too much wrong with this to elaborate. I'm fuming right now!
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
If i remember correctly Rudy is the mayor to be tossed out of Gracie Mansion by his wife:devil:
Omg, when he was around we were goofing about him looking like a vampire! All he wanted to do was bust people and throw their asses in jail.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
WOW! just fucking wow is all I can say right now.

What a fucking unintelligent moronic imbecile. here's the link:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/york-governor-cuomo-plans-ban-flavored-cigarettes/story?id=65492413

he says:

"there has been some evidence that vitamin e acetate which is used in many of these vaping products" wait what? what the fuck?!

then they're going to post signs in stores that sell vapes that say "VAPING CAN EXPOSE YOU TO TOXIC CHEMICALS AND KILL YOU!" wait what again? what the actual fuck??!!

and finally he's going to propose legislation for a total flavor ban.

just......ugh too much wrong with this to elaborate. I'm fuming right now!

What’s not to know about the ingredients? There’s like four things in juice- VG, PG, flavoring, and nicotine!

That article really got me riled up, as well. So, all of this fear mongering about kids and lipoid pneumonia led to this. What surprises me is how quickly this went down. Grrr.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

WarpedFactor

Member For 2 Years
All "regulation" will do is exacerbate the problem. From everything I have heard, every one of these cases involve black market mixtures. What will regulation do? Everyone who vapes will be buying their vape products on the black market. A mod is not a complicated device. Anyone with a basic knowledge of electrical circuits and minimal shop skills could build one. Heck, box mods started out hand made. Not pretty, not fancy, but not a problem. What will go away is any semblence of safety and quality control. Back to the days of exploding mods. If you can buy ******, *******, methamphetimine, and fentanyl, do you really think nicotine is going to be a problem. The illegal drug market will explode. The downside is we will see even more cases like these 400 odd that we are seeing now... many more. You can't put the genie back in the bottle, unless he wants to go. Alcohol, drugs, pot, now vapes, society never learns its lessons. Also, many who gave up smoking for vaping, will just go back to smoking. Even though it would be slow suicide for me, I am pretty sure I am one of them.
 
Last edited:

obijuan77

Silver Contributor
Member For 2 Years
And the 10 ton shit hammer dropped REALLY fast. Too fast and too well timed to be anything but deliberate. All the TV talking heads are going along for the ride on this too.
Yea no shit. They're talking about having this "vote on an ordinance banning flavored products other than tobacco as soon as this Thursday"

so 2 days notice. wtf!
 

wildgypsy70

My son calls me "vape mom"
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 3 Years
VU Challenge Team
Yea no shit. They're talking about having this "vote on an ordinance banning flavored products other than tobacco as soon as this Thursday"

so 2 days notice. wtf!
Where? Wtf?! That suuuuuucks!!!
 

wildgypsy70

My son calls me "vape mom"
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 3 Years
VU Challenge Team
All "regulation" will do is exacerbate the problem. From everything I have heard, every one of these cases involve black market mixtures. What will regulation do? Everyone who vapes will be buying their vape products on the black market. A mod is not a complicated device. Anyone with a basic knowledge of electrical circuits and minimal shop skills could build one. Heck, box mods started out hand made. Not pretty, not fancy, but not a problem. What will go away is any semblence of safety and quality control. Back to the days of exploding mods. If you can buy ******, *******, methamphetimine, and fentanyl, do you really think nicotine is going to be a problem. The illegal drug market will explode. The downside is we will see even more cases like these 400 odd that we are seeing now... many more. You can't put the genie back in the bottle, unless he wants to go. Alcohol, drugs, pot, now vapes, society never learns its lessons. Also, many who gave up smoking for vaping, will just go back to smoking. Even though it would be slow suicide for me, I am pretty sure I am one of them.
All of this. 100% this. Instead of working with the industry to have safe products on the market, they ban them and send them underground. Stupid. F-ing stupid. You’re right.....there will be many more exploding mods and nic sick bulls**t. Or who knows what people will mix with “nicotine”. I’m sure there will be some good stuff out there that won’t explode or give you some sort of illness, but on the whole, a much less safe environment.
 

SteveS45

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
ECF Refugee
I am sure glad I have been Happy with Chinese Vaping Devices because they will always be available. May cost a little more but supply and demand affects cost.
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
And the 10 ton shit hammer dropped REALLY fast. Too fast and too well timed to be anything but deliberate. All the TV talking heads are going along for the ride on this too.
Yes, this mystery illness was very well timed with these bans. Or the other way round. I’m still shocked (don’t ask me why) that they’re still saying things like vapor is toxic to rationalize this bullshit.
And so heavy taxation on vaping here in NY, like the crazy cigarette tax, seems to be upon us. Thanks for looking out for our health like this, y’all.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
Yea no shit. They're talking about having this "vote on an ordinance banning flavored products other than tobacco as soon as this Thursday"

so 2 days notice. wtf!
Really wtf? I don’t mind tobacco flavors, but I’d like a choice as an adult. I don’t need a shmuck like Cuomo protecting us from the perils of vaping. While trotting out a teen vaping epidemic, to top it off. So apparently my ciggie guy who pushed me into vaping will not be allowed to sell vape gear, since it’s a convenience store??


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
Wait Cuomo wants to ban flavors so what will he tax? Ban what you want to collect taxes on? Fucking bunch of Fredo's.
Most likely the bans will be generously lifted so they can tax vaping like smoking. In a best case scenario, no less!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Rossum

Gold Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Also, many who gave up smoking for vaping, will just go back to smoking. Even though it would be slow suicide for me, I am pretty sure I am one of them.
I fear I would too, which is why I've taken steps necessary to ensure that I can vape in the style to which I have become accustomed for the rest of my life.
 

WarpedFactor

Member For 2 Years
Really wtf? I don’t mind tobacco flavors, but I’d like a choice as an adult. I don’t need a shmuck like Cuomo protecting us from the perils of vaping. While trotting out a teen vaping epidemic, to top it off. So apparently my ciggie guy who pushed me into vaping will not be allowed to sell vape gear, since it’s a convenience store??


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I actually hate tobacco flavors. When I smoked, you didn't see me w/o a cup of coffee in one hand and a cigarette in the other. When I finally quit cigarettes, I lost my taste for coffee. I am convinced now that I drank coffee to wash the tobacco taste out of my mouth. The loss of flavored juices would be a big blow. I really don't know how it would affect me, since I mix my own, and the flavors are available for candy makers, but I can certainly see how it would impact others like me.
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
I actually hate tobacco flavors. When I smoked, you didn't see me w/o a cup of coffee in one hand and a cigarette in the other. When I finally quit cigarettes, I lost my taste for coffee. I am convinced now that I drank coffee to wash the tobacco taste out of my mouth. The loss of flavored juices would be a big blow. I really don't know how it would affect me, since I mix my own, and the flavors are available for candy makers, but I can certainly see how it would impact others like me.

It’s really messed up for those vapers who aren’t aware of what’s going on. People who mix their own are the lucky ones. The point is for us to stock up on nic, and see what happens. It’s sad to think of those vapers who may wake up and find out everything has changed, but we’ve got to be prepared ourselves.

I still drink coffee, maybe that’s why I can vape NETs and stuff!! I like flavors though, and I would miss doing without them. It’s just that Deeming has been looming since I started vaping about six months ago, so it was always in the back of my mind about tobacco and mint flavored juice.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
Frankly, I quit cigs cold turkey for three years, took Adderall for ADD, and I can do it again if I have to. I can vape without Nic if I have to.

The thing I won't do is let them push me back into smoking. And I have no fucking intention of paying anybody's high-as-hell taxes to vape.

One thing I'll suggest to everyone right now - TURN YOUR WATTAGE DOWN. Learn how to vape at 30 watts or less. Make your supplies last.
 

Carambrda

Gold Contributor
Member For 3 Years
ECF Refugee
Learn how to vape at 30 watts or less.
Not going to happen. Because, to a lot of vapers, essentially this is the full-blown equivalent of telling them go back to smoking normal cigs, and, a lot of them will, as I have watched them do it where I live... with my own eyes.

That said, I am not in any way suprised about this tactic. After all, 70 percent of the whole vaping industry represents the kind of low wattage vaping that's owned by none other than the biggest of the Big Tobacco companies so it is only very logical the fact that high wattage vaping needs to really die faster, it matches their complete strategy they've been abusing ever since they managed to squeeze out the Master Settlement Agreement. Once bitten, twice shy. That's why.
 

Rhianne

Diamond Contributor
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
Tax the truth so only if you constantly lie about something you don't have to pay more tax.
In a perfect world, that would be the way to go! I really do try not to lie, so I want a tax rebate now.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
@wildgypsy70 just told us in the Daily Mixing Thread that Trump had a press conference today and said all non-tobacco-flavored e-liquid will be off the market within two months.
 

SteveS45

Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
ECF Refugee
"It will take several weeks to develop the proposed flavor restrictions, which will be subject to public input before taking effect."
 

Artemis

Gold Contributor
Member For 5 Years
Anyone know of some cheap rebuildables MTL tanks? I hope its okay to ask in this thread?
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
Anyone know of some cheap rebuildables MTL tanks? I hope its okay to ask in this thread?
vapenw.com has 4 units of the Fumytech Rose MTL RTA left in stock for $5.49 each.

I ordered one the other day but don't have it yet.
 

Artemis

Gold Contributor
Member For 5 Years
vapenw.com has 4 units of the Fumytech Rose MTL RTA left in stock for $5.49 each.

I ordered one the other day but don't have it yet.
I might just pick up a few. I just ordered from them recently and picked up 3 mods that were cheap. I tried out the smok 75. It's okay and I would only use it if it was the last mod I had. I bought two of them and a kanger.
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
I might just pick up a few. I just ordered from them recently and picked up 3 mods that were cheap. I tried out the smok 75. It's okay and I would only use it if it was the last mod I had. I bought two of them and a kanger.
Well, just be aware, the Rose is a 24mm RTA. I think both those mods you mention are only 22mm wide. Right now we might not be in a position to care about things like that.

If you're going to be building anyway, you might try an Ammit MTL RDA on a small regulated squonker, like the RSQ that's in the hardware thread right now. That Ammit MTL RDA is REALLY MTL.
 

Artemis

Gold Contributor
Member For 5 Years
Well, just be aware, the Rose is a 24mm RTA. I think both those mods you mention are only 22mm wide. Right now we might not be in a position to care about things like that.
The mods are for the vape apocalypse. I'm using some i stick rims right now. Can I use a single coil on the rose? Ya can tell I'm not too familiar with building coils and such. I could do it.
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
The mods are for the vape apocalypse. I'm using some i stick rims right now. Can I use a single coil on the rose? Ya can tell I'm not too familiar with building coils and such. I could do it.
I've never seen a rebuildable MTL device that wasn't single coil.
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
This is typical over-reaction of what was actually only just a proposal.
This is like a boulder rolling downhill. It would be nice to think that someone could push this big a rock back UP the hill, but somehow I don't think so.

Still, time will tell. Nothing wrong with being as prepared as we can be.
 

nadalama

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 2 Years
It looks good. Any other recommendations from the nw clearance area? I will pick up that one if they are available later tonight. I'm planting lillies right now. Its suppose to be therapeutic.
The only other RTA I see for MTL that looks like a decent possibility is the eLeaf Lemo. There are a couple of Kayfuns, but my experience with KFs has been terrible. I would hate to wish one on a beginning builder.

The Lemo is old-school; fills from the bottom, and airflow is an internal screw, but while that might be a little inconvenient to set the first time, once you get it where you want it, you don't have to fiddle around with it any more. Not much of a risk to try one for $3.49.

ETA: They also have Cotton Bacon V2 for $3.99 which I think is a pretty good price, if you need cotton.
 
Last edited:

Artemis

Gold Contributor
Member For 5 Years
The only other RTA I see for MTL that looks like a decent possibility is the eLeaf Lemo. There are a couple of Kayfuns, but my experience with KFs has been terrible. I would hate to wish one on a beginning builder.

The Lemo is old-school; fills from the bottom, and airflow is an internal screw, but while that might be a little inconvenient to set the first time, once you get it where you want it, you don't have to fiddle around with it any more. Not much of a risk to try one for $3.49.

ETA: They also have Cotton Bacon V2 for $3.99 which I think is a pretty good price, if you need cotton.
Thank you! I have tried Kafun 3.1 regular and minis and kayfun 5 and did not like. I think the rose mtl is decent. It looks big enough. I'll have a excuse to order something plus who knows maybe another mod might fall into the cart. I don't have a job right now but it's no excuse for me not to stock up. For 3.49 I won't be out too much either.
 

VU Sponsors

Top