How about Smokies goes to 'news' or 'general' and mine (this one' goes to 'Umad bro'?Tell me where the CLOSED thread should be moved to and i will move the fucking thing.
Or are we going to argue about that for 2 days too?
Can you all please, please give us a fucking break about this stupid petty shit?
Thank you for fucking up the day of 5 VERY active moderators.
I didn't have to make a single fucking pizza today!
And I have been vaping my fishee brains out.
First off Twisted called Rip out not Joe or me, and Joe makes it known to all (DISCLOSES) that he makes affiliate money on his pimps, and links. And second I am entitled to my opinion. You should direct your comments at Twisted,I'm really disappointed with Smokie's response... So in all fairness - that means Joe should also be in the Hall of Shame (and should be receiving a lot more hate than Rip has).. he's 'pimped' a TON of FastTech deals for mods (and other sites) that ended up being shit... WHY IS IT OKAY TO CALL OUT ONE SINGLE PERSON AND NOT OTHERS?!
This is NOT what I expected from VU's moderators.. real shame on how this whole situation was handled..
That was funny as hell,Who the fuck are you and why did you even bother to respond.
You weren't even the one(s) I was talking about.
You HAVE to listed to this one
Cry me a fucking river, Joe & Smokie are the reason this issue is so big on this forum. If 5 mods have had their day fucked up it's on them, not the forum users. Stop your fucking whining and sort your shit out, because the mods and the bosses are obviously on totally different pages.
That was funny as hell,
made me really laugh out loud several times!
Got that shit on download now, and will be bumpin that funny shit in my little funny car.
You've got to be kidding me.
This is your 1st post to this thread so I obviously wasn't taking about you.
If you have such a problem with @Vaperjoe or @SMOKIE then why don't you PM THEM about it.
Cry them a fucking river, not me.
You have a 28 posts so far 85% of them are in the Rip/Twisted drama thread.
I get it. You really like one of those 2 reviewers and dislike the other.
I could give a fuck less who you like or dislike and you need to take it up with them.
BTW there was ONLY 5 MODS active here today.
Why not PM the people you have a problem with?
Christ, I said PLEASE even
I don't have a problem with anyone. The reason you have problems is because of Vapor Joe and Smokie.
That Justin Bieber was funny as a motherfucker!Bizarre is funny as hell.
If you have a dropbox or something PM me a link and I will upload you a couple of his albums.
Try this one:
And this one
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WOW! That was very nice of you.. Take your frustrations about this place going downhill out on me. Like its my fault this Rip/420 thing was even brought up here on VU .
Not like that that is what I was going on about though..
Thats cool though.. I can take it.. I dont post if I dont wanna deal with the replies
I agree there are much bigger issues but ppl love a good train wreck and someone caught with their ass hanging out draws the views.So where would you suggest the thread go?
Remember the 300 posts in the thread as well and not just the OP.
In other words PLEASE give us a fucking chance to make a section for all of this petty bullshit!
People are losing their rights to vape in public, their own condos, etc
People around the US are bracing for the horrible deeming REGS that the FDA originally designed for cigarettes and other combustible tobacco.
People are around the US have asshole politicians trying to pass of lost cigarette tax revenue on to US vapers basically punishing us for QUITTING smoking.
And we are worried about a bearded cartoon character who is afraid to go out in public and shake a few hands and some other dude from Texas with "420" in his screen name bickering back and forth to each other!
The fucking thread you are all bitching about is CLOSED! This is the new one.
The whole time as we gain more and more members and trolls by the thousands and we have the same old ten moderators trying to handle quadruple the traffic.
We are actually losing moderators because they either just wanted a pretty light blue box under their name but not the responsibility that comes along with it or they cried about other members "mistreating" them after getting modded or they just weren't up for the job.
I have been here since the beginning, before the forum was even open I was adding content so the first hundred members didn't have an empty forum to log on to.
Can you all please, please give us a fucking break about this stupid petty shit?
Thank you for fucking up the day of 5 VERY active moderators.
Speaking of Green, I hope the roast of Grim Green at Slam gets uploaded.Actually is was a group effort of everyone working together to either hate on Rip, Twisted, or Both.
We have Phil, Todd, Grimm, etc... too Right?
How can you ccriticize smokie for his personal opinion not being based on facts and then give us this. It was "seen" as not true? Like the mod smokie bought that he saw as junk? Seriously. That's what you got?Sigh..
It is NOT that Smokie posted it in the first place, it was that he refused to move the thread out of the HoS after it was seen as not true,
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Go ahead.. You seem to have trouble actually reading anyways, 'cause I did say Smokie set the precedent for making threads here about people you do not like. So, go ahead and make one about me.. Prove my point, LOLHow can you ccriticize smokie for his personal opinion not being based on facts and then give us this. It was "seen" as not true? Like the mod smokie bought that he saw as junk? Seriously. That's what you got?
Hell, I'm a new guy here so I'll shut up after this, but if smokie deserves his own thread here you just warned yours imo. I won't be petty and make it, just saying.
I don't dislike you. I don't really know you. Assuming the hall of shame is for calling out bad vendors, and I have a complaint with a vendor and post it, how do you know I'm telling the truth? You don't. However, that vendor could easily come in and tell their side, and people could judge for themselves.Go ahead.. You seem to have trouble actually reading anyways, 'cause I did say Smokie set the precedent for making threads here about people you do not like. So, go ahead and make one about me.. Prove my point, LOL
I loves ya
How about Smokies goes to 'news' or 'general' and mine (this one' goes to 'Umad bro'?
Sounds simple enough
First off Twisted called Rip out not Joe or me, and Joe makes it known to all (DISCLOSES) that he makes affiliate money on his pimps, and links. And second I am entitled to my opinion. You should direct your comments at Twisted,
That was funny as hell,
made me really laugh out loud several times!
Got that shit on download now, and will be bumpin that funny shit in my little funny car.
I agree there are much bigger issues but ppl love a good train wreck and someone caught with their ass hanging out draws the views.
As to the Smokie thing yeah his post was a little off base and adding Rip to the hall of shame when the issue is all hearsay and unconfirmed rumors is a bit kooky in my humble opinion, but now there are a bunch of Rip & Twisted threads down here. I can't wait for the two weeks to be up and we can all move on.
As to the moderator thing fuck enlist some recruits then, but choose wisely as some of these pricks are nuts lol
Speaking of Green, I hope the roast of Grim Green at Slam gets uploaded.
It's all fun and games until someone gets the Ebola. Hey, I'm a 41 year old man. I want to avoid that awkward talk with my doc after informing him that I may have contracted the Ebola virus from mothers milk.Remember Smokie is the one who broke the "Ebola can get into your ejuice" story which obviously saved us all from catching Ebola lololol
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/ebola-virus-updates-and-can-it-make-its-way-into-e-juice.25488/
People aren't buying that. And frankly, they're right. That thread didn't belong here...if anything, it should've been moved to U MAD BRO or merged with another thread on this topic. There's about 6 to choose from.Unfortunately It was added here because it became a pissing match and too disruptive to the general forum and is continuing to be.
Do you honestly think this turd of a thread is anything but shameful? - http://vapingunderground.com/thread...led-out-live-on-mod-envy-by-twisted420.56860/
That isn't news (unless this was the national enquirer forum)
Remember Smokie is the one who broke the "Ebola can get into your ejuice" story which obviously saved us all from catching Ebola lololol
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/ebola-virus-updates-and-can-it-make-its-way-into-e-juice.25488/
No, you're missing mine. "The truth" as listed in the op wasn't the final version of the story. If figure as long as we are telling "the truth" we should tell the whole truth. And let's be honest, this is what this is all about. RT fans mad that someone had the audacity to report that there are vendors out there claiming to have been approached by RT asking for payments for positive reviews in advance of videos being posted.
If you read the screenshot you will see that you are wrong. Kurt from CCI said payment was requested for advertising and positive reviews. I'm not posting it again, as I'm on the phone and refuse to put forth the effort again and I've posted it multiple times. Plus, I've run into several of you guys pushing the app story and none of them, upon seeing the proof, have said "Based on this new info I have to reconsider my opinion" so if you want to see it (and you probably don't) it should be somewhere prior to the post you quoted.Nope. Rip didn't approach anyone. They approached him, asking for an ENDORSEMENT on an app. This had nothing to do with a product review. Equity and/or payments for endorsements are common business practice.
And we are worried about a bearded cartoon character who is afraid to go out in public and shake a few hands and some other dude from Texas with "420" in his screen name bickering back and forth to each other!
Can you all please, please give us a fucking break about this stupid petty shit?
Thank you for fucking up the day of 5 VERY active moderators.
there may be new info but there is no proof. if/when proof is presented then we will reconsider. i mean anything at all to actually implicate rip, like emails, texts, or anything direct from rip. if he really did this and kurt was dumb enough to delete the correspondence then he isnt much of a source and he should have further engaged rip to get new evidence (again if rip really was asking for payment for positive reviews). that is the bottom line and until that happens rip is innocentIf you read the screenshot you will see that you are wrong. Kurt from CCI said payment was requested for advertising and positive reviews. I'm not posting it again, as I'm on the phone and refuse to put forth the effort again and I've posted it multiple times. Plus, I've run into several of you guys pushing the app story and none of them, upon seeing the proof, have said "Based on this new info I have to reconsider my opinion" so if you want to see it (and you probably don't) it should be somewhere prior to the post you quoted.
If you read the screenshot you will see that you are wrong. Kurt from CCI said payment was requested for advertising and positive reviews. I'm not posting it again, as I'm on the phone and refuse to put forth the effort again and I've posted it multiple times. Plus, I've run into several of you guys pushing the app story and none of them, upon seeing the proof, have said "Based on this new info I have to reconsider my opinion" so if you want to see it (and you probably don't) it should be somewhere prior to the post you quoted.
No " fucking break " when you post shit like this. That whole paragraph is stupid petty shit. You make it sound like a private argument, which it is not. Twisted called Rip a pos and called for his banishment in a public post. Then several misleading and outright wrong accusations are made by Twisted, and btw he posted an email as proof that was anything but. For this you call him a dude. Rip, the innocent party in all this you call a bearded cartoon character.
I think I see where your coming from now.
Again, the screenshot posted mentions nothing of an app. You need to read before you speak. You quote me then say "What proof?" Read the post again and find where I said anything about "proof". I didn't. In fact, I've never said anything about him being guilty.What proof? Please point out to us any proof that Rip accepted money for a positive review. The email described a request for equity as compensation for an endorsement of an app. Just because the writer chose to describe it as taking money for a positive review doesn't make it so.
That is a fair opinion to which you are completely entitled. I'm not trying to change your mind. I haven't really formed an opinion on it yet. I don't watch many of his reviews anyhow, so I'm not in any hurry. Lol.that is the bottom line and until that happens rip is innocent
According to Kurt from Cloud Chasers Inc, as he posted on his facebook wall following the twisted video, this was about requesting to be paid for both advertising and positive reviews in advance prior to reviewing the product. Again, I can't say if it happened or not, but Kurt did say that there was talk of payment for positive reviews.Edit: as per RIp and the whole requesting to be paid for reviews thing we should all know by now that. the request was for advertising ie plugging a product which he does do frequently. Watch a rip video on one product vet he mentions another unrelated product ie advertising or plugging.
No " fucking break " when you post shit like this. That whole paragraph is stupid petty shit. You make it sound like a private argument, which it is not. Twisted called Rip a pos and called for his banishment in a public post. Then several misleading and outright wrong accusations are made by Twisted, and btw he posted an email as proof that was anything but. For this you call him a dude. Rip, the innocent party in all this you call a bearded cartoon character.
I think I see where your coming from now.
He clearly says Ray hit him up about Rip attempting to get paid for "advertising/positive reviews" and that Rip "had done the same thing to me" before he did any videos related to CCI. If you can't see that, than you're not looking.
@trlrtrash13 i think you are referring to this and from what i can see it only mentions payment for advertising as seen at http://www.v4p3r.com/twisted420-puts-rip-on-blast-ends-up-looking-like-a-schmuck/
Agreed, there is nothing wrong with what you have stated. I'm talking about Kurt's statement on the CCI page about product reviews.I have talked to Kurt, personally. At length.
The whole discussion about 2% equity in the company was compensation for Rip to endorse a product (not vape hardware) and was not payment for any kind of review. Basically, Rip would lend his name to it, kind of like a celebrity endorsement, which happens all the time outside of the vaping world. That deal never even happened. It was discussed, but never came to be. End of story. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with it being discussed, nothing wrong if it would have actually happened.
I see it. But again, it's hearsay. It's "I know a guy who posted that he got an email from another guy (who he doesn't even know)". It means nothing. Even saying that Rip did the same thing to him, it's just another allegation without proof.He clearly says Ray hit him up about Rip attempting to get paid for "advertising/positive reviews" and that Rip "had done the same thing to me" before he did any videos related to CCI. If you can't see that, than you're not looking.
I have talked to Kurt, personally. At length.
The whole discussion about 2% equity in the company was compensation for Rip to endorse a product (not vape hardware) and was not payment for any kind of review. Basically, Rip would lend his name to it, kind of like a celebrity endorsement, which happens all the time outside of the vaping world. That deal never even happened. It was discussed, but never came to be. End of story. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with it being discussed, nothing wrong if it would have actually happened.
He actually Clearly Says Ray lopez made a post about rip attempting to receive payment for advertisement/positive reviews.He clearly says Ray hit him up about Rip attempting to get paid for "advertising/positive reviews" and that Rip "had done the same thing to me" before he did any videos related to CCI. If you can't see that, than you're not looking.
Now I understand that he goes on to say that Rip never tried to get him to pay for the positive reviews that he gave him, but that doesn't cancel out the statement that positive reviews were offered in exchange for payment before any videos were done. If Kurt had faith in his product and sent it and took his chances on what kind of a review he would get, good for him.
I'm not claiming that payment was made for a positive review, let alone claiming to have proof of such. My only point is that what was claimed to have happened has been misrepresented. In your post, for example, you are conflating the issue. Kurt spoke to two separate occasions. He stated that payment for positive reviews was discussed before videos were made, but that there was never an attempt by Rip to collect any such payment after the reviews for CCI were posted. The implication being, as I read it, that the service was offered but never used and hence never paid for nor were attempts made to collect payment.Now if you can show prove that a payment was made for a positive review then that is a whole another ball of wax.